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Talk:Valacirca

2023-07-15T21:28:30Z

Colonelviied:

== "It is unclear whether the Dwarvish constellation Durin's Crown, seen in the reflection of Mirrormere,[7] is the Valacirca." ==

Why is it unclear? In the Lord of the Rings index it says:

''Durin I, ‘the Deathless’ 315–17, 547, 1071, 1074, 1079;''

''emblem of [seven stars above a crown and anvil, had eight rays, '''represented the Plough''']'' [[User:Colonelviied|Colonelviied]] ([[User talk:Colonelviied|talk]]) 21:20, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

This entry also states ''Valacirca is identified as the Big Dipper''. Since Plough and Big Dipper are the same constellation, Durin's Crown and Valacrirca are also the same constellation.

Talk:Valacirca

2023-07-15T21:26:20Z

Colonelviied:

== "It is unclear whether the Dwarvish constellation Durin's Crown, seen in the reflection of Mirrormere,[7] is the Valacirca." ==

Why is it unclear? In the Lord of the Rings index it says:

''Durin I, ‘the Deathless’ 315–17, 547, 1071, 1074, 1079;''

''emblem of [seven stars above a crown and anvil, had eight rays, '''represented the Plough''']'' [[User:Colonelviied|Colonelviied]] ([[User talk:Colonelviied|talk]]) 21:20, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

And it also says:

''Plough, the see Sickle, the''

Since this entry also states ''Valacirca is identified as the Big Dipper'' it should the same constellation.

Talk:Valacirca

2023-07-15T21:26:05Z

Colonelviied: /* "It is unclear whether the Dwarvish constellation Durin's Crown, seen in the reflection of Mirrormere,[7] is the Valacirca." */

== "It is unclear whether the Dwarvish constellation Durin's Crown, seen in the reflection of Mirrormere,[7] is the Valacirca." ==

Why is it unclear? In the Lord of the Rings index it says:

''Durin I, ‘the Deathless’ 315–17, 547, 1071, 1074, 1079;''

''emblem of [seven stars above a crown and anvil, had eight rays, '''represented the Plough''']'' [[User:Colonelviied|Colonelviied]] ([[User talk:Colonelviied|talk]]) 21:20, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

And it also says:

''Plough, the see Sickle, the''

Since this entry also states: ''Valacirca is identified as the Big Dipper'' it should the same constellation.

Talk:Valacirca

2023-07-15T21:24:06Z

Colonelviied: /* "It is unclear whether the Dwarvish constellation (is) Durin's Crown" */

== "It is unclear whether the Dwarvish constellation Durin's Crown, seen in the reflection of Mirrormere,[7] is the Valacirca." ==

Why is it unclear? In the Lord of the Rings index it says:

''Durin I, ‘the Deathless’ 315–17, 547, 1071, 1074, 1079;''

''emblem of [seven stars above a crown and anvil, had eight rays, '''represented the Plough''']'' [[User:Colonelviied|Colonelviied]] ([[User talk:Colonelviied|talk]]) 21:20, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

And under ''Plough'' it says: ''the see Sickle, the'', which is Valacirca.

Talk:Valacirca

2023-07-15T21:20:03Z

Colonelviied: /* "It is unclear whether the Dwarvish constellation (is) Durin's Crown" */ new section

== "It is unclear whether the Dwarvish constellation (is) Durin's Crown" ==

Why is it unclear? In the Lord of the Rings index it says:

''Durin I, ‘the Deathless’ 315–17, 547, 1071, 1074, 1079;''

''emblem of [seven stars above a crown and anvil, had eight rays, '''represented the Plough''']'' [[User:Colonelviied|Colonelviied]] ([[User talk:Colonelviied|talk]]) 21:20, 15 July 2023 (UTC)