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2023-12-16T21:31:27Z

Android927: /* Other attempts section */ new section

== Other attempts section ==

I noticed that [[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] removed my section about other attempts to compile a "complete" version of the tale (as well as [https://www.reddit.com/r/tolkienfans/comments/z4ixz1/fan_project_a_composite_version_of_the_fall_of/ my reference to one such version which i have been working on on-and-off for the past year]), but does the addition of such a section really hurt the article in any way? I understand that this can be seen as a form of self-promotion as i myself am the editor of such a work, but i still believe that readers of this article might find such a section to be relevant, especially since the text of "The Tale of Gondolin" is not publicly available outside of the original print run of 50 books. [[User:Android927|Android927]] ([[User talk:Android927|talk]]) 21:31, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

The Tale of Gondolin

2023-12-16T20:53:35Z

Android927: /* Other attempts */

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|title=The Tale of Gondolin
|image=[[Image:tale_gondolin.jpg|225px]]
|author=[[J.R.R. Tolkien]], [[Alex Lewis]] (editor)
|publisher=privately printed and bound in Great Britian
|date=[[1987]] (first edition)
|format=Hardcover
|pages=228+
|isbn=
|amazon=
|amazonprice=
}}

'''''The Tale of Gondolin''''' is an attempt by [[Alex Lewis]] to compile the unfinished tales of [[Turgon]] and [[Gondolin]] by [[J.R.R. Tolkien]] into a single publication (in a manner similar to ''[[The Children of Húrin]]''). The story draws upon texts from ''[[The Silmarillion]]'', ''[[Unfinished Tales]]: "[[Of Tuor and his Coming to Gondolin]]''", and ''[[The Book of Lost Tales Part Two]]''.

''The Tale of Gondolin'' was not backed by the [[Tolkien Estate]], although it is claimed that [[Priscilla Tolkien]] gave a verbal permission to Lewis to work with the project.<ref>[http://www.hobbit.ca/Gondolin-variations.html Hobbit.ca: "The Tale of Gondolin", as of April 14, 2010]</ref>

The publication was limited to 50 copies worldwide and the suggested value for a single copy is well over $1,000.

==Chapters==

*Preface to second edition
*Preface: Page 1
*Introduction to illustrated and illuminated edition: Page 4
*1. The Road to Gondolin: Page 7
*2. The Dark Nephew: Page 20
*3. The Fourth and Fifth Battles: Page 37
*4. Of Tuor and his Journeys: Page 57
*5. The Dark Road: Page 89
*6. The City of Stone and Song: Page 109
*7. The Gathering Storm: Page 140
*8. Of the end of Song: Page 165
*9 The Road to the Sea: Page 204
*Epilogue
*Index of illustrations by Ruth Lacon

==Editions==

===First Edition===
In [[1987]] two proof copies of the book were produced. One was red leather bound and given to [[Priscilla Tolkien]] and the other was clothbound for Lewis. Neither copies were signed or illustrated.

===First State===
[[Image:The Tale of Gondolin1.jpg|thumb|The cover of the first state]]

In [[1992]], artist [[Ruth Lacon]] was commissioned to make illustrations for the book. She strived to create "a modern analogue to an illustrated and illuminated medieval manuscript."<ref>"A note from Ruth Lacon" in ADC Art & Books: catalogue 2009/10, p.30.</ref>

By the end of [[1995]], 28 out of the 50 copies had been sold though they were not sold in sequential order. The "Number One" was donated to Priscilla Tolkien. These 28 are known as the First State.

===Second State===
[[Image:The Tale of Gondolin.jpg|thumb|The cover of the second state]]
In late 2003 or early 2004 a US book collector found out from Alex Lewis that the remaining 22 copies had not been sold and were still unbound. He chose to buy the 22 copies and had them bound by another binder in Manchester as the original binder had unfortunately passed away. These 22 newly bound copies were finished in 2004 and are known as the Second State.

==Other attempts==
As the text of "The Tale of Gondolin" is not publicly available, with physical copies being exceedingly rare, there have been attempts by others<ref>[https://www.reddit.com/r/tolkienfans/comments/z4ixz1/fan_project_a_composite_version_of_the_fall_of/ Reddit.com: "Fan project: a composite version of 'The Fall of Gondolin'"]</ref> to achieve the same goal. How such attempts compare to the published version of "The Tale of Gondolin" is not known.

==External links==
* [http://www.tolkienlibrary.com/reviews/taleofgondolin.htm Review by TolkienLibrary.com]
* [http://www.hobbit.ca/Gondolin.html More information at Hobbit.ca]

==See also==
* ''[[The Ruins of Osgiliath]]''

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[[Category:Fiction books]]
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The Tale of Gondolin

2023-12-16T20:52:35Z

Android927: Added a section for other attempts to recreate the complete story of Gondolin. Linked to a reddit post i made of my own personal attempt.

{{book
|title=The Tale of Gondolin
|image=[[Image:tale_gondolin.jpg|225px]]
|author=[[J.R.R. Tolkien]], [[Alex Lewis]] (editor)
|publisher=privately printed and bound in Great Britian
|date=[[1987]] (first edition)
|format=Hardcover
|pages=228+
|isbn=
|amazon=
|amazonprice=
}}

'''''The Tale of Gondolin''''' is an attempt by [[Alex Lewis]] to compile the unfinished tales of [[Turgon]] and [[Gondolin]] by [[J.R.R. Tolkien]] into a single publication (in a manner similar to ''[[The Children of Húrin]]''). The story draws upon texts from ''[[The Silmarillion]]'', ''[[Unfinished Tales]]: "[[Of Tuor and his Coming to Gondolin]]''", and ''[[The Book of Lost Tales Part Two]]''.

''The Tale of Gondolin'' was not backed by the [[Tolkien Estate]], although it is claimed that [[Priscilla Tolkien]] gave a verbal permission to Lewis to work with the project.<ref>[http://www.hobbit.ca/Gondolin-variations.html Hobbit.ca: "The Tale of Gondolin", as of April 14, 2010]</ref>

The publication was limited to 50 copies worldwide and the suggested value for a single copy is well over $1,000.

==Chapters==

*Preface to second edition
*Preface: Page 1
*Introduction to illustrated and illuminated edition: Page 4
*1. The Road to Gondolin: Page 7
*2. The Dark Nephew: Page 20
*3. The Fourth and Fifth Battles: Page 37
*4. Of Tuor and his Journeys: Page 57
*5. The Dark Road: Page 89
*6. The City of Stone and Song: Page 109
*7. The Gathering Storm: Page 140
*8. Of the end of Song: Page 165
*9 The Road to the Sea: Page 204
*Epilogue
*Index of illustrations by Ruth Lacon

==Editions==

===First Edition===
In [[1987]] two proof copies of the book were produced. One was red leather bound and given to [[Priscilla Tolkien]] and the other was clothbound for Lewis. Neither copies were signed or illustrated.

===First State===
[[Image:The Tale of Gondolin1.jpg|thumb|The cover of the first state]]

In [[1992]], artist [[Ruth Lacon]] was commissioned to make illustrations for the book. She strived to create "a modern analogue to an illustrated and illuminated medieval manuscript."<ref>"A note from Ruth Lacon" in ADC Art & Books: catalogue 2009/10, p.30.</ref>

By the end of [[1995]], 28 out of the 50 copies had been sold though they were not sold in sequential order. The "Number One" was donated to Priscilla Tolkien. These 28 are known as the First State.

===Second State===
[[Image:The Tale of Gondolin.jpg|thumb|The cover of the second state]]
In late 2003 or early 2004 a US book collector found out from Alex Lewis that the remaining 22 copies had not been sold and were still unbound. He chose to buy the 22 copies and had them bound by another binder in Manchester as the original binder had unfortunately passed away. These 22 newly bound copies were finished in 2004 and are known as the Second State.

==Other attempts==
As the text of "The Tale of Gondolin" is not publicly available, with physical copies being exceedingly rare, there have been attempts by others<ref>[https://www.reddit.com/r/tolkienfans/comments/z4ixz1/fan_project_a_composite_version_of_the_fall_of/ Reddit.com: "Fan project: a composite version of "The Fall of Gondolin"]</ref> to achieve the same goal. How such attempts compare to the published version of "The Tale of Gondolin" is not known.

==External links==
* [http://www.tolkienlibrary.com/reviews/taleofgondolin.htm Review by TolkienLibrary.com]
* [http://www.hobbit.ca/Gondolin.html More information at Hobbit.ca]

==See also==
* ''[[The Ruins of Osgiliath]]''

{{references}}
{{title|italics}}
{{DEFAULTSORT:Tale of Gondolin}}
[[Category:Fiction books]]
[[Category:Books by J.R.R. Tolkien]]
[[Category:Publications by title]]