User talk:Ederchil

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85.154.153.2: /* Reverts on my edits to Fingon and Turgon. */

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==WITN release year==
Just a little note, [[The Lord of the Rings: War in the North]] is published in [[2011]]. --[[User:Amroth|Amroth]] 13:59, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

== Secret Vice ==

Hi Ederchil! Why did you [http://www.tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=A_Secret_Vice&action=historysubmit&diff=186885&oldid=186884 revert this]? --[[User:Morgan|Morgan]] 21:25, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

:Couple of reasons:
* No markup.
* No sources.
* No composition.
* Poor spelling.
* POV. He begins "in a subtle fasion [sic]"? That's commentary.
:Basically, that an article requires a rewrite does not mean we can accept anything. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 21:40, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

::Well, I still think it was a pretty good summary (although especially suffering from a POV as you say, - but the poor spelling is easily fixed and if the POV is removed no sources would be needed as it would be only a summary). I'll have a go at editing the anonymous user's text.--[[User:Morgan|Morgan]] 12:48, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

:::It was more work than I expected ;-) --[[User:Morgan|Morgan]] 14:26, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

== Vandalism ==

I suspect you'll likely notice [http://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Battle_of_Five_Armies&action=historysubmit&diff=191929&oldid=190658 this] anyhow, but I wanted to leave a note just in case.--[[User:Morgan|Morgan]]

:Sorry, full day of classes. Looks like Mith already has it. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 14:45, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

== On Tolkien ==

As far as I know, it hasn't been published yet.--[[User:Morgan|Morgan]] 16:03, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

== Noel ==

IMHO, I don't think it's problematic to use Noel as a source in those cases where no other analyses of a name have appeared. Especially if we're clear about giving the reference and denoting the etymology as being a "suggestion". And if a new analysis appears, it's possible to see how olkien linguists have historically interpreted a certain word. I'd say it's a bit similar to "Portrayal in Adaptions": even if we don't think that this or that adaptation was authentic, we still include it for the sake of completeness. What do you think? --[[User:Morgan|Morgan]] 14:44, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

:Normally I'd say true, but in this case, it's so obviously proven incorrect by later info that we'd best not mention it. I haven't checked the Etymologies, Elfling or PE yet for a more accurate etymology. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 14:51, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

==Question==

Hi I'm Vaire thanks for making my user page open for other people and a real page, and I have a question, on the user page how do you add the box on the side where you can describe yourself? You can tell me on my user page [[User:Vaire|Vaire]]

Thank you, sorry about the mistakes I made in editing [[User:Vaire|Vaire]]

I did what it said to do in the here but when I saved it just said all the things I typed, I did do it on my iPad if that makes a difference. [[User:Vaire|Vaire]]

:I have no idea what you're trying to tell me. You tried what? --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 17:10, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

For the user info box I copied what it said on the link you gave me and filled it out and I saved it an my user page but the box did not come up it just said was I typed, but when I typed it I used my iPad, does that make I difference? [[User:Vaire|Vaire]]

:No, it went wrong because you typed the template instead of copy pasting it. Those vertical lines aren't capital I's. That's a "pipe", |. You can find it on uppercase \ on most keyboards, not sure about the iPad. I fixed it, it displays properly now. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 18:38, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Thank you!! And I think that I can edit know [[User:Vaire|Vaire]]

:Please don't copy from Wikipedia. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 21:35, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

==Years==

Thank you for telling me about adding the catagorys when creating a page about a year. [[User:Vaire|Vaire]] 16:18, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

== New signs? ==

Perhaps add £ $ € to the insert box? I have neither of these on my keyboard.--[[User:Morgan|Morgan]] 23:18, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

:They're already on there. Okay, not the Dollar, but Pound and Euro are. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 07:24, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

== Deletion of old version of images ==

Could you delete the old versions of [[:File:Verlyn Flieger.jpg]] and [[:File:Ted Nasmith.jpg]]?--{{User:KingAragorn/sig}} 22:00, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

:Yes, yes I can. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 22:10, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

::Thanks!--{{User:KingAragorn/sig}} 22:56, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

== Reverts on my edits to Fingon and Turgon. ==

Hi there.
Recently, I made some contribution to the Etymologies of Fingon and Turgon. The original writing did not give clear meanings, and just showed a lot of IPA. I made some proper edits to them, quoting from Tokien's works, showing the roots of all the different elements within their names. however, my edits appear to have been removed since i didn't reference the facts. This is not strictly true, since I wrote all the references to my information directly in the section. I just didn't show them as footnote references.
Will you revert it? Should i add footnote references?

--[[User:Reallyfat|Reallyfat]] 17:26, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

:Couple of points:
:* Yes, inline notes are preferred. See [[Template:HM|here]] for all the sourcing templates.
:* You should never, ever, use the first person on a wiki. "We know..." Aargh.
:* Beginning a second paragraph with "Note that"... also a stylistic no no.
:* The entire second paragraph of Fingon is incorrect. Caun is attested Sindarin, and it would become -gon.
:So, it's not at all about sources... it's because cleaning up required too much work, and would eventually be no different from the original. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 17:34, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Right, thanks a lot. I will remove the second paragraph there and in Turgon., since i was not paying attention to "Caun". I wonder how I overlooked it? I was following the books all the way. Anyway, I will do that, and take care with the first person in future. Apart from that, can the translations remain up?

PS: What is wrong with saying "note that"?
--[[User:Reallyfat|Reallyfat]] 17:56, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

::"Note that" is almost without exception followed by something that is completely not worth noting. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 17:57, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Right. I will keep that in mind.
So, CAN I post my edits (with the amendments made)? I just want to putthe proper translations up, since these current ones aren't exactly correct. Plus, Sarafinwë is only from Parma Eldalamberon, It isn't even from Tolkien's works.

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