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Talk:Two Trees of Valinor

These "super"-articles have a certain difficulty: what information is to be mentioned in only the sub-pages (in this case, Telperion and Laurelin), and what should be mentioned in all articles (super-page and sub-page)? For example, should we have the variant names for the trees in both this page and in the individual pages for the trees? --Morgan 00:14, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

I agree this is a problem and I am similarly conflicted about the division of information. Variant names for the trees should be in their respective articles, though. --Mith (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 11:20, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Kilby

I removed the following paragraph:

Clyde S. Kilby has suggested that the concept of the Two Trees shows an influence from the Biblical description of the creation of the world ("Let there be Light!").
Clyde S. Kilby, Tolkien and the Silmarillion, "Tolkien as Christian Writer", pp. 59-60

I find it too arbitrary and far-fetched, much more than Martinez's suggestion, or any other fan-made speculation. I don't know the original work and I don't know if more reasonable connections are made in the text, but as far as I know, the book was written before the publication of The Silmarillion, so it is possible that Kilby resolved to tentative interpretations and connections in the lack of more information. However the paragraph, as it was written, seems out-of-place, after given Martinez's far more plausible speculation. Sage 10:34, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

I read Kilby's book, and I remember it was better explained than as presented here. I find Martinez's note quite self-debunking. Anyway there are more scholars that explain Tolkien's inspiration on this topic and I had in mind to improve this section at some point. --LorenzoCB 10:53, 28 January 2021 (UTC)