Vanyar

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The '''Vanyar''' are one of the three groups of [[High Elves]], along with the [[Noldor]], and some of the [[Teleri]]. They comprise most of those who did not leave Aman.

== Origins ==

The Vanyar are the highest of the High Elves. According to legend, the clan was founded by [[Imin]], the first [[Elf]] to awake in [[Cuiviénen]], his wife Iminyë, and their twelve companions. However it was [[Ingwë]], the first Vanya to travel with [[Oromë]] to [[Valinor]], who became their king.

Ingwë is called ''High King of the Elves''. He lives on [[Mount Taniquetil]] beneath the halls of [[Manwë]]. All of the Vanyar journeyed to [[Valinor]] before the beginning of the [[First Age]], and remained there. They are said to have the greatest skill in poetry of all the Elves, and Manwë loves them for it.

Another notable Vanya was [[Indis]], the second wife of [[Finwë]] and grandmother of [[Galadriel]]. It is from her Vanyarin blood that Galadriel gained her famous silver-gold hair.

== Description ==

The Vanyar were the first and smallest clan of the Elves. They typically had blonde hair. Few of them were ever seen in [[Middle-earth]], as they only returned for the [[War of Wrath]].

Their smiths were renowned in the crafting of spears. The skill was on par with the sword-smiths of the [[Noldor]] and the bowmakers of the [[Teleri]]

==Etymology==
The name ''Vanyar'' means "the Fair" in [[Quenya]], referring to their golden hair. The Vanyar called themselves '''''Minyar''''', "the Firsts", their ancient name.

Another name was '''''Ingar''''' with the same meaning or '''''Ingwer''''' which means "Chieftains" (etymologically related to the name [[Ingwë]]).

== Other Versions of the Legendarium ==
In the earliest versions of [[J.R.R. Tolkien|Tolkien's]] [[legendarium]] (see: ''[[The Book of Lost Tales 1]]''), they were called '''''Teleri''''', while the Elves known as [[Teleri]] in the published version of ''[[The Silmarillion]]'' were called ''Solosimpi''.

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Gildor

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<center>{{quote|Elves seldom give unguarded advice, for advice is a dangerous gift, even from the wise to the wise, and all courses may run ill.|Gildor Inglorion, ''[[Three is Company]]''}}</center>
'''Gildor Inglorion''' was a [[Noldor|Noldorin]] [[Elves|Elf]] of the House of [[Finrod Felagund|Finrod]], who in the [[Third Age]] lived in [[Rivendell]].

==Life==
Gildor was one of the [[Noldor Exiles]] of the [[House of Finrod]]. He could have been born on [[Valinor]] and the followed [[Fëanor]] under [[Finrod]], or simply born later on [[Beleriand]] during the [[First Age]]. During the [[Second Age|Second]] or [[Third Age]], he followed [[Elrond]] and lived in [[Rivendell]].

In September [[Third Age 3019|T.A. 3019]], he traveled with a [[Wandering Companies|company]] to Rivendell. They returned from the [[Emyn Beraid]], where they went to see [[Elbereth]] in the ''[[Elostirion-stone|palantír]]'' that was kept there. On the [[September 24|24th]], they met [[Frodo Baggins]], [[Samwise Gamgee]] and [[Peregrin Took]] on the road near the [[Woody End]]. They ate and sang, and Gildor discussed the peril that haunted the three [[hobbits]]. This peril, a [[Black Riders|Black Rider]], was near, but fled as he heard the Elves chant of Elbereth. After seperating from the hobbits, he went to the house of [[Tom Bombadil]]; this must have happened before the [[September 26|26th]]. He also sent a message to [[Elrond]].

Nothing else is known to have befallen him, and two years later, on [[September 22]], [[Third Age 3021|T.A. 3021]], he met the Hobbits once again. He accompanied a riding of great Lords and Ladies, that planned to sail [[West]] on board the [[White Ship]]. Whether Gildor joined them is uncertain.

== Gildor's Ancestry ==
Gildor is one of the less prominently featured Elves, yet he seems important enough to raise questions concerning his lineage, or the identity of this character. Gildor calls himself "Gildor Inglorion of the House of Finrod." He also says: "We are Exiles, and most of our kindred have long departed and we too are only tarrying here a while, ere we return over the [[Great Sea]].". At the time when ''The Lord of the Rings'' was written, Finrod still meant the character later known as [[Finarfin]]. We can place him among the Noldor who joined the host of Finarfin during the Exile, and came to [[Beleriand]] under Finrod Felagund.

It should also be noted that Tolkien initially used names from his (unpublished) ''[[The Silmarillion]]'' writings rather at random in ''[[The Hobbit]]'' and the first drafts of the sequel which would become ''The Lord of the Rings'': other examples are the mention of [[Gondolin]] and the appearance of [[Elrond]] in ''The Hobbit'', which were only later brought into alignment with ''The Lord of the Rings'' and the unpublished mythology by a third edition of the book.
===Son of Finrod?===
Some argue that the name "Inglorion", which means "son of Inglor", suggests that he was in fact the son of Finrod Felagund himself, who was at that time still called Inglor. There is, however, strong evidence against it.

In ''[[The Silmarillion]]'' it is stated that Finrod had no wife, since he loved [[Amarië]] of the [[Vanyar]], who refused to go with him to the exile. This means that he could only have a son after he died in [[Middle-earth]] and went to the [[Halls of Mandos]]. He might have been resurrected by Mandos, and then married Amarië. It is very unlikely (probably impossible), however, that he would be allowed to return to Middle-earth. The only such instance would be [[Glorfindel of Rivendell|Glorfindel]], and it is doubtful that if that was the case, there would be no mention of it in Tolkien's writings. Furthermore, Gildor would not describe himself as one of the Exiles.

Also, if he were Finrod's son, he would have right to claim High Kingship of the Noldor instead of [[Gil-galad]] after [[Turgon of Gondolin|Turgon's]] death. It is also said that there were only two children — [[Idril]] and [[Orodreth of Nargothrond|Orodreth]] — of "the third generation from [[Finwë]] to go with the exiles."

===Connection to Finarfin===
It is also possible that the name [[Inglor]] reappeared, in [[Quenya]] form, for Finarfin (who in the earlier legendarium, was named Finrod). The essay ''[[The Shibboleth of Fëanor]]'' mentions that Finarfin's full name was ''Finwë Arafinwë Ingalaurë''. If Ingalaurë is to be translated in [[Sindarin]] according to the sound-changing rules, this would become ''Inglor''. Thus, the connection of Gildor to the house of Finrod/Finarfin still remains in the updated legendarium.

This all suggests that, while Gildor might have been initially intended to be Felagund's son, in the final version he probably became a member of the House of Finrod as one of its servants, not one of its sons — perhaps one of the knights of [[Nargothrond]], and a son of Inglor — a character unconnected to Finrod Felagund.

==Portrayal in Adaptations==
Gildor is generally left out of adaptations. This may cause some problems when two characters the hobbits meet later - Bombadil and [[Glorfindel]] (or [[Glorfindel#Portrayal in Adaptations|his replacement]]) - are introduced.

'''1978: ''[[Ralph Bakshi's The Lord of the Rings]]'':'''
:[[Legolas of Mirkwood|Legolas]], here an Elf of Rivendell, tells Strider that Elrond had received news of the burden, but it is left unexplained how.

'''1981: ''[[The Lord of the Rings (1981 radio series)|BBC Radio's The Lord of the Rings]]'':'''
:Adapter [[Brian Sibley]] wanted to use as much of the original Elvish lines as possible. This ment that the heavily wounded Frodo told the line ''Elen síla lúmenn' omentielvo'' to Glorfindel instead.

[[Image:Peter Jackson's Elves.jpg|thumb|The band of Elves in Peter Jackson's movie]]
'''2001: ''[[Peter Jackson's The Fellowship of the Ring]]'':'''
:In the [[The Fellowship of the Ring Extended Edition|extended DVD edition]] a scene that could be an echo of Gildor and his pilgrim band appears. Frodo and Sam see from the distance a band of Elves chanting in [[Sindarin]] to Elbereth. However, Frodo says to Sam that they march ''to'' the Grey Havens, while Gildor's band actually returned to Rivendell from the Emyn Beraid; also, no interaction is made between the two Hobbits and the Elves.

'''2002: ''[[Vivendi's The Fellowship of the Ring (game)|Vivendi's The Fellowship of the Ring]]'':'''
:This video game features both [[Tom Bombadil]] as [[Glorfindel]]. Tom apparently knows nothing of Frodo carrying the Ring, yet Glorfindel does - he is sent out by Elrond. Elrond had received a message, but from whom this message came is left untold.

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