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Talk:Andriel

2012-01-27T21:13:39Z

Jack "BtR" Saxon:

==Etymology==
I hope my <nowiki>{{fact}}</nowiki> inclusion and comments (seen whilst editing the page) help people understand why the information, as it stands, should be sourced or removed.--{{User:KingAragorn/sig}} 18:32, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

:Actually, my main point in this is: with Tolkien, we know the name means something (with very, very few exceptions). With adaptations of his work? We could make guesses to what Perphant, Belenthrond, Belarum, etc. mean, but we don't know if they were ever intended to mean anything - it can just as easily be coincidence. Andriel may (possibly) mean "long garlanded maiden", but "Long garland" makes no sense for a name. Unless there's a source that explicitly states the creators went for "meaningful" as opposed to "Elvish-y sounding", I think we shouldn't include an Etymology section on adaptations characters, unless they share a name with a canonical character. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 18:41, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
::As long as it mentions that the etymology is "possible", I see no reason why it should not stay. [[User:Jack "BtR" Saxon|Jack "BtR" Saxon]] 18:45, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
:::As KA mentioned in the note in the article, is "it is possible..." good enough for an encyclopedia? Personally, I don't think so. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 19:05, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

::::Strongly agree with Ederchil here.--[[User:Morgan|Morgan]] 19:30, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
:::::I believe that there are other "Possible etymology" sections on this encyclopaedia. [[User:Jack "BtR" Saxon|Jack "BtR" Saxon]] 21:13, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Andriel

2012-01-27T18:45:53Z

Jack "BtR" Saxon: /* Etymology */

Andriel

2012-01-27T18:23:43Z

Jack "BtR" Saxon: What's to be sourced? - and means "long", riel means "garlanded-maiden".

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'''Andriel''' is one of the three main characters of ''[[The Lord of the Rings: War in the North]]''. She is an [[Elves|Elven]] Lore-master from [[Rivendell]].<ref name="Backstory Andriel">{{webcite|author=|articleurl=http://www.warinthenorth.com/the-game/heroes/backstory#elfAnchor|articlename=Elven Character: Andriel's History|dated=|website=War in the North|accessed=25 December 2011}}</ref>

==History==
===Life as a Lore-master===
[[File:The Lord of the Rings- War in the North - Concept Art of Andriel1.png|250px|thumb|left|Concept Art of Andriel.]]Andriel was born in [[Rivendell]], and already in her youth she was skilled in healing and [[Magic]]. [[Elrond]] taught her more about magic and lore, while [[Elladan]] and [[Elrohir]] taught her about weapons and combat. While living in Rivendell she met [[Aragorn]] and [[Gandalf]]. After her training was complete she was sent many times to the wilderness of [[Eriador]] and [[Rhovanion]] by Elrond, to gather information about the world. Therefore, she has wandered much through the regions surrounding Rivendell. During these wanderings she has made contact with the [[Rangers of the North]], including [[Halbarad]] and [[Eradan (video game character)|Eradan]].<ref name="Backstory Andriel"/>

In September {{TA|3018}} she [[Wandering Companies|accompenied]] [[Gildor Inglorion]] to the [[Emyn Beraid]], to look in the [[Elostirion-stone|Palantír]], and visit their kin in [[Lindon]]. Near [[Bree]], Andriel got a premonition that something would happen in the south. She left the company and travelled through the [[Andrath]] to [[Sarn Ford]]. There she did speak with Halbarad, who did have the same feelings and had ordered his men to make barricades.<ref>{{webcite|author=|articleurl=http://www.warinthenorth.com/the-game/heroes/road-to-war/|articlename=Road to War|dated=|website=War in the North|accessed=25 December 2011}}</ref>

[[File:2011-12-23 00058.jpg|300px|thumb|'''Andriel''', [[Eradan (video game character)|Eradan]] and [[Farin (video game character)|Farin]] overhear the conservation of the [[Witch-king]] and [[Agandaûr]].]]

===War of the Ring===
When the [[Nazgûl]] attacked the guard that morning Andriel assisted the Rangers, together with Eradan and [[Farin (video game character)|Farin]]. They were defeated and many of the rangers were killed. Shortly after the attack the [[Witch-king]] meets with [[Agandaûr]]. Where the latter tells he had summoned the [[Orcs of the Misty Mountains]] and has assembled an army in [[Fornost]]. The Witch-king sends him back to Fornost, to attack immediatly.<ref name="Prologue">[[The Lord of the Rings: War in the North]], ''Prologue''</ref>

Halbarad sent her, together with Eradan and Farin, to [[Bree]], where they have to warn Aragorn. The three companions meet him in the [[Prancing Pony]]. After they told him about the conservation, he sends them immediatly to Fornost to stop Agandaûr before he attacks.<ref name="Prologue"/>

The three travelled to [[Fornost Erain]], where they fought their way to the citadel, where Agandaûr was, with the help of [[Elladan]] and [[Elrohir]]. However, before they could strike down Agandaûr, he escaped on the back of a [[fell beast]]. Though Beleram, the [[Great Eagles|Great Eagle]] they had rescued from Agandaûr's orcs, tried to stop him, the [[Black Númenóreans|Black Númenórean]] conjured a storm and escaped to [[Carn Dûm]].

==Skills==
{{expansion}}
Her main weapon is a staff, which she uses for both melee- and ranged combat. One of her abilities makes it possible to create a magical shield that protects her and the other members of her fellowship.<ref name="Gamespot Asia">[http://asia.gamespot.com/?tag=header%3Blogo Gamespot Asia], [http://asia.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/the-lord-of-the-rings-war-in-the-north/news.html?sid=6296919&mode=previews The Lord of the Rings: War in the North Q&A], dated [[31 January]], [[2011]] (accessed at [[24 July]], [[2011]])</ref> She is also able to use a blade.
==Etymology==
It is possible that Andriel is a [[Sindarin]] name. The "and" prefix means "long", while [[riel]] (as in "[[Galadriel]]") means "garlanded-maiden". As such, Andriel's name could be translated to mean "long-garlanded maiden".

==See Also==
*[[:Category:Images of Andriel|Images of Andriel]]
*[[Eradan (video game character)|Eradan]]
*[[Farin (video game character)|Farin]]
*[[The Lord of the Rings: War in the North]]

{{references}}

[[Category:Noncanon Elves]] [[Category:The Lord of the Rings: War in the North Characters]]

Andriel

2012-01-27T17:12:38Z

Jack "BtR" Saxon: Etymology is not useless.

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'''Andriel''' is one of the three main characters of ''[[The Lord of the Rings: War in the North]]''. She is an [[Elves|Elven]] Lore-master from [[Rivendell]].<ref name="Backstory Andriel">{{webcite|author=|articleurl=http://www.warinthenorth.com/the-game/heroes/backstory#elfAnchor|articlename=Elven Character: Andriel's History|dated=|website=War in the North|accessed=25 December 2011}}</ref>

==History==
===Life as a Lore-master===
[[File:The Lord of the Rings- War in the North - Concept Art of Andriel1.png|250px|thumb|left|Concept Art of Andriel.]]Andriel was born in [[Rivendell]], and already in her youth she was skilled in healing and [[Magic]]. [[Elrond]] taught her more about magic and lore, while [[Elladan]] and [[Elrohir]] taught her about weapons and combat. While living in Rivendell she met [[Aragorn]] and [[Gandalf]]. After her training was complete she was sent many times to the wilderness of [[Eriador]] and [[Rhovanion]] by Elrond, to gather information about the world. Therefore, she has wandered much through the regions surrounding Rivendell. During these wanderings she has made contact with the [[Rangers of the North]], including [[Halbarad]] and [[Eradan (video game character)|Eradan]].<ref name="Backstory Andriel"/>

In September {{TA|3018}} she [[Wandering Companies|accompenied]] [[Gildor Inglorion]] to the [[Emyn Beraid]], to look in the [[Elostirion-stone|Palantír]], and visit their kin in [[Lindon]]. Near [[Bree]], Andriel got a premonition that something would happen in the south. She left the company and travelled through the [[Andrath]] to [[Sarn Ford]]. There she did speak with Halbarad, who did have the same feelings and had ordered his men to make barricades.<ref>{{webcite|author=|articleurl=http://www.warinthenorth.com/the-game/heroes/road-to-war/|articlename=Road to War|dated=|website=War in the North|accessed=25 December 2011}}</ref>

[[File:2011-12-23 00058.jpg|300px|thumb|'''Andriel''', [[Eradan (video game character)|Eradan]] and [[Farin (video game character)|Farin]] overhear the conservation of the [[Witch-king]] and [[Agandaûr]].]]

===War of the Ring===
When the [[Nazgûl]] attacked the guard that morning Andriel assisted the Rangers, together with Eradan and [[Farin (video game character)|Farin]]. They were defeated and many of the rangers were killed. Shortly after the attack the [[Witch-king]] meets with [[Agandaûr]]. Where the latter tells he had summoned the [[Orcs of the Misty Mountains]] and has assembled an army in [[Fornost]]. The Witch-king sends him back to Fornost, to attack immediatly.<ref name="Prologue">[[The Lord of the Rings: War in the North]], ''Prologue''</ref>

Halbarad sent her, together with Eradan and Farin, to [[Bree]], where they have to warn Aragorn. The three companions meet him in the [[Prancing Pony]]. After they told him about the conservation, he sends them immediatly to Fornost to stop Agandaûr before he attacks.<ref name="Prologue"/>

The three travelled to [[Fornost Erain]], where they fought their way to the citadel, where Agandaûr was, with the help of [[Elladan]] and [[Elrohir]]. However, before they could strike down Agandaûr, he escaped on the back of a [[fell beast]]. Though Beleram, the [[Great Eagles|Great Eagle]] they had rescued from Agandaûr's orcs, tried to stop him, the [[Black Númenóreans|Black Númenórean]] conjured a storm and escaped to [[Carn Dûm]].

==Skills==
{{expansion}}
Her main weapon is a staff, which she uses for both melee- and ranged combat. One of her abilities makes it possible to create a magical shield that protects her and the other members of her fellowship.<ref name="Gamespot Asia">[http://asia.gamespot.com/?tag=header%3Blogo Gamespot Asia], [http://asia.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/the-lord-of-the-rings-war-in-the-north/news.html?sid=6296919&mode=previews The Lord of the Rings: War in the North Q&A], dated [[31 January]], [[2011]] (accessed at [[24 July]], [[2011]])</ref> She is also able to use a blade.
==Etymology==
The "and" prefix is [[Sindarin]], meaning "long", while [[riel]] (as in "[[Galadriel]]") means "garlanded-maiden". As such, Andriel's name could be translated to mean "long-garlanded maiden".

==See Also==
*[[:Category:Images of Andriel|Images of Andriel]]
*[[Eradan (video game character)|Eradan]]
*[[Farin (video game character)|Farin]]
*[[The Lord of the Rings: War in the North]]

{{references}}

[[Category:Noncanon Elves]] [[Category:The Lord of the Rings: War in the North Characters]]

Andriel

2012-01-27T07:30:06Z

Jack "BtR" Saxon: Undo revision 184736 by Ederchil (talk)

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'''Andriel''' is one of the three main characters of ''[[The Lord of the Rings: War in the North]]''. She is an [[Elves|Elven]] Lore-master from [[Rivendell]].<ref name="Backstory Andriel">{{webcite|author=|articleurl=http://www.warinthenorth.com/the-game/heroes/backstory#elfAnchor|articlename=Elven Character: Andriel's History|dated=|website=War in the North|accessed=25 December 2011}}</ref>

==History==
===Life as a Lore-master===
[[File:The Lord of the Rings- War in the North - Concept Art of Andriel1.png|250px|thumb|left|Concept Art of Andriel.]]Andriel was born in [[Rivendell]], and already in her youth she was skilled in healing and [[Magic]]. [[Elrond]] taught her more about magic and lore, while [[Elladan]] and [[Elrohir]] taught her about weapons and combat. While living in Rivendell she met [[Aragorn]] and [[Gandalf]]. After her training was complete she was sent many times to the wilderness of [[Eriador]] and [[Rhovanion]] by Elrond, to gather information about the world. Therefore, she has wandered much through the regions surrounding Rivendell. During these wanderings she has made contact with the [[Rangers of the North]], including [[Halbarad]] and [[Eradan (video game character)|Eradan]].<ref name="Backstory Andriel"/>

In September {{TA|3018}} she [[Wandering Companies|accompenied]] [[Gildor Inglorion]] to the [[Emyn Beraid]], to look in the [[Elostirion-stone|Palantír]], and visit their kin in [[Lindon]]. Near [[Bree]], Andriel got a premonition that something would happen in the south. She left the company and travelled through the [[Andrath]] to [[Sarn Ford]]. There she did speak with Halbarad, who did have the same feelings and had ordered his men to make barricades.<ref>{{webcite|author=|articleurl=http://www.warinthenorth.com/the-game/heroes/road-to-war/|articlename=Road to War|dated=|website=War in the North|accessed=25 December 2011}}</ref>

[[File:2011-12-23 00058.jpg|300px|thumb|'''Andriel''', [[Eradan (video game character)|Eradan]] and [[Farin (video game character)|Farin]] overhear the conservation of the [[Witch-king]] and [[Agandaûr]].]]

===War of the Ring===
When the [[Nazgûl]] attacked the guard that morning Andriel assisted the Rangers, together with Eradan and [[Farin (video game character)|Farin]]. They were defeated and many of the rangers were killed. Shortly after the attack the [[Witch-king]] meets with [[Agandaûr]]. Where the latter tells he had summoned the [[Orcs of the Misty Mountains]] and has assembled an army in [[Fornost]]. The Witch-king sends him back to Fornost, to attack immediatly.<ref name="Prologue">[[The Lord of the Rings: War in the North]], ''Prologue''</ref>

Halbarad sent her, together with Eradan and Farin, to [[Bree]], where they have to warn Aragorn. The three companions meet him in the [[Prancing Pony]]. After they told him about the conservation, he sends them immediatly to Fornost to stop Agandaûr before he attacks.<ref name="Prologue"/>

The three travelled to [[Fornost Erain]], where they fought their way to the citadel, where Agandaûr was, with the help of [[Elladan]] and [[Elrohir]]. However, before they could strike down Agandaûr, he escaped on the back of a [[fell beast]]. Though Beleram, the [[Great Eagles|Great Eagle]] they had rescued from Agandaûr's orcs, tried to stop him, the [[Black Númenóreans|Black Númenórean]] conjured a storm and escaped to [[Carn Dûm]].

==Skills==
{{expansion}}
Her main weapon is a staff, which she uses for both melee- and ranged combat. One of her abilities makes it possible to create a magical shield that protects her and the other members of her fellowship.<ref name="Gamespot Asia">[http://asia.gamespot.com/?tag=header%3Blogo Gamespot Asia], [http://asia.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/the-lord-of-the-rings-war-in-the-north/news.html?sid=6296919&mode=previews The Lord of the Rings: War in the North Q&A], dated [[31 January]], [[2011]] (accessed at [[24 July]], [[2011]])</ref> She is also able to use a blade.
==Etymology==
The "and" prefix is [[Sindarin]], meaning "long", while [[riel]] (as in "[[Galadriel]]") means "garlanded-maiden". As such, Andriel's name could be translated to mean "long-garlanded maiden".

==See Also==
*[[:Category:Images of Andriel|Images of Andriel]]
*[[Eradan (video game character)|Eradan]]
*[[Farin (video game character)|Farin]]
*[[The Lord of the Rings: War in the North]]

{{references}}

[[Category:Noncanon Elves]] [[Category:The Lord of the Rings: War in the North Characters]]

Andriel

2011-12-25T21:17:16Z

Jack "BtR" Saxon: /* Etymology= */

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}}'''Andriel''' is one of the three main characters of ''[[The Lord of the Rings: War in the North]]''. She is an [[Elves|Elven]] Lore-master from [[Rivendell]].<ref name="Backstory Andriel">{{webcite|author=|articleurl=http://www.warinthenorth.com/the-game/heroes/backstory#elfAnchor|articlename=Elven Character: Andriel's History|dated=|website=War in the North|accessed=25 December 2011}}</ref>

==History==
===Life as a Lore-master===
[[File:The Lord of the Rings- War in the North - Concept Art of Andriel1.png|250px|thumb|left|Concept Art of Andriel.]]Andriel was born in [[Rivendell]], and already in her youth she was skilled in healing and [[Magic]]. [[Elrond]] taught her more about magic and lore, while [[Elladan]] and [[Elrohir]] taught her about weapons and combat. While living in Rivendell she met [[Aragorn]] and [[Gandalf]]. After her training was complete she was sent many times to the wilderness of [[Eriador]] and [[Rhovanion]] by Elrond, to gather information about the world. Therefore, she has wandered much through the regions surrounding Rivendell. During these wanderings she has made contact with the [[Rangers of the North]], including [[Halbarad]] and [[Eradan (video game character)|Eradan]].<ref name="Backstory Andriel"/>

In September {{TA|3018}} she [[Wandering Companies|accompenied]] [[Gildor Inglorion]] to the [[Emyn Beraid]], to look in the [[Elostirion-stone|Palantír]], and visit their kin in [[Lindon]]. Near [[Bree]], Andriel got a premonition that something would happen in the south. She left the company and travelled through the [[Andrath]] to [[Sarn Ford]]. There she did speak with Halbarad, who did have the same feelings and had ordered his men to make barricades.<ref>{{webcite|author=|articleurl=http://www.warinthenorth.com/the-game/heroes/road-to-war/|articlename=Road to War|dated=|website=War in the North|accessed=25 December 2011}}</ref>

[[File:2011-12-23 00058.jpg|300px|thumb|'''Andriel''', [[Eradan (video game character)|Eradan]] and [[Farin (video game character)|Farin]] overhear the conservation of the [[Witch-king]] and [[Agandaûr]].]]

===War of the Ring===
When the [[Nazgûl]] attacked the guard that morning Andriel assisted the Rangers, together with Eradan and [[Farin (video game character)|Farin]]. They were defeated and many of the rangers were killed. Shortly after the attack the [[Witch-king]] meets with [[Agandaûr]]. Where the latter tells he had summoned the [[Orcs of the Misty Mountains]] and has assembled an army in [[Fornost]]. The Witch-king sends him back to Fornost, to attack immediatly.<ref name="Prologue">[[The Lord of the Rings: War in the North]], ''Prologue''</ref>

Halbarad sent her, together with Eradan and Farin, to [[Bree]], where they have to warn Aragorn. The three companions meet him in the [[Prancing Pony]]. After they told him about the conservation, he sends them immediatly to Fornost to stop Agandaûr before he attacks.<ref name="Prologue"/>

==Skills==
Her main weapon is a staff, which she uses for both melee- and ranged combat. One of her abilities makes it possible to create a magical shield that protects her and the other members of her fellowship.<ref name="Gamespot Asia">[http://asia.gamespot.com/?tag=header%3Blogo Gamespot Asia], [http://asia.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/the-lord-of-the-rings-war-in-the-north/news.html?sid=6296919&mode=previews The Lord of the Rings: War in the North Q&A], dated [[31 January]], [[2011]] (accessed at [[24 July]], [[2011]])</ref> She is also able to use a blade.
=Etymology=
The "an" prefix is [[Sindarin]], meaning "long", while [[driel]] (as in "[[Galadriel]]") means "garlanded-maiden". As such, Andriel's name could be translated to mean "long-garlanded maiden".

==See Also==
*[[:Category:Images of Andriel|Images of Andriel]]
*[[Eradan (video game character)|Eradan]]
*[[Farin (video game character)|Farin]]
*[[The Lord of the Rings: War in the North]]

{{references}}

[[Category:Noncanon Elves]] [[Category:The Lord of the Rings: War in the North Characters]]

Andriel

2011-12-25T21:16:36Z

Jack "BtR" Saxon: /* Skills */

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}}'''Andriel''' is one of the three main characters of ''[[The Lord of the Rings: War in the North]]''. She is an [[Elves|Elven]] Lore-master from [[Rivendell]].<ref name="Backstory Andriel">{{webcite|author=|articleurl=http://www.warinthenorth.com/the-game/heroes/backstory#elfAnchor|articlename=Elven Character: Andriel's History|dated=|website=War in the North|accessed=25 December 2011}}</ref>

==History==
===Life as a Lore-master===
[[File:The Lord of the Rings- War in the North - Concept Art of Andriel1.png|250px|thumb|left|Concept Art of Andriel.]]Andriel was born in [[Rivendell]], and already in her youth she was skilled in healing and [[Magic]]. [[Elrond]] taught her more about magic and lore, while [[Elladan]] and [[Elrohir]] taught her about weapons and combat. While living in Rivendell she met [[Aragorn]] and [[Gandalf]]. After her training was complete she was sent many times to the wilderness of [[Eriador]] and [[Rhovanion]] by Elrond, to gather information about the world. Therefore, she has wandered much through the regions surrounding Rivendell. During these wanderings she has made contact with the [[Rangers of the North]], including [[Halbarad]] and [[Eradan (video game character)|Eradan]].<ref name="Backstory Andriel"/>

In September {{TA|3018}} she [[Wandering Companies|accompenied]] [[Gildor Inglorion]] to the [[Emyn Beraid]], to look in the [[Elostirion-stone|Palantír]], and visit their kin in [[Lindon]]. Near [[Bree]], Andriel got a premonition that something would happen in the south. She left the company and travelled through the [[Andrath]] to [[Sarn Ford]]. There she did speak with Halbarad, who did have the same feelings and had ordered his men to make barricades.<ref>{{webcite|author=|articleurl=http://www.warinthenorth.com/the-game/heroes/road-to-war/|articlename=Road to War|dated=|website=War in the North|accessed=25 December 2011}}</ref>

[[File:2011-12-23 00058.jpg|300px|thumb|'''Andriel''', [[Eradan (video game character)|Eradan]] and [[Farin (video game character)|Farin]] overhear the conservation of the [[Witch-king]] and [[Agandaûr]].]]

===War of the Ring===
When the [[Nazgûl]] attacked the guard that morning Andriel assisted the Rangers, together with Eradan and [[Farin (video game character)|Farin]]. They were defeated and many of the rangers were killed. Shortly after the attack the [[Witch-king]] meets with [[Agandaûr]]. Where the latter tells he had summoned the [[Orcs of the Misty Mountains]] and has assembled an army in [[Fornost]]. The Witch-king sends him back to Fornost, to attack immediatly.<ref name="Prologue">[[The Lord of the Rings: War in the North]], ''Prologue''</ref>

Halbarad sent her, together with Eradan and Farin, to [[Bree]], where they have to warn Aragorn. The three companions meet him in the [[Prancing Pony]]. After they told him about the conservation, he sends them immediatly to Fornost to stop Agandaûr before he attacks.<ref name="Prologue"/>

==Skills==
Her main weapon is a staff, which she uses for both melee- and ranged combat. One of her abilities makes it possible to create a magical shield that protects her and the other members of her fellowship.<ref name="Gamespot Asia">[http://asia.gamespot.com/?tag=header%3Blogo Gamespot Asia], [http://asia.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/the-lord-of-the-rings-war-in-the-north/news.html?sid=6296919&mode=previews The Lord of the Rings: War in the North Q&A], dated [[31 January]], [[2011]] (accessed at [[24 July]], [[2011]])</ref> She is also able to use a blade.
=Etymology==
The "an" prefix is [[Sindarin]], meaning "long", while [[driel]] (as in "[[Galadriel]]") means "garlanded-maiden". As such, Andriel's name could be translated to mean "long-garlanded maiden".

==See Also==
*[[:Category:Images of Andriel|Images of Andriel]]
*[[Eradan (video game character)|Eradan]]
*[[Farin (video game character)|Farin]]
*[[The Lord of the Rings: War in the North]]

{{references}}

[[Category:Noncanon Elves]] [[Category:The Lord of the Rings: War in the North Characters]]

Legolas/Disputes

2011-12-23T20:23:53Z

Jack "BtR" Saxon: /* Hair color */

'''[[Legolas]]''', despite being one of the most minor characters of the [[Fellowship of the Ring]], is nevertheless easily the most disputed on various issues.

==Age==
While Legolas' age is never given in Tolkien's writings, some [[Tolkienist|Tolkien scholars]] have estimated he is at the most 800 – 900 years old by the time of the War of the Ring, and at least 500, though probably more; however, many others disagree on the maximum figure. Without any direct mention to the contrary, he could also have been born as early as the First Age. At the very least, we know he is over 139 years old, because he is older than Gimli (see below).

The figure of 500 years minimum was derived from the following — at one point in ''The Two Towers'', he says that the leaves have fallen in Mirkwood 500 times since [[Meduseld]] was built, and he appears to be describing it as if he actually experienced this:
{{quote|Seven mounds upon the left, and nine upon the right," said Aragorn. "Many long lives of men it is since the [[Meduseld|golden hall]] was built."<p>"Five hundred times have the red leaves fallen in Mirkwood in my home since then," said Legolas, "and but a little while does that seem to us."</p>"But to the Riders of the Mark it seems so long ago," said Aragorn, "that the raising of this house is but a memory of song, and the years before are lost in the mist of time.|''[[The Two Towers]]'', "[[The White Rider]]"}}

To see their reasoning for an age of 800 – 900 years, see the articles referred to [[#external links|below]].

In ''Laws and Customs Among the Eldar'', Tolkien states that the mental development of Elf-children is much quicker than those of Mannish children. By their first year, Elf-children can already walk, speak, and even dance.
{{quote|The Eldar grew in bodily form slower than Men, but in mind more swiftly. They learned to speak before they were one year old; and in the same time they learned to walk and to dance, for their wills came soon to the mastery of their bodies. Nonetheless there was less difference between the two Kindreds, Elves and Men, in early youth; and a man who watched elf-children at play might well have believed that they were the children of Men, of some fair and happy people.|''[[Morgoth's Ring]]'', "[[Laws and Customs Among the Eldar]]"}}

If we are to infer that Elves can have concrete memories at a younger age than Men do, Legolas could conceivably have remembered the last 500 autumns that have passed, starting when he was very young.

However, he could be merely commenting on the contrasting viewpoints of Men and Elves on time ("and but a little while does that seem to us"); more importantly, 500 years is here clearly "the time elapsed since Meduseld was built". At face value, his statement says ''nothing'' about his age — to go further would only be speculation.

It is certainly possible that he was older than what many fans imagine him to be, at least (probably due to the influence of Bloom and his portrayal). In ''The Two Towers'', he calls Aragorn (born Third Age 2931, 87 years old in 3018, 88 at the end of the War some months later) and Gimli (born 2879, 139 years old in 3018) "children" while in [[Fangorn Forest]], and says that he does not ''feel'' young:
{{quote|It [the forest] is old, very old," said the Elf. "So old that almost I feel young '''again''', as I have not felt since I journeyed with you children. It is old and full of memory. I could have been happy here, if I had come in days of peace.|''[[The Two Towers]]'', "[[The White Rider]]"}}

Also, he speaks of watching oaks grow from acorns to "ruinous age", suggesting that he is in fact old, though possibly young for Elves (some kinds of oak can live for a very long time):
{{quote|These are the strangest trees that I ever saw," [Legolas] said; "and I have seen many an oak grow from acorn to ruinous age. I wish that there were leisure now to walk among them: they have voices, and in time I might come to understand their thought.|ibid}}

However, even the minimum figure of 500 can still apply here, since Tolkien could have had the English oak in mind, and it can live up to about 500 years.

Also, some readers point out that his birthdate is not recorded in the Appendices. For them, this might be a sign that he was born in the [[First Age]], since the Appendices only record dates from the [[Second Age]] onwards.

== Hair color ==
[[File:Anna Lee - Thranduil and Legolas.jpg|thumb|200px|Legolas with his father, by Anna Lee.]]
His father [[Thranduil]] was blonde, so many assume that Legolas must have been blonde also (Indeed, both [[Ralph Bakshi]] and [[Peter Jackson]] make him blonde). However, Tolkien describes his head as "dark" when he shoots down a [[Nazgûl|Ringwraith]]'s [[Fell beasts|Fell beast]] in ''The Fellowship of the Ring'' in the following quote, suggesting the contrary to some:
{{quote|Frodo looked up at the Elf standing tall above him, as he gazed into the night, seeking a mark to shoot at. His head was dark, crowned with sharp white stars that glittered in the black pools of the sky behind.|''[[The Fellowship of the Ring]]'', "[[The Great River]]"}}

According to this camp, his hair must be either dark brown or black, as was the norm for the Sindar. (Blond hair was mostly exclusive to the [[Vanyar]].) However, the "blond" camp points out that the above quote takes place ''at night'', and opines that his head may have appeared "dark" due to shadows, rather than his actual hair color.

== Birth order ==
Some assume that he is an only child; however, he could be only one of Thranduil's children. Thranduil did let him leave Mirkwood to find a new elf-community in Ithilien, suggesting to some that he was not his heir; but then others opine that given the longevity of Elves and the relative safety of Middle-earth after Sauron's downfall, Thranduil could go on ruling the Woodland Realm as long as he liked or until he felt the sea-longing. No definitive evidence is given, either way.

===Legolas of Gondolin===
The name ''Legolas Greenleaf'' first appeared in ''[[The Fall of Gondolin]]'', one of the ''[[The Book of Lost Tales Part Two]]'', circa 1917. The character is mentioned only once and is unrelated to the character discussed above. As the Lost Tales were the first embodiment of Tolkien's mythology, and by the time ''The Lord of the Rings'' was written much had changed, this in all likelihood is not the same Elf, and he was not included in the published ''[[The Silmarillion]]''.
{{quote|But the others, led by one '''Legolas Greenleaf''' of the [[House of the Tree|house of the Tree]], who knew all that plain by day or by dark, and was night-sighted, made much speed over the vale for all their weariness, and halted only after a great march.|''[[The Book of Lost Tales Part Two]]'', "[[The Fall of Gondolin]]"}}

The [[Legolas of Gondolin]], who Tolkien would likely have renamed, has a different etymology. His name (''Laiqalassë'' in its pure form) comes from the primitive [[Quenya]] (''Qenya'') words ''laica'' ("green") and ''lassë'' ("leaf"). The names are very similar, but the characters were different: Legolas of Gondolin was possibly a [[Noldor]] in exile, of the House (kindred) of the Tree. However, the published ''Silmarillion'', in describing [[Turgon]]'s founding of Gondolin, states that Turgon took with him up to a third of the people under [[Fingolfin]], but an even larger number of the Sindar. Thus, whether Legolas of Gondolin was of Noldorin or Sindarin descent is debatable.
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