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		<title>Talk:Quenya</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Liturgic Compulsions: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== Oromë and Quenya ==&lt;br /&gt;
Tolkien changed his concepts on how Quenya came to be in a later conceptual stage, making Quenya and Valarin completely unrelated:&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;they began to make speech and give names to all things that they perceived. Themselves they named the Quendi, signifying those that speak with voices; for as yet they had met no other living things that spoke or sang.&amp;quot; (Silmarillion, Chapter 3).&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Jaroszewski|Jaroszewski]] 19:12, 7 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Quite. If this article says that [[Oromë]] devised Quenya, then that definitely needs to be changed. I hadn&#039;t looked at it until now. —[[User:Tar-Telperien|Tar-Telperien]] 20:37, 7 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
== Quenya in adaptions ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Should I add a section to Quenya on Quenya in adaptions? {{unsigned|99.249.34.11}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:Sounds like a good idea to me! --[[User:Hyarion|Hyarion]] 04:02, 17 February 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
== Nitpick(s) about the API transcription ==&lt;br /&gt;
Since the API transcription includes a stress marker, it would be wise to add syllable separators [ˈkʷwɛɲa] -&amp;gt; [ˈkʷwɛ.ɲa]. While it seems pretty obvious, I would consider it a better practice, especially in words containing more than two syllables and/or secondary stress. Also, the link to the source is dead and while I don&#039;t question most of the transcription, I would be curious as to why the /k/ is labialized when it is followed by a /w/. Also, API transcriptions using straight brackets [] are used to represent phonetic realization of the word in a specific occurence rather than its phonologic transcription (using &amp;quot;slashs&amp;quot;), which would be used in the context of an encyclopedia (perhaps with a link to alternate realizations, be it by real-life Quenya speakers or simply the different colloquial/dialect realizations). &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Again, since the source is dead, I&#039;d like to know whether it is a mistake due to the lack of knowledge of the conventions of API transcriptions or a genuine transcription.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
I chose to open this discussion topic rather than straight-up changing the page since I&#039;m not too familiar with media wiki editing conventions. If anyone has a snapshot of the source I&#039;d love to peruse it and in the case it is unavailable, I am wondering if we should convert the transcription on this page to phonologic transcriptions. --[[User:User:Liturgic_Compulsions|Liturgic Compulsions]] 16:13, 22 June, 2026 (UTC+2)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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