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		<id>https://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Naurivor&amp;diff=250697</id>
		<title>Naurivor</title>
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		<updated>2014-07-13T01:15:00Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Bigb131999: Created page with &amp;quot;Naurivor was a plant that was only seen in the Lord of the Rings: War in the North video game, and was created specifically for that. Thus is is non-canon in terms of what the pr...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Naurivor was a plant that was only seen in the Lord of the Rings: War in the North video game, and was created specifically for that. Thus is is non-canon in terms of what the professor penned himself, as it was made and added to the lore for a video game. Neverhteless, it is an alchemical ingredient that can be used by Andriel, a master of Herblore, to make potions and other materials.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Bigb131999</name></author>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Tharzog&amp;diff=250687</id>
		<title>Tharzog</title>
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		<updated>2014-07-11T21:54:07Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Bigb131999: /* Personality */&lt;/p&gt;
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|image=[[File:The Lord of the Rings War in the North - Tharzog.jpg|250px]]&lt;br /&gt;
|name=Tharzog&lt;br /&gt;
|othernames=&lt;br /&gt;
|birth=&lt;br /&gt;
|death={{TA|3018}}&lt;br /&gt;
|race=Orc&lt;br /&gt;
|gender=Male&lt;br /&gt;
|height= estimated 7ft&lt;br /&gt;
|hair= Dark black/brown&lt;br /&gt;
|eyes=Yellow&lt;br /&gt;
|realms= Mount Gram&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
}}Tharzog is a character in &#039;&#039;&#039;[[The Lord of the Rings: War in the North]]&#039;&#039; and the first boss of that game. He was the chieftain of the [[Orcs]] of [[Mount Gram]].&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Citadeltower&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[The Lord of the Rings: War in the North]], Chapter 1: Fornost, &#039;&#039;Citadel Tower&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==History==&lt;br /&gt;
When Tharzog heard that [[Agandaûr]] assembled an army in [[Fornost]], he travelled to Fornost and fought a way to the citadel.  Here he offered his services to Agandaûr, who accepted it after recognizing Tharzog&#039;s strength and loyalty to [[Sauron]]. Tharzog became Agandaûr&#039;s lieutenant.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;backstory&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{webcite|author=|articleurl=http://www.warinthenorth.com/index.php/the-game/enemies|articlename=Enemies|dated=|website=warinthenorth.com|accessed=22 February 2012}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; When [[Eradan (video game character)|Eradan]], [[Andriel]], [[Farin (video game character)|Farin]], [[Elladan]] and [[Elrohir]] infiltrated Fornost, Tharzog was the one who told Agandaûr that there were intruders and that [[Belarum]] - a captured [[Eagles|Eagle]] - was freed. He noticed the intruders trying to sneaking into the Citadel tower, after which he ordered to close the gate to the top of the tower. This seperated Eradan, Andriel and Farin from Elladan and Elrohir. The latter confronted Agandaûr, while he and his guard fought the earlier. He was killed by them, and his guard was slaughtered.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Citadeltower&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Personality==&lt;br /&gt;
Unlike many other Orcs and [[Goblins]], Tharzog was truely loyal to [[Sauron]] and Agandaûr. He would sacrifice his whole guard to protect Agandaûr and ensure that Sauron&#039;s plans would be succesful. He was both very strong and quick, and was therefore most feared - with the sole exception of Agandaûr - of all creatures in Fornost.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;backstory&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;1.ytimg.com/vi/O65wsfVJTJo/hqdefault.jpg&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==See Also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[:Category:Images of Tharzog|Images of Tharzog]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Agandaûr]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{references}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Orcs in adaptations]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:The Lord of the Rings: War in the North Characters]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Bigb131999</name></author>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Tharzog&amp;diff=250686</id>
		<title>Tharzog</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Tharzog&amp;diff=250686"/>
		<updated>2014-07-11T21:51:30Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Bigb131999: &lt;/p&gt;
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|image=[[File:The Lord of the Rings War in the North - Tharzog.jpg|250px]]&lt;br /&gt;
|name=Tharzog&lt;br /&gt;
|othernames=&lt;br /&gt;
|birth=&lt;br /&gt;
|death={{TA|3018}}&lt;br /&gt;
|race=Orc&lt;br /&gt;
|gender=Male&lt;br /&gt;
|height= estimated 7ft&lt;br /&gt;
|hair= Dark black/brown&lt;br /&gt;
|eyes=Yellow&lt;br /&gt;
|realms= Mount Gram&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
}}Tharzog is a character in &#039;&#039;&#039;[[The Lord of the Rings: War in the North]]&#039;&#039; and the first boss of that game. He was the chieftain of the [[Orcs]] of [[Mount Gram]].&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Citadeltower&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[The Lord of the Rings: War in the North]], Chapter 1: Fornost, &#039;&#039;Citadel Tower&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==History==&lt;br /&gt;
When Tharzog heard that [[Agandaûr]] assembled an army in [[Fornost]], he travelled to Fornost and fought a way to the citadel.  Here he offered his services to Agandaûr, who accepted it after recognizing Tharzog&#039;s strength and loyalty to [[Sauron]]. Tharzog became Agandaûr&#039;s lieutenant.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;backstory&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{webcite|author=|articleurl=http://www.warinthenorth.com/index.php/the-game/enemies|articlename=Enemies|dated=|website=warinthenorth.com|accessed=22 February 2012}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; When [[Eradan (video game character)|Eradan]], [[Andriel]], [[Farin (video game character)|Farin]], [[Elladan]] and [[Elrohir]] infiltrated Fornost, Tharzog was the one who told Agandaûr that there were intruders and that [[Belarum]] - a captured [[Eagles|Eagle]] - was freed. He noticed the intruders trying to sneaking into the Citadel tower, after which he ordered to close the gate to the top of the tower. This seperated Eradan, Andriel and Farin from Elladan and Elrohir. The latter confronted Agandaûr, while he and his guard fought the earlier. He was killed by them, and his guard was slaughtered.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Citadeltower&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Personality==&lt;br /&gt;
Unlike many other Orcs and [[Goblins]], Tharzog was truely loyal to [[Sauron]] and Agandaûr. He would sacrifice his whole guard to protect Agandaûr and ensure that Sauron&#039;s plans would be succesful. He was both very strong and quick, and was therefore most feared - with the sole exception of Agandaûr - of all creatures in Fornost.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;backstory&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==See Also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[:Category:Images of Tharzog|Images of Tharzog]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Agandaûr]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{references}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Orcs in adaptations]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:The Lord of the Rings: War in the North Characters]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Bigb131999</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Tharzog&amp;diff=250685</id>
		<title>Tharzog</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Tharzog&amp;diff=250685"/>
		<updated>2014-07-11T21:49:18Z</updated>

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|image=[[File:The Lord of the Rings War in the North - Tharzog.jpg|250px]]&lt;br /&gt;
|name=Tharzog&lt;br /&gt;
|othernames=&lt;br /&gt;
|birth=&lt;br /&gt;
|death={{TA|3018}}&lt;br /&gt;
|race=Orc&lt;br /&gt;
|gender=Male&lt;br /&gt;
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}}Tharzog is a character in &#039;&#039;&#039;[[The Lord of the Rings: War in the North]]&#039;&#039; and the first boss of that game. He was the chieftain of the [[Orcs]] of [[Mount Gram]].&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Citadeltower&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[The Lord of the Rings: War in the North]], Chapter 1: Fornost, &#039;&#039;Citadel Tower&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==History==&lt;br /&gt;
When Tharzog heard that [[Agandaûr]] assembled an army in [[Fornost]], he travelled to Fornost and fought a way to the citadel.  Here he offered his services to Agandaûr, who accepted it after recognizing Tharzog&#039;s strength and loyalty to [[Sauron]]. Tharzog became Agandaûr&#039;s lieutenant.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;backstory&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{webcite|author=|articleurl=http://www.warinthenorth.com/index.php/the-game/enemies|articlename=Enemies|dated=|website=warinthenorth.com|accessed=22 February 2012}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; When [[Eradan (video game character)|Eradan]], [[Andriel]], [[Farin (video game character)|Farin]], [[Elladan]] and [[Elrohir]] infiltrated Fornost, Tharzog was the one who told Agandaûr that there were intruders and that [[Belarum]] - a captured [[Eagles|Eagle]] - was freed. He noticed the intruders trying to sneaking into the Citadel tower, after which he ordered to close the gate to the top of the tower. This seperated Eradan, Andriel and Farin from Elladan and Elrohir. The latter confronted Agandaûr, while he and his guard fought the earlier. He was killed by them, and his guard was slaughtered.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Citadeltower&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Personality==&lt;br /&gt;
Unlike many other Orcs and [[Goblins]], Tharzog was truely loyal to [[Sauron]] and Agandaûr. He would sacrifice his whole guard to protect Agandaûr and ensure that Sauron&#039;s plans would be succesful. He was both very strong and quick, and was therefore most feared - with the sole exception of Agandaûr - of all creatures in Fornost.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;backstory&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==See Also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[:Category:Images of Tharzog|Images of Tharzog]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Agandaûr]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{references}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Orcs in adaptations]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:The Lord of the Rings: War in the North Characters]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Bigb131999</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Monolith_Productions&amp;diff=250684</id>
		<title>Monolith Productions</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Monolith_Productions&amp;diff=250684"/>
		<updated>2014-07-11T21:46:29Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Bigb131999: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Monolith Productions is a video game entertainment company, that i making itself more and more well known in tolkien&#039;s world, and to his fans. In 2012 they released the MOBA Guardians of Middle-Earth, and they are currently working on the AAA action-rpg Middle-Earth: Shadow of Mordor. If successful, monolith has stated that they wish for it to be a franchise.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Bigb131999</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Monolith_Productions&amp;diff=250683</id>
		<title>Monolith Productions</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Monolith_Productions&amp;diff=250683"/>
		<updated>2014-07-11T21:45:48Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Bigb131999: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Monolith Productions is a video game entertainment company, that i making itself more and more well known in tolkien&#039;s world, and to his fans. In 2012 they released the MOBA Guardians of Middle-Earth, and they are currently working on the AAA action-rpg Middle-Earth: Shadow of Mordor. If successful, monolith has stated that they wish for it to be a franchise.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;monolith productions on wikipedia&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Bigb131999</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Monolith_Productions&amp;diff=250682</id>
		<title>Monolith Productions</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Monolith_Productions&amp;diff=250682"/>
		<updated>2014-07-11T21:42:51Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Bigb131999: creating a previously red monolith productions page&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;            Monolith Productions is a video game entertainment company, that i making itself more and more well known in tolkien&#039;s world, and to his fans. In 2012 they released the MOBA Guardians of Middle-Earth, and they are currently working on the AAA action-rpg Middle-Earth: Shadow of Mordor. If successful, monolith has stated that they wish for it to be a franchise.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Bigb131999</name></author>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Great_Goblin&amp;diff=250609</id>
		<title>Great Goblin</title>
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		<updated>2014-07-07T15:41:48Z</updated>

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|image=[[File:John Howe - The Great Goblin.jpg|250px]]&lt;br /&gt;
|name=Great Goblin&lt;br /&gt;
|othernames=&lt;br /&gt;
|birth=&lt;br /&gt;
|death={{TA|2941}}&lt;br /&gt;
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}}&lt;br /&gt;
The &#039;&#039;&#039;Great Goblin&#039;&#039;&#039; was the chief of the [[Orcs|Goblins]] who dwelt in [[Goblin-town]] beneath the [[High Pass]] in the [[Misty Mountains]].  He was described as “tremendous” and had a huge head.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Hill&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{H|Hill}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In {{TA|2941}}&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{App|TA}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; [[Thorin and Company]] were captured by the Great Goblin&#039;s people after taking refuge in a [[Front Porch|cave]] while crossing the [[Misty Mountains]].  When the [[Dwarves]] and [[Bilbo Baggins|Bilbo]] were hauled before the Great Goblin he questioned them regarding their intentions, while accusing them of being spies, thieves, murderers, and friends of [[Elves]].  When one of his guards showed the Great Goblin [[Thorin]]&#039;s sword, [[Orcrist]], he howled with rage and rushed at Thorin with open mouth.  At that moment all of the lights in the cave were extinguished and a flashing sword stabbed the Great Goblin fatally.  The company soon realized that it was [[Gandalf]] who had killed the Great Goblin with his blade [[Glamdring]].&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Hill&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It was the death of the Great Goblin that tickled [[Beorn]]&#039;s fancy enough to gain the Company access to his hall and hospitality.  Once Beorn confirmed their tale he warmed up to true friendship and provided the party with aid, advice, and mounts to ride to the border of [[Mirkwood]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{H|Queer}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A further consequence of the Great Goblin&#039;s demise was a rekindling of the goblins&#039; fury towards Dwarves, which led to preparations for war to secure domination of the North.  The goblins assembled at Mount [[Gundabad]] and were about to sweep southward when they learned of the death of [[Smaug]].  Altering their plans, the goblins marched by night through the mountains and appeared unexpectedly at [[Lonely Mountain|Erebor]], almost immediately after the arrival of [[Dáin Ironfoot]], and participated the [[Battle of Five Armies]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{H|Burst}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Portrayal in Adapatations==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;gallery&amp;gt;File: The Hobbit (1977 film) - Great Goblin 2.jpg|The Great Goblin in [[The Hobbit (1977 film)|&#039;&#039;The Hobbit&#039;&#039; (1977 film)]]&lt;br /&gt;
File:The Hobbit - An Unexpected Journey - Goblin King.jpg|The &amp;quot;Goblin King&amp;quot; in &#039;&#039;[[The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey]]&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/gallery&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;1977: [[The Hobbit (1977 film)|&#039;&#039;The Hobbit&#039;&#039; (1977 film)]]:&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:In the animated version of &#039;&#039;[[The Hobbit (1977 film)|The Hobbit]]&#039;&#039;, the Great Goblin was voiced by [[John Stephenson]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;2012: [[The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey|&#039;&#039;The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey&#039;&#039;]]:&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:The &amp;quot;Goblin King&amp;quot; was portrayed by [[Barry Humphries]] through voice acting and motion capture.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;PJCasting&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{webcite|author=[[Peter Jackson]]|articleurl=http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150286515141558|articlename=The Hobbit Casting Update|dated=19-June-2011|website=[http://www.facebook.com/ Facebook]|accessed=23-Dec-2011}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[:Category:Images of the Great Goblin|Images of the Great Goblin]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{References}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Orcs]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Characters in The Hobbit]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Evil]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[de:Großer Ork]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[fi:Iso Hiisi]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Category:Upcoming_video_games&amp;diff=250608</id>
		<title>Category:Upcoming video games</title>
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		<updated>2014-07-07T15:35:30Z</updated>

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&lt;div&gt;This category lists all &#039;&#039;&#039;upcoming video games&#039;&#039;&#039; related to [[J.R.R. Tolkien|J.R.R. Tolkien&#039;s]] works.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Video games]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Shadow of mordor&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Minstrels&amp;diff=250593</id>
		<title>Minstrels</title>
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		<updated>2014-07-07T01:07:26Z</updated>

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&lt;div&gt;[[File:The Return of the King (1980 film) - Minstrel of Gondor.png|thumb|250px|right|The minstrel of [[Gondor]] in [[The Return of the King (1980 film)|&#039;&#039;The Return of the King&#039;&#039; (1980 film)]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Minstrels&#039;&#039;&#039; are those persons who had the ability to compose and sing songs. It can be imagined that they were all very intelligent,and some even impressive storytellers, as bards normally are. Daeron himself was the deviser of and alphabet, the cirth, which was used in Khuzdul among other things. Although many people sang, and a number created songs, only a few became widely famous for their musical compositions.  Four of these are known by name: &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Daeron]] of the [[First Age]], who was the court minstrel of King [[Thingol]] of [[Doriath]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{S|Sindar}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Gléowine]] of the late [[Third Age]], was the court minstrel of King [[Théoden]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{RK|Partings}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Glirhuin]] of the [[First Age]], was a [[seer]] and harp-player who composed a song that predicted that the [[Stone of the Hapless]] would never be defiled or sink beneath the sea.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{S|Doriath}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Maglor]] of the [[First Age]], was the second of the [[Sons of Fëanor]] and was famed as a poet and bard.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{S|Princes}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{references}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Positions and Occupations]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Grond (battering ram)</title>
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[[File:The Lord of the Rings - The Return of the King - Grond.jpg|thumb|250px|Grond, as portrayed in [[The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King]]]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Grond&#039;&#039;&#039; was a battering ram, used by [[Sauron]]&#039;s forces to destroy the [[Great Gate of Minas Tirith|Great Gate]] of [[Minas Tirith]] during the [[Battle of the Pelennor Fields]]. The ram was &amp;quot;a hundred feet in length&amp;quot;, and its head was of black steel, made to resemble a wolf. It is told that Grond had been induced with &amp;quot;[[magic|spells of ruin]]&amp;quot;. During the Siege of Gondor, Grond was drawn to the Great Gate by &amp;quot;[[great beasts]]&amp;quot; and was wielded by [[mountain-trolls]].&amp;lt;ref name=RKV4&amp;gt;{{RK|V4}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
This battering ram was the only ram that could break the gates of Minas Tirith, and it was a fearsome sight to behold obviously. It is unknown if the ram was salvaged by sauron&#039;s forces after the battle, or if it was lost or wrecked by the forces of Gondor or Rohan during or after the subsequent battle of pellenor fields.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Etymology==&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Grond&#039;&#039; means &amp;quot;very weighty and ponderous&amp;quot; in [[Sindarin]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{PE|17}}, pp. 99, 183&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; It was named intentionally to evoke the memory of the ancient weapon of [[Morgoth]], the &amp;quot;[[Grond (Hammer of the Underworld)|Hammer of the Underworld]]&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref name=RKV4/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Portrayal in Adaptions ==&lt;br /&gt;
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File:The Return of the King (1980 film) - Grond.png|Grond, as portrayed in [[The Return of the King (1980 film)|&#039;&#039;The Return of the King&#039;&#039; (1980 film)]]&amp;lt;/gallery&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;2003: &#039;&#039;[[The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King]]&#039;&#039;:&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:The ram took the shape of the whole wolf&#039;s body, rather of just its head. [[Gothmog (Lieutenant of Morgul)|Gothmog]] called it in after a smaller battering ram proved futile against the great gates.&lt;br /&gt;
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== valimar ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi Hyarion, I&#039;m one of the Founders &amp;amp; Bureaucrats of [http://wiki.valimar.ir/index.php?title=%D8%B5%D9%81%D8%AD%D9%87%D9%94_%D8%A7%D8%B5%D9%84%DB%8C valimar] (and also one of [http://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%DA%A9%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%A8%D8%B1:PHoBiA the admins] in [http://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%B5%D9%81%D8%AD%D9%87%D9%94_%D8%A7%D8%B5%D9%84%DB%8C Persian Wikipedia]). I&#039;m glad that you setup us as your sister-site. I&#039;ll setup reciprocal links to TG articles as soon as possible. Best Regards -- [[User:PHoBiA|PHoBiA]] 19:41, 27 March 2011 (UTC) &lt;br /&gt;
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== Missing Gandalf edit in recent changes ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The database seems to have behaved strangely when I edited [[Gandalf]]. I removed the occurrences of the word &amp;quot;human&amp;quot; from the article, and couldn&#039;t load the page. However, looking in the article history, my edit is there, but it doesn&#039;t appear in &amp;quot;Recent changes&amp;quot;. And strangely enough, a search for &amp;quot;human&amp;quot; on TG still yields the article &amp;quot;Gandalf&amp;quot;, although the word &amp;quot;human&amp;quot; cannot be found (any longer) in the article. Maybe the issue will disappear once the database reloads or refreshes! :-)  --[[User:Morgan|Morgan]] 23:11, 24 April 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::While you&#039;re at it, another strange page is the [[Portal:Locations/Category tree]]. This page, which has been changed to a redirect, still seems to carry an imprint in the database somehow. E.g., searching on &amp;quot;human&amp;quot; on TG makes &amp;quot;Portal:Locations/Category Tree&amp;quot; show up. --[[User:Morgan|Morgan]] 23:28, 24 April 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== what is a Tolkien Mile ? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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It seems to me that there is something wrong with using a standard (english) mile for Tolkiens Maps.  The result is a Middle Earth which is too small. Tolkien used a lot of History and Myth from other parts of Northern Europe. Could Tolkiens Mile actually be the &#039;Irish&#039; mile which was used by the English in Ireland for centuries. I will get more detail if needed but I think 1 &#039;irish&#039; mile is equal to 1.27 &#039;english&#039; miles. If this were the case Middle Earth would be 27% greater in size which would be an improvement as there are a number of references to distance which only make sense if the &#039;english&#039; mile is increased substantially.  The &#039;swedish&#039; mile is equal to 6 &#039;english&#039; miles which is too big. {{unsigned|Nuadamor}}&amp;lt;small&amp;gt; (00:01, 22 May 2011).&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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:If I remember correctly he used a fictional mile, the Númenorean mile. I don&#039;t remember how big that is (but I think it was, the Númenorean feet at least was), but I think it can be found at [[Unfinished Tales]]. --[[User:Amroth|Amroth]] 14:29, 24 May 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::At Oxonmoot some years ago [[Alex Lewis]] actually gave a talk saying he thought that the scale of the maps was incorrect (sadly, I can&#039;t remember by how much, or indeed, in which direction). The Númenóreans had the &#039;&#039;[[lár]]&#039;&#039; which was very slightly shorter than our league (three miles); there is no indication that Tolkien intended to use anything other than the English statute mile (defined in law since 1592) in the maps. &lt;br /&gt;
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::(I should point out, there is the &amp;quot;Old English mile&amp;quot; which was variously longer than the statute mile - about 1.3 statute miles - but why would Tolkien logically use a different measure?) --{{User:Mith/sig}} 10:55, 25 May 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Tolkien’s discussion of the [[Lár|Númenórean league]] refered to by Amroth can be found in the appendix ‘Númenórean linear measures’ in {{UT|Gladden}} - it is 5000 [[ranga]]r of about 38 (imperial) inches, and therefor nearly equal to one statute league of 5280 yards (= three statute miles). It seems this can be taken as evidence that, certainly around the time of the revision of [[The Lord of the Rings]], Tolkien was regarding distances in his [[legendarium]] as described (approximately) in statute leagues and miles.&lt;br /&gt;
:::However, in {{HM|RC}}, (on pp. 22-23 in the 2005 hardbound edition), Tolkien’s notes on two attempts at devising a Hobbit system of linear measures can be found. In one of these attempts he arrives as longest measure at a ‘long mile, or gait mile’, or ‘yong-mile or longmile’ of 2,304 imperial yards. That is certainly very nearly equal to 1.3 statute miles, and so these attempts may be related to the ‘Old English mile’ mentioned by Mith. (There is also a ‘(short) mile, or pace-mile’ of half this length, 1,152 imperial yards.)&lt;br /&gt;
:::But in the other attempt he arrives at a different type of mile, namely one of 1,600 imperial yards, thus being somewhat shorter than the statute mile. And it is only in this attempt that the term ‘league’ is mentioned as containing 3 of these miles. That is in my opinion an obstacle to any supposition that a ‘long’ or ‘Old English’ mile could have been intended in the text of The Lord of the Rings. In fact, all linear measures used in that work are such as were in normal use in the imperial system when Tolkien grew up: inch, foot, ell, fathom, furlong, mile and league; and of these only foot, mile and league turn up in his attempts at a Hobbit system of measures.&lt;br /&gt;
:::And finally, I have never found any reason to consider Tolkien’s Middle-earth as mapped too small. I would be interested in knowing why [[Alex Lewis]] thinks so (or at least thought so a couple of years ago). In fact had Mith said so a week earlier, I would have asked Alex, since I had ample opportunity to discuss it with him over the last weekend. — [[User:Mithrennaith|Mithrennaith]] 04:39, 27 May 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::I would have been unable to posts that had not yet been made! --{{User:Mith/sig}} 17:38, 27 May 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Well, of course! I was trying to imply that I wished Nuadamor had posed his question earlier, and you had then replied as promptly as you in fact did, but I got a bit convoluted and cut too much from my sentence. — [[User:Mithrennaith|Mithrennaith]] 04:17, 28 May 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== TG is a thoroughly enjoyable read! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hyarion, just wanted to say that this is an excellent Tolkien site and it has been a pleasure to read some of the articles I have come across so far. I can see that a great deal of time and effort has gone into making the site what it is today, a professional-looking, informative and well-built engine of encyclopaedic Tolkien knowledge. I have even been inspired for my own wiki (not Tolkien related) by the way articles and templates have been put together. The skin is amazing too; wish I had something unique instead of the plain vector skin.&lt;br /&gt;
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Do keep up the good work. [[User:Kerchi|Kerchi]] 10:13, 30 May 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hi Kerchi, thanks so much for your compliments! It&#039;s in feedback like yours which makes it all worth it. We look forward to seeing you around. If you have any questions or suggestions feel free to let me know. --[[User:Hyarion|Hyarion]] 22:02, 30 May 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::You&#039;re welcome. I can see that quality has been an important driving force for those who have put this site together and believe me I know how difficult it can be what with running my own wiki, so I intend to keep having a look around and read a few more articles. --[[User:Kerchi|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#183a55&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Kerchi&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Kerchi|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#aaaaaa&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;talk&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;amp;nbsp;|&amp;amp;nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Kerchi|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#aaaaaa&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;contribs&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;amp;nbsp;|&amp;amp;nbsp;[[Special:Editcount/Kerchi/Edits|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#aaaaaa&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;edits&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 22:54, 30 May 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Dictionary-style searches ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Being able to search for the English translation of a specific Elvish word (or in any other invented language) would be very useful! Would it be difficult to implement something like this? &lt;br /&gt;
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To exemplify: let&#039;s say I wanted to know if Tolkien invented some word for &amp;quot;alphabet&amp;quot;. I just type &amp;quot;alphabet&amp;quot; in a search box, which would take me to a &amp;quot;disambig&amp;quot; article suggesting me to read either an article on Noldorin &#039;&#039;tiwdi&#039;&#039; or on Quenya &#039;&#039;tengwanda&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Perhaps we can implement this in the current &amp;quot;disambiguation&amp;quot; system (but we would get a huge amount of disambig articles, though!)?&lt;br /&gt;
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:Sounds like a good idea. Maybe it should get an own namespace, so there won&#039;t be too much disambigs. --[[User:Amroth|Amroth]] 11:48, 13 June 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Maybe something to discuss in a meeting?--[[User:Morgan|Morgan]] 12:20, 13 June 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::This could be a nice basis for a Portal:Languages, don&#039;t you think? &lt;br /&gt;
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::I&#039;m also thinking that if we add an alphabetically-based category to all invented words, we would have both an English-Elvish(et al) and an Elvish(et al)-English list of words. Another solution could perhaps be to have a certain namespace, like &amp;quot;Dictionary Index:A&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Dictionary Index:B&amp;quot;, etc, as a complement to the current Index namespace.--[[User:Morgan|Morgan]] 12:31, 13 June 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Noting old discussion: [[Forum:Elvish-English and English-Elvish entries]] --[[User:Morgan|Morgan]] 21:58, 20 June 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Start article name with lower-case letters? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Would it be possible to do a tech tweak in order to create article names with lower-case letters? IMHO, this would be great for the linguistic articles on words - a standard which also Wiktionary uses. --[[User:Morgan|Morgan]] 09:59, 3 July 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:All articles have to begin with a capital letter (that&#039;s a technical limitation which can&#039;t be changed). You can use DISPLAYTITLE in order to make it appear as if they begin with a lower-case letter, however (see this working in [[TG:Sandbox]] right now). --{{User:Mith/sig}} 10:13, 3 July 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Thanks, I&#039;ll bring it up at the meeting, to see if it&#039;s a good idea or not.--[[User:Morgan|Morgan]] 11:09, 3 July 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I tried the code DISPLAYTITLE in the article [[brand (word)]], and I noticed that you can also remove the bracketed word - is this preferable or not? --[[User:Morgan|Morgan]] 22:51, 3 July 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Long articles ==&lt;br /&gt;
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What is causing the problem with the &amp;quot;long&amp;quot; articles? It&#039;s impossible for me to save an edit on &amp;quot;Eriador&amp;quot;. However, another long article, &amp;quot;J.R.R. Tolkien&amp;quot;, causes no problems.--[[User:Morgan|Morgan]] 09:49, 18 July 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Adding to List of Arda Encyclopedia ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi Hyarion. I&#039;m one of the  [http://wiki.valimar.ir Valimar] administrators. The Biggest Persian Encyclopedia about Arda and Tolkien. I want you to add us in the list of Arda Encyclopedia.(in this [http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/List_of_Tolkien_Encyclopedias page]).&lt;br /&gt;
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I have to say we are your sister site.&lt;br /&gt;
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Best Regards.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Welcome! No problem, your encyclopedia has been added to the list. --[[User:Hyarion|Hyarion]] 01:26, 20 July 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Tolkien Gateway email addresses ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi Hyarion! You promised to look into the prospect of Tolkien Gateway email addresses; has there been any progress? --{{User:KingAragorn/sig}} 15:18, 26 September 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hey KA! Yes, I think Google Apps (Free) is going to be our best option. It&#039;s halfway setup and the plan is to have it fully functional by the upcoming meeting. --[[User:Hyarion|Hyarion]]&lt;br /&gt;
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::Awesome! I look forward to it! :) --{{User:KingAragorn/sig}} 14:31, 27 September 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Is it done yet? --{{User:KingAragorn/sig}} 12:42, 8 October 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Was I ignored? :( --{{User:KingAragorn/sig}} 22:31, 10 October 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==TS permission==&lt;br /&gt;
Hi! I noticed that the Amon Hen articles carry the sentence &amp;quot;Reprinted by kind permission of The Tolkien Society and the named cover artist(s) - all rights reserved.&amp;quot; What exactly does this refer to? I&#039;m pretty sure that cover images and a description of the contents goes under fair use for educational purposes in any country...? Can this &amp;quot;permission&amp;quot; be removed, or moved to a copyright page (as it looks kind of strange in the context of the individual articles)? --[[User:Morgan|Morgan]] 18:30, 10 October 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I believe the wording came from [[Andrew Butler]] who went to great lengths to make sure even the individual artists were okay with having their cover art displayed on the wiki. I&#039;d agree though that the content most likely falls under fair use and a more minor notation would be suitable. I think some statement is worth having if only to illustrate the extra steps taken to consider the copyright holders. -- [[User:Hyarion|Hyarion]]&lt;br /&gt;
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::Alright. I&#039;ll try to remember to bring the issue up at a meeting. Thanks for quick answer! --[[User:Morgan|Morgan]] 18:46, 10 October 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Numenor ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Isn&#039;t [http://www.tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Athelas&amp;amp;oldid=186732 this] strange? This old version yields a redlink to &amp;quot;Númenor&amp;quot;. --[[User:Morgan|Morgan]] 16:32, 22 February 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: And [http://www.tolkiengateway.net/wiki/N%C3%BAmen%CE%BFr this] is even more strange, while the [[Númenor|real article]] still exists. --[[User:Amroth|Amroth]] 20:17, 22 February 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Hm, definitely must be the way the symbol is translated and encoded. I&#039;ll do some research. Good catch! --[[User:Hyarion|Hyarion]] 02:53, 23 February 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Editing Rise of the Witch King Game Campaign Details ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I want to edit campaign details for the ROTWK game.There is a mistake in the last sentence.It is Prince Earnur who destroyed the Witch King not King Arveleg I.Can i have the permission to change the name of the King?? --[[User:Antoinevlah|Antoinevlah]] 17:24, 4 March 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:If this is true, then please go ahead and edit the page.--{{User:KingAragorn/sig}} 17:37, 4 March 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==On Battle of the Crossings of Poros==&lt;br /&gt;
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I contacted you on this subject because you created the page and I was not able to create a discussion on it. This page is a complete copy from the page at http://www.glyphweb.com/arda/f/fordsofporos.html--[[Special:Contributions/108.11.228.65|108.11.228.65]] 15:08, 28 April 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:We know about the copies, we&#039;re working on correcting them. If you find any other, just let us know. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 16:31, 28 April 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thanks for catching that [[Special:Contributions/108.11.228.65|108.11.228.65]]. There are still a few articles out there which do not adhere to our current standards. We will rectify this specific article as soon as possible, and as Ederchil mentioned, if you happen to stumble upon any others just let someone know. Thanks for your help! --[[User:Hyarion|Hyarion]] 16:40, 28 April 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Need Sumner Contact re: Bernie Zuber item ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Sumner,&lt;br /&gt;
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This is my second attempt to contact you through this website. And I&#039;m not sure you are Hyarion -- but whoever is will know how to get this message to you.&lt;br /&gt;
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I am Teny&#039;s friend Anita Farley who auctioned Bernie Zuber&#039;s collection after his death. My email address has changed, and I have lost yours in the process. &lt;br /&gt;
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My new private email is: pippygpupp (at) charter (dot) net.&lt;br /&gt;
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Please contact me. It is regarding a very rare item I still have from Bernie&#039;s collection.&lt;br /&gt;
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Thank you,&lt;br /&gt;
Anita&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hi Anita, I apologize as I&#039;m afraid I will be of no help, I&#039;m not sure who Sumner is. Sorry! --[[User:Hyarion|Hyarion]] 02:56, 11 August 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Jeremy Bennett Helms Deep Art Misattributed ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hyarion,&lt;br /&gt;
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You submitted artwork which is attributed to the wrong artist.  The Jeremy Bennett Helm&#039;s Deep file is actually artwork by Paul Lasaine.  See the links below:&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://lasaineportfolio.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2007-11-13T21:57:00-08:00&amp;amp;max-results=7&amp;amp;start=21&amp;amp;by-date=false Paul Lasaine Helm&#039;s Deep]&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://www.ebay.com/itm/LOTR-MASTER-WORKS-CONCEPT-ARTWORK-HELMS-DEEP-by-JEREMY-BENNETT-/250967454327 Jeremy Bennett Helm&#039;s Deep]&lt;br /&gt;
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Note that Bennett&#039;s image has an encampment in the foreground.&lt;br /&gt;
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== hey! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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thanks for dropping a line, i was also just curious if you wanted me to work on anything in particular? preferably work from video games or appendices, but anything else at all is good too. except for the history of middle earth (for now) as i don&#039;t have that yet! just let me know and i will start off o your &amp;quot;mission&amp;quot;! Thanks!&lt;br /&gt;
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== valimar ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi Hyarion, I&#039;m one of the Founders &amp;amp; Bureaucrats of [http://wiki.valimar.ir/index.php?title=%D8%B5%D9%81%D8%AD%D9%87%D9%94_%D8%A7%D8%B5%D9%84%DB%8C valimar] (and also one of [http://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%DA%A9%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%A8%D8%B1:PHoBiA the admins] in [http://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%B5%D9%81%D8%AD%D9%87%D9%94_%D8%A7%D8%B5%D9%84%DB%8C Persian Wikipedia]). I&#039;m glad that you setup us as your sister-site. I&#039;ll setup reciprocal links to TG articles as soon as possible. Best Regards -- [[User:PHoBiA|PHoBiA]] 19:41, 27 March 2011 (UTC) &lt;br /&gt;
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== Missing Gandalf edit in recent changes ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The database seems to have behaved strangely when I edited [[Gandalf]]. I removed the occurrences of the word &amp;quot;human&amp;quot; from the article, and couldn&#039;t load the page. However, looking in the article history, my edit is there, but it doesn&#039;t appear in &amp;quot;Recent changes&amp;quot;. And strangely enough, a search for &amp;quot;human&amp;quot; on TG still yields the article &amp;quot;Gandalf&amp;quot;, although the word &amp;quot;human&amp;quot; cannot be found (any longer) in the article. Maybe the issue will disappear once the database reloads or refreshes! :-)  --[[User:Morgan|Morgan]] 23:11, 24 April 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::While you&#039;re at it, another strange page is the [[Portal:Locations/Category tree]]. This page, which has been changed to a redirect, still seems to carry an imprint in the database somehow. E.g., searching on &amp;quot;human&amp;quot; on TG makes &amp;quot;Portal:Locations/Category Tree&amp;quot; show up. --[[User:Morgan|Morgan]] 23:28, 24 April 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== what is a Tolkien Mile ? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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It seems to me that there is something wrong with using a standard (english) mile for Tolkiens Maps.  The result is a Middle Earth which is too small. Tolkien used a lot of History and Myth from other parts of Northern Europe. Could Tolkiens Mile actually be the &#039;Irish&#039; mile which was used by the English in Ireland for centuries. I will get more detail if needed but I think 1 &#039;irish&#039; mile is equal to 1.27 &#039;english&#039; miles. If this were the case Middle Earth would be 27% greater in size which would be an improvement as there are a number of references to distance which only make sense if the &#039;english&#039; mile is increased substantially.  The &#039;swedish&#039; mile is equal to 6 &#039;english&#039; miles which is too big. {{unsigned|Nuadamor}}&amp;lt;small&amp;gt; (00:01, 22 May 2011).&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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:If I remember correctly he used a fictional mile, the Númenorean mile. I don&#039;t remember how big that is (but I think it was, the Númenorean feet at least was), but I think it can be found at [[Unfinished Tales]]. --[[User:Amroth|Amroth]] 14:29, 24 May 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::At Oxonmoot some years ago [[Alex Lewis]] actually gave a talk saying he thought that the scale of the maps was incorrect (sadly, I can&#039;t remember by how much, or indeed, in which direction). The Númenóreans had the &#039;&#039;[[lár]]&#039;&#039; which was very slightly shorter than our league (three miles); there is no indication that Tolkien intended to use anything other than the English statute mile (defined in law since 1592) in the maps. &lt;br /&gt;
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::(I should point out, there is the &amp;quot;Old English mile&amp;quot; which was variously longer than the statute mile - about 1.3 statute miles - but why would Tolkien logically use a different measure?) --{{User:Mith/sig}} 10:55, 25 May 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Tolkien’s discussion of the [[Lár|Númenórean league]] refered to by Amroth can be found in the appendix ‘Númenórean linear measures’ in {{UT|Gladden}} - it is 5000 [[ranga]]r of about 38 (imperial) inches, and therefor nearly equal to one statute league of 5280 yards (= three statute miles). It seems this can be taken as evidence that, certainly around the time of the revision of [[The Lord of the Rings]], Tolkien was regarding distances in his [[legendarium]] as described (approximately) in statute leagues and miles.&lt;br /&gt;
:::However, in {{HM|RC}}, (on pp. 22-23 in the 2005 hardbound edition), Tolkien’s notes on two attempts at devising a Hobbit system of linear measures can be found. In one of these attempts he arrives as longest measure at a ‘long mile, or gait mile’, or ‘yong-mile or longmile’ of 2,304 imperial yards. That is certainly very nearly equal to 1.3 statute miles, and so these attempts may be related to the ‘Old English mile’ mentioned by Mith. (There is also a ‘(short) mile, or pace-mile’ of half this length, 1,152 imperial yards.)&lt;br /&gt;
:::But in the other attempt he arrives at a different type of mile, namely one of 1,600 imperial yards, thus being somewhat shorter than the statute mile. And it is only in this attempt that the term ‘league’ is mentioned as containing 3 of these miles. That is in my opinion an obstacle to any supposition that a ‘long’ or ‘Old English’ mile could have been intended in the text of The Lord of the Rings. In fact, all linear measures used in that work are such as were in normal use in the imperial system when Tolkien grew up: inch, foot, ell, fathom, furlong, mile and league; and of these only foot, mile and league turn up in his attempts at a Hobbit system of measures.&lt;br /&gt;
:::And finally, I have never found any reason to consider Tolkien’s Middle-earth as mapped too small. I would be interested in knowing why [[Alex Lewis]] thinks so (or at least thought so a couple of years ago). In fact had Mith said so a week earlier, I would have asked Alex, since I had ample opportunity to discuss it with him over the last weekend. — [[User:Mithrennaith|Mithrennaith]] 04:39, 27 May 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::I would have been unable to posts that had not yet been made! --{{User:Mith/sig}} 17:38, 27 May 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Well, of course! I was trying to imply that I wished Nuadamor had posed his question earlier, and you had then replied as promptly as you in fact did, but I got a bit convoluted and cut too much from my sentence. — [[User:Mithrennaith|Mithrennaith]] 04:17, 28 May 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== TG is a thoroughly enjoyable read! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hyarion, just wanted to say that this is an excellent Tolkien site and it has been a pleasure to read some of the articles I have come across so far. I can see that a great deal of time and effort has gone into making the site what it is today, a professional-looking, informative and well-built engine of encyclopaedic Tolkien knowledge. I have even been inspired for my own wiki (not Tolkien related) by the way articles and templates have been put together. The skin is amazing too; wish I had something unique instead of the plain vector skin.&lt;br /&gt;
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Do keep up the good work. [[User:Kerchi|Kerchi]] 10:13, 30 May 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hi Kerchi, thanks so much for your compliments! It&#039;s in feedback like yours which makes it all worth it. We look forward to seeing you around. If you have any questions or suggestions feel free to let me know. --[[User:Hyarion|Hyarion]] 22:02, 30 May 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::You&#039;re welcome. I can see that quality has been an important driving force for those who have put this site together and believe me I know how difficult it can be what with running my own wiki, so I intend to keep having a look around and read a few more articles. --[[User:Kerchi|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#183a55&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Kerchi&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Kerchi|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#aaaaaa&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;talk&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;amp;nbsp;|&amp;amp;nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Kerchi|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#aaaaaa&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;contribs&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;amp;nbsp;|&amp;amp;nbsp;[[Special:Editcount/Kerchi/Edits|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#aaaaaa&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;edits&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 22:54, 30 May 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Dictionary-style searches ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Being able to search for the English translation of a specific Elvish word (or in any other invented language) would be very useful! Would it be difficult to implement something like this? &lt;br /&gt;
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To exemplify: let&#039;s say I wanted to know if Tolkien invented some word for &amp;quot;alphabet&amp;quot;. I just type &amp;quot;alphabet&amp;quot; in a search box, which would take me to a &amp;quot;disambig&amp;quot; article suggesting me to read either an article on Noldorin &#039;&#039;tiwdi&#039;&#039; or on Quenya &#039;&#039;tengwanda&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Perhaps we can implement this in the current &amp;quot;disambiguation&amp;quot; system (but we would get a huge amount of disambig articles, though!)?&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Morgan|Morgan]] 11:40, 13 June 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Sounds like a good idea. Maybe it should get an own namespace, so there won&#039;t be too much disambigs. --[[User:Amroth|Amroth]] 11:48, 13 June 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Maybe something to discuss in a meeting?--[[User:Morgan|Morgan]] 12:20, 13 June 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::This could be a nice basis for a Portal:Languages, don&#039;t you think? &lt;br /&gt;
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::I&#039;m also thinking that if we add an alphabetically-based category to all invented words, we would have both an English-Elvish(et al) and an Elvish(et al)-English list of words. Another solution could perhaps be to have a certain namespace, like &amp;quot;Dictionary Index:A&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Dictionary Index:B&amp;quot;, etc, as a complement to the current Index namespace.--[[User:Morgan|Morgan]] 12:31, 13 June 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Noting old discussion: [[Forum:Elvish-English and English-Elvish entries]] --[[User:Morgan|Morgan]] 21:58, 20 June 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Start article name with lower-case letters? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Would it be possible to do a tech tweak in order to create article names with lower-case letters? IMHO, this would be great for the linguistic articles on words - a standard which also Wiktionary uses. --[[User:Morgan|Morgan]] 09:59, 3 July 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:All articles have to begin with a capital letter (that&#039;s a technical limitation which can&#039;t be changed). You can use DISPLAYTITLE in order to make it appear as if they begin with a lower-case letter, however (see this working in [[TG:Sandbox]] right now). --{{User:Mith/sig}} 10:13, 3 July 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Thanks, I&#039;ll bring it up at the meeting, to see if it&#039;s a good idea or not.--[[User:Morgan|Morgan]] 11:09, 3 July 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I tried the code DISPLAYTITLE in the article [[brand (word)]], and I noticed that you can also remove the bracketed word - is this preferable or not? --[[User:Morgan|Morgan]] 22:51, 3 July 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Long articles ==&lt;br /&gt;
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What is causing the problem with the &amp;quot;long&amp;quot; articles? It&#039;s impossible for me to save an edit on &amp;quot;Eriador&amp;quot;. However, another long article, &amp;quot;J.R.R. Tolkien&amp;quot;, causes no problems.--[[User:Morgan|Morgan]] 09:49, 18 July 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Adding to List of Arda Encyclopedia ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi Hyarion. I&#039;m one of the  [http://wiki.valimar.ir Valimar] administrators. The Biggest Persian Encyclopedia about Arda and Tolkien. I want you to add us in the list of Arda Encyclopedia.(in this [http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/List_of_Tolkien_Encyclopedias page]).&lt;br /&gt;
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I have to say we are your sister site.&lt;br /&gt;
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Best Regards.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Welcome! No problem, your encyclopedia has been added to the list. --[[User:Hyarion|Hyarion]] 01:26, 20 July 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Tolkien Gateway email addresses ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi Hyarion! You promised to look into the prospect of Tolkien Gateway email addresses; has there been any progress? --{{User:KingAragorn/sig}} 15:18, 26 September 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hey KA! Yes, I think Google Apps (Free) is going to be our best option. It&#039;s halfway setup and the plan is to have it fully functional by the upcoming meeting. --[[User:Hyarion|Hyarion]]&lt;br /&gt;
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::Awesome! I look forward to it! :) --{{User:KingAragorn/sig}} 14:31, 27 September 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Is it done yet? --{{User:KingAragorn/sig}} 12:42, 8 October 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Was I ignored? :( --{{User:KingAragorn/sig}} 22:31, 10 October 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==TS permission==&lt;br /&gt;
Hi! I noticed that the Amon Hen articles carry the sentence &amp;quot;Reprinted by kind permission of The Tolkien Society and the named cover artist(s) - all rights reserved.&amp;quot; What exactly does this refer to? I&#039;m pretty sure that cover images and a description of the contents goes under fair use for educational purposes in any country...? Can this &amp;quot;permission&amp;quot; be removed, or moved to a copyright page (as it looks kind of strange in the context of the individual articles)? --[[User:Morgan|Morgan]] 18:30, 10 October 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I believe the wording came from [[Andrew Butler]] who went to great lengths to make sure even the individual artists were okay with having their cover art displayed on the wiki. I&#039;d agree though that the content most likely falls under fair use and a more minor notation would be suitable. I think some statement is worth having if only to illustrate the extra steps taken to consider the copyright holders. -- [[User:Hyarion|Hyarion]]&lt;br /&gt;
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::Alright. I&#039;ll try to remember to bring the issue up at a meeting. Thanks for quick answer! --[[User:Morgan|Morgan]] 18:46, 10 October 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Numenor ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Isn&#039;t [http://www.tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Athelas&amp;amp;oldid=186732 this] strange? This old version yields a redlink to &amp;quot;Númenor&amp;quot;. --[[User:Morgan|Morgan]] 16:32, 22 February 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: And [http://www.tolkiengateway.net/wiki/N%C3%BAmen%CE%BFr this] is even more strange, while the [[Númenor|real article]] still exists. --[[User:Amroth|Amroth]] 20:17, 22 February 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Hm, definitely must be the way the symbol is translated and encoded. I&#039;ll do some research. Good catch! --[[User:Hyarion|Hyarion]] 02:53, 23 February 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Editing Rise of the Witch King Game Campaign Details ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I want to edit campaign details for the ROTWK game.There is a mistake in the last sentence.It is Prince Earnur who destroyed the Witch King not King Arveleg I.Can i have the permission to change the name of the King?? --[[User:Antoinevlah|Antoinevlah]] 17:24, 4 March 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:If this is true, then please go ahead and edit the page.--{{User:KingAragorn/sig}} 17:37, 4 March 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==On Battle of the Crossings of Poros==&lt;br /&gt;
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I contacted you on this subject because you created the page and I was not able to create a discussion on it. This page is a complete copy from the page at http://www.glyphweb.com/arda/f/fordsofporos.html--[[Special:Contributions/108.11.228.65|108.11.228.65]] 15:08, 28 April 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:We know about the copies, we&#039;re working on correcting them. If you find any other, just let us know. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 16:31, 28 April 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thanks for catching that [[Special:Contributions/108.11.228.65|108.11.228.65]]. There are still a few articles out there which do not adhere to our current standards. We will rectify this specific article as soon as possible, and as Ederchil mentioned, if you happen to stumble upon any others just let someone know. Thanks for your help! --[[User:Hyarion|Hyarion]] 16:40, 28 April 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Need Sumner Contact re: Bernie Zuber item ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Sumner,&lt;br /&gt;
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This is my second attempt to contact you through this website. And I&#039;m not sure you are Hyarion -- but whoever is will know how to get this message to you.&lt;br /&gt;
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I am Teny&#039;s friend Anita Farley who auctioned Bernie Zuber&#039;s collection after his death. My email address has changed, and I have lost yours in the process. &lt;br /&gt;
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My new private email is: pippygpupp (at) charter (dot) net.&lt;br /&gt;
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Please contact me. It is regarding a very rare item I still have from Bernie&#039;s collection.&lt;br /&gt;
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Thank you,&lt;br /&gt;
Anita&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hi Anita, I apologize as I&#039;m afraid I will be of no help, I&#039;m not sure who Sumner is. Sorry! --[[User:Hyarion|Hyarion]] 02:56, 11 August 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Jeremy Bennett Helms Deep Art Misattributed ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hyarion,&lt;br /&gt;
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You submitted artwork which is attributed to the wrong artist.  The Jeremy Bennett Helm&#039;s Deep file is actually artwork by Paul Lasaine.  See the links below:&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://lasaineportfolio.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2007-11-13T21:57:00-08:00&amp;amp;max-results=7&amp;amp;start=21&amp;amp;by-date=false Paul Lasaine Helm&#039;s Deep]&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://www.ebay.com/itm/LOTR-MASTER-WORKS-CONCEPT-ARTWORK-HELMS-DEEP-by-JEREMY-BENNETT-/250967454327 Jeremy Bennett Helm&#039;s Deep]&lt;br /&gt;
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Note that Bennett&#039;s image has an encampment in the foreground.&lt;br /&gt;
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Thought you should know so you can make the appropriate edits.&lt;br /&gt;
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Sincerely,&lt;br /&gt;
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== hey! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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thanks for dropping a line, i was also just curious if you wanted me to work on anything in particular? preferably work from video games or appendices, but anything else at all is good too. except for the history of middle earth (for now) as i don&#039;t have that yet! just let me know and i will start off o your &amp;quot;mission&amp;quot;! Thanks!&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor</title>
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&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; is an upcoming PlayStation 4 video game slated for a 2014 release. The story will take place between &#039;&#039;[[The Hobbit]]&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;[[The Lord of the Rings]]&#039;&#039;, acting as a bridge between the two eras, though it is uncertain if the game will follow the film or book canon. The protagonist&#039;s name is Talion, a [[Gondorian]] [[Ranger]] stationed at the [[Black Gate]]. Talion&#039;s family is slain the night the Dark Lord [[Sauron]] and his [[Uruk-Hai]] forces return to reclaim [[Mordor]], setting the Ranger on a quest for revenge after he is possessed and sustained from death by a mysterious [[Wraith]].&lt;br /&gt;
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| [[Talion]] || [[Troy Baker]]&lt;br /&gt;
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| Wraith || [[Alister Duncan]]&lt;br /&gt;
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| [[Black Hand]] || [[Nolan North]]&lt;br /&gt;
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| Ioreth || [[Laura Bailey]]&lt;br /&gt;
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| [[Gollum]] || [[Liam O&#039;Brien]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== External links ==&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;[http://www.shadowofmordor.com/agegate/ Official website]&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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