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== General disclaimer ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hiya. I was working on uploading the FotR-pics when I suddenly thought, don&#039;t we need a general disclaimer to put underneath images? &amp;quot;The name(s) &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;{{1}}, {{2}} and {{3}}&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; and the description of their appearance are based on the works of J.R.R. Tolkien, and the copyright to these names and descriptions is owned by [[Tolkien Enterprises]]. TG does neither have nor claim ownership blah blah blah...&amp;quot;, you know the works. Since our current fair-use policy could use some work (display on userpages, for example, is not fair use). -- {{User:Ederchil/sig}} 17:31, 16 December 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Agreed, although I think underneath the images should state fair use, while our Disclaimer link at the bottom of all pages should mention the general copyright message. --[[User:Hyarion|Hyarion]] 04:57, 21 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::That link in the bottom leads to a page that does not exist yet, [[Tolkien Gateway:General disclaimer]]. -- {{User:Ederchil/sig}} 08:31, 21 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Me again - image galleries ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Don&#039;t know when the next meeting will be, so I thought I&#039;d post it here before I forget it. In the case of some categories - [[:Category:Images of Gothmog]] most notoriously - there&#039;s still some problem over disambiguation. Maybe all image categories should be renamed with the full pagename of the subject? Thus, [[:Category:Images of Boromir (Son of Denethor II)]] and such, rather than &amp;quot;Images of Boromir&amp;quot; - it is also handy when we would have a special box pointing to images - such as Wikipedia&#039;s interlinking with Wiktionary and Wikiquote, or Wookieepedia with quotes and images. I already did on of those for artist&#039;s galleries, [[:Template:Viewgal]]. -- {{User:Ederchil/sig}} 14:55, 31 December 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Sorry for the late response, I&#039;ve been meaning to reply for some time; school/work has gotten the best of me lately, but not for long! I fully agree regarding the full page name for Image categories. The Images box is a great idea, I don&#039;t know why I hadn&#039;t done that already, it&#039;ll help the articles look a little nicer as well. --[[User:Hyarion|Hyarion]] 04:57, 21 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== UsercrEation ==&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;m looking at the User Creation log at the moment. Do we have some sort of bot operating? All those twelve lettered users are just too many to be a coincidence. -- {{User:Ederchil/sig}} 09:18, 8 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yup. Gonna block them all infinitely. -- {{User:Ederchil/sig}} 15:45, 8 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Ithilien + search==&lt;br /&gt;
Now that I&#039;m on your talk anyway, any chance of the glitch in the search system of Ithilien (top links don&#039;t work) being fixed soon? I very much feel like switching back to cavendish. -- {{User:Ederchil/sig}} 08:31, 21 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Too late for soon; but I did manage to fix it. The search box has also moved temporarily to the top right. --[[User:Hyarion|Hyarion]] 23:52, 22 February 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Hobbit ==&lt;br /&gt;
I really hope to see this on the big screen i have waited now for so many years. Your fathers works are beyond compare and and everyone should be able to enjoy his works through reading and through Television and films ... i`d like my children to grow up reading his works as i have . Thanks {{unsigned|Tom}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:Uhm... Hyar, I didn&#039;t know you looked like CT? -- {{User:Ederchil/sig}} 22:20, 1 February 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Arda.jpg ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Arda.jpg|200px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Could you please tell me where (in which book) can I find the original map?&lt;br /&gt;
--[[Special:Contributions/201.253.244.46|201.253.244.46]] 19:37, 23 February 2009 (UTC) Buenos Aires, Argentina.&lt;br /&gt;
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:It&#039;s a fanon map. Not correct legendarium-wise. I favour deletion, even. But where did it come from? It&#039;s been circling the net for some time, I don&#039;t think it came from a book. -- {{User:Ederchil/sig}} 19:40, 23 February 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Ohh ok, thanks very much&lt;br /&gt;
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:::To me, it looks like it has been created by a fan, based on the maps by Karen Wynn Fonstad&#039;s [[The Atlas of Middle-earth]].--{{User:KingAragorn/sig}} 17:20, 24 February 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Meetings==&lt;br /&gt;
Dear, Hyarion,&lt;br /&gt;
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i was looking at the website and i noticed that there are meedings held on this sight. the last meeding was novemember 26th of 2008 and it was cancled and on that page it did not come up and say when the next meeding is going to happen. also i have another question when you want to enter another articail in the forums how do you do that? and is the chat area down is it being worked on. best of luck in life.{{unsigned|Elfhorse}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Backups==&lt;br /&gt;
This one comes partly from last night&#039;s outage, and partly from what happened to the [http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Main_Page TFWiki] recently (a crash and a major - one year - loss of work): If TG would crash, what&#039;s the situation on the backups? Would we have to search for Google caches, or is there some backup system? -- {{User:Ederchil/sig}} 08:22, 18 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Right now the database is backed up weekly and we save a couple months worth of backups but I&#039;m planning on doing nightly remote dumps, as even a week is a lot of lost work. The server hasn&#039;t been as reliable as it used to, I think we&#039;ll be migrating to a new host within the next year or two so we can improve uptime. --[[User:Hyarion|Hyarion]] 00:38, 20 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Next Meeting ==&lt;br /&gt;
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It is planned that we hold our next meeting on the [[Tolkien Gateway:Meetings/5 April 2009|5&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;th&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; of April 2009]], please inform us if you can attend [[Tolkien Gateway talk:Meetings/5 April 2009|here]].--{{User:KingAragorn/sig}} 18:42, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==&amp;quot;Retrieved From&amp;quot;==&lt;br /&gt;
Anyway we can get rid of that line that suddenly appeared everywhere? -- {{User:Ederchil/sig}} 08:34, 8 April 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Never mind, it&#039;s gone. -- {{User:Ederchil/sig}} 10:28, 8 April 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Next Meeting==&lt;br /&gt;
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Sorry to clutter up your talk page, but just informing you about the next meeting. It is planned that we hold our next meeting on &#039;&#039;&#039;Monday&#039;&#039;&#039; the [[Tolkien Gateway:Meetings/13 April 2009|13&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;th&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; of April 2009]], please inform us if you can attend [[Tolkien Gateway talk:Meetings/13 April 2009|here]]. Remember that it&#039;s on Easter Monday, not Easter Sunday. Thanks!--{{User:KingAragorn/sig}} 13:21, 9 April 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Unfortunately I&#039;ll be at work but I&#039;ll try my best to check in. Keep up the great work! --[[User:Hyarion|Hyarion]] 00:16, 10 April 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== RE:Welcome ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks you, Hyarion. I want to make a question before returning to editing: How can I get rollback rights (if there are any)? I am already a rollbacker in another wiki, Halopedia (www.halo.wikia.com), and I would like to know how can I obtain these rights here. Thanks for your time,&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;tt&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#7BA05B&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Odysseas-spartan-53|Odysseas]]-[[User talk:Odysseas-spartan-53|Spartan]]&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;[[Special:Contributions/Odysseas-spartan-53|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#4B5320&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font size=&amp;quot;5&amp;quot;&amp;gt;53&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/tt&amp;gt; 11:13, 23 May 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hi Odysseas, sorry for the delay; right now we aren&#039;t distibuting roll back rights, but keep up the great work and we&#039;ll get them to you eventually. --[[User:Hyarion|Hyarion]] 03:07, 2 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== FA ==&lt;br /&gt;
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See [[Forum:Featured article icon]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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Can we get [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ImageMap Extension: ImageMap] or something like it? -- {{User:Ederchil/sig}} 16:37, 10 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yea, looks easy enough to install. I should have it done this weekend. --[[User:Hyarion|Hyarion]] 01:57, 11 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Merge ==&lt;br /&gt;
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So what happened with the disscussions about the merging of the One Wiki to Rule Them All and Tolkien Gateway? Did it not work, or was there some issue? Was it forgotton? ~[http://lotr.wikia.com/User:Arvan_Swordwielder Arvan Swordwielder]&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi Arvan, most of the editors migrated here but Wikia wished to keep their version online. If I can help with anything else just let me know. --[[User:Hyarion|Hyarion]] 04:34, 1 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Thumbnails ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi. Can you please check out [[Historical Atlas]] and tell me what is wrong with thumbnail generation? It could evolve into a great article. Thanks [[User:Sage|Sage]] 11:23, 22 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:As far as I can tell, it&#039;s images in general that&#039;s to blame here. There&#039;s something wrong with uploading since the last update. -- {{User:Ederchil/sig}} 12:28, 22 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Sitenotice===&lt;br /&gt;
Related to the above, I&#039;ve tried to put up [[:MediaWiki:Sitenotice|sitenotice]] to tell editors not to upload for the time being, but apparently you haven&#039;t activated it yet. Can you, please? also for future use it could be handy. -- {{User:Ederchil/sig}} 18:14, 22 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Saruman&#039;s ring ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi, I was reading Saruman&#039;s article and it&#039;s good but there is something I would like to ask. In the &amp;quot;Chief of the White Council&amp;quot; you have stated that Saruman HAD MADE a ring of power by using the knowledge of the noldor of former Eregion to enchant he&#039;s speaking voice. I would like to know WHERE and HOW have you came up with this knowledge because i have read a lot about middle earth and i have never found that Tolkien would have stated that Saruman had knowledge about making a ring of power or actualy made one. Also Where could he have made it? Orthanc or Isengard hadn&#039;t great forges before orcs came there and i doubt that forge any made by orc would be hot enough to make a ring of power.&lt;br /&gt;
Aromez&lt;br /&gt;
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== Google Maps for Arda ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey, I have finished the [[User:Eldarion_Telcontar/Google_Maps_for_Arda|Google Maps for Arda extension]], we talked about [[Tolkien_Gateway_talk:To-do#map_engine_for_middle-earth|here]]. KingAragorn has tested it on a MediaWiki server he set up and after resolving one error it works well. Now it would be great if you could install the extension on our server. You can find the installation instructions [[User:Eldarion Telcontar/Google Maps for Arda/Installation|here]] (it takes under 10 minutes to install).&lt;br /&gt;
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Best wishes, [[User:Eldarion Telcontar|Eldarion Telcontar]] 21:06, 3 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I see you&#039;re back Hyarion, what are your thoughts on this?--{{User:KingAragorn/sig}} 00:28, 24 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Love it, let me see if I can get it added tonight. --[[User:Hyarion|Hyarion]] 04:25, 24 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Hm, do either of you two have the Tiles.zip file handy? It looks like the rapidshare link expired. --[[User:Hyarion|Hyarion]] 05:20, 24 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::I have uploaded the file again. You can download it [http://rapidshare.de/files/48887909/Tiles.zip.html here]. Merry Christmas!! -- [[User:Eldarion Telcontar|Eldarion Telcontar]] 15:23, 24 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::You can see it working [http://arda.agilityhoster.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page here].--{{User:KingAragorn/sig}} 21:08, 10 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::: I really like this. Is there another way to download it? [[User:Smeagol|Smeagol]] 07:06, 12 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::: What are you looking for? You can download it [http://rapidshare.de/files/48887909/Tiles.zip.html here] from Rapidshare. I could upload it to another hoster as well if you like. -- [[User:Eldarion Telcontar|Eldarion Telcontar]] 20:29, 12 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Images==&lt;br /&gt;
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When I&#039;ve tried to insert pictures on various pages I have been unable to, and it said this message: &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Warning:&#039;&#039;&#039; passthru() has been disabled for security reasons in &#039;&#039;&#039;/home/tolkieng/public_html/w/includes/GlobalFunctions.php&#039;&#039;&#039; on line &#039;&#039;&#039;2024&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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could you explain what is going wrong? [[User:LotRfan01|LotRfan01]] 20:36, 17 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:It&#039;s a glitch since the last update. Hyar hasn&#039;t been around lately, but he&#039;s the one that can solve this, I&#039;ll see if I can email him tomorrow. For now, the best advice is to wait until it&#039;s been fixed, or, if it&#039;s really necessary, upload pics of about 250px wide. See also [[Forum:Image problems|here]]-- {{User:Ederchil/sig}} 21:43, 17 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Sorry for taking so long to get this fixed; it should be working now. --[[User:Hyarion|Hyarion]] 05:01, 23 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Chat problems? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The hyarion.gotdns.com subdomain seems to be out of order, and as a result none of the java entrances to the chat can be accessed. At least one other person has been asking about this for some time. Would be nice if you could find the time to try and iron out what&#039;s wrong. -- [[User:Mithrennaith|Mithrennaith]] 23:27, 20 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hi Mithrennaith, you bet, I&#039;ll see if I can get those Java clients up by the weekend. --[[User:Hyarion|Hyarion]] 05:02, 23 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Hi Hyarion, they still seem to be down - I haven’t been able to get any response out of them since my previous mention. — [[User:Mithrennaith|Mithrennaith]] 22:23, 10 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== 500 Internal Server Error ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I keep experiencing this with greater frequency. I know it&#039;s common on large family-tress, but I&#039;ve experienced this on smaller ones, on pages without family-trees and Recent Changes (I get this a lot on Recent Changes). I don&#039;t know what&#039;s going on there, but I thought I&#039;d better let you know. I don&#039;t know if I&#039;m the only person getting this. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 00:51, 3 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I have it too, and it happens to me mostly when I save a page. [[User:Grond|Grond]] 07:48, 3 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I have experienced it too, just now, when looking up the history of [[Amrod]] and when calling [[User:Þelma]]. — [[User:Mithrennaith|Mithrennaith]] 06:30, 23 February 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Me too, still seems like a common problem. --[[User:Morgan|Morgan]] 17:40, 6 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Still happens to me over the last few days regularly. — [[User:Mithrennaith|Mithrennaith]] 22:23, 10 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== My Bot ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hello Hyarion! Sorry to double-post on your talk page, but I was wondering whether for you could make [[User:Mithbot]] a bot? I promise I know what I&#039;m doing (I&#039;m using the [http://dotnetwikibot.sourceforge.net/ DotNetWikiBot Framework] which [[User:KingAragorn Bot]] uses) and would be fixing redirects, spelling errors, categorisations, that sort of thing. Thanks, --{{User:Mith/sig}} 00:11, 10 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Forum inputbox down ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Err ... while you’re at it, could you make [[:Forum:Council]] work again? Nobody can put up a new topic now (or you need to know exactly what needs doing and do a lot of work ‘manually’). — [[User:Mithrennaith|Mithrennaith]] 22:23, 10 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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