Talk:Battles of Beleriand

2023-08-09T05:19:13Z

Kreegath: /* "Portrayal in adaptations" */ new section

== Infobox ==

I added an infobox for consistency with other conflicts, and a recently uploaded pic as well. The series of Wars should link together in a rational manner.--[[User:Theoden1|Theoden1]] 17:31, 5 July 2008 (EDT)

== Valarin participation ==

Did Orome and Tulkas actually participate as commanders in the Battles of Beleriand? I am under the impression that no being greater in status and power than Eonwe fought in the War of Wrath.

== Name? ==

I can't seem to find the term "Battles of Beleriand" anywhere in the canon but "Wars of Beleriand" and "War of the Jewels" seem to be very frequently used. I suggest this should be renamed to "Wars of Beleriand". Thoughts?--[[User:Tengwar|Tengwar]] 03:16, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

:"Battles of Beleriand" is used in the ''Silmarillion'''s Index, but "Wars of Beleriand" is used in the narrative. I think you are right, but let me check HoMe. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 08:53, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

::Okay yeah you are correct. Considering this page is a page for a war, I think the page should be renamed to "War of the Jewels" or "Wars of Beleriand" and a section is written as "Battles of Beleriand" for the 5 major battles (as titled in the index) and a seperate section for "Minor Battles" in chronological order.--[[User:Tengwar|Tengwar]] 15:14, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

:::I don't think the current state of the list of Major and minor battles in the War of the Jewels, that is, a half-bulleted, half-numbered list, is particularly effective at conveying information. Perhaps we ought to have a "Timeline" section that includes both Major Battles and minor battles, and then a separate text section for the Major Battles? --[[Special:Contributions/Mord|Mord]] 06:24, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

::::I agree. -- Ancalagon the Black 23:52, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

::::I disagree. Both major and minor battles are events of the same war against Morgoth. Here the main 6 are clearly marked, and creating another article would be more confusing. This one actually has little info, and that's the point: to serve as a disambiguation. We already have a [[Timeline/First Age]], but Mord, you gave a very good idea: what about a [[Index:Conflicts|timeline that lists all the articles about wars]] throughout the ages? --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 00:52, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

:::::I agree with Lorenzo on all points! --{{User:Mith/sig}} 19:59, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

== "Portrayal in adaptations" ==

Since the name of the wiki is "Tolkien Gateway", and Rings of Power is not a Tolkien product, should there really be a section for fiction that is not of Tolkien? Perhaps it could be clarified that the Rings of Power section is in fact not canon? [[User:Kreegath|Kreegath]] ([[User talk:Kreegath|talk]]) 05:19, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

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