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Talk:Parma Eldalamberon

[edit] Separate issue listing?

Like Vinyar Tengwar, should we have a list of issues, or separate pages of issues? -- Ederchil 11:20, 13 February 2008 (EST)

I think it would definitely be worth having an article on each issue as each issue contains a lot of information. I personally don't have any issues yet, but I'll try and contact them to ask for permission to display at least their cover image and table of contents. --Hyarion 18:24, 13 February 2008 (EST)

[edit] Foster's Complete Guide to Middle-earth a spin-off of PE?

I think this is rather a non-sequitur, or at least very far-fetched, as the Complete Guide to Middle-earth was an expansion (prompted by the publication of The Silmarillion in 1977) of the earlier Guide to Middle-earth, that was first published in instalments in the journal Niekas, in the late '60s, so definitely before PE existed. -- Mithrennaith 15:32, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Although I lack the background information you have, I too reacted at that very sentence, which seemed to me to be more of an "interpretation", than "facts". Perhaps you could rephrase that sentence on the page? --Morgan 15:42, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
I will think about it, later. -- Mithrennaith 15:54, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
I have now revised the relevant passage, after having surveyed the contents of PE 1-5. From those contents it is clear that An Introduction to Elvish is the direct result of the discussion in PE: whole articles were expanded into it and its authors clearly came from the Linguistic Fellowship. Fosters Complete Guide is a totally different matter.
Foster was clearly a contributor to PE, but his contributions have no direct relationship with his Guide, rather, they seem to fall between the two periods he worked on it. His work in the middle and late sixties resulted in A Guide to Middle-earth, which, after serialisation in Niekas was published as a book in 1971. Only after The Silmarillion was published in 1977 did Foster use the information that had thus become available to expand the Guide into The Complete Guide to Middle-earth. Perhaps I should do some work on that article, where the whole history of the Guide prior to 1978 is now missing. The only direct link between PE and the Guide is a letter by a correspondent noting two errors in the Guide, which turn out instead to be errors in his noncanon source that has garbled some of Tolkien's information!
I have also clarified that, although Gilson revived PE outside the Linguistic Fellowship (which I think had collapsed), it was drawn into the Elvish Linguistic Fellowship when that had been founded. -- Mithrennaith 04:16, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
Hey Mithrennaith. Since you appear to know something about Foster, would you like to update the article Robert Foster about his contributions in the fandom? Sage 16:02, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
I'm afraid I know nothing more about Foster than his Guide and Complete Guide and his contributions to Parma. So I can't help out there. I will give a thought, however, to improving the history in the article The Complete Guide to Middle-earth (as I already said). -- Mithrennaith 17:14, 11 December 2009 (UTC)