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[edit] Welcome!

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[edit] Moving page

If you fail to convince other editors about changing the name of a page, you cannot go ahead and change it anyway. Tolkien Gateway is a collaborative project — not a private one.--Morgan 07:52, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

Why are you so protective of that other name anyway? It's conjectural. EldritchNexus 16:11, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
I'm not interested in discussing the name of the article here - it's a discussion for the talk page of the article.--Morgan 18:36, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
You're the one that brought it here from the start. I already changed it for you until you decided to change it back. Why not tell me why you don't think "Scourge of the Dragons" counts as an eligible name for the article, but "War of the Dwarves and Dragons" does? "Scourge of the Dragons" may not have been used in the books, but at least it's used in an adaptation: Lord of the Rings: War in the North. That's a luxury that "War of the Dwarves and Dragons" doesn't have.EldritchNexus 20:00, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
No. You made changes that other editors disapproved of. That's what I'm discussing here. This would normally result in a block, but since you've been a member for a while and have made many valuable edits, I preferred to state the reason for reverting your edits and hope for your understanding.--Morgan 21:13, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
I still don't know why they would object to "Scourge of the Dragon", given the reasons I listed. They only talked with me about the other suggestions before I discovered the one that was actually used in a licensed product. And when I did bring it up on that page, they said "Oh no, this is already discussed" without acknowledging the evidence. EldritchNexus 22:24, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
Discussions can often go heated on wikis, and many times here at TG I've felt just as you (probably) did: can't just everyone see why I'm right? :-) And when one's opinion isn't acknowledged or if you don't manage to convince others, it's easy to get irritated. But -- while you may display your disappointment and anger at talk pages (within the bounds of respectfulness, of course -- which you've done), it's something different to change the actual contents being disputed. My pieces of advice would be:
  • clearly state your arguments on the talk page
  • be patient (even though you fail to reach consensus at this moment, a wiki is constanly evolving and one day other editors may be attracted to your ideas, and the consensus could change)
  • be ready to sometimes kill your darlings (i.e., sometimes you have to let go of things you feel strongly about).
I hope I don't come across as too paternalistic; I'm just trying to explain my reasoning and experience here at TG.--Morgan 22:54, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
"Be ready to sometimes kill your darlings". Yet you people seem obsessed with keeping the name "War of the Dwarves and Dragons" where it is. Really. It's just a conjectural title one of you made up because of a lack of an official name. "Scourge of the Dragons" is the closest thing we have to an official name. Why are you denying it? Because you think your name sounds better? It's literally just "War of the Dwarves and Orcs" with "Orcs" replaced with "Dragons". EldritchNexus 03:42, 2 September 2016 (UTC)