Talk:Aros

2022-07-30T12:49:59Z

172.70.210.214: /* page numbers in references */

==Etymology==
This article had: <nowiki>"Aros ([[Doriathrin]] *"redness"; root YAR "blood")"</nowiki> . There doesn't seem to be enough info in the Etymologies for this claim - have I missed some other reference to the name ''Aros''? --[[User:Morgan|Morgan]] 20:57, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

:"Redness" is never given as a direct translation. Under the root YAR, the connection to blood and the red colour of the river are mentioned. I think the removal of "redness" is legitimate. -- {{User:Ederchil/sig}} 22:41, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

== page numbers in references ==

Are there two different editions of the Lost Tales with different page numbers?
In my paperback edition the page numbers are 236 and 244 note 15.--[[Special:Contributions/172.70.214.166|172.70.214.166]] 12:30, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

:Mine too, both in my Unwin paperback edition and the hardback. That's why I changed Akhorahil's edition. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 12:34, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

::I thought it was my mistake. Maybe Akhorahil was using his German translations. Is there a convention to write in past tense?--[[Special:Contributions/172.70.210.214|172.70.210.214]] 12:49, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

Talk:Durin's Bane

2022-07-26T01:28:50Z

172.70.210.214: /* When came the Balrog to Moria? */

==Main image==
The main image was changed months ago without discussion, but I propose to change it with [[:File:Ted Nasmith - Gandalf and the Balrog Upon Celebdil.jpg|this]] of the same artist, which is more detailed and is not already used. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 11:55, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

:I've just taken a look through the gallery and have to admit I prefer the [[:File:Ted Nasmith - At the Bridge.jpg|previous image]]. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 12:27, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

:Agreed with your choice, both are nice pictures and I don't mind which one is picked. [[User:Gaetano|Gaetano]] 22:06, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

==Gender?==
In this article, Durin's Bane is referred to as both "it" and "he". Which is more correct? -- [[User:Ancalagon the Black|Ancalagon the Black]] 17:27, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
:I'd say "he," since Durin's Bane is specifically referred to as a male by Gandalf in ''[[The Two Towers]]'' (Chapter 5 to be specific). --{{User:Holdwine Meriadoc/sig}} 20:28, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

::In ''[[The Fellowship of the Ring]]'', [[The Bridge of Khazad-dûm]], the Balrog is always referred to as "it". Some of that might come from its originally unknown nature, but even after Gimli identifies it as Durin's Bane, "it" is still used. But Holdwine Meriadoc is definitely right in that in Chapter 5 of ''[[The Two Towers]]'' ([[The White Rider]]), Gandalf always uses "he" when he gives his account of the encounter. I would go ahead and go with "he" here, which would make it consistent with the articles for [[Gothmog (balrog)]] and [[Lungorthin]]. --[[User:Grace18|Grace18]] 02:58, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

:::Makes sense. Thank you both! -- [[User:Ancalagon the Black|Ancalagon the Black]] 03:24, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

== When came the Balrog to Moria? ==

In the article it is suggested, that this balrog escaped the battle at the end of the First Age and went to Moria. No references are given, and it doesn't make sense. Durin had discovered Moria during the First Age and there was no disturbance until Sauron came in the Second Age. So I don't see any possibility for this balrog to sneak in. I would rather suggest, that Melkor put him there himself, when he raised the [[Misty Mountains]] in the Days of the Trees, before the Elves came. Durin was laid under Mount Gundabad by Aule even before. --[[Special:Contributions/172.69.22.226|172.69.22.226]] 01:18, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

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