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<p>172.71.154.29: /* Mary */</p> <hr /> <div>==Queen Elizabeth==<br /> Something hit me when I just quickly read the etymology section - I happened to read ''Elizabeth'' instead of ''Elbereth''! Elbereth, having the element bereth (queen), and ''Queen'' Elizabeth (I) - the similarity of the two names cannot be a mere coincidence! This must have been noted before? Surely Tolkien must have thought of this? --[[User:Morgan|Morgan]] 14:40, 9 December 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Mary ==<br /> <br /> I think the bit about the Valar being like the Catholic saints and Varda in particular being Mary should be removed. I checked Google and didn’t see anything along those lines. Folks can speculate all they want, but it appears to be pure speculation.--[[Special:Contributions/172.71.158.189|172.71.158.189]] 21:12, 6 November 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :The similarities of Varda with the Virgin Mary can be found in Tolkien's letters and in so many scholarly studies. But I agree the section is poor in information and references. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] ([[User talk:LorenzoCB|talk]]) 21:16, 6 November 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::If there are legitimate sources, they should be added. Otherwise it just looks like the site allows fanon.--[[Special:Contributions/172.71.154.29|172.71.154.29]] 22:43, 10 November 2022 (UTC)</div>

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