The Lord of the Rings (film series)

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'''''The Lord of the Rings''''' film trilogy consists of three live action films, directed by [[Peter Jackson]]. Principal photography for all three films took place in [[New Zealand]] over a continuous eighteen-month period

Inklings

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The '''Inklings''' was a literary discussion group associated with the [[University of Oxford]], England. Its members, mostly academics at the university, included [[J.R.R. Tolkien]], [[C.S. Lewis]], [[Owen Barfield]], [[Charles Williams]], [[Adam Fox]], [[Hugo Dyson]], [[Robert Havard]], [[Nevill Coghill]], [[Charles Leslie Wrenn]], [[Roger Lancelyn Green]], [[James Dundas-Grant]], [[John Wain]], [[R. B. McCallum]], [[Gervase Mathew]], [[C. E. Stevens]], [[J. A. W. Bennett]], [[Lord David Cecil]], [[Christopher Tolkien]] (J.R.R. Tolkien's son), and [[Warren Lewis|Warren "Warnie" Lewis]] (C.S. Lewis's elder brother). It met between the 1930s and the 1950s.

The Inklings were literary enthusiasts who praised the value of narrative in fiction, and encouraged the writing of fantasy. Christian values are also notably reflected in their work, though there were atheists and Anthroposophists among the members of the discussion group. Contrary to what has been said about the Inklings, it was not an exclusively Christian club.

As was typical for university literary groups in their time and place, the Inklings were all male. ([[Dorothy L. Sayers]], sometimes claimed as an Inkling, was a friend of Lewis and Williams, but never attended Inklings meetings.)

Readings and discussions of the members' unfinished works were the principal purposes of meetings. Tolkien's ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]'', Lewis's ''Out of the Silent Planet'', and Williams's ''All Hallows Eve'' were among the novels first read to the Inklings.

Inklings readings and discussions were usually held on Thursday evenings in C. S. Lewis's college rooms at Magdalen College. The Inklings were also known to gather at a local pub, [[Eagle and Child|The Eagle and Child]], known to them as '''The Bird and Baby''', or simply '''The Bird'''. But, contrary to common belief, they did not read their manuscripts in the pub. Later pub meetings were held at [[Lamp and Flag|The Lamb and Flag]] across the street, and in earlier years the Inklings also met irregularly in yet other pubs, but The Eagle and Child has kept the cachet.

The name was originally associated with a club at [[University College, Oxford|University College]], founded by the then undergraduate Edward Tangye Lean in ca. 1931, for the purpose of reading aloud unfinished compositions. The club consisted of students and dons, among them Tolkien and Lewis. When Lean left Oxford in 1933, the club died, and its name was transferred by Tolkien and Lewis to their group at Magdalen. On the connection between the two 'Inklings' societies, Tolkien later said "although our habit was to read aloud compositions of various kinds (and lengths!), this association and its habit would in fact have come into being at that time, whether the original short-lived club had ever existed or not."

Named after the Inklings is the Inklings society based in Aachen, and their yearbook, ''Inklings Jahrbuch f

Talk:Tolkien Google logo petition

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==Beren's The One Ring Logo==
So far I really like Beren's design. It's simple, to the point, and well implemented. I can easily see something like it on Google's homepage. I was looking forever trying to find an image of [[the One Ring]] but in my head I kept looking for the exact circular shape which makes it impossible to see the inscription , the tilted idea is brilliant. --[[User:Hyarion|Hyarion]] 18:05, 4 May 2006 (EDT)

== Question… ==

Before I sign up, I'd like to know if anyone has consulted with the Dark Tower (TE). Can Google ever act on this if it's considered copyright infringement? Don't get me wrong - I think it's a great idea - if it's possible.

:I understand your concerns. TE is pretty picky but I believe it constitutes fair use as there is no money involved at all and its not hurting their image. Worst case scenario is Google asks us to take down the images, but in that case they have already seen the petition and a chance of their logo designer hearing about it is pretty good. --[[User:Hyarion|Hyarion]] 00:03, 5 May 2006 (EDT)

== Is this really a suitable place for a petition? ==

The petition is hard to get to and signing it could be confusing for users inexperienced with wikis. Wouldn't it be better if you set up a petition on one of those free petition-specialised sites? I think that would get it better coverage. Also, using fake names won't do any good for the petition, I'm afraid.

P.S. I apologise for not being registered yet, I'm posting this in a hurry. - Denis Kasak

:'''Denis''', the petition is already for some weeks the Featured Article on the [[Main Page]], so it's not really hard to find, IMHO. And adding a name to the petition isn't that hard, either, if you'd ask me.
:The 'fake names' you object to are socalled screen names, which are widely used (as you might know) on on-line discussion/message boards. --[[User:Earendilyon|Earendilyon]] 05:05, 16 May 2006 (EDT)

::I know what screen names are, which is precisely why I mentioned it :) Maybe I've given off a wrong impression in my first post. What I meant to say was that using real first and last names could probably add quite a bit more credibility and weight to each of the signatures, not to mention the seriousness of the petition as a whole. -- Denis Kasak

:Hello Denis. As Earendilyon mentioned the petition has been on the main page for weeks, and is present on numerous news sites. If one still cannot find it you can simply search for "Google" at the left search box and click the first link. I do agree with you that signing may be difficult for people not familiar with wikis. I've added a bit of text which informs the visitor to click Edit on the right, as well as to not worry about the alphabetical part. I hope this helps and thanks for your input. --[[User:Hyarion|Hyarion]] 09:09, 16 May 2006 (EDT)

::It was probably a bit of an overstatement to say that the petition is hard to find. Concerning my other point, I was merely expressing worry that some people may find the complications of a wiki (with which they may not be familiar) to outweigh the benefit this petition may bring. I would not want to lose such people due to the system because I'd like this petition to be heard just as much as you :) I hope I am wrong and this won't stop people from signing. Still, kudos to you Hyaron; the text you added is a great improvement. Well, I'm off to registering and signing. -- Denis Kasak

:::'''Denis''', concerning your point on screen names: that's how the Internet (often) works; people are more known by their screen names than by their RL names. Google is part of the 'net, so they should know that and accept that (IMHO). If not: boo to Google! --[[User:Earendilyon|Earendilyon]] 15:34, 16 May 2006 (EDT)

::::Agreed, screen names are indeed what most people use when online. They are, however, not used exclusively as a method of personal identification on the 'net. My stance on this matter is probably biased since I'm an old Usenet git who prefers using real names instead of screen names :-) On a more objective note, what concerned me is that Google might decide that screen names, as there are many duplicates and it is more difficult to decide whether it is a genuine name, are an invalid method of proving the number of people that actually signed the petition. Still, I am probably delving into the matter much more than necessary. After all, it is not too much of a problem on Google's side to make something like this come true. I must say I'm looking forward to 3rd of January! Oh, one more thing. How will the logo be chosen? [[User:Denis Kasak|Denis Kasak]] 16:17, 16 May 2006 (EDT)

:::::Hello Denis, I definitely agree, for a formal petition real names possibly with a unique IP would definitely be more sufficient. To be honest however, when I came up with the idea it was more for just a bit of fun in seeing a Tolkien-Google logo, not that we as the Tolkien community were outraged by the fact that there had not yet been a Tolkien logo and that we should force Google to do so, it is all just for fun. That being said the petition has certainly generated more interest than expected and I definitely think we should give Google an email in a couple months just as a friendly reminder that a Tolkien logo would be cool. I doubt they would "choose" a logo or even respond to the email as they probably get this sort of thing a lot. But there's always the small chance they would take notice and follow through, and the more signatures, however unformal they may be, the higher possibility. Thanks for your input! --[[User:Hyarion|Hyarion]] 17:51, 16 May 2006 (EDT)

:It may help to put a link up or an announcement at other Tolkien sites, the lotr website in particular. I will leave this to more experienced contributors, not wanting to make a mess of anything--[[User:Quidon88|Quidon88]] 21:01, 18 July 2006 (EDT)

::Hello Quidon88, which LotR website did you have in mind? We tried all the news websites but unfortunately they all refused as they didn't like the thought of linking to a competing website :( We still have plenty of time before the big day however and maybe with such a large amount of signatures they will begin to change their mind. Don't worry you could never make a mess of anything, wikis are amazing as anything can be undone quite easily :) --[[User:Hyarion|Hyarion]] 21:39, 18 July 2006 (EDT)

== Did it Work? ==

I looked at the Google homepage last night, shortly after toasting the Professor, and I did not see anything. Did I perhaps miss it, or were our efforts for naught? In case you are wondering, I drank the last of the chocolate milk (that was all I had left in the refrigerator) in my high school graduation mug. To the Professor!!!!--[[User:Quidon88|Quidon88]] 12:36, 4 January 2007 (EST)

:I don't think so. If it did, I didn't notice. And it's not on the [http://www.google.com/intl/en/holidaylogos.html logos page].

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