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Finrod

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{{noldor infobox
| name=Finrod Felagund
| image=[[File:Elena Kukanova - Finrod - First Encounter with Edain.jpg|250px]]
| caption="Finrod - First Encounter with Edain" by [[Elena Kukanova]]
| pronun=
| othernames=''Findaráto''/''Artafindë'' ([[Telerin|T]]/[[Quenya|Q]], [[Father-name|fn]]) ''[[Ingoldo]]'' ([[Quenya|Q]], [[Amilessë|mn]]) ''[[Nóm]]'' or ''Nómin'' ([[Taliska|T]]) ''Felakgundu'' ([[Khuzdul|K]])
| titles=[[King of Nargothrond]]
| position=
| location=[[Eldamar]]; [[Nargothrond]]
| affiliation=[[Quest for the Silmaril]]
| language=[[Quenya]], [[Telerin]], [[Sindarin]] and [[Taliska]]
| birth={{YT|1300}}
| birthlocation=[[Tirion]]
| rule={{FA|102}} - {{FA|465|n}}
| death={{FA|465}}
| deathlocation=[[Tol-in-Gaurhoth]]
| age=c. 2381 years<ref group="note">Years of the Sun. Each Year of the Tree is equal to 9.582 Years of the Sun, and the Years of the Trees ended in the year 1500.</ref>
| notablefor=
| house=[[House of Finarfin]]
| parentage=[[Finarfin]] & [[Eärwen]]
| siblings=[[Angrod]], [[Aegnor]] and [[Galadriel]]
| spouse=Lover of [[Amarië]]
| children=
| gender=Male
| height=
| hair=Golden
| eyes=
| clothing=[[Ring of Barahir]]
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{{Quote|King Finrod Felagund, fairest and most beloved of the [[house of Finwë]].|''[[Quenta Silmarillion]]'', "[[Of Beren and Lúthien]]"}}

'''Finrod''' was an [[Elves|Elven]] king of the [[Noldor]], eldest son of [[Finarfin]] and older brother to [[Angrod]], [[Aegnor]] and [[Galadriel]]. Finrod was like his father in his fair face and golden hair, and also in his noble and generous heart.

In [[Beleriand]], Finrod became the ruler of [[Nargothrond]], taking the [[Epessë|after-name]] of '''Felagund'''. He was a wise, just and powerful Elf, and a great traveller.<ref>[[Robert Foster]], ''[[The Complete Guide to Middle-earth]]'', p. 144</ref>

== History ==
Finrod was born in [[Eldamar]] in the [[Year of the Trees 1300]], the same as his cousin [[Turgon]].<ref>{{AA|85|note}}</ref> They were friends, and his beloved was [[Amarië]] of the [[Vanyar]].

Finrod was among those who opposed [[Fëanor]] and the [[Exile of the Noldor]]. However, when the Noldor were set to depart from [[Aman]], he joined them, for he would not be sundered from his friends and his people who were eager to go. Also, he had no wish to abandon his people to Fëanor's rule.<ref>{{S|Flight}}</ref>

=== Return of the Noldor ===
Finrod, along with his father, led the rear of the host along with many of the noblest and wisest of the Noldor; and often they looked behind them to see their fair city, especially Finrod, for he had to leave Amarië behind. With him, he brought along many treasures from [[Tirion]],<ref name=return>{{S|Return}}</ref> including [[Ring of Barahir|his Ring]].<ref name=beren>{{S|Beren}}</ref>

Finrod and his people did not participate in the [[Kinslaying at Alqualondë]]. While they were travelling up the coast of [[Araman]], the [[Valar|Vala]] [[Mandos]] appeared and pronounced the [[Doom of the Noldor]], and in that hour, Finarfin forsook the march and returned to [[Valinor]] with many of his people. However, Finrod and his siblings went forward still and led their people on the long and perilous march to [[Middle-earth]].

=== Life in Beleriand ===
After their victory in the [[Dagor-nuin-Giliath]], the Noldor started building their numerous realms. Finrod established the tower of [[Minas Tirith (Beleriand)|Minas Tirith]] on the island of [[Tol Sirion]]. Once, while journeying southward along the river [[Sirion]], Finrod and his friend [[Turgon]] encamped upon its banks. [[Ulmo]], coming up the river, laid a deep sleep upon them and heavy dreams; and it seemed to each that he was bidden to prepare for a day of evil, and to establish a retreat, lest [[Morgoth]] should burst from [[Angband]] and overthrow the armies of the North.

[[File:Mysilvergreen - Finrod Felagund.jpg|left|thumb|''Finrod Felagund'' by [[:Category:Images by Mysilvergreen|Mysilvergreen]]]]
Now on a time Finrod and his sister [[Galadriel]] were guests of King [[Thingol|Elu Thingol]], their kinsman in [[Doriath]]. There, Finrod told Thingol of his admiration for the halls of [[Menegroth]]; and Thingol spoke to him of the deep gorge of the river [[Narog]] and told him about the caves under the [[High Faroth]] in its deep western shore. Thus Finrod came to the [[Caverns of Narog]] and established there deep halls and armouries; and that stronghold was called [[Nargothrond]]. In this he was aided by the [[Dwarves]] of the [[Blue Mountains]], and Finrod rewarded them with many jewels from Valinor. In that time, the [[Nauglamír]] was made for him, the Necklace of the Dwarves. After Nargothrond was made, Finrod committed Minas Tirith to the keeping of [[Orodreth]], his nephew, and was referred to by the additional name of ''Felagund'', an honorific title given him by the Dwarves, meaning a "Maker of Caves".

The realm of Nargothrond extended to the sea, excluding the [[Falas]]. Finrod was a friend and ally of [[Círdan]], and had also built the tower [[Barad Nimras]] upon the cape.<ref>{{S|14}}</ref>

=== Encounter with Men ===
[[File:Steamey - Finrod, Beor and the Green-elves of Ossiriand.jpg|thumb|''Finrod, Beor and the Green-elves of Ossiriand'' by [[:Category:Images by Steamey|Steamy]]]]
When over three hundred years had passed since the Noldor came to Beleriand, Finrod journeyed east of Sirion and went hunting with [[Maglor]] and [[Maedhros]], two of the [[sons of Fëanor]]. But he wearied of the hunt and passed on alone towards the mountains of [[Ered Lindon]]. There, in the lands of [[Thargelion]], in [[East Beleriand]], Finrod was the first of the Noldor to come across [[Men]]. These were the kindred and followers of [[Bëor]] [[The Old]]. He went among them while they were sleeping and, picking up a harp which Bëor had laid aside, played music upon it such as the ears of men had not heard. When the men awoke and listened to his song, each thought that he was in some fair dream. He long stayed with them, learning [[Taliska|their language]] and teaching them [[Sindarin]]. He also intervened on behalf of the [[Laiquendi]] of [[Ossiriand]], who feared Men would destroy their home, and he got permission of [[Thingol]], who held rule over all [[Beleriand]], to guide the Men to [[Estolad]].<ref name=West>{{S|West}}</ref>

Finrod had a close friendship with [[Andreth]] of the [[House of Bëor]], whom he often visited during the [[Siege of Angband]] to converse with her on the matters of Elves and Men. One such conversation was written down and later known as ''[[Athrabeth Finrod ah Andreth]]''.

Finrod participated in the [[Dagor Bragollach]], fighting in the [[Fen of Serech]], when he was surrounded by [[Orcs]]. It was [[Barahir]] of the [[House of Bëor]] who saved his life, and Finrod swore an oath of abiding friendship and aid in every need to Barahir and all his kin. As a token he gave Barahir his ring, which became known as the [[Ring of Barahir]].<ref>{{S|Fingolfin}}</ref>

=== Quest for the Silmaril ===
[[File:Anke Eißmann - Finrod is reminded of his oath.jpeg|thumb|''Finrod is reminded of his oath'' by [[Anke Eißmann]]]]
When, ten years later, Barahir's son [[Beren]] came to Nargothrond seeking help, Finrod went with him on the [[Quest for the Silmaril]] to repay his debt. [[Celegorm]] and [[Curufin]], who were living in Nargothrond at the time, persuaded (using barely veiled threats related to their [[Oath of Fëanor|Oath]]) most of Nargothrond to stay behind. Only ten warriors, headed by one [[Edrahil]], were faithful and came with them. Beneath the [[Shadowy Mountains]] they came upon a company of [[Orcs]], and slew them all in their camp. They took their gear and weapons, and by the magic of Finrod, their own forms and faces were changed to the likeness of Orcs. Thus disguised, they came far upon their northward road between [[Ered Wethrin]] and the highlands of [[Taur-nu-Fuin (Dorthonion)|Taur-nu-Fuin]]. However, the twelve were captured and imprisoned by [[Sauron]] on [[Tol-in-Gaurhoth]] ("Isle of Werewolves").<ref name=beren></ref>

[[File:KuraiGeijutsu - And Finrod fell before the Throne.jpg|thumb|''And Finrod fell before the Throne'' by [[:Category:Images by KuraiGeijutsu|Kurai Geijutsu]]]]

Thus befell the contest of Finrod and Sauron. Finrod strove with Sauron in songs of power, and the power of the Elven King was very great. But in the end, Sauron had the mastery. It is told in the ''[[Lay of Leithian]]'':
{{blockquote|He chanted a song of wizardry, 
Of piercing, opening, of treachery, 
Revealing, uncovering, betraying. 
Then sudden Felagund there swaying 
sang in answer a song of staying, 
Resisting, battling against power, 
Of secrets kept, strength like a tower, 
And trust unbroken, freedom, escape; 
Of changing and of shifting shape, 
Of snares eluded, broken traps, 
The prison opening, the chain that snaps, 
Backwards and forwards swayed their song. 
Reeling and foundering, as ever more strong 
The chanting swelled, Felagund fought, 
And all the magic and might he brought, 
Of Elvenesse into his words. 
Softly in the gloom they heard the birds 
Singing afar in Nargothrond, 
The sighing of the sea beyond, 
Beyond the western world, on sand, 
On sand of pearls in Elvenland. 
Then the gloom gathered; darkness growing 
In Valinor, the red blood flowing 
Beside the sea, where the Noldor slew 
The Foamriders, and stealing drew 
Their white ships with their white sails 
From lamplit havens. The wind wails, 
The wolf howls. The ravens flee. 
The ice mutters in the mouths of the sea. 
The captives sad in Angband mourn, 
Thunder rumbles, the fires burn- 
And Finrod fell before the throne.|[[Lay of Leithian Canto VII|Canto VII]], vv. 2173-2205}}

[[File:Anke Eißmann - Death of Finrod Felagund.jpeg|thumb|''Death of Finrod Felagund'' by [[Anke Eißmann]]]]
Then Sauron stripped from them their disguise, but though their kinds were revealed, he could not discover their names or their purposes.

Sauron imprisoned them and one by one they were killed by werewolves until only Beren and Felagund were left, but none of the companions betrayed them. When the werewolf came to kill Beren, Felagund put forth all his power and burst his bonds. He wrestled with the werewolf, and slew it with his hands and teeth. Yet he himself was mortally wounded, and he died in the dark, in Tol-in-Gaurhoth, whose great tower he himself had built. Thus King Finrod Felagund, the fairest and most beloved of the house of [[Finwë]], redeemed his oath.

=== Reincarnation ===
[[File:Donato Giancola - Lore.jpeg|thumb|An Elf loremaster ponders at a mural of Finrod leading his House in battle. Art by [[Donato Giancola]]]]
Because of Finrod's noble actions in life, and his reluctance to journey to Middle-earth, he was rehoused after only a short time. He and [[Glorfindel]] were the only elves who were known to have been reincarnated. It is noted in the ''Lay of Leithian'' that Finrod was soon allowed to return to life in Valinor, and "now dwells with Amarië.”<ref name="GA-2">{{GA|180}}</ref> It is also noted in ''[[The Silmarillion]]'' that "''Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in [[Eldamar]]''".<ref name=beren>{{S|Beren}}</ref>

== Etymology ==
{{seealso|#Other versions of the legendarium}}
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The name ''Finrod'' is the [[Sindarin]] form of his [[father-name]] '''''Findaráto''''' ("[Golden-]Haired Champion"). It is possible he and his brother [[Angrod]] were first called ''[[Aráto]]'', and later differentiated adding ''find-'', referred to the golden hair derived from [[Indis]]. This name was of [[Telerin]] origin, so the proper [[Quenya]] form would be '''''Artafindë'''''.<ref name=Finwe>{{PM|Finwe}}</ref>{{rp|346-347}}

===Felagund===
'''''Felagund''''' was an [[epessë]] given to him by the [[Dwarves]] that expanded the caves of Nargothrond, and meant "Hewer of Caves". It is not Sindarin, but rather [[Sindarinized]] [[Khuzdul]], from '''''Felakgundu'''''. The name was Eldarized by other as '''''Felagon''''' (in relation with Fin''gon'', Tur''gon'').<ref>{{PM|Felagund}}, p. 352</ref>

While revising his [[Elvish]] languages in later years, [[Tolkien]] reinterpreted ''Felagund'' as "den-dweller, brock, badger", from [[Sindarin]] ''fela'', which was used for dens made by wild animals or temporary dwellings of wandering folks, unrelated to big carved caves. The west bank of Narog had many dens of badgers, some of them occupied by [[Petty-dwarves]]. It was thus probable that ''Felagund'' was actually given by the [[Sons of Fëanor]] as a mockery to Finrod, and transmitted by the Dwarves.<ref>{{NM|P3vii}}, p. 304</ref>

An early etymology for ''Felagund'' was "Lord of Caves" in [[Noldorin]], from ''[[fela]]'' ("caverns") + ''[[cunn]]'' ("prince").<ref>{{LR|P3}}, entries "KUNDU", "PHELEG"</ref>

==Other names==
His [[Amilessë|mother-name]] was '''''[[Ingoldo]]''''', which was also the mother-name of his father Finarfin. It meant "''the'' Ñoldo", 'one-eminent of the kindred' which is in simpler words 'the wise'. It was a name used by his brothers and sister, who loved him.<ref name=Finwe>{{PM|Finwe}}</ref>{{rp|346, 360}}

Finrod was also called '''''[[Nóm]]''''' ("Wisdom") by [[Bëor]] and his [[House of Bëor|people]].<ref name=West>{{S|West}}</ref> His other titles include "the Faithful", "the Friend of Men", "[[King of Nargothrond]]", "[[Lord of Nargothrond]]".<ref>{{S|Index}}, entry "Finrod"</ref><ref name=":0">[[J.R.R. Tolkien]], ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]'', [[Appendix B]] "The Tale of Years". </ref>

He was often called by the Eldar '''''Edennil''''' or '''''Atandil''''', which means "Friend of Men" in [[Sindarin]] and [[Quenya]] respectively.<ref>{{MR|P4k}}, p. 349 (cf. p. 306)</ref> A variant for ''Atandil'' was ''Firindil''.<ref>{{VT|41c}}, p. 14</ref>

== Genealogy ==
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== Other versions of the legendarium ==
In earlier versions of the Middle-earth myths, and when ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]'' was published, the name '''Finrod''' was given to the character later known as [[Finarfin]]. Finrod Felagund was then named '''[[Inglor Felagund]]'''. However, that changed in later drafts, and the character who had the name [[Gildor Inglorion]], in ''The Lord of the Rings'', was unrelated to Finrod despite having a name that means Gildor son of Inglor. Finrod was childless and unmarried during the events of ''The Silmarillion'' because his lover, Amarië, remained in Valinor.<ref>{{S|15}}</ref>

In the published ''[[The Silmarillion]]'', Orodreth is Finrod's brother: this was an editorial decision by [[Christopher Tolkien]] and an admitted mistake. Orodreth was actually the son of Angrod and thus Finrod's nephew.

==Portrayal in adaptations==
[[File:The Rings of Power (TV series) - Finrod.jpg|thumb|[[Will Fletcher]] as Finrod in ''[[The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power]]'']]

===Television===
'''2022: ''[[The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power]]'', Season One:'''

: Finrod is portrayed by actor Will Fletcher for Amazon's The Rings of Power series and appears in two episodes.
: '''Episode 1: ''[[A Shadow of the Past]]'''''
: Finrod's appearances this episode are exclusively in the show's opening prologue.
: His first scene takes place in Valinor where he breaks up a fight between the young Galadriel and other elf children after retrieving a paper boat made by Galadriel. Finrod pulls her aside and attempts to comfort Galadriel, posing a philosophical question to his sister: "Do you know why a ship floats, and a stone does not?"
: Finrod then proceeds to answer the metaphor for Galadriel (A ship looks up at the light while a stone looks down into the dark), to which she poses a question of her own regarding how one is to know which "lights" to follow. Finrod then leans in and whispers an answer, though that answer is kept hidden from the audience for this episode.
: Concluding their discussion, Finrod makes a point that Galadriel will not always have him around to explain these sort of things to her. He then tells her that their parents are waiting as he walks over a hill towards the Two Trees of Valinor.
: Finrod is next briefly seen taking an oath alongside numerous other Elves in response to Morgoth's killing of the Two Trees of Valinor.
: Finrod is then shown in the midst of a battle with Orcs in Middle Earth, attempting to rally his troops while shouting phrases in Quenya: "Valaron kalanen" ("By the light of the Valar!") and "Firuvantë" ("They will die!").
: His final appearance in the prologue is atop his tomb, Galadriel's monologue mentioning that Finrod had died while pursuing Sauron after Morgoth's defeat. His body is shown to be clawed in numerous places and he had been branded with the Mark of Sauron. Galadriel then takes Finrod's dagger from his body to serve as a memento of her brother as she takes up his hunt for Sauron
: '''Episode 8: ''[[Alloyed]]'':'''
: Sauron briefly takes the form of Finrod upon entering Galadriel's mind after she confronts him in Eregion, marking the character's second appearance. The two have a brief back and forth where we learn what Finrod whispered to Galadriel in the prologue: "Sometimes, to find the light, we must first touch the darkness."
: Sauron tries to persuade Galadriel of his intentions using Finrod's form but is rejected, upon which he changes tactics and abandons Finrod's appearance.
::
::Significant changes were made regarding Finrod's character and backstory.
::In Valinor, Finrod is shown using a dagger to retrieve Galadriel's damaged boat from the water. The elves did not possess weapons until the Unrest of the Noldor, where - at the urging of Melkor - the Noldor began forging arms in secret. The Silmarillion clearly states that these weapons were never used openly until Feanor drew a sword on his half-brother, Fingolfin. In the series, Finrod openly shows his dagger to the group of elven children while Galadriel's age makes it unlikely that this takes place during the Unrest. No mention of Galadriel inheriting such a weapon exists in Tolkien's writings.
::During his second appearance, Finrod is shown taking an oath of vengeance against Morgoth following the destruction of the Two Trees of Valinor. The scene is heavily modeled after the Oath of Feanor, but Finrod does not make any equivalent oath in the Silmarillion.
::The timing and manner of Finrod's death in the show conflicts with Tolkien's accounts. In both the Silmarillion and in the Appendices of The Lord of the Rings, Finrod is stated to have died saving Beren from a werewolf while the two were imprisoned by Sauron during the Quest for the Silmaril. These events occur partway through the First Age.
::In the Rings of Power, while no exact year is given, Finrod does not perish until after Morgoth's defeat, meaning that, in Amazon's continuity, Finrod survives the entirety of the First Age into the Second. Yet the show clearly states that the events of Beren and Luthien happened as a carved depiction of Luthien is shown in Lindon and mention is made of the two (up to this point) unions between Elf and Man. It also alludes to Finrod being killed by wolves with the claw marks on his body, though Galadriel's monologue establishes that it was Sauron who slew him.
::Finrod's surival also has potential repercussions for the story of Turin, as Nargothrond was deprived of his kingship following his death. For Finrod to make it to the Second Age he would either need to escape the Sacking of Nargothrond by Glaurung or these events simply never happened in Amazon's timeline.
::Finally, Finrod's exchange with Galadriel and the philosophy he imparts to her was made up for the show, as none of the quotes or attitude attributed to him exist in Tolkien's writings.
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Finrod

2023-07-04T10:08:09Z

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{{noldor infobox
| name=Finrod Felagund
| image=[[File:Elena Kukanova - Finrod - First Encounter with Edain.jpg|250px]]
| caption="Finrod - First Encounter with Edain" by [[Elena Kukanova]]
| pronun=
| othernames=''Findaráto''/''Artafindë'' ([[Telerin|T]]/[[Quenya|Q]], [[Father-name|fn]]) ''[[Ingoldo]]'' ([[Quenya|Q]], [[Amilessë|mn]]) ''[[Nóm]]'' or ''Nómin'' ([[Taliska|T]]) ''Felakgundu'' ([[Khuzdul|K]])
| titles=[[King of Nargothrond]]
| position=
| location=[[Eldamar]]; [[Nargothrond]]
| affiliation=[[Quest for the Silmaril]]
| language=[[Quenya]], [[Telerin]], [[Sindarin]] and [[Taliska]]
| birth={{YT|1300}}
| birthlocation=[[Tirion]]
| rule={{FA|102}} - {{FA|465|n}}
| death={{FA|465}}
| deathlocation=[[Tol-in-Gaurhoth]]
| age=c. 2381 years<ref group="note">Years of the Sun. Each Year of the Tree is equal to 9.582 Years of the Sun, and the Years of the Trees ended in the year 1500.</ref>
| notablefor=
| house=[[House of Finarfin]]
| parentage=[[Finarfin]] & [[Eärwen]]
| siblings=[[Angrod]], [[Aegnor]] and [[Galadriel]]
| spouse=Lover of [[Amarië]]
| children=
| gender=Male
| height=
| hair=Golden
| eyes=
| clothing=[[Ring of Barahir]]
| weapons=
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{{Quote|King Finrod Felagund, fairest and most beloved of the [[house of Finwë]].|''[[Quenta Silmarillion]]'', "[[Of Beren and Lúthien]]"}}

'''Finrod''' was an [[Elves|Elven]] king of the [[Noldor]], eldest son of [[Finarfin]] and older brother to [[Angrod]], [[Aegnor]] and [[Galadriel]]. Finrod was like his father in his fair face and golden hair, and also in his noble and generous heart.

In [[Beleriand]], Finrod became the ruler of [[Nargothrond]], taking the [[Epessë|after-name]] of '''Felagund'''. He was a wise, just and powerful Elf, and a great traveller.<ref>[[Robert Foster]], ''[[The Complete Guide to Middle-earth]]'', p. 144</ref>

== History ==
Finrod was born in [[Eldamar]] in the [[Year of the Trees 1300]], the same as his cousin [[Turgon]].<ref>{{AA|85|note}}</ref> They were friends, and his beloved was [[Amarië]] of the [[Vanyar]].

Finrod was among those who opposed [[Fëanor]] and the [[Exile of the Noldor]]. However, when the Noldor were set to depart from [[Aman]], he joined them, for he would not be sundered from his friends and his people who were eager to go. Also, he had no wish to abandon his people to Fëanor's rule.<ref>{{S|Flight}}</ref>

=== Return of the Noldor ===
Finrod, along with his father, led the rear of the host along with many of the noblest and wisest of the Noldor; and often they looked behind them to see their fair city, especially Finrod, for he had to leave Amarië behind. With him, he brought along many treasures from [[Tirion]],<ref name=return>{{S|Return}}</ref> including [[Ring of Barahir|his Ring]].<ref name=beren>{{S|Beren}}</ref>

Finrod and his people did not participate in the [[Kinslaying at Alqualondë]]. While they were travelling up the coast of [[Araman]], the [[Valar|Vala]] [[Mandos]] appeared and pronounced the [[Doom of the Noldor]], and in that hour, Finarfin forsook the march and returned to [[Valinor]] with many of his people. However, Finrod and his siblings went forward still and led their people on the long and perilous march to [[Middle-earth]].

=== Life in Beleriand ===
After their victory in the [[Dagor-nuin-Giliath]], the Noldor started building their numerous realms. Finrod established the tower of [[Minas Tirith (Beleriand)|Minas Tirith]] on the island of [[Tol Sirion]]. Once, while journeying southward along the river [[Sirion]], Finrod and his friend [[Turgon]] encamped upon its banks. [[Ulmo]], coming up the river, laid a deep sleep upon them and heavy dreams; and it seemed to each that he was bidden to prepare for a day of evil, and to establish a retreat, lest [[Morgoth]] should burst from [[Angband]] and overthrow the armies of the North.

[[File:Mysilvergreen - Finrod Felagund.jpg|left|thumb|''Finrod Felagund'' by [[:Category:Images by Mysilvergreen|Mysilvergreen]]]]
Now on a time Finrod and his sister [[Galadriel]] were guests of King [[Thingol|Elu Thingol]], their kinsman in [[Doriath]]. There, Finrod told Thingol of his admiration for the halls of [[Menegroth]]; and Thingol spoke to him of the deep gorge of the river [[Narog]] and told him about the caves under the [[High Faroth]] in its deep western shore. Thus Finrod came to the [[Caverns of Narog]] and established there deep halls and armouries; and that stronghold was called [[Nargothrond]]. In this he was aided by the [[Dwarves]] of the [[Blue Mountains]], and Finrod rewarded them with many jewels from Valinor. In that time, the [[Nauglamír]] was made for him, the Necklace of the Dwarves. After Nargothrond was made, Finrod committed Minas Tirith to the keeping of [[Orodreth]], his nephew, and was referred to by the additional name of ''Felagund'', an honorific title given him by the Dwarves, meaning a "Maker of Caves".

The realm of Nargothrond extended to the sea, excluding the [[Falas]]. Finrod was a friend and ally of [[Círdan]], and had also built the tower [[Barad Nimras]] upon the cape.<ref>{{S|14}}</ref>

=== Encounter with Men ===
[[File:Steamey - Finrod, Beor and the Green-elves of Ossiriand.jpg|thumb|''Finrod, Beor and the Green-elves of Ossiriand'' by [[:Category:Images by Steamey|Steamy]]]]
When over three hundred years had passed since the Noldor came to Beleriand, Finrod journeyed east of Sirion and went hunting with [[Maglor]] and [[Maedhros]], two of the [[sons of Fëanor]]. But he wearied of the hunt and passed on alone towards the mountains of [[Ered Lindon]]. There, in the lands of [[Thargelion]], in [[East Beleriand]], Finrod was the first of the Noldor to come across [[Men]]. These were the kindred and followers of [[Bëor]] [[The Old]]. He went among them while they were sleeping and, picking up a harp which Bëor had laid aside, played music upon it such as the ears of men had not heard. When the men awoke and listened to his song, each thought that he was in some fair dream. He long stayed with them, learning [[Taliska|their language]] and teaching them [[Sindarin]]. He also intervened on behalf of the [[Laiquendi]] of [[Ossiriand]], who feared Men would destroy their home, and he got permission of [[Thingol]], who held rule over all [[Beleriand]], to guide the Men to [[Estolad]].<ref name=West>{{S|West}}</ref>

Finrod had a close friendship with [[Andreth]] of the [[House of Bëor]], whom he often visited during the [[Siege of Angband]] to converse with her on the matters of Elves and Men. One such conversation was written down and later known as ''[[Athrabeth Finrod ah Andreth]]''.

Finrod participated in the [[Dagor Bragollach]], fighting in the [[Fen of Serech]], when he was surrounded by [[Orcs]]. It was [[Barahir]] of the [[House of Bëor]] who saved his life, and Finrod swore an oath of abiding friendship and aid in every need to Barahir and all his kin. As a token he gave Barahir his ring, which became known as the [[Ring of Barahir]].<ref>{{S|Fingolfin}}</ref>

=== Quest for the Silmaril ===
[[File:Anke Eißmann - Finrod is reminded of his oath.jpeg|thumb|''Finrod is reminded of his oath'' by [[Anke Eißmann]]]]
When, ten years later, Barahir's son [[Beren]] came to Nargothrond seeking help, Finrod went with him on the [[Quest for the Silmaril]] to repay his debt. [[Celegorm]] and [[Curufin]], who were living in Nargothrond at the time, persuaded (using barely veiled threats related to their [[Oath of Fëanor|Oath]]) most of Nargothrond to stay behind. Only ten warriors, headed by one [[Edrahil]], were faithful and came with them. Beneath the [[Shadowy Mountains]] they came upon a company of [[Orcs]], and slew them all in their camp. They took their gear and weapons, and by the magic of Finrod, their own forms and faces were changed to the likeness of Orcs. Thus disguised, they came far upon their northward road between [[Ered Wethrin]] and the highlands of [[Taur-nu-Fuin (Dorthonion)|Taur-nu-Fuin]]. However, the twelve were captured and imprisoned by [[Sauron]] on [[Tol-in-Gaurhoth]] ("Isle of Werewolves").<ref name=beren></ref>

[[File:KuraiGeijutsu - And Finrod fell before the Throne.jpg|thumb|''And Finrod fell before the Throne'' by [[:Category:Images by KuraiGeijutsu|Kurai Geijutsu]]]]

Thus befell the contest of Finrod and Sauron. Finrod strove with Sauron in songs of power, and the power of the Elven King was very great. But in the end, Sauron had the mastery. It is told in the ''[[Lay of Leithian]]'':
{{blockquote|He chanted a song of wizardry, 
Of piercing, opening, of treachery, 
Revealing, uncovering, betraying. 
Then sudden Felagund there swaying 
sang in answer a song of staying, 
Resisting, battling against power, 
Of secrets kept, strength like a tower, 
And trust unbroken, freedom, escape; 
Of changing and of shifting shape, 
Of snares eluded, broken traps, 
The prison opening, the chain that snaps, 
Backwards and forwards swayed their song. 
Reeling and foundering, as ever more strong 
The chanting swelled, Felagund fought, 
And all the magic and might he brought, 
Of Elvenesse into his words. 
Softly in the gloom they heard the birds 
Singing afar in Nargothrond, 
The sighing of the sea beyond, 
Beyond the western world, on sand, 
On sand of pearls in Elvenland. 
Then the gloom gathered; darkness growing 
In Valinor, the red blood flowing 
Beside the sea, where the Noldor slew 
The Foamriders, and stealing drew 
Their white ships with their white sails 
From lamplit havens. The wind wails, 
The wolf howls. The ravens flee. 
The ice mutters in the mouths of the sea. 
The captives sad in Angband mourn, 
Thunder rumbles, the fires burn- 
And Finrod fell before the throne.|[[Lay of Leithian Canto VII|Canto VII]], vv. 2173-2205}}

[[File:Anke Eißmann - Death of Finrod Felagund.jpeg|thumb|''Death of Finrod Felagund'' by [[Anke Eißmann]]]]
Then Sauron stripped from them their disguise, but though their kinds were revealed, he could not discover their names or their purposes.

Sauron imprisoned them and one by one they were killed by werewolves until only Beren and Felagund were left, but none of the companions betrayed them. When the werewolf came to kill Beren, Felagund put forth all his power and burst his bonds. He wrestled with the werewolf, and slew it with his hands and teeth. Yet he himself was mortally wounded, and he died in the dark, in Tol-in-Gaurhoth, whose great tower he himself had built. Thus King Finrod Felagund, the fairest and most beloved of the house of [[Finwë]], redeemed his oath.

=== Reincarnation ===
[[File:Donato Giancola - Lore.jpeg|thumb|An Elf loremaster ponders at a mural of Finrod leading his House in battle. Art by [[Donato Giancola]]]]
Because of Finrod's noble actions in life, and his reluctance to journey to Middle-earth, he was rehoused after only a short time. He and [[Glorfindel]] were the only elves who were known to have been reincarnated. It is noted in the ''Lay of Leithian'' that Finrod was soon allowed to return to life in Valinor, and "now dwells with Amarië.”<ref name="GA-2">{{GA|180}}</ref> It is also noted in ''[[The Silmarillion]]'' that "''Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in [[Eldamar]]''".<ref name=beren>{{S|Beren}}</ref>

== Etymology ==
{{seealso|#Other versions of the legendarium}}
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The name ''Finrod'' is the [[Sindarin]] form of his [[father-name]] '''''Findaráto''''' ("[Golden-]Haired Champion"). It is possible he and his brother [[Angrod]] were first called ''[[Aráto]]'', and later differentiated adding ''find-'', referred to the golden hair derived from [[Indis]]. This name was of [[Telerin]] origin, so the proper [[Quenya]] form would be '''''Artafindë'''''.<ref name=Finwe>{{PM|Finwe}}</ref>{{rp|346-347}}

===Felagund===
'''''Felagund''''' was an [[epessë]] given to him by the [[Dwarves]] that expanded the caves of Nargothrond, and meant "Hewer of Caves". It is not Sindarin, but rather [[Sindarinized]] [[Khuzdul]], from '''''Felakgundu'''''. The name was Eldarized by other as '''''Felagon''''' (in relation with Fin''gon'', Tur''gon'').<ref>{{PM|Felagund}}, p. 352</ref>

While revising his [[Elvish]] languages in later years, [[Tolkien]] reinterpreted ''Felagund'' as "den-dweller, brock, badger", from [[Sindarin]] ''fela'', which was used for dens made by wild animals or temporary dwellings of wandering folks, unrelated to big carved caves. The west bank of Narog had many dens of badgers, some of them occupied by [[Petty-dwarves]]. It was thus probable that ''Felagund'' was actually given by the [[Sons of Fëanor]] as a mockery to Finrod, and transmitted by the Dwarves.<ref>{{NM|P3vii}}, p. 304</ref>

An early etymology for ''Felagund'' was "Lord of Caves" in [[Noldorin]], from ''[[fela]]'' ("caverns") + ''[[cunn]]'' ("prince").<ref>{{LR|P3}}, entries "KUNDU", "PHELEG"</ref>

==Other names==
His [[Amilessë|mother-name]] was '''''[[Ingoldo]]''''', which was also the mother-name of his father Finarfin. It meant "''the'' Ñoldo", 'one-eminent of the kindred' which is in simpler words 'the wise'. It was a name used by his brothers and sister, who loved him.<ref name=Finwe>{{PM|Finwe}}</ref>{{rp|346, 360}}

Finrod was also called '''''[[Nóm]]''''' ("Wisdom") by [[Bëor]] and his [[House of Bëor|people]].<ref name=West>{{S|West}}</ref> His other titles include "the Faithful", "the Friend of Men", "[[King of Nargothrond]]", "[[Lord of Nargothrond]]".<ref>{{S|Index}}, entry "Finrod"</ref><ref name=":0">[[J.R.R. Tolkien]], ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]'', [[Appendix B]] "The Tale of Years". </ref>

He was often called by the Eldar '''''Edennil''''' or '''''Atandil''''', which means "Friend of Men" in [[Sindarin]] and [[Quenya]] respectively.<ref>{{MR|P4k}}, p. 349 (cf. p. 306)</ref> A variant for ''Atandil'' was ''Firindil''.<ref>{{VT|41c}}, p. 14</ref>

== Genealogy ==
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== Other versions of the legendarium ==
In earlier versions of the Middle-earth myths, and when ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]'' was published, the name '''Finrod''' was given to the character later known as [[Finarfin]]. Finrod Felagund was then named '''[[Inglor Felagund]]'''. However, that changed in later drafts, and the character who had the name [[Gildor Inglorion]], in ''The Lord of the Rings'', was unrelated to Finrod despite having a name that means Gildor son of Inglor. Finrod was childless and unmarried during the events of ''The Silmarillion'' because his lover, Amarië, remained in Valinor.<ref>{{S|15}}</ref>

In the published ''[[The Silmarillion]]'', Orodreth is Finrod's brother: this was an editorial decision by [[Christopher Tolkien]] and an admitted mistake. Orodreth was actually the son of Angrod and thus Finrod's nephew.

==Portrayal in adaptations==
[[File:The Rings of Power (TV series) - Finrod.jpg|thumb|[[Will Fletcher]] as Finrod in ''[[The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power]]'']]

===Television===
'''2022: ''[[The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power]]'', Season One:'''

: Finrod is portrayed by actor Will Fletcher for Amazon's The Rings of Power series and appears in two episodes.
: '''Episode 1: ''[[A Shadow of the Past]]'''''
: Finrod's appearances this episode are exclusively in the show's opening prologue.
: His first scene takes place in Valinor where he breaks up a fight between the young Galadriel and other elf children after retrieving a paper boat made by Galadriel. Finrod pulls her aside and attempts to comfort Galadriel, posing a philosophical question to his sister: "Do you know why a ship floats, and a stone does not?"
: Finrod then proceeds to answer the metaphor for Galadriel (A ship looks up at the light while a stone looks down into the dark), to which she poses a question of her own regarding how one is to know which "lights" to follow. Finrod then leans in and whispers an answer, though that answer is kept hidden from the audience for this episode.
: Concluding their discussion, Finrod makes a point that Galadriel will not always have him around to explain these sort of things to her. He then tells her that their parents are waiting as he walks over a hill towards the Two Trees of Valinor.
: Finrod is next briefly seen taking an oath alongside numerous other Elves in response to Morgoth's killing of the Two Trees of Valinor.
: Finrod is then shown in the midst of a battle with Orcs in Middle Earth, attempting to rally his troops while shouting phrases in Quenya: "Valaron kalanen" ("By the light of the Valar!") and "Firuvantë" ("They will die!").
: His final appearance in the prologue is atop his tomb, Galadriel's monologue mentioning that Finrod had died while pursuing Sauron after Morgoth's defeat. His body is shown to be clawed in numerous places and he had been branded with the Mark of Sauron. Galadriel then takes Finrod's dagger from his body to serve as a memento of her brother as she takes up his hunt for Sauron
: '''Episode 8: ''[[Alloyed]]'':'''
: Sauron briefly takes the form of Finrod upon entering Galadriel's mind after she confronts him in Eregion, marking the character's second appearance. The two have a brief back and forth where we learn what Finrod whispered to Galadriel in the prologue: "Sometimes, to find the light, we must first touch the darkness."
: Sauron tries to persuade Galadriel of his intentions using Finrod's form but is rejected, upon which he changes tactics and abandons Finrod's appearance.
::
::Significant changes were made regarding Finrod's character and backstory.
::In Valinor, Finrod is shown using a dagger to retrieve Galadriel's damaged boat from the water. The elves did not possess weapons until the Unrest of the Noldor, where - at the urging of Melkor - the Noldor began forging arms in secret. The Silmarillion clearly states that these weapons were never used openly until Feanor drew a sword on his half-brother, Fingolfin. In the series, Finrod openly shows his dagger to the group of elven children while Galadriel's age makes it unlikely that this takes place during the Unrest. No mention of Galadriel inheriting such a weapon exists in Tolkien's writings.
::During his second appearance, Finrod is shown taking an oath of vengeance against Morgoth following the destruction of the Two Trees of Valinor. The scene is heavily modeled after the Oath of Feanor, but Finrod does not make any equivalent oath in the Silmarillion.
::The timing and manner of Finrod's death in the show conflicts with Tolkien's accounts. In both the Silmarillion and in the Appendices of The Lord of the Rings, Finrod is stated to have died saving Beren from a werewolf while the two were imprisoned by Sauron during the Quest for the Silmaril. These events occur partway through the First Age.
::In the Rings of Power, while no exact year is given, Finrod does not perish until after Morgoth's defeat, meaning that, in Amazon's continuity, Finrod survives the entirety of the First Age into the Second. Yet the show clearly states that the events of Beren and Luthien happened as a carved depiction of Luthien is shown in Lindon and mention is made of the two (up to this point) unions between Elf and Man. It also alludes to Finrod being killed by wolves with the claw marks on his body, though Galadriel's monologue establishes that it was Sauron who slew him.
::Finrod's surival also has potential repercussions for the story of Turin, as Nargothrond was deprived of his kingship following his death. For Finrod to make it to the Second Age he would either need to escape the Sacking of Nargothrond by Glaurung or these events simply never happened in Amazon's timeline.
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| image=[[File:Elena Kukanova - Finrod - First Encounter with Edain.jpg|250px]]
| caption="Finrod - First Encounter with Edain" by [[Elena Kukanova]]
| pronun=
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| house=[[House of Finarfin]]
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{{Quote|King Finrod Felagund, fairest and most beloved of the [[house of Finwë]].|''[[Quenta Silmarillion]]'', "[[Of Beren and Lúthien]]"}}

'''Finrod''' was an [[Elves|Elven]] king of the [[Noldor]], eldest son of [[Finarfin]] and older brother to [[Angrod]], [[Aegnor]] and [[Galadriel]]. Finrod was like his father in his fair face and golden hair, and also in his noble and generous heart.

In [[Beleriand]], Finrod became the ruler of [[Nargothrond]], taking the [[Epessë|after-name]] of '''Felagund'''. He was a wise, just and powerful Elf, and a great traveller.<ref>[[Robert Foster]], ''[[The Complete Guide to Middle-earth]]'', p. 144</ref>

== History ==
Finrod was born in [[Eldamar]] in the [[Year of the Trees 1300]], the same as his cousin [[Turgon]].<ref>{{AA|85|note}}</ref> They were friends, and his beloved was [[Amarië]] of the [[Vanyar]].

Finrod was among those who opposed [[Fëanor]] and the [[Exile of the Noldor]]. However, when the Noldor were set to depart from [[Aman]], he joined them, for he would not be sundered from his friends and his people who were eager to go. Also, he had no wish to abandon his people to Fëanor's rule.<ref>{{S|Flight}}</ref>

=== Return of the Noldor ===
Finrod, along with his father, led the rear of the host along with many of the noblest and wisest of the Noldor; and often they looked behind them to see their fair city, especially Finrod, for he had to leave Amarië behind. With him, he brought along many treasures from [[Tirion]],<ref name=return>{{S|Return}}</ref> including [[Ring of Barahir|his Ring]].<ref name=beren>{{S|Beren}}</ref>

Finrod and his people did not participate in the [[Kinslaying at Alqualondë]]. While they were travelling up the coast of [[Araman]], the [[Valar|Vala]] [[Mandos]] appeared and pronounced the [[Doom of the Noldor]], and in that hour, Finarfin forsook the march and returned to [[Valinor]] with many of his people. However, Finrod and his siblings went forward still and led their people on the long and perilous march to [[Middle-earth]].

=== Life in Beleriand ===
After their victory in the [[Dagor-nuin-Giliath]], the Noldor started building their numerous realms. Finrod established the tower of [[Minas Tirith (Beleriand)|Minas Tirith]] on the island of [[Tol Sirion]]. Once, while journeying southward along the river [[Sirion]], Finrod and his friend [[Turgon]] encamped upon its banks. [[Ulmo]], coming up the river, laid a deep sleep upon them and heavy dreams; and it seemed to each that he was bidden to prepare for a day of evil, and to establish a retreat, lest [[Morgoth]] should burst from [[Angband]] and overthrow the armies of the North.

[[File:Mysilvergreen - Finrod Felagund.jpg|left|thumb|''Finrod Felagund'' by [[:Category:Images by Mysilvergreen|Mysilvergreen]]]]
Now on a time Finrod and his sister [[Galadriel]] were guests of King [[Thingol|Elu Thingol]], their kinsman in [[Doriath]]. There, Finrod told Thingol of his admiration for the halls of [[Menegroth]]; and Thingol spoke to him of the deep gorge of the river [[Narog]] and told him about the caves under the [[High Faroth]] in its deep western shore. Thus Finrod came to the [[Caverns of Narog]] and established there deep halls and armouries; and that stronghold was called [[Nargothrond]]. In this he was aided by the [[Dwarves]] of the [[Blue Mountains]], and Finrod rewarded them with many jewels from Valinor. In that time, the [[Nauglamír]] was made for him, the Necklace of the Dwarves. After Nargothrond was made, Finrod committed Minas Tirith to the keeping of [[Orodreth]], his nephew, and was referred to by the additional name of ''Felagund'', an honorific title given him by the Dwarves, meaning a "Maker of Caves".

The realm of Nargothrond extended to the sea, excluding the [[Falas]]. Finrod was a friend and ally of [[Círdan]], and had also built the tower [[Barad Nimras]] upon the cape.<ref>{{S|14}}</ref>

=== Encounter with Men ===
[[File:Steamey - Finrod, Beor and the Green-elves of Ossiriand.jpg|thumb|''Finrod, Beor and the Green-elves of Ossiriand'' by [[:Category:Images by Steamey|Steamy]]]]
When over three hundred years had passed since the Noldor came to Beleriand, Finrod journeyed east of Sirion and went hunting with [[Maglor]] and [[Maedhros]], two of the [[sons of Fëanor]]. But he wearied of the hunt and passed on alone towards the mountains of [[Ered Lindon]]. There, in the lands of [[Thargelion]], in [[East Beleriand]], Finrod was the first of the Noldor to come across [[Men]]. These were the kindred and followers of [[Bëor]] [[The Old]]. He went among them while they were sleeping and, picking up a harp which Bëor had laid aside, played music upon it such as the ears of men had not heard. When the men awoke and listened to his song, each thought that he was in some fair dream. He long stayed with them, learning [[Taliska|their language]] and teaching them [[Sindarin]]. He also intervened on behalf of the [[Laiquendi]] of [[Ossiriand]], who feared Men would destroy their home, and he got permission of [[Thingol]], who held rule over all [[Beleriand]], to guide the Men to [[Estolad]].<ref name=West>{{S|West}}</ref>

Finrod had a close friendship with [[Andreth]] of the [[House of Bëor]], whom he often visited during the [[Siege of Angband]] to converse with her on the matters of Elves and Men. One such conversation was written down and later known as ''[[Athrabeth Finrod ah Andreth]]''.

Finrod participated in the [[Dagor Bragollach]], fighting in the [[Fen of Serech]], when he was surrounded by [[Orcs]]. It was [[Barahir]] of the [[House of Bëor]] who saved his life, and Finrod swore an oath of abiding friendship and aid in every need to Barahir and all his kin. As a token he gave Barahir his ring, which became known as the [[Ring of Barahir]].<ref>{{S|Fingolfin}}</ref>

=== Quest for the Silmaril ===
[[File:Anke Eißmann - Finrod is reminded of his oath.jpeg|thumb|''Finrod is reminded of his oath'' by [[Anke Eißmann]]]]
When, ten years later, Barahir's son [[Beren]] came to Nargothrond seeking help, Finrod went with him on the [[Quest for the Silmaril]] to repay his debt. [[Celegorm]] and [[Curufin]], who were living in Nargothrond at the time, persuaded (using barely veiled threats related to their [[Oath of Fëanor|Oath]]) most of Nargothrond to stay behind. Only ten warriors, headed by one [[Edrahil]], were faithful and came with them. Beneath the [[Shadowy Mountains]] they came upon a company of [[Orcs]], and slew them all in their camp. They took their gear and weapons, and by the magic of Finrod, their own forms and faces were changed to the likeness of Orcs. Thus disguised, they came far upon their northward road between [[Ered Wethrin]] and the highlands of [[Taur-nu-Fuin (Dorthonion)|Taur-nu-Fuin]]. However, the twelve were captured and imprisoned by [[Sauron]] on [[Tol-in-Gaurhoth]] ("Isle of Werewolves").<ref name=beren></ref>

[[File:KuraiGeijutsu - And Finrod fell before the Throne.jpg|thumb|''And Finrod fell before the Throne'' by [[:Category:Images by KuraiGeijutsu|Kurai Geijutsu]]]]

Thus befell the contest of Finrod and Sauron. Finrod strove with Sauron in songs of power, and the power of the Elven King was very great. But in the end, Sauron had the mastery. It is told in the ''[[Lay of Leithian]]'':
{{blockquote|He chanted a song of wizardry, 
Of piercing, opening, of treachery, 
Revealing, uncovering, betraying. 
Then sudden Felagund there swaying 
sang in answer a song of staying, 
Resisting, battling against power, 
Of secrets kept, strength like a tower, 
And trust unbroken, freedom, escape; 
Of changing and of shifting shape, 
Of snares eluded, broken traps, 
The prison opening, the chain that snaps, 
Backwards and forwards swayed their song. 
Reeling and foundering, as ever more strong 
The chanting swelled, Felagund fought, 
And all the magic and might he brought, 
Of Elvenesse into his words. 
Softly in the gloom they heard the birds 
Singing afar in Nargothrond, 
The sighing of the sea beyond, 
Beyond the western world, on sand, 
On sand of pearls in Elvenland. 
Then the gloom gathered; darkness growing 
In Valinor, the red blood flowing 
Beside the sea, where the Noldor slew 
The Foamriders, and stealing drew 
Their white ships with their white sails 
From lamplit havens. The wind wails, 
The wolf howls. The ravens flee. 
The ice mutters in the mouths of the sea. 
The captives sad in Angband mourn, 
Thunder rumbles, the fires burn- 
And Finrod fell before the throne.|[[Lay of Leithian Canto VII|Canto VII]], vv. 2173-2205}}

[[File:Anke Eißmann - Death of Finrod Felagund.jpeg|thumb|''Death of Finrod Felagund'' by [[Anke Eißmann]]]]
Then Sauron stripped from them their disguise, but though their kinds were revealed, he could not discover their names or their purposes.

Sauron imprisoned them and one by one they were killed by werewolves until only Beren and Felagund were left, but none of the companions betrayed them. When the werewolf came to kill Beren, Felagund put forth all his power and burst his bonds. He wrestled with the werewolf, and slew it with his hands and teeth. Yet he himself was mortally wounded, and he died in the dark, in Tol-in-Gaurhoth, whose great tower he himself had built. Thus King Finrod Felagund, the fairest and most beloved of the house of [[Finwë]], redeemed his oath.

=== Reincarnation ===
[[File:Donato Giancola - Lore.jpeg|thumb|An Elf loremaster ponders at a mural of Finrod leading his House in battle. Art by [[Donato Giancola]]]]
Because of Finrod's noble actions in life, and his reluctance to journey to Middle-earth, he was rehoused after only a short time. He and [[Glorfindel]] were the only elves who were known to have been reincarnated. It is noted in the ''Lay of Leithian'' that Finrod was soon allowed to return to life in Valinor, and "now dwells with Amarië.”<ref name="GA-2">{{GA|180}}</ref> It is also noted in ''[[The Silmarillion]]'' that "''Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in [[Eldamar]]''".<ref name=beren>{{S|Beren}}</ref>

== Etymology ==
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The name ''Finrod'' is the [[Sindarin]] form of his [[father-name]] '''''Findaráto''''' ("[Golden-]Haired Champion"). It is possible he and his brother [[Angrod]] were first called ''[[Aráto]]'', and later differentiated adding ''find-'', referred to the golden hair derived from [[Indis]]. This name was of [[Telerin]] origin, so the proper [[Quenya]] form would be '''''Artafindë'''''.<ref name=Finwe>{{PM|Finwe}}</ref>{{rp|346-347}}

===Felagund===
'''''Felagund''''' was an [[epessë]] given to him by the [[Dwarves]] that expanded the caves of Nargothrond, and meant "Hewer of Caves". It is not Sindarin, but rather [[Sindarinized]] [[Khuzdul]], from '''''Felakgundu'''''. The name was Eldarized by other as '''''Felagon''''' (in relation with Fin''gon'', Tur''gon'').<ref>{{PM|Felagund}}, p. 352</ref>

While revising his [[Elvish]] languages in later years, [[Tolkien]] reinterpreted ''Felagund'' as "den-dweller, brock, badger", from [[Sindarin]] ''fela'', which was used for dens made by wild animals or temporary dwellings of wandering folks, unrelated to big carved caves. The west bank of Narog had many dens of badgers, some of them occupied by [[Petty-dwarves]]. It was thus probable that ''Felagund'' was actually given by the [[Sons of Fëanor]] as a mockery to Finrod, and transmitted by the Dwarves.<ref>{{NM|P3vii}}, p. 304</ref>

An early etymology for ''Felagund'' was "Lord of Caves" in [[Noldorin]], from ''[[fela]]'' ("caverns") + ''[[cunn]]'' ("prince").<ref>{{LR|P3}}, entries "KUNDU", "PHELEG"</ref>

==Other names==
His [[Amilessë|mother-name]] was '''''[[Ingoldo]]''''', which was also the mother-name of his father Finarfin. It meant "''the'' Ñoldo", 'one-eminent of the kindred' which is in simpler words 'the wise'. It was a name used by his brothers and sister, who loved him.<ref name=Finwe>{{PM|Finwe}}</ref>{{rp|346, 360}}

Finrod was also called '''''[[Nóm]]''''' ("Wisdom") by [[Bëor]] and his [[House of Bëor|people]].<ref name=West>{{S|West}}</ref> His other titles include "the Faithful", "the Friend of Men", "[[King of Nargothrond]]", "[[Lord of Nargothrond]]".<ref>{{S|Index}}, entry "Finrod"</ref><ref name=":0">[[J.R.R. Tolkien]], ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]'', [[Appendix B]] "The Tale of Years". </ref>

He was often called by the Eldar '''''Edennil''''' or '''''Atandil''''', which means "Friend of Men" in [[Sindarin]] and [[Quenya]] respectively.<ref>{{MR|P4k}}, p. 349 (cf. p. 306)</ref> A variant for ''Atandil'' was ''Firindil''.<ref>{{VT|41c}}, p. 14</ref>

== Genealogy ==
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== Other versions of the legendarium ==
In earlier versions of the Middle-earth myths, and when ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]'' was published, the name '''Finrod''' was given to the character later known as [[Finarfin]]. Finrod Felagund was then named '''[[Inglor Felagund]]'''. However, that changed in later drafts, and the character who had the name [[Gildor Inglorion]], in ''The Lord of the Rings'', was unrelated to Finrod despite having a name that means Gildor son of Inglor. Finrod was childless and unmarried during the events of ''The Silmarillion'' because his lover, Amarië, remained in Valinor.<ref>{{S|15}}</ref>

In the published ''[[The Silmarillion]]'', Orodreth is Finrod's brother: this was an editorial decision by [[Christopher Tolkien]] and an admitted mistake. Orodreth was actually the son of Angrod and thus Finrod's nephew.

==Portrayal in adaptations==
[[File:The Rings of Power (TV series) - Finrod.jpg|thumb|[[Will Fletcher]] as Finrod in ''[[The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power]]'']]

===Television===
'''2022: ''[[The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power]]'', Season One:'''

: Finrod is portrayed by actor Will Fletcher for Amazon's The Rings of Power series and appears in two episodes.
: '''Episode 1: ''[[A Shadow of the Past]]'''''
: Finrod's appearances this episode are exclusively in the show's opening prologue.
: His first scene takes place in Valinor where he breaks up a fight between the young Galadriel and other elf children after retrieving a paper boat made by Galadriel. Finrod pulls her aside and attempts to comfort Galadriel, posing a philosophical question to his sister: "Do you know why a ship floats, and a stone does not?"
: Finrod then proceeds to answer the metaphor for Galadriel (A ship looks up at the light while a stone looks down into the dark), to which she poses a question of her own regarding how one is to know which "lights" to follow. Finrod then leans in and whispers an answer, though that answer is kept hidden from the audience for this episode.
: Concluding their discussion, Finrod makes a point that Galadriel will not always have him around to explain these sort of things to her. He then tells her that their parents are waiting as he walks over a hill towards the Two Trees of Valinor.
: Finrod is next briefly seen taking an oath alongside numerous other Elves in response to Morgoth's killing of the Two Trees of Valinor.
: Finrod is then shown in the midst of a battle with Orcs in Middle Earth, attempting to rally his troops while shouting phrases in Quenya: "Valaron kalanen" ("By the light of the Valar!") and "Firuvantë" ("They will die!").
: His final appearance in the prologue is atop his tomb, Galadriel's monologue mentioning that Finrod had died while pursuing Sauron after Morgoth's defeat. His body is shown to be clawed in numerous places and he had been branded with the Mark of Sauron. Galadriel then takes Finrod's dagger from his body to serve as a memento of her brother as she takes up his hunt for Sauron
: '''Episode 8: ''[[Alloyed]]'':'''
: Sauron briefly takes the form of Finrod upon entering Galadriel's mind after she confronts him in Eregion, marking the character's second appearance. The two have a brief back and forth where we learn what Finrod whispered to Galadriel in the prologue: "Sometimes, to find the light, we must first touch the darkness."
: Sauron tries to persuade Galadriel of his intentions using Finrod's form but is rejected, upon which he changes tactics and abandons Finrod's appearance.
::
::Significant changes were made regarding Finrod's character and backstory.
::In Valinor, Finrod is shown using a dagger to retrieve Galadriel's damaged boat from the water. The elves did not possess weapons until the Unrest of the Noldor, where - at the urging of Melkor - the Noldor began forging arms in secret. The Silmarillion clearly states that these weapons were never used openly until Feanor drew a sword on his half-brother, Fingolfin. In the series, Finrod openly shows his dagger to the group of elven children while Galadriel's age makes it unlikely that this takes place during the Unrest.
::During his second appearance, Finrod is shown taking an oath of vengeance against Morgoth following the destruction of the Two Trees of Valinor. The scene is heavily modeled after the Oath of Feanor, but Finrod does not make any equivalent oath in the Silmarillion.
::The timing and manner of Finrod's death in the show conflicts with Tolkien's accounts. In both the Silmarillion and in the Appendices of The Lord of the Rings, Finrod is stated to have died saving Beren from a werewolf while the two were imprisoned by Sauron during the Quest for the Silmaril. These events occur partway through the First Age.
::In the Rings of Power, while no exact year is given, Finrod does not perish until after Morgoth's defeat, meaning that, in Amazon's continuity, Finrod survives the entirety of the First Age into the Second. Yet the show clearly states that the events of Beren and Luthien happened as a carved depiction of Luthien is shown in Lindon and mention is made of the two (up to this point) unions between Elf and Man. It also alludes to Finrod being killed by wolves with the claw marks on his body, though Galadriel's monologue establishes that it was Sauron who slew him.
::Finrod's surival also has potential repercussions for the story of Turin, as Nargothrond was deprived of his kingship following his death. For Finrod to make it to the Second Age he would either need to escape the Sacking of Nargothrond by Glaurung or these events simply never happened in Amazon's timeline.
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Talk:Finrod

2023-07-04T09:33:19Z

MendicantBias: /* Finrod: RE - Rings of Power */ Reply

==Portrayal in adaptations==
:(This topic has been moved here from [[Talk:Isildur]])
Also R.E. your comments on the Finrod page. I think you're being very loose here. Yes, Finrod is an Elf and the brother of Galadriel in the Amazon show, but that is the only way he resembles his book counterpart. They changed his death, included him in events the books tell us he did not participate in and changed his personality.

That you set such high standards for the movies but are willing to give Rings of Power so much wiggle room seems like a double standard. [[User:English Lady|English Lady]] ([[User talk:English Lady|talk]]) 15:50, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

:The statement that none of his material in Rings of Power can be found in the books is the only phrase I removed as I don't think we can factually say that. He also has golden hair as described in the books, and I think there were a lot of similarities with his [https://www.reddit.com/r/LOTR_on_Prime/comments/yc74m1/death_of_finrod_in_rings_of_power_has_books_roots/ death] that were derived from the books. [[User:Hyarion|Hyarion]] ([[User talk:Hyarion|talk]]) 16:12, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
::Such as? The series says he died "hunting Sauron". In the books he was killed by a werewolf saving Beren when accompanying him on his quest for the Silmaril.
::Can I say that this is determined by your personal preference for the series and hatred for the movies? You're willing to let things slide in one that you would not in the other? [[User:English Lady|English Lady]] ([[User talk:English Lady|talk]]) 17:18, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
::The series also shows him taking the Oath of Feanor which absolutely did not happen in the books. It shows all the sons of Feanor with black hair when we know at least two were redheads.
::Galadriel's hair was supposed to shine with the pure light of the 2 trees of Valinor, in the series she's just a dirty blonde with split ends. Hardly matches that description.
::The list goes on... very very little of the series is supported by the books. Why shouldn't people be allowed to point that out? [[User:English Lady|English Lady]] ([[User talk:English Lady|talk]]) 17:23, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
:::Not sure if you had a chance to read the post I linked, but [https://www.reddit.com/r/LOTR_on_Prime/comments/yc74m1/death_of_finrod_in_rings_of_power_has_books_roots/ this page] shows the subtle details of his death pretty well. (You might need to press a "Click to see spoiler" button to see the image. I enjoyed Peter Jackson's films a lot more than the Rings of Power, we just need to remember we're an encyclopedia, so saying blanket statements like "none of the material can be found in the books" is not accurate if there are ''any'' similarities. The Oath of Fëanor is listed as a difference between the books, so I'm not sure why you would think you aren't allowed to point that out? The hair color of Galadriel or the Sons of Fëanor isn't something relevant to this particular article. [[User:Hyarion|Hyarion]] ([[User talk:Hyarion|talk]]) 18:00, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
::::OK granted, I may have gone a bit OTT there, but I think when it comes to misconceptions the changes to Finrod are just as likely to influence perceptions of the character.
::::BTW since it might be relevant, I noticed there was no comprehensive listing of the differences to the books in the series overall, and when I listed some one of the mods removed all the content without explanation. I moved and rewrote some of it, and still there for now, but I do have reasons to doubt the objectivity of the person in question that I don't want to mention here. [[User:English Lady|English Lady]] ([[User talk:English Lady|talk]]) 19:03, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
:::::I'm not sure I understand why reverting [[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]]'s changes was necessary. Next time can you discuss things on a talk page before reverting someone's changes? Listing the episodes by season and episode number is in line with all our other articles, more helpful to the reader than the original air date, and it will continue to make sense once Season 2 is released, the dates you added don't even have a year. You've also introduced some grammatical mistakes and removed interwiki links that LorenzoCB had added. We appreciate your cooperation. We're all working together to achieve the same goal so we need to make sure we work as a team. [[User:Hyarion|Hyarion]] ([[User talk:Hyarion|talk]]) 20:44, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
::::::That was why I listed all the changes by Episode. I can add the number and air date if you like. Including year. I can also do grammar checks. However, removing all references to deviations from the lore on the grounds of a spelling error makes it appear as though the person doing it is are not being impartial and just don't want people to know the series is inacccurate. Spelling errors can be fixed, there is no reason to remove entire sections on that basis, especially when there are grammatical mistakes in some of Lorenzos pages. [[User:English Lady|English Lady]] ([[User talk:English Lady|talk]]) 20:57, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
:::::::If not mistaken, i think he reverted yiur edits because while doing this you removed a whole section. It is like vandalism. [[User:Sage|Sage]] ([[User talk:Sage|talk]]) 01:57, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
::::::::I then corrected those edits and restored the sub section, which was blank anyway.
::::::::They were still removed by him. Lorenzo is now saying that no section can be added to hightlight the lore changes and deviations from the source material in Rings of Power, even though sections have been added to the pages of the movies in which none of the content is referenced. This is misleading and depriving potential readers of valuable information because the personal bias of an Admin. Do you feel this is right? [[User:English Lady|English Lady]] ([[User talk:English Lady|talk]]) 07:27, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

== Finrod: RE - Rings of Power ==

A few discrepancies and cleaning up of the sections dedicated to Finrod's portrayal in Rings of Power. [[User:MendicantBias|MendicantBias]] ([[User talk:MendicantBias|talk]]) 06:21, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

:Hello! I wanted to give my thoughts regarding the formatting and content in this section, as I think it could very much use some improvement to bring it up to a higher standard of quality.
:I very much appreciate that the character's appearances are divided into his relevant episodes. That makes things a lot easier. Below is a copy of the first episode text alone as it exists at the time of this posting, along with my notes on changes that could be made for easier reading. Below that is my own suggested rewrite of the section for viewing.
:Galadriel recalls a memory of her brother during her childhood at the time of the Years of the Trees.
:[Could use some reworking and set up to divide Finrod's scenes. Also, I'm not certain on why this section is being labeled as "Galadriel's memories/recollections" when simply stating something along the lines of "Finrod appears entirely during the show's opening/prologue" or "Galadriel's monologue" is more clear in regards to what is happening in the show. Third, I'm unclear on why the term "Years of the Trees" is being used when the show does not make any such usage of the term. It should simply state "in Valinor".]
:In the memory, after some Elf children bully her and sink her paper swan ship, she attempts to attack one of them. However, Finrod (portrayed by Will Fletcher)
:[I'm not sure why the actor for Finrod is being stated here and in such a manner. A separate sentence at the beginning of the section should say "Finrod is portrayed by actor Will Fletcher in Amazon's The Rings of Power."]
:shows up just in time to prevent her from doing any harm. Not long after, Finrod is seen talking to Galadriel beneath a tree, where it is revealed that Galadriel had made the ship just as Finrod had taught her.
:["Not long after"? Are these not the same scene?]
:To which, Finrod asks her if she knows why ships float while stones cannot, and tells her, after a moment of silence, that stones look downwards towards the irresistible darkness of water while ships look upwards towards starlight, fighting against the darkness of water, whispering on things it would not know.
:[This feels like poor grammar. The sentence is excessively long, making it quite the run on.]
:Galadriel questions Finrod, saying that stars are reflected just as brightly within water and that it is hard to know which lights to follow, up or down. Upon thinking, Finrod whispers to her: "Sometimes we cannot know until we have touched the darkness". To this, Galadriel ponders that it sounds simple and Finrod tells her that many things are, but she must decide realize them for herself as he will not always be there to help. Not elaborating on this further, Finrod stands up and tells her that their parents are waiting for them, before walking over a hill to reveal the Two Trees.
:Later in Galadriel's recollections,
:[At this point this is a good spot to specify this as "Finrod's second scene" - though technically it is his third, as he is next shown taking the Oath of Feanor alongside other elves, which I noticed is omitted from the summary.]
:Finrod is seen in a battle shouting phrases in Quenya: "Valaron kalanen" ("By the light of the Valar!") and "Firuvantë" ("They will die!").
:Galadriel mentions that he vowed to destroy Sauron, Morgoth's sorcerer and lieutenant. Yet Sauron found and defeated Finrod first, marking his corpse with a red symbol, which not even the wisest Elves could decipher, causing Galadriel to take up her brother's vow and dagger for herself.
:[This doesn't specify that Galadriel takes the blade from Finrod's body, or properly make clear the transition between the battle scene and the next one. It also elaborates unnecessarily on details regarding the mark of Sauron.]
:Potenital rewrite:
:Finrod is portrayed by Actor Will Fletcher for Amazon's The Rings of Power Series and appears in two episodes.
:[Episode 1 summary.]
:Finrod's appearances this episode are exclusively in the show's opening prologue.
:His first scene takes place in Valinor where he breaks up a fight between the young Galadriel and other elf children after retrieving a paper boat made by Galadriel. Finrod pulls her aside and attempts to comfort Galadriel, posing a philosophical question to his sister: "Do you know why a ship floats, and a stone does not?"
:Finrod then proceeds to answer the metaphor for Galadriel (A ship looks up at the light while a stone looks down into the dark), to which she poses a question of her own regarding how one is to know which "lights" to follow. Finrod then leans in and whispers an answer, though that answer is kept hidden from the audience for this episode.
:Concluding their discussion, Finrod makes a point that Galadriel will not always have him around to explain these sort of things to her. He then tells her that their parents are waiting as he walks over a hill towards the Two Trees of Valinor.
:Finrod is next briefly seen taking an Oath alongside numerous other Elves in response to Morgoth's killing of the Two Trees of Valinor.
:Finrod is then shown in the midst of a battle with Orcs in Middle Earth, attempting to rally his troops while shouting phrases in Quenya: "Valaron kalanen" ("By the light of the Valar!") and "Firuvantë" ("They will die!").
:His final appearance in the prologue is atop his tomb, Galadriel's monologue mentioning that Finrod had died while pursuing Sauron after Morgoth's defeat. His body is shown to be clawed in numerous places and he had been branded with the Mark of Sauron. Galadriel then takes Finrod's dagger from his body to serve as a memento of her brother as she takes up his hunt for Sauron. [[User:MendicantBias|MendicantBias]] ([[User talk:MendicantBias|talk]]) 07:03, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
::Yes: also the present section on the page is misleading. It gives the impression that Finrod's "death at the hand of Sauron" is faithful to the books, when it is not. It also fails to the address the fact that the Appendices give us an accurate account of how he died consistent witht the Silmarillion, and so Amazon's rights cannot be used as to justify this change. It is in the material they have the rights to. [[User:English Lady|English Lady]] ([[User talk:English Lady|talk]]) 07:22, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
::Why don't you make those edits? [[User:English Lady|English Lady]] ([[User talk:English Lady|talk]]) 07:24, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
:I also went ahead and fixed the second episode's summary. Cut down on the direct quoting (this is a summary of Finrod's appearances, not a play-by-play), removed reference to the Glanduin (was never identified as such in the episode), clarified Sauron's identity and WHY Finrod appears (original only uses "Halbrand" when the show is being open about Sauron by this point), and fixed the summary to now reveal Finrod's "touch the darkness" quote here where it was relevant as opposed to the first episode where it wasn't disclosed. The entire summary has also been refined to be more presentable than the original form. [[User:MendicantBias|MendicantBias]] ([[User talk:MendicantBias|talk]]) 09:33, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

Finrod

2023-07-04T09:01:13Z

MendicantBias: /* Portrayal in adaptations */

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| name=Finrod Felagund
| image=[[File:Elena Kukanova - Finrod - First Encounter with Edain.jpg|250px]]
| caption="Finrod - First Encounter with Edain" by [[Elena Kukanova]]
| pronun=
| othernames=''Findaráto''/''Artafindë'' ([[Telerin|T]]/[[Quenya|Q]], [[Father-name|fn]]) ''[[Ingoldo]]'' ([[Quenya|Q]], [[Amilessë|mn]]) ''[[Nóm]]'' or ''Nómin'' ([[Taliska|T]]) ''Felakgundu'' ([[Khuzdul|K]])
| titles=[[King of Nargothrond]]
| position=
| location=[[Eldamar]]; [[Nargothrond]]
| affiliation=[[Quest for the Silmaril]]
| language=[[Quenya]], [[Telerin]], [[Sindarin]] and [[Taliska]]
| birth={{YT|1300}}
| birthlocation=[[Tirion]]
| rule={{FA|102}} - {{FA|465|n}}
| death={{FA|465}}
| deathlocation=[[Tol-in-Gaurhoth]]
| age=c. 2381 years<ref group="note">Years of the Sun. Each Year of the Tree is equal to 9.582 Years of the Sun, and the Years of the Trees ended in the year 1500.</ref>
| notablefor=
| house=[[House of Finarfin]]
| parentage=[[Finarfin]] & [[Eärwen]]
| siblings=[[Angrod]], [[Aegnor]] and [[Galadriel]]
| spouse=Lover of [[Amarië]]
| children=
| gender=Male
| height=
| hair=Golden
| eyes=
| clothing=[[Ring of Barahir]]
| weapons=
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{{Quote|King Finrod Felagund, fairest and most beloved of the [[house of Finwë]].|''[[Quenta Silmarillion]]'', "[[Of Beren and Lúthien]]"}}

'''Finrod''' was an [[Elves|Elven]] king of the [[Noldor]], eldest son of [[Finarfin]] and older brother to [[Angrod]], [[Aegnor]] and [[Galadriel]]. Finrod was like his father in his fair face and golden hair, and also in his noble and generous heart.

In [[Beleriand]], Finrod became the ruler of [[Nargothrond]], taking the [[Epessë|after-name]] of '''Felagund'''. He was a wise, just and powerful Elf, and a great traveller.<ref>[[Robert Foster]], ''[[The Complete Guide to Middle-earth]]'', p. 144</ref>

== History ==
Finrod was born in [[Eldamar]] in the [[Year of the Trees 1300]], the same as his cousin [[Turgon]].<ref>{{AA|85|note}}</ref> They were friends, and his beloved was [[Amarië]] of the [[Vanyar]].

Finrod was among those who opposed [[Fëanor]] and the [[Exile of the Noldor]]. However, when the Noldor were set to depart from [[Aman]], he joined them, for he would not be sundered from his friends and his people who were eager to go. Also, he had no wish to abandon his people to Fëanor's rule.<ref>{{S|Flight}}</ref>

=== Return of the Noldor ===
Finrod, along with his father, led the rear of the host along with many of the noblest and wisest of the Noldor; and often they looked behind them to see their fair city, especially Finrod, for he had to leave Amarië behind. With him, he brought along many treasures from [[Tirion]],<ref name=return>{{S|Return}}</ref> including [[Ring of Barahir|his Ring]].<ref name=beren>{{S|Beren}}</ref>

Finrod and his people did not participate in the [[Kinslaying at Alqualondë]]. While they were travelling up the coast of [[Araman]], the [[Valar|Vala]] [[Mandos]] appeared and pronounced the [[Doom of the Noldor]], and in that hour, Finarfin forsook the march and returned to [[Valinor]] with many of his people. However, Finrod and his siblings went forward still and led their people on the long and perilous march to [[Middle-earth]].

=== Life in Beleriand ===
After their victory in the [[Dagor-nuin-Giliath]], the Noldor started building their numerous realms. Finrod established the tower of [[Minas Tirith (Beleriand)|Minas Tirith]] on the island of [[Tol Sirion]]. Once, while journeying southward along the river [[Sirion]], Finrod and his friend [[Turgon]] encamped upon its banks. [[Ulmo]], coming up the river, laid a deep sleep upon them and heavy dreams; and it seemed to each that he was bidden to prepare for a day of evil, and to establish a retreat, lest [[Morgoth]] should burst from [[Angband]] and overthrow the armies of the North.

[[File:Mysilvergreen - Finrod Felagund.jpg|left|thumb|''Finrod Felagund'' by [[:Category:Images by Mysilvergreen|Mysilvergreen]]]]
Now on a time Finrod and his sister [[Galadriel]] were guests of King [[Thingol|Elu Thingol]], their kinsman in [[Doriath]]. There, Finrod told Thingol of his admiration for the halls of [[Menegroth]]; and Thingol spoke to him of the deep gorge of the river [[Narog]] and told him about the caves under the [[High Faroth]] in its deep western shore. Thus Finrod came to the [[Caverns of Narog]] and established there deep halls and armouries; and that stronghold was called [[Nargothrond]]. In this he was aided by the [[Dwarves]] of the [[Blue Mountains]], and Finrod rewarded them with many jewels from Valinor. In that time, the [[Nauglamír]] was made for him, the Necklace of the Dwarves. After Nargothrond was made, Finrod committed Minas Tirith to the keeping of [[Orodreth]], his nephew, and was referred to by the additional name of ''Felagund'', an honorific title given him by the Dwarves, meaning a "Maker of Caves".

The realm of Nargothrond extended to the sea, excluding the [[Falas]]. Finrod was a friend and ally of [[Círdan]], and had also built the tower [[Barad Nimras]] upon the cape.<ref>{{S|14}}</ref>

=== Encounter with Men ===
[[File:Steamey - Finrod, Beor and the Green-elves of Ossiriand.jpg|thumb|''Finrod, Beor and the Green-elves of Ossiriand'' by [[:Category:Images by Steamey|Steamy]]]]
When over three hundred years had passed since the Noldor came to Beleriand, Finrod journeyed east of Sirion and went hunting with [[Maglor]] and [[Maedhros]], two of the [[sons of Fëanor]]. But he wearied of the hunt and passed on alone towards the mountains of [[Ered Lindon]]. There, in the lands of [[Thargelion]], in [[East Beleriand]], Finrod was the first of the Noldor to come across [[Men]]. These were the kindred and followers of [[Bëor]] [[The Old]]. He went among them while they were sleeping and, picking up a harp which Bëor had laid aside, played music upon it such as the ears of men had not heard. When the men awoke and listened to his song, each thought that he was in some fair dream. He long stayed with them, learning [[Taliska|their language]] and teaching them [[Sindarin]]. He also intervened on behalf of the [[Laiquendi]] of [[Ossiriand]], who feared Men would destroy their home, and he got permission of [[Thingol]], who held rule over all [[Beleriand]], to guide the Men to [[Estolad]].<ref name=West>{{S|West}}</ref>

Finrod had a close friendship with [[Andreth]] of the [[House of Bëor]], whom he often visited during the [[Siege of Angband]] to converse with her on the matters of Elves and Men. One such conversation was written down and later known as ''[[Athrabeth Finrod ah Andreth]]''.

Finrod participated in the [[Dagor Bragollach]], fighting in the [[Fen of Serech]], when he was surrounded by [[Orcs]]. It was [[Barahir]] of the [[House of Bëor]] who saved his life, and Finrod swore an oath of abiding friendship and aid in every need to Barahir and all his kin. As a token he gave Barahir his ring, which became known as the [[Ring of Barahir]].<ref>{{S|Fingolfin}}</ref>

=== Quest for the Silmaril ===
[[File:Anke Eißmann - Finrod is reminded of his oath.jpeg|thumb|''Finrod is reminded of his oath'' by [[Anke Eißmann]]]]
When, ten years later, Barahir's son [[Beren]] came to Nargothrond seeking help, Finrod went with him on the [[Quest for the Silmaril]] to repay his debt. [[Celegorm]] and [[Curufin]], who were living in Nargothrond at the time, persuaded (using barely veiled threats related to their [[Oath of Fëanor|Oath]]) most of Nargothrond to stay behind. Only ten warriors, headed by one [[Edrahil]], were faithful and came with them. Beneath the [[Shadowy Mountains]] they came upon a company of [[Orcs]], and slew them all in their camp. They took their gear and weapons, and by the magic of Finrod, their own forms and faces were changed to the likeness of Orcs. Thus disguised, they came far upon their northward road between [[Ered Wethrin]] and the highlands of [[Taur-nu-Fuin (Dorthonion)|Taur-nu-Fuin]]. However, the twelve were captured and imprisoned by [[Sauron]] on [[Tol-in-Gaurhoth]] ("Isle of Werewolves").<ref name=beren></ref>

[[File:KuraiGeijutsu - And Finrod fell before the Throne.jpg|thumb|''And Finrod fell before the Throne'' by [[:Category:Images by KuraiGeijutsu|Kurai Geijutsu]]]]

Thus befell the contest of Finrod and Sauron. Finrod strove with Sauron in songs of power, and the power of the Elven King was very great. But in the end, Sauron had the mastery. It is told in the ''[[Lay of Leithian]]'':
{{blockquote|He chanted a song of wizardry, 
Of piercing, opening, of treachery, 
Revealing, uncovering, betraying. 
Then sudden Felagund there swaying 
sang in answer a song of staying, 
Resisting, battling against power, 
Of secrets kept, strength like a tower, 
And trust unbroken, freedom, escape; 
Of changing and of shifting shape, 
Of snares eluded, broken traps, 
The prison opening, the chain that snaps, 
Backwards and forwards swayed their song. 
Reeling and foundering, as ever more strong 
The chanting swelled, Felagund fought, 
And all the magic and might he brought, 
Of Elvenesse into his words. 
Softly in the gloom they heard the birds 
Singing afar in Nargothrond, 
The sighing of the sea beyond, 
Beyond the western world, on sand, 
On sand of pearls in Elvenland. 
Then the gloom gathered; darkness growing 
In Valinor, the red blood flowing 
Beside the sea, where the Noldor slew 
The Foamriders, and stealing drew 
Their white ships with their white sails 
From lamplit havens. The wind wails, 
The wolf howls. The ravens flee. 
The ice mutters in the mouths of the sea. 
The captives sad in Angband mourn, 
Thunder rumbles, the fires burn- 
And Finrod fell before the throne.|[[Lay of Leithian Canto VII|Canto VII]], vv. 2173-2205}}

[[File:Anke Eißmann - Death of Finrod Felagund.jpeg|thumb|''Death of Finrod Felagund'' by [[Anke Eißmann]]]]
Then Sauron stripped from them their disguise, but though their kinds were revealed, he could not discover their names or their purposes.

Sauron imprisoned them and one by one they were killed by werewolves until only Beren and Felagund were left, but none of the companions betrayed them. When the werewolf came to kill Beren, Felagund put forth all his power and burst his bonds. He wrestled with the werewolf, and slew it with his hands and teeth. Yet he himself was mortally wounded, and he died in the dark, in Tol-in-Gaurhoth, whose great tower he himself had built. Thus King Finrod Felagund, the fairest and most beloved of the house of [[Finwë]], redeemed his oath.

=== Reincarnation ===
[[File:Donato Giancola - Lore.jpeg|thumb|An Elf loremaster ponders at a mural of Finrod leading his House in battle. Art by [[Donato Giancola]]]]
Because of Finrod's noble actions in life, and his reluctance to journey to Middle-earth, he was rehoused after only a short time. He and [[Glorfindel]] were the only elves who were known to have been reincarnated. It is noted in the ''Lay of Leithian'' that Finrod was soon allowed to return to life in Valinor, and "now dwells with Amarië.”<ref name="GA-2">{{GA|180}}</ref> It is also noted in ''[[The Silmarillion]]'' that "''Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in [[Eldamar]]''".<ref name=beren>{{S|Beren}}</ref>

== Etymology ==
{{seealso|#Other versions of the legendarium}}
{{Pronounce|Finrod Felagund.mp3|Ardamir}}
The name ''Finrod'' is the [[Sindarin]] form of his [[father-name]] '''''Findaráto''''' ("[Golden-]Haired Champion"). It is possible he and his brother [[Angrod]] were first called ''[[Aráto]]'', and later differentiated adding ''find-'', referred to the golden hair derived from [[Indis]]. This name was of [[Telerin]] origin, so the proper [[Quenya]] form would be '''''Artafindë'''''.<ref name=Finwe>{{PM|Finwe}}</ref>{{rp|346-347}}

===Felagund===
'''''Felagund''''' was an [[epessë]] given to him by the [[Dwarves]] that expanded the caves of Nargothrond, and meant "Hewer of Caves". It is not Sindarin, but rather [[Sindarinized]] [[Khuzdul]], from '''''Felakgundu'''''. The name was Eldarized by other as '''''Felagon''''' (in relation with Fin''gon'', Tur''gon'').<ref>{{PM|Felagund}}, p. 352</ref>

While revising his [[Elvish]] languages in later years, [[Tolkien]] reinterpreted ''Felagund'' as "den-dweller, brock, badger", from [[Sindarin]] ''fela'', which was used for dens made by wild animals or temporary dwellings of wandering folks, unrelated to big carved caves. The west bank of Narog had many dens of badgers, some of them occupied by [[Petty-dwarves]]. It was thus probable that ''Felagund'' was actually given by the [[Sons of Fëanor]] as a mockery to Finrod, and transmitted by the Dwarves.<ref>{{NM|P3vii}}, p. 304</ref>

An early etymology for ''Felagund'' was "Lord of Caves" in [[Noldorin]], from ''[[fela]]'' ("caverns") + ''[[cunn]]'' ("prince").<ref>{{LR|P3}}, entries "KUNDU", "PHELEG"</ref>

==Other names==
His [[Amilessë|mother-name]] was '''''[[Ingoldo]]''''', which was also the mother-name of his father Finarfin. It meant "''the'' Ñoldo", 'one-eminent of the kindred' which is in simpler words 'the wise'. It was a name used by his brothers and sister, who loved him.<ref name=Finwe>{{PM|Finwe}}</ref>{{rp|346, 360}}

Finrod was also called '''''[[Nóm]]''''' ("Wisdom") by [[Bëor]] and his [[House of Bëor|people]].<ref name=West>{{S|West}}</ref> His other titles include "the Faithful", "the Friend of Men", "[[King of Nargothrond]]", "[[Lord of Nargothrond]]".<ref>{{S|Index}}, entry "Finrod"</ref><ref name=":0">[[J.R.R. Tolkien]], ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]'', [[Appendix B]] "The Tale of Years". </ref>

He was often called by the Eldar '''''Edennil''''' or '''''Atandil''''', which means "Friend of Men" in [[Sindarin]] and [[Quenya]] respectively.<ref>{{MR|P4k}}, p. 349 (cf. p. 306)</ref> A variant for ''Atandil'' was ''Firindil''.<ref>{{VT|41c}}, p. 14</ref>

== Genealogy ==
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== Other versions of the legendarium ==
In earlier versions of the Middle-earth myths, and when ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]'' was published, the name '''Finrod''' was given to the character later known as [[Finarfin]]. Finrod Felagund was then named '''[[Inglor Felagund]]'''. However, that changed in later drafts, and the character who had the name [[Gildor Inglorion]], in ''The Lord of the Rings'', was unrelated to Finrod despite having a name that means Gildor son of Inglor. Finrod was childless and unmarried during the events of ''The Silmarillion'' because his lover, Amarië, remained in Valinor.<ref>{{S|15}}</ref>

In the published ''[[The Silmarillion]]'', Orodreth is Finrod's brother: this was an editorial decision by [[Christopher Tolkien]] and an admitted mistake. Orodreth was actually the son of Angrod and thus Finrod's nephew.

==Portrayal in adaptations==
[[File:The Rings of Power (TV series) - Finrod.jpg|thumb|[[Will Fletcher]] as Finrod in ''[[The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power]]'']]

===Television===
'''2022: ''[[The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power]]'', Season One:'''

: Finrod is portrayed by actor Will Fletcher for Amazon's The Rings of Power series and appears in two episodes.
: '''Episode 1: ''[[A Shadow of the Past]]'''''
: Finrod's appearances this episode are exclusively in the show's opening prologue.
: His first scene takes place in Valinor where he breaks up a fight between the young Galadriel and other elf children after retrieving a paper boat made by Galadriel. Finrod pulls her aside and attempts to comfort Galadriel, posing a philosophical question to his sister: "Do you know why a ship floats, and a stone does not?"
: Finrod then proceeds to answer the metaphor for Galadriel (A ship looks up at the light while a stone looks down into the dark), to which she poses a question of her own regarding how one is to know which "lights" to follow. Finrod then leans in and whispers an answer, though that answer is kept hidden from the audience for this episode.
: Concluding their discussion, Finrod makes a point that Galadriel will not always have him around to explain these sort of things to her. He then tells her that their parents are waiting as he walks over a hill towards the Two Trees of Valinor.
: Finrod is next briefly seen taking an oath alongside numerous other Elves in response to Morgoth's killing of the Two Trees of Valinor.
: Finrod is then shown in the midst of a battle with Orcs in Middle Earth, attempting to rally his troops while shouting phrases in Quenya: "Valaron kalanen" ("By the light of the Valar!") and "Firuvantë" ("They will die!").
: His final appearance in the prologue is atop his tomb, Galadriel's monologue mentioning that Finrod had died while pursuing Sauron after Morgoth's defeat. His body is shown to be clawed in numerous places and he had been branded with the Mark of Sauron. Galadriel then takes Finrod's dagger from his body to serve as a memento of her brother as she takes up his hunt for Sauron
: '''Episode 8: ''[[Alloyed]]'':'''
: Sauron briefly takes the form of Finrod upon entering Galadriel's mind after she confronts him in Eregion, marking the character's second appearance. The two have a brief back and forth where we learn what Finrod whispered to Galadriel in the prologue: "Sometimes, to find the light, we must first touch the darkness."
: Sauron tries to persuade Galadriel of his intentions using Finrod's form but is rejected, upon which he changes tactics and abandons Finrod's appearance.
::[[Amazon Studios]]'s rights to Finrod's character were limited to his mention in the ''[[Appendices]]'', so the series made significant changes and additions to his story, including showing him taking [[Oath of Fëanor|an oath against Morgoth]] before he left Valinor, and his death at the hands of Sauron, which inspires Galadriel's revenge. It is worth noting that Finrod's death saving Beren is mentioned in ''Appendix B: The Tale of Years'', and so Amazon could have used that material, but still opted to change it to have him dying in pursuit of Sauron.<ref name=":0" /> Finrod's original personality was particularly wise, very respectful and reverent towards the Valar, rather than as a rebel who advises people to "touch the darkness".
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Finrod

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MendicantBias: /* Portrayal in adaptations */

{{noldor infobox
| name=Finrod Felagund
| image=[[File:Elena Kukanova - Finrod - First Encounter with Edain.jpg|250px]]
| caption="Finrod - First Encounter with Edain" by [[Elena Kukanova]]
| pronun=
| othernames=''Findaráto''/''Artafindë'' ([[Telerin|T]]/[[Quenya|Q]], [[Father-name|fn]]) ''[[Ingoldo]]'' ([[Quenya|Q]], [[Amilessë|mn]]) ''[[Nóm]]'' or ''Nómin'' ([[Taliska|T]]) ''Felakgundu'' ([[Khuzdul|K]])
| titles=[[King of Nargothrond]]
| position=
| location=[[Eldamar]]; [[Nargothrond]]
| affiliation=[[Quest for the Silmaril]]
| language=[[Quenya]], [[Telerin]], [[Sindarin]] and [[Taliska]]
| birth={{YT|1300}}
| birthlocation=[[Tirion]]
| rule={{FA|102}} - {{FA|465|n}}
| death={{FA|465}}
| deathlocation=[[Tol-in-Gaurhoth]]
| age=c. 2381 years<ref group="note">Years of the Sun. Each Year of the Tree is equal to 9.582 Years of the Sun, and the Years of the Trees ended in the year 1500.</ref>
| notablefor=
| house=[[House of Finarfin]]
| parentage=[[Finarfin]] & [[Eärwen]]
| siblings=[[Angrod]], [[Aegnor]] and [[Galadriel]]
| spouse=Lover of [[Amarië]]
| children=
| gender=Male
| height=
| hair=Golden
| eyes=
| clothing=[[Ring of Barahir]]
| weapons=
| steed=
}}

{{Quote|King Finrod Felagund, fairest and most beloved of the [[house of Finwë]].|''[[Quenta Silmarillion]]'', "[[Of Beren and Lúthien]]"}}

'''Finrod''' was an [[Elves|Elven]] king of the [[Noldor]], eldest son of [[Finarfin]] and older brother to [[Angrod]], [[Aegnor]] and [[Galadriel]]. Finrod was like his father in his fair face and golden hair, and also in his noble and generous heart.

In [[Beleriand]], Finrod became the ruler of [[Nargothrond]], taking the [[Epessë|after-name]] of '''Felagund'''. He was a wise, just and powerful Elf, and a great traveller.<ref>[[Robert Foster]], ''[[The Complete Guide to Middle-earth]]'', p. 144</ref>

== History ==
Finrod was born in [[Eldamar]] in the [[Year of the Trees 1300]], the same as his cousin [[Turgon]].<ref>{{AA|85|note}}</ref> They were friends, and his beloved was [[Amarië]] of the [[Vanyar]].

Finrod was among those who opposed [[Fëanor]] and the [[Exile of the Noldor]]. However, when the Noldor were set to depart from [[Aman]], he joined them, for he would not be sundered from his friends and his people who were eager to go. Also, he had no wish to abandon his people to Fëanor's rule.<ref>{{S|Flight}}</ref>

=== Return of the Noldor ===
Finrod, along with his father, led the rear of the host along with many of the noblest and wisest of the Noldor; and often they looked behind them to see their fair city, especially Finrod, for he had to leave Amarië behind. With him, he brought along many treasures from [[Tirion]],<ref name=return>{{S|Return}}</ref> including [[Ring of Barahir|his Ring]].<ref name=beren>{{S|Beren}}</ref>

Finrod and his people did not participate in the [[Kinslaying at Alqualondë]]. While they were travelling up the coast of [[Araman]], the [[Valar|Vala]] [[Mandos]] appeared and pronounced the [[Doom of the Noldor]], and in that hour, Finarfin forsook the march and returned to [[Valinor]] with many of his people. However, Finrod and his siblings went forward still and led their people on the long and perilous march to [[Middle-earth]].

=== Life in Beleriand ===
After their victory in the [[Dagor-nuin-Giliath]], the Noldor started building their numerous realms. Finrod established the tower of [[Minas Tirith (Beleriand)|Minas Tirith]] on the island of [[Tol Sirion]]. Once, while journeying southward along the river [[Sirion]], Finrod and his friend [[Turgon]] encamped upon its banks. [[Ulmo]], coming up the river, laid a deep sleep upon them and heavy dreams; and it seemed to each that he was bidden to prepare for a day of evil, and to establish a retreat, lest [[Morgoth]] should burst from [[Angband]] and overthrow the armies of the North.

[[File:Mysilvergreen - Finrod Felagund.jpg|left|thumb|''Finrod Felagund'' by [[:Category:Images by Mysilvergreen|Mysilvergreen]]]]
Now on a time Finrod and his sister [[Galadriel]] were guests of King [[Thingol|Elu Thingol]], their kinsman in [[Doriath]]. There, Finrod told Thingol of his admiration for the halls of [[Menegroth]]; and Thingol spoke to him of the deep gorge of the river [[Narog]] and told him about the caves under the [[High Faroth]] in its deep western shore. Thus Finrod came to the [[Caverns of Narog]] and established there deep halls and armouries; and that stronghold was called [[Nargothrond]]. In this he was aided by the [[Dwarves]] of the [[Blue Mountains]], and Finrod rewarded them with many jewels from Valinor. In that time, the [[Nauglamír]] was made for him, the Necklace of the Dwarves. After Nargothrond was made, Finrod committed Minas Tirith to the keeping of [[Orodreth]], his nephew, and was referred to by the additional name of ''Felagund'', an honorific title given him by the Dwarves, meaning a "Maker of Caves".

The realm of Nargothrond extended to the sea, excluding the [[Falas]]. Finrod was a friend and ally of [[Círdan]], and had also built the tower [[Barad Nimras]] upon the cape.<ref>{{S|14}}</ref>

=== Encounter with Men ===
[[File:Steamey - Finrod, Beor and the Green-elves of Ossiriand.jpg|thumb|''Finrod, Beor and the Green-elves of Ossiriand'' by [[:Category:Images by Steamey|Steamy]]]]
When over three hundred years had passed since the Noldor came to Beleriand, Finrod journeyed east of Sirion and went hunting with [[Maglor]] and [[Maedhros]], two of the [[sons of Fëanor]]. But he wearied of the hunt and passed on alone towards the mountains of [[Ered Lindon]]. There, in the lands of [[Thargelion]], in [[East Beleriand]], Finrod was the first of the Noldor to come across [[Men]]. These were the kindred and followers of [[Bëor]] [[The Old]]. He went among them while they were sleeping and, picking up a harp which Bëor had laid aside, played music upon it such as the ears of men had not heard. When the men awoke and listened to his song, each thought that he was in some fair dream. He long stayed with them, learning [[Taliska|their language]] and teaching them [[Sindarin]]. He also intervened on behalf of the [[Laiquendi]] of [[Ossiriand]], who feared Men would destroy their home, and he got permission of [[Thingol]], who held rule over all [[Beleriand]], to guide the Men to [[Estolad]].<ref name=West>{{S|West}}</ref>

Finrod had a close friendship with [[Andreth]] of the [[House of Bëor]], whom he often visited during the [[Siege of Angband]] to converse with her on the matters of Elves and Men. One such conversation was written down and later known as ''[[Athrabeth Finrod ah Andreth]]''.

Finrod participated in the [[Dagor Bragollach]], fighting in the [[Fen of Serech]], when he was surrounded by [[Orcs]]. It was [[Barahir]] of the [[House of Bëor]] who saved his life, and Finrod swore an oath of abiding friendship and aid in every need to Barahir and all his kin. As a token he gave Barahir his ring, which became known as the [[Ring of Barahir]].<ref>{{S|Fingolfin}}</ref>

=== Quest for the Silmaril ===
[[File:Anke Eißmann - Finrod is reminded of his oath.jpeg|thumb|''Finrod is reminded of his oath'' by [[Anke Eißmann]]]]
When, ten years later, Barahir's son [[Beren]] came to Nargothrond seeking help, Finrod went with him on the [[Quest for the Silmaril]] to repay his debt. [[Celegorm]] and [[Curufin]], who were living in Nargothrond at the time, persuaded (using barely veiled threats related to their [[Oath of Fëanor|Oath]]) most of Nargothrond to stay behind. Only ten warriors, headed by one [[Edrahil]], were faithful and came with them. Beneath the [[Shadowy Mountains]] they came upon a company of [[Orcs]], and slew them all in their camp. They took their gear and weapons, and by the magic of Finrod, their own forms and faces were changed to the likeness of Orcs. Thus disguised, they came far upon their northward road between [[Ered Wethrin]] and the highlands of [[Taur-nu-Fuin (Dorthonion)|Taur-nu-Fuin]]. However, the twelve were captured and imprisoned by [[Sauron]] on [[Tol-in-Gaurhoth]] ("Isle of Werewolves").<ref name=beren></ref>

[[File:KuraiGeijutsu - And Finrod fell before the Throne.jpg|thumb|''And Finrod fell before the Throne'' by [[:Category:Images by KuraiGeijutsu|Kurai Geijutsu]]]]

Thus befell the contest of Finrod and Sauron. Finrod strove with Sauron in songs of power, and the power of the Elven King was very great. But in the end, Sauron had the mastery. It is told in the ''[[Lay of Leithian]]'':
{{blockquote|He chanted a song of wizardry, 
Of piercing, opening, of treachery, 
Revealing, uncovering, betraying. 
Then sudden Felagund there swaying 
sang in answer a song of staying, 
Resisting, battling against power, 
Of secrets kept, strength like a tower, 
And trust unbroken, freedom, escape; 
Of changing and of shifting shape, 
Of snares eluded, broken traps, 
The prison opening, the chain that snaps, 
Backwards and forwards swayed their song. 
Reeling and foundering, as ever more strong 
The chanting swelled, Felagund fought, 
And all the magic and might he brought, 
Of Elvenesse into his words. 
Softly in the gloom they heard the birds 
Singing afar in Nargothrond, 
The sighing of the sea beyond, 
Beyond the western world, on sand, 
On sand of pearls in Elvenland. 
Then the gloom gathered; darkness growing 
In Valinor, the red blood flowing 
Beside the sea, where the Noldor slew 
The Foamriders, and stealing drew 
Their white ships with their white sails 
From lamplit havens. The wind wails, 
The wolf howls. The ravens flee. 
The ice mutters in the mouths of the sea. 
The captives sad in Angband mourn, 
Thunder rumbles, the fires burn- 
And Finrod fell before the throne.|[[Lay of Leithian Canto VII|Canto VII]], vv. 2173-2205}}

[[File:Anke Eißmann - Death of Finrod Felagund.jpeg|thumb|''Death of Finrod Felagund'' by [[Anke Eißmann]]]]
Then Sauron stripped from them their disguise, but though their kinds were revealed, he could not discover their names or their purposes.

Sauron imprisoned them and one by one they were killed by werewolves until only Beren and Felagund were left, but none of the companions betrayed them. When the werewolf came to kill Beren, Felagund put forth all his power and burst his bonds. He wrestled with the werewolf, and slew it with his hands and teeth. Yet he himself was mortally wounded, and he died in the dark, in Tol-in-Gaurhoth, whose great tower he himself had built. Thus King Finrod Felagund, the fairest and most beloved of the house of [[Finwë]], redeemed his oath.

=== Reincarnation ===
[[File:Donato Giancola - Lore.jpeg|thumb|An Elf loremaster ponders at a mural of Finrod leading his House in battle. Art by [[Donato Giancola]]]]
Because of Finrod's noble actions in life, and his reluctance to journey to Middle-earth, he was rehoused after only a short time. He and [[Glorfindel]] were the only elves who were known to have been reincarnated. It is noted in the ''Lay of Leithian'' that Finrod was soon allowed to return to life in Valinor, and "now dwells with Amarië.”<ref name="GA-2">{{GA|180}}</ref> It is also noted in ''[[The Silmarillion]]'' that "''Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in [[Eldamar]]''".<ref name=beren>{{S|Beren}}</ref>

== Etymology ==
{{seealso|#Other versions of the legendarium}}
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The name ''Finrod'' is the [[Sindarin]] form of his [[father-name]] '''''Findaráto''''' ("[Golden-]Haired Champion"). It is possible he and his brother [[Angrod]] were first called ''[[Aráto]]'', and later differentiated adding ''find-'', referred to the golden hair derived from [[Indis]]. This name was of [[Telerin]] origin, so the proper [[Quenya]] form would be '''''Artafindë'''''.<ref name=Finwe>{{PM|Finwe}}</ref>{{rp|346-347}}

===Felagund===
'''''Felagund''''' was an [[epessë]] given to him by the [[Dwarves]] that expanded the caves of Nargothrond, and meant "Hewer of Caves". It is not Sindarin, but rather [[Sindarinized]] [[Khuzdul]], from '''''Felakgundu'''''. The name was Eldarized by other as '''''Felagon''''' (in relation with Fin''gon'', Tur''gon'').<ref>{{PM|Felagund}}, p. 352</ref>

While revising his [[Elvish]] languages in later years, [[Tolkien]] reinterpreted ''Felagund'' as "den-dweller, brock, badger", from [[Sindarin]] ''fela'', which was used for dens made by wild animals or temporary dwellings of wandering folks, unrelated to big carved caves. The west bank of Narog had many dens of badgers, some of them occupied by [[Petty-dwarves]]. It was thus probable that ''Felagund'' was actually given by the [[Sons of Fëanor]] as a mockery to Finrod, and transmitted by the Dwarves.<ref>{{NM|P3vii}}, p. 304</ref>

An early etymology for ''Felagund'' was "Lord of Caves" in [[Noldorin]], from ''[[fela]]'' ("caverns") + ''[[cunn]]'' ("prince").<ref>{{LR|P3}}, entries "KUNDU", "PHELEG"</ref>

==Other names==
His [[Amilessë|mother-name]] was '''''[[Ingoldo]]''''', which was also the mother-name of his father Finarfin. It meant "''the'' Ñoldo", 'one-eminent of the kindred' which is in simpler words 'the wise'. It was a name used by his brothers and sister, who loved him.<ref name=Finwe>{{PM|Finwe}}</ref>{{rp|346, 360}}

Finrod was also called '''''[[Nóm]]''''' ("Wisdom") by [[Bëor]] and his [[House of Bëor|people]].<ref name=West>{{S|West}}</ref> His other titles include "the Faithful", "the Friend of Men", "[[King of Nargothrond]]", "[[Lord of Nargothrond]]".<ref>{{S|Index}}, entry "Finrod"</ref><ref name=":0">[[J.R.R. Tolkien]], ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]'', [[Appendix B]] "The Tale of Years". </ref>

He was often called by the Eldar '''''Edennil''''' or '''''Atandil''''', which means "Friend of Men" in [[Sindarin]] and [[Quenya]] respectively.<ref>{{MR|P4k}}, p. 349 (cf. p. 306)</ref> A variant for ''Atandil'' was ''Firindil''.<ref>{{VT|41c}}, p. 14</ref>

== Genealogy ==
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== Other versions of the legendarium ==
In earlier versions of the Middle-earth myths, and when ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]'' was published, the name '''Finrod''' was given to the character later known as [[Finarfin]]. Finrod Felagund was then named '''[[Inglor Felagund]]'''. However, that changed in later drafts, and the character who had the name [[Gildor Inglorion]], in ''The Lord of the Rings'', was unrelated to Finrod despite having a name that means Gildor son of Inglor. Finrod was childless and unmarried during the events of ''The Silmarillion'' because his lover, Amarië, remained in Valinor.<ref>{{S|15}}</ref>

In the published ''[[The Silmarillion]]'', Orodreth is Finrod's brother: this was an editorial decision by [[Christopher Tolkien]] and an admitted mistake. Orodreth was actually the son of Angrod and thus Finrod's nephew.

==Portrayal in adaptations==
[[File:The Rings of Power (TV series) - Finrod.jpg|thumb|[[Will Fletcher]] as Finrod in ''[[The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power]]'']]

===Television===
'''2022: ''[[The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power]]'', Season One:'''

: Finrod is portrayed by actor Will Fletcher for Amazon's The Rings of Power series and appears in two episodes.
: '''Episode 1: ''[[A Shadow of the Past]]'''''
: Finrod's appearances this episode are exclusively in the show's opening prologue.
: His first scene takes place in Valinor where he breaks up a fight between the young Galadriel and other elf children after retrieving a paper boat made by Galadriel. Finrod pulls her aside and attempts to comfort Galadriel, posing a philosophical question to his sister: "Do you know why a ship floats, and a stone does not?"
: Finrod then proceeds to answer the metaphor for Galadriel (A ship looks up at the light while a stone looks down into the dark), to which she poses a question of her own regarding how one is to know which "lights" to follow. Finrod then leans in and whispers an answer, though that answer is kept hidden from the audience for this episode.
: Concluding their discussion, Finrod makes a point that Galadriel will not always have him around to explain these sort of things to her. He then tells her that their parents are waiting as he walks over a hill towards the Two Trees of Valinor.
: Finrod is next briefly seen taking an oath alongside numerous other Elves in response to Morgoth's killing of the Two Trees of Valinor.
: Finrod is then shown in the midst of a battle with Orcs in Middle Earth, attempting to rally his troops while shouting phrases in Quenya: "Valaron kalanen" ("By the light of the Valar!") and "Firuvantë" ("They will die!").
: His final appearance in the prologue is atop his tomb, Galadriel's monologue mentioning that Finrod had died while pursuing Sauron after Morgoth's defeat. His body is shown to be clawed in numerous places and he had been branded with the Mark of Sauron. Galadriel then takes Finrod's dagger from his body to serve as a memento of her brother as she takes up his hunt for Sauron
: '''Episode 8: ''[[Alloyed]]'':'''
::Sauron briefly takes the form of Finrod upon entering Galadriel's mind after she confronts him in Eregion, marking the character's second appearance. The two have a brief back and forth where we learn what Finrod whispered to Galadriel in the prologue: "Sometimes, to find the light, we must first touch the darkness."
::Sauron tries to persuade Galadriel of his intentions using Finrod's form but is rejected, upon which he changes tactics and abandons Finrod's appearance. [[Amazon Studios]]'s rights to Finrod's character were limited to his mention in the ''[[Appendices]]'', so the series made significant changes and additions to his story, including showing him taking [[Oath of Fëanor|an oath against Morgoth]] before he left Valinor, and his death at the hands of Sauron, which inspires Galadriel's revenge. It is worth noting that Finrod's death saving Beren is mentioned in ''Appendix B: The Tale of Years'', and so Amazon could have used that material, but still opted to change it to have him dying in pursuit of Sauron.<ref name=":0" /> Finrod's original personality was particularly wise, very respectful and reverent towards the Valar, rather than as a rebel who advises people to "touch the darkness".
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| image=[[File:Elena Kukanova - Finrod - First Encounter with Edain.jpg|250px]]
| caption="Finrod - First Encounter with Edain" by [[Elena Kukanova]]
| pronun=
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| location=[[Eldamar]]; [[Nargothrond]]
| affiliation=[[Quest for the Silmaril]]
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| birthlocation=[[Tirion]]
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| death={{FA|465}}
| deathlocation=[[Tol-in-Gaurhoth]]
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| house=[[House of Finarfin]]
| parentage=[[Finarfin]] & [[Eärwen]]
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| spouse=Lover of [[Amarië]]
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{{Quote|King Finrod Felagund, fairest and most beloved of the [[house of Finwë]].|''[[Quenta Silmarillion]]'', "[[Of Beren and Lúthien]]"}}

'''Finrod''' was an [[Elves|Elven]] king of the [[Noldor]], eldest son of [[Finarfin]] and older brother to [[Angrod]], [[Aegnor]] and [[Galadriel]]. Finrod was like his father in his fair face and golden hair, and also in his noble and generous heart.

In [[Beleriand]], Finrod became the ruler of [[Nargothrond]], taking the [[Epessë|after-name]] of '''Felagund'''. He was a wise, just and powerful Elf, and a great traveller.<ref>[[Robert Foster]], ''[[The Complete Guide to Middle-earth]]'', p. 144</ref>

== History ==
Finrod was born in [[Eldamar]] in the [[Year of the Trees 1300]], the same as his cousin [[Turgon]].<ref>{{AA|85|note}}</ref> They were friends, and his beloved was [[Amarië]] of the [[Vanyar]].

Finrod was among those who opposed [[Fëanor]] and the [[Exile of the Noldor]]. However, when the Noldor were set to depart from [[Aman]], he joined them, for he would not be sundered from his friends and his people who were eager to go. Also, he had no wish to abandon his people to Fëanor's rule.<ref>{{S|Flight}}</ref>

=== Return of the Noldor ===
Finrod, along with his father, led the rear of the host along with many of the noblest and wisest of the Noldor; and often they looked behind them to see their fair city, especially Finrod, for he had to leave Amarië behind. With him, he brought along many treasures from [[Tirion]],<ref name=return>{{S|Return}}</ref> including [[Ring of Barahir|his Ring]].<ref name=beren>{{S|Beren}}</ref>

Finrod and his people did not participate in the [[Kinslaying at Alqualondë]]. While they were travelling up the coast of [[Araman]], the [[Valar|Vala]] [[Mandos]] appeared and pronounced the [[Doom of the Noldor]], and in that hour, Finarfin forsook the march and returned to [[Valinor]] with many of his people. However, Finrod and his siblings went forward still and led their people on the long and perilous march to [[Middle-earth]].

=== Life in Beleriand ===
After their victory in the [[Dagor-nuin-Giliath]], the Noldor started building their numerous realms. Finrod established the tower of [[Minas Tirith (Beleriand)|Minas Tirith]] on the island of [[Tol Sirion]]. Once, while journeying southward along the river [[Sirion]], Finrod and his friend [[Turgon]] encamped upon its banks. [[Ulmo]], coming up the river, laid a deep sleep upon them and heavy dreams; and it seemed to each that he was bidden to prepare for a day of evil, and to establish a retreat, lest [[Morgoth]] should burst from [[Angband]] and overthrow the armies of the North.

[[File:Mysilvergreen - Finrod Felagund.jpg|left|thumb|''Finrod Felagund'' by [[:Category:Images by Mysilvergreen|Mysilvergreen]]]]
Now on a time Finrod and his sister [[Galadriel]] were guests of King [[Thingol|Elu Thingol]], their kinsman in [[Doriath]]. There, Finrod told Thingol of his admiration for the halls of [[Menegroth]]; and Thingol spoke to him of the deep gorge of the river [[Narog]] and told him about the caves under the [[High Faroth]] in its deep western shore. Thus Finrod came to the [[Caverns of Narog]] and established there deep halls and armouries; and that stronghold was called [[Nargothrond]]. In this he was aided by the [[Dwarves]] of the [[Blue Mountains]], and Finrod rewarded them with many jewels from Valinor. In that time, the [[Nauglamír]] was made for him, the Necklace of the Dwarves. After Nargothrond was made, Finrod committed Minas Tirith to the keeping of [[Orodreth]], his nephew, and was referred to by the additional name of ''Felagund'', an honorific title given him by the Dwarves, meaning a "Maker of Caves".

The realm of Nargothrond extended to the sea, excluding the [[Falas]]. Finrod was a friend and ally of [[Círdan]], and had also built the tower [[Barad Nimras]] upon the cape.<ref>{{S|14}}</ref>

=== Encounter with Men ===
[[File:Steamey - Finrod, Beor and the Green-elves of Ossiriand.jpg|thumb|''Finrod, Beor and the Green-elves of Ossiriand'' by [[:Category:Images by Steamey|Steamy]]]]
When over three hundred years had passed since the Noldor came to Beleriand, Finrod journeyed east of Sirion and went hunting with [[Maglor]] and [[Maedhros]], two of the [[sons of Fëanor]]. But he wearied of the hunt and passed on alone towards the mountains of [[Ered Lindon]]. There, in the lands of [[Thargelion]], in [[East Beleriand]], Finrod was the first of the Noldor to come across [[Men]]. These were the kindred and followers of [[Bëor]] [[The Old]]. He went among them while they were sleeping and, picking up a harp which Bëor had laid aside, played music upon it such as the ears of men had not heard. When the men awoke and listened to his song, each thought that he was in some fair dream. He long stayed with them, learning [[Taliska|their language]] and teaching them [[Sindarin]]. He also intervened on behalf of the [[Laiquendi]] of [[Ossiriand]], who feared Men would destroy their home, and he got permission of [[Thingol]], who held rule over all [[Beleriand]], to guide the Men to [[Estolad]].<ref name=West>{{S|West}}</ref>

Finrod had a close friendship with [[Andreth]] of the [[House of Bëor]], whom he often visited during the [[Siege of Angband]] to converse with her on the matters of Elves and Men. One such conversation was written down and later known as ''[[Athrabeth Finrod ah Andreth]]''.

Finrod participated in the [[Dagor Bragollach]], fighting in the [[Fen of Serech]], when he was surrounded by [[Orcs]]. It was [[Barahir]] of the [[House of Bëor]] who saved his life, and Finrod swore an oath of abiding friendship and aid in every need to Barahir and all his kin. As a token he gave Barahir his ring, which became known as the [[Ring of Barahir]].<ref>{{S|Fingolfin}}</ref>

=== Quest for the Silmaril ===
[[File:Anke Eißmann - Finrod is reminded of his oath.jpeg|thumb|''Finrod is reminded of his oath'' by [[Anke Eißmann]]]]
When, ten years later, Barahir's son [[Beren]] came to Nargothrond seeking help, Finrod went with him on the [[Quest for the Silmaril]] to repay his debt. [[Celegorm]] and [[Curufin]], who were living in Nargothrond at the time, persuaded (using barely veiled threats related to their [[Oath of Fëanor|Oath]]) most of Nargothrond to stay behind. Only ten warriors, headed by one [[Edrahil]], were faithful and came with them. Beneath the [[Shadowy Mountains]] they came upon a company of [[Orcs]], and slew them all in their camp. They took their gear and weapons, and by the magic of Finrod, their own forms and faces were changed to the likeness of Orcs. Thus disguised, they came far upon their northward road between [[Ered Wethrin]] and the highlands of [[Taur-nu-Fuin (Dorthonion)|Taur-nu-Fuin]]. However, the twelve were captured and imprisoned by [[Sauron]] on [[Tol-in-Gaurhoth]] ("Isle of Werewolves").<ref name=beren></ref>

[[File:KuraiGeijutsu - And Finrod fell before the Throne.jpg|thumb|''And Finrod fell before the Throne'' by [[:Category:Images by KuraiGeijutsu|Kurai Geijutsu]]]]

Thus befell the contest of Finrod and Sauron. Finrod strove with Sauron in songs of power, and the power of the Elven King was very great. But in the end, Sauron had the mastery. It is told in the ''[[Lay of Leithian]]'':
{{blockquote|He chanted a song of wizardry, 
Of piercing, opening, of treachery, 
Revealing, uncovering, betraying. 
Then sudden Felagund there swaying 
sang in answer a song of staying, 
Resisting, battling against power, 
Of secrets kept, strength like a tower, 
And trust unbroken, freedom, escape; 
Of changing and of shifting shape, 
Of snares eluded, broken traps, 
The prison opening, the chain that snaps, 
Backwards and forwards swayed their song. 
Reeling and foundering, as ever more strong 
The chanting swelled, Felagund fought, 
And all the magic and might he brought, 
Of Elvenesse into his words. 
Softly in the gloom they heard the birds 
Singing afar in Nargothrond, 
The sighing of the sea beyond, 
Beyond the western world, on sand, 
On sand of pearls in Elvenland. 
Then the gloom gathered; darkness growing 
In Valinor, the red blood flowing 
Beside the sea, where the Noldor slew 
The Foamriders, and stealing drew 
Their white ships with their white sails 
From lamplit havens. The wind wails, 
The wolf howls. The ravens flee. 
The ice mutters in the mouths of the sea. 
The captives sad in Angband mourn, 
Thunder rumbles, the fires burn- 
And Finrod fell before the throne.|[[Lay of Leithian Canto VII|Canto VII]], vv. 2173-2205}}

[[File:Anke Eißmann - Death of Finrod Felagund.jpeg|thumb|''Death of Finrod Felagund'' by [[Anke Eißmann]]]]
Then Sauron stripped from them their disguise, but though their kinds were revealed, he could not discover their names or their purposes.

Sauron imprisoned them and one by one they were killed by werewolves until only Beren and Felagund were left, but none of the companions betrayed them. When the werewolf came to kill Beren, Felagund put forth all his power and burst his bonds. He wrestled with the werewolf, and slew it with his hands and teeth. Yet he himself was mortally wounded, and he died in the dark, in Tol-in-Gaurhoth, whose great tower he himself had built. Thus King Finrod Felagund, the fairest and most beloved of the house of [[Finwë]], redeemed his oath.

=== Reincarnation ===
[[File:Donato Giancola - Lore.jpeg|thumb|An Elf loremaster ponders at a mural of Finrod leading his House in battle. Art by [[Donato Giancola]]]]
Because of Finrod's noble actions in life, and his reluctance to journey to Middle-earth, he was rehoused after only a short time. He and [[Glorfindel]] were the only elves who were known to have been reincarnated. It is noted in the ''Lay of Leithian'' that Finrod was soon allowed to return to life in Valinor, and "now dwells with Amarië.”<ref name="GA-2">{{GA|180}}</ref> It is also noted in ''[[The Silmarillion]]'' that "''Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in [[Eldamar]]''".<ref name=beren>{{S|Beren}}</ref>

== Etymology ==
{{seealso|#Other versions of the legendarium}}
{{Pronounce|Finrod Felagund.mp3|Ardamir}}
The name ''Finrod'' is the [[Sindarin]] form of his [[father-name]] '''''Findaráto''''' ("[Golden-]Haired Champion"). It is possible he and his brother [[Angrod]] were first called ''[[Aráto]]'', and later differentiated adding ''find-'', referred to the golden hair derived from [[Indis]]. This name was of [[Telerin]] origin, so the proper [[Quenya]] form would be '''''Artafindë'''''.<ref name=Finwe>{{PM|Finwe}}</ref>{{rp|346-347}}

===Felagund===
'''''Felagund''''' was an [[epessë]] given to him by the [[Dwarves]] that expanded the caves of Nargothrond, and meant "Hewer of Caves". It is not Sindarin, but rather [[Sindarinized]] [[Khuzdul]], from '''''Felakgundu'''''. The name was Eldarized by other as '''''Felagon''''' (in relation with Fin''gon'', Tur''gon'').<ref>{{PM|Felagund}}, p. 352</ref>

While revising his [[Elvish]] languages in later years, [[Tolkien]] reinterpreted ''Felagund'' as "den-dweller, brock, badger", from [[Sindarin]] ''fela'', which was used for dens made by wild animals or temporary dwellings of wandering folks, unrelated to big carved caves. The west bank of Narog had many dens of badgers, some of them occupied by [[Petty-dwarves]]. It was thus probable that ''Felagund'' was actually given by the [[Sons of Fëanor]] as a mockery to Finrod, and transmitted by the Dwarves.<ref>{{NM|P3vii}}, p. 304</ref>

An early etymology for ''Felagund'' was "Lord of Caves" in [[Noldorin]], from ''[[fela]]'' ("caverns") + ''[[cunn]]'' ("prince").<ref>{{LR|P3}}, entries "KUNDU", "PHELEG"</ref>

==Other names==
His [[Amilessë|mother-name]] was '''''[[Ingoldo]]''''', which was also the mother-name of his father Finarfin. It meant "''the'' Ñoldo", 'one-eminent of the kindred' which is in simpler words 'the wise'. It was a name used by his brothers and sister, who loved him.<ref name=Finwe>{{PM|Finwe}}</ref>{{rp|346, 360}}

Finrod was also called '''''[[Nóm]]''''' ("Wisdom") by [[Bëor]] and his [[House of Bëor|people]].<ref name=West>{{S|West}}</ref> His other titles include "the Faithful", "the Friend of Men", "[[King of Nargothrond]]", "[[Lord of Nargothrond]]".<ref>{{S|Index}}, entry "Finrod"</ref><ref name=":0">[[J.R.R. Tolkien]], ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]'', [[Appendix B]] "The Tale of Years". </ref>

He was often called by the Eldar '''''Edennil''''' or '''''Atandil''''', which means "Friend of Men" in [[Sindarin]] and [[Quenya]] respectively.<ref>{{MR|P4k}}, p. 349 (cf. p. 306)</ref> A variant for ''Atandil'' was ''Firindil''.<ref>{{VT|41c}}, p. 14</ref>

== Genealogy ==
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== Other versions of the legendarium ==
In earlier versions of the Middle-earth myths, and when ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]'' was published, the name '''Finrod''' was given to the character later known as [[Finarfin]]. Finrod Felagund was then named '''[[Inglor Felagund]]'''. However, that changed in later drafts, and the character who had the name [[Gildor Inglorion]], in ''The Lord of the Rings'', was unrelated to Finrod despite having a name that means Gildor son of Inglor. Finrod was childless and unmarried during the events of ''The Silmarillion'' because his lover, Amarië, remained in Valinor.<ref>{{S|15}}</ref>

In the published ''[[The Silmarillion]]'', Orodreth is Finrod's brother: this was an editorial decision by [[Christopher Tolkien]] and an admitted mistake. Orodreth was actually the son of Angrod and thus Finrod's nephew.

==Portrayal in adaptations==
[[File:The Rings of Power (TV series) - Finrod.jpg|thumb|[[Will Fletcher]] as Finrod in ''[[The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power]]'']]

===Television===
'''2022: ''[[The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power]]'', Season One:'''

: Finrod is portrayed by actor Will Fletcher for Amazon's The Rings of Power series and appears in two episodes.
: '''Episode 1: ''[[A Shadow of the Past]]'''''
: Finrod's appearances this episode are exclusively in the show's opening prologue.
: His first scene takes place in Valinor where he breaks up a fight between the young Galadriel and other elf children after retrieving a paper boat made by Galadriel. Finrod pulls her aside and attempts to comfort Galadriel, posing a philosophical question to his sister: "Do you know why a ship floats, and a stone does not?"
: Finrod then proceeds to answer the metaphor for Galadriel (A ship looks up at the light while a stone looks down into the dark), to which she poses a question of her own regarding how one is to know which "lights" to follow. Finrod then leans in and whispers an answer, though that answer is kept hidden from the audience for this episode.
: Concluding their discussion, Finrod makes a point that Galadriel will not always have him around to explain these sort of things to her. He then tells her that their parents are waiting as he walks over a hill towards the Two Trees of Valinor.
: Finrod is next briefly seen taking an oath alongside numerous other Elves in response to Morgoth's killing of the Two Trees of Valinor.
: Finrod is then shown in the midst of a battle with Orcs in Middle Earth, attempting to rally his troops while shouting phrases in Quenya: "Valaron kalanen" ("By the light of the Valar!") and "Firuvantë" ("They will die!").
: His final appearance in the prologue is atop his tomb, Galadriel's monologue mentioning that Finrod had died while pursuing Sauron after Morgoth's defeat. His body is shown to be clawed in numerous places and he had been branded with the Mark of Sauron. Galadriel then takes Finrod's dagger from his body to serve as a memento of her brother as she takes up his hunt for Sauron

:'''Episode 8: ''[[Alloyed]]'':'''
::When [[Halbrand]] effortlessly enters [[Galadriel|Galadriel's]] mind by the [[Glanduin]] to try to prove to her that he truly desired to redeem himself and heal [[Middle-earth]] of evil, he uses her memory of Finrod to do so. Nevertheless, Galadriel refuses to believe that he is redeemable and Halbrand is thrust from her mind and flees [[Eregion]] to the [[Mordor|Southlands]].
:[[Amazon Studios]]'s rights to Finrod's character were limited to his mention in the ''[[Appendices]]'', so the series made significant changes and additions to his story, including showing him taking [[Oath of Fëanor|an oath against Morgoth]] before he left Valinor, and his death at the hands of Sauron, which inspires Galadriel's revenge. It is worth noting that Finrod's death saving Beren is mentioned in ''Appendix B: The Tale of Years'', and so Amazon could have used that material, but still opted to change it to have him dying in pursuit of Sauron.<ref name=":0" /> Finrod's original personality was particularly wise, very respectful and reverent towards the Valar, rather than as a rebel who advises people to "touch the darkness".
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| image=[[File:Elena Kukanova - Finrod - First Encounter with Edain.jpg|250px]]
| caption="Finrod - First Encounter with Edain" by [[Elena Kukanova]]
| pronun=
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| location=[[Eldamar]]; [[Nargothrond]]
| affiliation=[[Quest for the Silmaril]]
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| birthlocation=[[Tirion]]
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| death={{FA|465}}
| deathlocation=[[Tol-in-Gaurhoth]]
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| notablefor=
| house=[[House of Finarfin]]
| parentage=[[Finarfin]] & [[Eärwen]]
| siblings=[[Angrod]], [[Aegnor]] and [[Galadriel]]
| spouse=Lover of [[Amarië]]
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{{Quote|King Finrod Felagund, fairest and most beloved of the [[house of Finwë]].|''[[Quenta Silmarillion]]'', "[[Of Beren and Lúthien]]"}}

'''Finrod''' was an [[Elves|Elven]] king of the [[Noldor]], eldest son of [[Finarfin]] and older brother to [[Angrod]], [[Aegnor]] and [[Galadriel]]. Finrod was like his father in his fair face and golden hair, and also in his noble and generous heart.

In [[Beleriand]], Finrod became the ruler of [[Nargothrond]], taking the [[Epessë|after-name]] of '''Felagund'''. He was a wise, just and powerful Elf, and a great traveller.<ref>[[Robert Foster]], ''[[The Complete Guide to Middle-earth]]'', p. 144</ref>

== History ==
Finrod was born in [[Eldamar]] in the [[Year of the Trees 1300]], the same as his cousin [[Turgon]].<ref>{{AA|85|note}}</ref> They were friends, and his beloved was [[Amarië]] of the [[Vanyar]].

Finrod was among those who opposed [[Fëanor]] and the [[Exile of the Noldor]]. However, when the Noldor were set to depart from [[Aman]], he joined them, for he would not be sundered from his friends and his people who were eager to go. Also, he had no wish to abandon his people to Fëanor's rule.<ref>{{S|Flight}}</ref>

=== Return of the Noldor ===
Finrod, along with his father, led the rear of the host along with many of the noblest and wisest of the Noldor; and often they looked behind them to see their fair city, especially Finrod, for he had to leave Amarië behind. With him, he brought along many treasures from [[Tirion]],<ref name=return>{{S|Return}}</ref> including [[Ring of Barahir|his Ring]].<ref name=beren>{{S|Beren}}</ref>

Finrod and his people did not participate in the [[Kinslaying at Alqualondë]]. While they were travelling up the coast of [[Araman]], the [[Valar|Vala]] [[Mandos]] appeared and pronounced the [[Doom of the Noldor]], and in that hour, Finarfin forsook the march and returned to [[Valinor]] with many of his people. However, Finrod and his siblings went forward still and led their people on the long and perilous march to [[Middle-earth]].

=== Life in Beleriand ===
After their victory in the [[Dagor-nuin-Giliath]], the Noldor started building their numerous realms. Finrod established the tower of [[Minas Tirith (Beleriand)|Minas Tirith]] on the island of [[Tol Sirion]]. Once, while journeying southward along the river [[Sirion]], Finrod and his friend [[Turgon]] encamped upon its banks. [[Ulmo]], coming up the river, laid a deep sleep upon them and heavy dreams; and it seemed to each that he was bidden to prepare for a day of evil, and to establish a retreat, lest [[Morgoth]] should burst from [[Angband]] and overthrow the armies of the North.

[[File:Mysilvergreen - Finrod Felagund.jpg|left|thumb|''Finrod Felagund'' by [[:Category:Images by Mysilvergreen|Mysilvergreen]]]]
Now on a time Finrod and his sister [[Galadriel]] were guests of King [[Thingol|Elu Thingol]], their kinsman in [[Doriath]]. There, Finrod told Thingol of his admiration for the halls of [[Menegroth]]; and Thingol spoke to him of the deep gorge of the river [[Narog]] and told him about the caves under the [[High Faroth]] in its deep western shore. Thus Finrod came to the [[Caverns of Narog]] and established there deep halls and armouries; and that stronghold was called [[Nargothrond]]. In this he was aided by the [[Dwarves]] of the [[Blue Mountains]], and Finrod rewarded them with many jewels from Valinor. In that time, the [[Nauglamír]] was made for him, the Necklace of the Dwarves. After Nargothrond was made, Finrod committed Minas Tirith to the keeping of [[Orodreth]], his nephew, and was referred to by the additional name of ''Felagund'', an honorific title given him by the Dwarves, meaning a "Maker of Caves".

The realm of Nargothrond extended to the sea, excluding the [[Falas]]. Finrod was a friend and ally of [[Círdan]], and had also built the tower [[Barad Nimras]] upon the cape.<ref>{{S|14}}</ref>

=== Encounter with Men ===
[[File:Steamey - Finrod, Beor and the Green-elves of Ossiriand.jpg|thumb|''Finrod, Beor and the Green-elves of Ossiriand'' by [[:Category:Images by Steamey|Steamy]]]]
When over three hundred years had passed since the Noldor came to Beleriand, Finrod journeyed east of Sirion and went hunting with [[Maglor]] and [[Maedhros]], two of the [[sons of Fëanor]]. But he wearied of the hunt and passed on alone towards the mountains of [[Ered Lindon]]. There, in the lands of [[Thargelion]], in [[East Beleriand]], Finrod was the first of the Noldor to come across [[Men]]. These were the kindred and followers of [[Bëor]] [[The Old]]. He went among them while they were sleeping and, picking up a harp which Bëor had laid aside, played music upon it such as the ears of men had not heard. When the men awoke and listened to his song, each thought that he was in some fair dream. He long stayed with them, learning [[Taliska|their language]] and teaching them [[Sindarin]]. He also intervened on behalf of the [[Laiquendi]] of [[Ossiriand]], who feared Men would destroy their home, and he got permission of [[Thingol]], who held rule over all [[Beleriand]], to guide the Men to [[Estolad]].<ref name=West>{{S|West}}</ref>

Finrod had a close friendship with [[Andreth]] of the [[House of Bëor]], whom he often visited during the [[Siege of Angband]] to converse with her on the matters of Elves and Men. One such conversation was written down and later known as ''[[Athrabeth Finrod ah Andreth]]''.

Finrod participated in the [[Dagor Bragollach]], fighting in the [[Fen of Serech]], when he was surrounded by [[Orcs]]. It was [[Barahir]] of the [[House of Bëor]] who saved his life, and Finrod swore an oath of abiding friendship and aid in every need to Barahir and all his kin. As a token he gave Barahir his ring, which became known as the [[Ring of Barahir]].<ref>{{S|Fingolfin}}</ref>

=== Quest for the Silmaril ===
[[File:Anke Eißmann - Finrod is reminded of his oath.jpeg|thumb|''Finrod is reminded of his oath'' by [[Anke Eißmann]]]]
When, ten years later, Barahir's son [[Beren]] came to Nargothrond seeking help, Finrod went with him on the [[Quest for the Silmaril]] to repay his debt. [[Celegorm]] and [[Curufin]], who were living in Nargothrond at the time, persuaded (using barely veiled threats related to their [[Oath of Fëanor|Oath]]) most of Nargothrond to stay behind. Only ten warriors, headed by one [[Edrahil]], were faithful and came with them. Beneath the [[Shadowy Mountains]] they came upon a company of [[Orcs]], and slew them all in their camp. They took their gear and weapons, and by the magic of Finrod, their own forms and faces were changed to the likeness of Orcs. Thus disguised, they came far upon their northward road between [[Ered Wethrin]] and the highlands of [[Taur-nu-Fuin (Dorthonion)|Taur-nu-Fuin]]. However, the twelve were captured and imprisoned by [[Sauron]] on [[Tol-in-Gaurhoth]] ("Isle of Werewolves").<ref name=beren></ref>

[[File:KuraiGeijutsu - And Finrod fell before the Throne.jpg|thumb|''And Finrod fell before the Throne'' by [[:Category:Images by KuraiGeijutsu|Kurai Geijutsu]]]]

Thus befell the contest of Finrod and Sauron. Finrod strove with Sauron in songs of power, and the power of the Elven King was very great. But in the end, Sauron had the mastery. It is told in the ''[[Lay of Leithian]]'':
{{blockquote|He chanted a song of wizardry, 
Of piercing, opening, of treachery, 
Revealing, uncovering, betraying. 
Then sudden Felagund there swaying 
sang in answer a song of staying, 
Resisting, battling against power, 
Of secrets kept, strength like a tower, 
And trust unbroken, freedom, escape; 
Of changing and of shifting shape, 
Of snares eluded, broken traps, 
The prison opening, the chain that snaps, 
Backwards and forwards swayed their song. 
Reeling and foundering, as ever more strong 
The chanting swelled, Felagund fought, 
And all the magic and might he brought, 
Of Elvenesse into his words. 
Softly in the gloom they heard the birds 
Singing afar in Nargothrond, 
The sighing of the sea beyond, 
Beyond the western world, on sand, 
On sand of pearls in Elvenland. 
Then the gloom gathered; darkness growing 
In Valinor, the red blood flowing 
Beside the sea, where the Noldor slew 
The Foamriders, and stealing drew 
Their white ships with their white sails 
From lamplit havens. The wind wails, 
The wolf howls. The ravens flee. 
The ice mutters in the mouths of the sea. 
The captives sad in Angband mourn, 
Thunder rumbles, the fires burn- 
And Finrod fell before the throne.|[[Lay of Leithian Canto VII|Canto VII]], vv. 2173-2205}}

[[File:Anke Eißmann - Death of Finrod Felagund.jpeg|thumb|''Death of Finrod Felagund'' by [[Anke Eißmann]]]]
Then Sauron stripped from them their disguise, but though their kinds were revealed, he could not discover their names or their purposes.

Sauron imprisoned them and one by one they were killed by werewolves until only Beren and Felagund were left, but none of the companions betrayed them. When the werewolf came to kill Beren, Felagund put forth all his power and burst his bonds. He wrestled with the werewolf, and slew it with his hands and teeth. Yet he himself was mortally wounded, and he died in the dark, in Tol-in-Gaurhoth, whose great tower he himself had built. Thus King Finrod Felagund, the fairest and most beloved of the house of [[Finwë]], redeemed his oath.

=== Reincarnation ===
[[File:Donato Giancola - Lore.jpeg|thumb|An Elf loremaster ponders at a mural of Finrod leading his House in battle. Art by [[Donato Giancola]]]]
Because of Finrod's noble actions in life, and his reluctance to journey to Middle-earth, he was rehoused after only a short time. He and [[Glorfindel]] were the only elves who were known to have been reincarnated. It is noted in the ''Lay of Leithian'' that Finrod was soon allowed to return to life in Valinor, and "now dwells with Amarië.”<ref name="GA-2">{{GA|180}}</ref> It is also noted in ''[[The Silmarillion]]'' that "''Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in [[Eldamar]]''".<ref name=beren>{{S|Beren}}</ref>

== Etymology ==
{{seealso|#Other versions of the legendarium}}
{{Pronounce|Finrod Felagund.mp3|Ardamir}}
The name ''Finrod'' is the [[Sindarin]] form of his [[father-name]] '''''Findaráto''''' ("[Golden-]Haired Champion"). It is possible he and his brother [[Angrod]] were first called ''[[Aráto]]'', and later differentiated adding ''find-'', referred to the golden hair derived from [[Indis]]. This name was of [[Telerin]] origin, so the proper [[Quenya]] form would be '''''Artafindë'''''.<ref name=Finwe>{{PM|Finwe}}</ref>{{rp|346-347}}

===Felagund===
'''''Felagund''''' was an [[epessë]] given to him by the [[Dwarves]] that expanded the caves of Nargothrond, and meant "Hewer of Caves". It is not Sindarin, but rather [[Sindarinized]] [[Khuzdul]], from '''''Felakgundu'''''. The name was Eldarized by other as '''''Felagon''''' (in relation with Fin''gon'', Tur''gon'').<ref>{{PM|Felagund}}, p. 352</ref>

While revising his [[Elvish]] languages in later years, [[Tolkien]] reinterpreted ''Felagund'' as "den-dweller, brock, badger", from [[Sindarin]] ''fela'', which was used for dens made by wild animals or temporary dwellings of wandering folks, unrelated to big carved caves. The west bank of Narog had many dens of badgers, some of them occupied by [[Petty-dwarves]]. It was thus probable that ''Felagund'' was actually given by the [[Sons of Fëanor]] as a mockery to Finrod, and transmitted by the Dwarves.<ref>{{NM|P3vii}}, p. 304</ref>

An early etymology for ''Felagund'' was "Lord of Caves" in [[Noldorin]], from ''[[fela]]'' ("caverns") + ''[[cunn]]'' ("prince").<ref>{{LR|P3}}, entries "KUNDU", "PHELEG"</ref>

==Other names==
His [[Amilessë|mother-name]] was '''''[[Ingoldo]]''''', which was also the mother-name of his father Finarfin. It meant "''the'' Ñoldo", 'one-eminent of the kindred' which is in simpler words 'the wise'. It was a name used by his brothers and sister, who loved him.<ref name=Finwe>{{PM|Finwe}}</ref>{{rp|346, 360}}

Finrod was also called '''''[[Nóm]]''''' ("Wisdom") by [[Bëor]] and his [[House of Bëor|people]].<ref name=West>{{S|West}}</ref> His other titles include "the Faithful", "the Friend of Men", "[[King of Nargothrond]]", "[[Lord of Nargothrond]]".<ref>{{S|Index}}, entry "Finrod"</ref><ref name=":0">[[J.R.R. Tolkien]], ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]'', [[Appendix B]] "The Tale of Years". </ref>

He was often called by the Eldar '''''Edennil''''' or '''''Atandil''''', which means "Friend of Men" in [[Sindarin]] and [[Quenya]] respectively.<ref>{{MR|P4k}}, p. 349 (cf. p. 306)</ref> A variant for ''Atandil'' was ''Firindil''.<ref>{{VT|41c}}, p. 14</ref>

== Genealogy ==
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== Other versions of the legendarium ==
In earlier versions of the Middle-earth myths, and when ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]'' was published, the name '''Finrod''' was given to the character later known as [[Finarfin]]. Finrod Felagund was then named '''[[Inglor Felagund]]'''. However, that changed in later drafts, and the character who had the name [[Gildor Inglorion]], in ''The Lord of the Rings'', was unrelated to Finrod despite having a name that means Gildor son of Inglor. Finrod was childless and unmarried during the events of ''The Silmarillion'' because his lover, Amarië, remained in Valinor.<ref>{{S|15}}</ref>

In the published ''[[The Silmarillion]]'', Orodreth is Finrod's brother: this was an editorial decision by [[Christopher Tolkien]] and an admitted mistake. Orodreth was actually the son of Angrod and thus Finrod's nephew.

==Portrayal in adaptations==
[[File:The Rings of Power (TV series) - Finrod.jpg|thumb|[[Will Fletcher]] as Finrod in ''[[The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power]]'']]

===Television===
'''2022: ''[[The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power]]'', Season One:'''
:'''Episode 1: ''[[A Shadow of the Past]]'''''
::: Finrod's appearances this episode are exclusively in the show's opening prologue.
::: His first scene takes place in Valinor where he breaks up a fight between the young Galadriel and other elf children after retrieving a paper boat made by Galadriel. Finrod pulls her aside and attempts to comfort Galadriel, posing a philosophical question to his sister: "Do you know why a ship floats, and a stone does not?"
::: Finrod then proceeds to answer the metaphor for Galadriel (A ship looks up at the light while a stone looks down into the dark), to which she poses a question of her own regarding how one is to know which "lights" to follow. Finrod then leans in and whispers an answer, though that answer is kept hidden from the audience for this episode.
::: Concluding their discussion, Finrod makes a point that Galadriel will not always have him around to explain these sort of things to her. He then tells her that their parents are waiting as he walks over a hill towards the Two Trees of Valinor.
::: Finrod is next briefly seen taking an oath alongside numerous other Elves in response to Morgoth's killing of the Two Trees of Valinor.
::: Finrod is then shown in the midst of a battle with Orcs in Middle Earth, attempting to rally his troops while shouting phrases in Quenya: "Valaron kalanen" ("By the light of the Valar!") and "Firuvantë" ("They will die!").
::: His final appearance in the prologue is atop his tomb, Galadriel's monologue mentioning that Finrod had died while pursuing Sauron after Morgoth's defeat. His body is shown to be clawed in numerous places and he had been branded with the Mark of Sauron. Galadriel then takes Finrod's dagger from his body to serve as a memento of her brother as she takes up his hunt for Sauron

:'''Episode 8: ''[[Alloyed]]'':'''
::When [[Halbrand]] effortlessly enters [[Galadriel|Galadriel's]] mind by the [[Glanduin]] to try to prove to her that he truly desired to redeem himself and heal [[Middle-earth]] of evil, he uses her memory of Finrod to do so. Nevertheless, Galadriel refuses to believe that he is redeemable and Halbrand is thrust from her mind and flees [[Eregion]] to the [[Mordor|Southlands]].
:[[Amazon Studios]]'s rights to Finrod's character were limited to his mention in the ''[[Appendices]]'', so the series made significant changes and additions to his story, including showing him taking [[Oath of Fëanor|an oath against Morgoth]] before he left Valinor, and his death at the hands of Sauron, which inspires Galadriel's revenge. It is worth noting that Finrod's death saving Beren is mentioned in ''Appendix B: The Tale of Years'', and so Amazon could have used that material, but still opted to change it to have him dying in pursuit of Sauron.<ref name=":0" /> Finrod's original personality was particularly wise, very respectful and reverent towards the Valar, rather than as a rebel who advises people to "touch the darkness".
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Talk:Finrod

2023-07-03T07:09:03Z

MendicantBias: /* Finrod: RE - Rings of Power */

==Portrayal in adaptations==
:(This topic has been moved here from [[Talk:Isildur]])
Also R.E. your comments on the Finrod page. I think you're being very loose here. Yes, Finrod is an Elf and the brother of Galadriel in the Amazon show, but that is the only way he resembles his book counterpart. They changed his death, included him in events the books tell us he did not participate in and changed his personality.

That you set such high standards for the movies but are willing to give Rings of Power so much wiggle room seems like a double standard. [[User:English Lady|English Lady]] ([[User talk:English Lady|talk]]) 15:50, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

:The statement that none of his material in Rings of Power can be found in the books is the only phrase I removed as I don't think we can factually say that. He also has golden hair as described in the books, and I think there were a lot of similarities with his [https://www.reddit.com/r/LOTR_on_Prime/comments/yc74m1/death_of_finrod_in_rings_of_power_has_books_roots/ death] that were derived from the books. [[User:Hyarion|Hyarion]] ([[User talk:Hyarion|talk]]) 16:12, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
::Such as? The series says he died "hunting Sauron". In the books he was killed by a werewolf saving Beren when accompanying him on his quest for the Silmaril.
::Can I say that this is determined by your personal preference for the series and hatred for the movies? You're willing to let things slide in one that you would not in the other? [[User:English Lady|English Lady]] ([[User talk:English Lady|talk]]) 17:18, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
::The series also shows him taking the Oath of Feanor which absolutely did not happen in the books. It shows all the sons of Feanor with black hair when we know at least two were redheads.
::Galadriel's hair was supposed to shine with the pure light of the 2 trees of Valinor, in the series she's just a dirty blonde with split ends. Hardly matches that description.
::The list goes on... very very little of the series is supported by the books. Why shouldn't people be allowed to point that out? [[User:English Lady|English Lady]] ([[User talk:English Lady|talk]]) 17:23, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
:::Not sure if you had a chance to read the post I linked, but [https://www.reddit.com/r/LOTR_on_Prime/comments/yc74m1/death_of_finrod_in_rings_of_power_has_books_roots/ this page] shows the subtle details of his death pretty well. (You might need to press a "Click to see spoiler" button to see the image. I enjoyed Peter Jackson's films a lot more than the Rings of Power, we just need to remember we're an encyclopedia, so saying blanket statements like "none of the material can be found in the books" is not accurate if there are ''any'' similarities. The Oath of Fëanor is listed as a difference between the books, so I'm not sure why you would think you aren't allowed to point that out? The hair color of Galadriel or the Sons of Fëanor isn't something relevant to this particular article. [[User:Hyarion|Hyarion]] ([[User talk:Hyarion|talk]]) 18:00, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
::::OK granted, I may have gone a bit OTT there, but I think when it comes to misconceptions the changes to Finrod are just as likely to influence perceptions of the character.
::::BTW since it might be relevant, I noticed there was no comprehensive listing of the differences to the books in the series overall, and when I listed some one of the mods removed all the content without explanation. I moved and rewrote some of it, and still there for now, but I do have reasons to doubt the objectivity of the person in question that I don't want to mention here. [[User:English Lady|English Lady]] ([[User talk:English Lady|talk]]) 19:03, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
:::::I'm not sure I understand why reverting [[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]]'s changes was necessary. Next time can you discuss things on a talk page before reverting someone's changes? Listing the episodes by season and episode number is in line with all our other articles, more helpful to the reader than the original air date, and it will continue to make sense once Season 2 is released, the dates you added don't even have a year. You've also introduced some grammatical mistakes and removed interwiki links that LorenzoCB had added. We appreciate your cooperation. We're all working together to achieve the same goal so we need to make sure we work as a team. [[User:Hyarion|Hyarion]] ([[User talk:Hyarion|talk]]) 20:44, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
::::::That was why I listed all the changes by Episode. I can add the number and air date if you like. Including year. I can also do grammar checks. However, removing all references to deviations from the lore on the grounds of a spelling error makes it appear as though the person doing it is are not being impartial and just don't want people to know the series is inacccurate. Spelling errors can be fixed, there is no reason to remove entire sections on that basis, especially when there are grammatical mistakes in some of Lorenzos pages. [[User:English Lady|English Lady]] ([[User talk:English Lady|talk]]) 20:57, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
:::::::If not mistaken, i think he reverted yiur edits because while doing this you removed a whole section. It is like vandalism. [[User:Sage|Sage]] ([[User talk:Sage|talk]]) 01:57, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

== Finrod: RE - Rings of Power ==

A few discrepancies and cleaning up of the sections dedicated to Finrod's portrayal in Rings of Power. [[User:MendicantBias|MendicantBias]] ([[User talk:MendicantBias|talk]]) 06:21, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

:Hello! I wanted to give my thoughts regarding the formatting and content in this section, as I think it could very much use some improvement to bring it up to a higher standard of quality.
:I very much appreciate that the character's appearances are divided into his relevant episodes. That makes things a lot easier. Below is a copy of the first episode text alone as it exists at the time of this posting, along with my notes on changes that could be made for easier reading. Below that is my own suggested rewrite of the section for viewing.
:Galadriel recalls a memory of her brother during her childhood at the time of the Years of the Trees.
:[Could use some reworking and set up to divide Finrod's scenes. Also, I'm not certain on why this section is being labeled as "Galadriel's memories/recollections" when simply stating something along the lines of "Finrod appears entirely during the show's opening/prologue" or "Galadriel's monologue" is more clear in regards to what is happening in the show. Third, I'm unclear on why the term "Years of the Trees" is being used when the show does not make any such usage of the term. It should simply state "in Valinor".]
:In the memory, after some Elf children bully her and sink her paper swan ship, she attempts to attack one of them. However, Finrod (portrayed by Will Fletcher)
:[I'm not sure why the actor for Finrod is being stated here and in such a manner. A separate sentence at the beginning of the section should say "Finrod is portrayed by actor Will Fletcher in Amazon's The Rings of Power."]
:shows up just in time to prevent her from doing any harm. Not long after, Finrod is seen talking to Galadriel beneath a tree, where it is revealed that Galadriel had made the ship just as Finrod had taught her.
:["Not long after"? Are these not the same scene?]
:To which, Finrod asks her if she knows why ships float while stones cannot, and tells her, after a moment of silence, that stones look downwards towards the irresistible darkness of water while ships look upwards towards starlight, fighting against the darkness of water, whispering on things it would not know.
:[This feels like poor grammar. The sentence is excessively long, making it quite the run on.]
:Galadriel questions Finrod, saying that stars are reflected just as brightly within water and that it is hard to know which lights to follow, up or down. Upon thinking, Finrod whispers to her: "Sometimes we cannot know until we have touched the darkness". To this, Galadriel ponders that it sounds simple and Finrod tells her that many things are, but she must decide realize them for herself as he will not always be there to help. Not elaborating on this further, Finrod stands up and tells her that their parents are waiting for them, before walking over a hill to reveal the Two Trees.
:Later in Galadriel's recollections,
:[At this point this is a good spot to specify this as "Finrod's second scene" - though technically it is his third, as he is next shown taking the Oath of Feanor alongside other elves, which I noticed is omitted from the summary.]
:Finrod is seen in a battle shouting phrases in Quenya: "Valaron kalanen" ("By the light of the Valar!") and "Firuvantë" ("They will die!").
:Galadriel mentions that he vowed to destroy Sauron, Morgoth's sorcerer and lieutenant. Yet Sauron found and defeated Finrod first, marking his corpse with a red symbol, which not even the wisest Elves could decipher, causing Galadriel to take up her brother's vow and dagger for herself.
:[This doesn't specify that Galadriel takes the blade from Finrod's body, or properly make clear the transition between the battle scene and the next one. It also elaborates unnecessarily on details regarding the mark of Sauron.]
:Potenital rewrite:
:Finrod is portrayed by Actor Will Fletcher for Amazon's The Rings of Power Series and appears in two episodes.
:[Episode 1 summary.]
:Finrod's appearances this episode are exclusively in the show's opening prologue.
:His first scene takes place in Valinor where he breaks up a fight between the young Galadriel and other elf children after retrieving a paper boat made by Galadriel. Finrod pulls her aside and attempts to comfort Galadriel, posing a philosophical question to his sister: "Do you know why a ship floats, and a stone does not?"
:Finrod then proceeds to answer the metaphor for Galadriel (A ship looks up at the light while a stone looks down into the dark), to which she poses a question of her own regarding how one is to know which "lights" to follow. Finrod then leans in and whispers an answer, though that answer is kept hidden from the audience for this episode.
:Concluding their discussion, Finrod makes a point that Galadriel will not always have him around to explain these sort of things to her. He then tells her that their parents are waiting as he walks over a hill towards the Two Trees of Valinor.
:Finrod is next briefly seen taking an Oath alongside numerous other Elves in response to Morgoth's killing of the Two Trees of Valinor.
:Finrod is then shown in the midst of a battle with Orcs in Middle Earth, attempting to rally his troops while shouting phrases in Quenya: "Valaron kalanen" ("By the light of the Valar!") and "Firuvantë" ("They will die!").
:His final appearance in the prologue is atop his tomb, Galadriel's monologue mentioning that Finrod had died while pursuing Sauron after Morgoth's defeat. His body is shown to be clawed in numerous places and he had been branded with the Mark of Sauron. Galadriel then takes Finrod's dagger from his body to serve as a memento of her brother as she takes up his hunt for Sauron. [[User:MendicantBias|MendicantBias]] ([[User talk:MendicantBias|talk]]) 07:03, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

Talk:Finrod

2023-07-03T07:03:19Z

MendicantBias: /* Finrod: RE - Rings of Power */ Reply

==Portrayal in adaptations==
:(This topic has been moved here from [[Talk:Isildur]])
Also R.E. your comments on the Finrod page. I think you're being very loose here. Yes, Finrod is an Elf and the brother of Galadriel in the Amazon show, but that is the only way he resembles his book counterpart. They changed his death, included him in events the books tell us he did not participate in and changed his personality.

That you set such high standards for the movies but are willing to give Rings of Power so much wiggle room seems like a double standard. [[User:English Lady|English Lady]] ([[User talk:English Lady|talk]]) 15:50, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

:The statement that none of his material in Rings of Power can be found in the books is the only phrase I removed as I don't think we can factually say that. He also has golden hair as described in the books, and I think there were a lot of similarities with his [https://www.reddit.com/r/LOTR_on_Prime/comments/yc74m1/death_of_finrod_in_rings_of_power_has_books_roots/ death] that were derived from the books. [[User:Hyarion|Hyarion]] ([[User talk:Hyarion|talk]]) 16:12, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
::Such as? The series says he died "hunting Sauron". In the books he was killed by a werewolf saving Beren when accompanying him on his quest for the Silmaril.
::Can I say that this is determined by your personal preference for the series and hatred for the movies? You're willing to let things slide in one that you would not in the other? [[User:English Lady|English Lady]] ([[User talk:English Lady|talk]]) 17:18, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
::The series also shows him taking the Oath of Feanor which absolutely did not happen in the books. It shows all the sons of Feanor with black hair when we know at least two were redheads.
::Galadriel's hair was supposed to shine with the pure light of the 2 trees of Valinor, in the series she's just a dirty blonde with split ends. Hardly matches that description.
::The list goes on... very very little of the series is supported by the books. Why shouldn't people be allowed to point that out? [[User:English Lady|English Lady]] ([[User talk:English Lady|talk]]) 17:23, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
:::Not sure if you had a chance to read the post I linked, but [https://www.reddit.com/r/LOTR_on_Prime/comments/yc74m1/death_of_finrod_in_rings_of_power_has_books_roots/ this page] shows the subtle details of his death pretty well. (You might need to press a "Click to see spoiler" button to see the image. I enjoyed Peter Jackson's films a lot more than the Rings of Power, we just need to remember we're an encyclopedia, so saying blanket statements like "none of the material can be found in the books" is not accurate if there are ''any'' similarities. The Oath of Fëanor is listed as a difference between the books, so I'm not sure why you would think you aren't allowed to point that out? The hair color of Galadriel or the Sons of Fëanor isn't something relevant to this particular article. [[User:Hyarion|Hyarion]] ([[User talk:Hyarion|talk]]) 18:00, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
::::OK granted, I may have gone a bit OTT there, but I think when it comes to misconceptions the changes to Finrod are just as likely to influence perceptions of the character.
::::BTW since it might be relevant, I noticed there was no comprehensive listing of the differences to the books in the series overall, and when I listed some one of the mods removed all the content without explanation. I moved and rewrote some of it, and still there for now, but I do have reasons to doubt the objectivity of the person in question that I don't want to mention here. [[User:English Lady|English Lady]] ([[User talk:English Lady|talk]]) 19:03, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
:::::I'm not sure I understand why reverting [[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]]'s changes was necessary. Next time can you discuss things on a talk page before reverting someone's changes? Listing the episodes by season and episode number is in line with all our other articles, more helpful to the reader than the original air date, and it will continue to make sense once Season 2 is released, the dates you added don't even have a year. You've also introduced some grammatical mistakes and removed interwiki links that LorenzoCB had added. We appreciate your cooperation. We're all working together to achieve the same goal so we need to make sure we work as a team. [[User:Hyarion|Hyarion]] ([[User talk:Hyarion|talk]]) 20:44, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
::::::That was why I listed all the changes by Episode. I can add the number and air date if you like. Including year. I can also do grammar checks. However, removing all references to deviations from the lore on the grounds of a spelling error makes it appear as though the person doing it is are not being impartial and just don't want people to know the series is inacccurate. Spelling errors can be fixed, there is no reason to remove entire sections on that basis, especially when there are grammatical mistakes in some of Lorenzos pages. [[User:English Lady|English Lady]] ([[User talk:English Lady|talk]]) 20:57, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
:::::::If not mistaken, i think he reverted yiur edits because while doing this you removed a whole section. It is like vandalism. [[User:Sage|Sage]] ([[User talk:Sage|talk]]) 01:57, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

== Finrod: RE - Rings of Power ==

A few discrepancies and cleaning up of the sections dedicated to Finrod's portrayal in Rings of Power. [[User:MendicantBias|MendicantBias]] ([[User talk:MendicantBias|talk]]) 06:21, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

:Hello! I wanted to give my thoughts regarding the formatting and content in this section, as I think it could very much use some improvement to bring it up to a higher standard of quality.
:I very much appreciate that the character's appearances are divided into his relevant episodes. That makes things a lot easier. Below is a copy of the first episode text alone as it exists at the time of this posting, along with my notes on changes that could be made for easier reading. Below that is my own suggested rewrite of the section for viewing.
:Galadriel recalls a memory of her brother during her childhood at the time of the Years of the Trees.
:[Could use some reworking and set up to divide Finrod's scenes. Also, I'm not certain on why this section is being labeled as "Galadriel's memories/recollections" when simply stating something along the lines of "Finrod appears entirely during the show's opening/prologue" or "Galadriel's monologue" is more clear in regards to what is happening in the show. Third, I'm unclear on why the term "Years of the Trees" is being used when the show does not make any such usage of the term. It should simply state "in Valinor".]
:In the memory, after some Elf children bully her and sink her paper swan ship, she attempts to attack one of them. However, Finrod (portrayed by Will Fletcher)
:[I'm not sure why the actor for Finrod is being stated here and in such a manner. A separate sentence at the beginning of the section should say "Finrod is portrayed by actor Will Fletcher in Amazon's The Rings of Power."]
:shows up just in time to prevent her from doing any harm. Not long after, Finrod is seen talking to Galadriel beneath a tree, where it is revealed that Galadriel had made the ship just as Finrod had taught her.
:["Not long after"? Are these not the same scene?]
:To which, Finrod asks her if she knows why ships float while stones cannot, and tells her, after a moment of silence, that stones look downwards towards the irresistible darkness of water while ships look upwards towards starlight, fighting against the darkness of water, whispering on things it would not know.
:[This feels like poor grammar. The sentence is excessively long, making it quite the run on.]
:Galadriel questions Finrod, saying that stars are reflected just as brightly within water and that it is hard to know which lights to follow, up or down. Upon thinking, Finrod whispers to her: "Sometimes we cannot know until we have touched the darkness". To this, Galadriel ponders that it sounds simple and Finrod tells her that many things are, but she must decide realize them for herself as he will not always be there to help. Not elaborating on this further, Finrod stands up and tells her that their parents are waiting for them, before walking over a hill to reveal the Two Trees.
:Later in Galadriel's recollections,
:[At this point this is a good spot to specify this as "Finrod's second scene" - though technically it is his third, as he is next shown taking the Oath of Feanor alongside other elves, which I noticed is omitted from the summary.]
:Finrod is seen in a battle shouting phrases in Quenya: "Valaron kalanen" ("By the light of the Valar!") and "Firuvantë" ("They will die!").
:Galadriel mentions that he vowed to destroy Sauron, Morgoth's sorcerer and lieutenant. Yet Sauron found and defeated Finrod first, marking his corpse with a red symbol, which not even the wisest Elves could decipher, causing Galadriel to take up her brother's vow and dagger for herself.
:[This doesn't specify that Galadriel takes the blade from Finrod's body, or properly make clear the transition between the battle scene and the next one. It also elaborates unnecessarily on details regarding the mark of Sauron.]
:Potenital rewrite:
:Finrod is portrayed by Actor Will Fletcher for Amazon's The Rings of Power Series and appears in two episodes.
:[Episode 1 summary.]
:Finrod's appearances this episode are exclusively in the show's opening prologue.
:His first scene takes place in Valinor where he breaks up a fight between the young Galadriel and other elf children after retrieving a paper boat made by Galadriel. Finrod pulls her aside and attempts to comfort Galadriel, posing a philosophical question to his sister: "Do you know why a ship floats, and a stone does not?"
:Finrod then proceeds to answer the metaphor for Galadriel (A ship looks up at the light while a stone looks down into the dark), to which she poses a question of her own regarding how one is to know which "lights" to follow. Finrod then leans in and whispers an answer, though that answer is kept hidden from the audience for this episode.
:Concluding their discussion, Finrod makes a point that Galadriel will not always have him around to explain these sort of things to her. He then tells her that their parents are waiting as he walks over a hill towards the Two Trees of Valinor.
:Finrod is next briefly seen taking an Oath alongside numerous other Elves in response to Morgoth's killing of the Two Trees of Valinor.
:Finrod is then briefly shown in the midst of a battle with Orcs in Middle Earth, attempting to rally his troops while shouting phrases in Quenya: "Valaron kalanen" ("By the light of the Valar!") and "Firuvantë" ("They will die!").
:His final appearance in the prologue is atop his tomb, Galadriel's monologue mentioning that Finrod had died while pursuing Sauron after Morgoth's defeat. His body is shown to be clawed in numerous places and he had been branded with the Mark of Sauron. Galadriel then takes Finrod's dagger from his body to serve as a memento of her brother as she takes up his hunt for Sauron. [[User:MendicantBias|MendicantBias]] ([[User talk:MendicantBias|talk]]) 07:03, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

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