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Míriel

2020-10-14T22:35:54Z

Mvoorhis: rembodied --> re-embodied. I suppose I might have finished reading the sentence...

{{disambig-more|Míriel|[[Míriel (disambiguation)]]}}
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| image=[[File:MySilverGreen - Miriel.jpg|250px]]
| caption="Míriel" by [[:Category:Images by Mysilvergreen|Mysilvergreen]]
| pronun=[[Exilic Quenya|EQ]], {{IPA|[ˈmiːri.el θeˈrinde]}} [[Vanyarin Quenya|VQ]], {{IPA|[seˈrinde]}}
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| children=[[Fëanor]]
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{{quote|Míriel was the name of his mother, who was called Serindë, because of her surpassing skill in weaving and needlework; for her hands were more skilled to fineness than any hands even among the Noldor.|''[[Quenta Silmarillion]]'', "[[Of Fëanor and the Unchaining of Melkor]]"}}

'''Míriel Þerindë''', also spelled '''Serindë''', was the first wife of [[Finwë]], [[King of the Noldor]]. Her son was [[Curufinwë]], whom she called [[Fëanor|Fëanáro]], which means "Spirit of Fire". Miriel's hair was described as being silver in appearance, an unusual colour for one of the [[Noldor]].

==History==
Míriel lived in the blessed realm of [[Aman]], in the hill city of [[Tirion]] on [[Túna]], together with her husband [[Finwë]], King of the [[Noldor]]. Her hands were skilled in the shaping of fine things, and she was unsurpassed in weaving and needlework.
[[File:Francesco Amadio - Miriel and Feanaro.jpg|thumb|left|''Míriel and Feanáro'' by [[:Category:Images by Francesco Amadio|Francesco Amadio]]]]
There was much love between Míriel and Finwë, and even more for her son, but after giving birth to [[Fëanor]] in {{YT|1169}},<ref name="Fourth">{{MR|P3II2}}, p. 205</ref> her body and spirit were consumed and she wished to be released from life everlasting, saying that there was no strength left in her to bear another child. Despite Finwë's grief, and her unhappiness at abandoning her young child, Míriel departed for the gardens of [[Lórien (Valinor)|Lórien]], to rest and regain her strength and vigour. But during her rest, the [[Fëa and hröa|fëa]] departed from her body, and entered the [[Halls of Mandos]] leaving her body lying lifeless and still in {{YT|1170}}.<ref name="Fourth"/> Maidens of [[Estë]] took care of her body while her spirit remained in the Halls of Mandos, so that it would not wither. In essence, she had died of free will. This was seen as a shocking event by the [[Valar]] and [[Eldar]] which had never before occurred.<ref name="Feanor">{{S|Feanor}}</ref>

But Finwë was in grief, and felt ashamed being the only Elf in Aman without a wife. [[Manwë]] summoned the Valar in Council, and the result was the '[[Statute of Finwë and Míriel]]', which only allowed re-marriage if the dead spouse refused to be re-embodied. [[Vairë]] told Míriel of this and of the sorrow of Finwë, but Míriel refused to come back to life. In words of the Valië: "''[The spirit of Míriel] is small, but it is strong and obdurate: one of those who having said ''this will I do'' make their words a law irrevocable unto themselves''". However, [[Mandos]] summoned the spirit of Míriel and warned her that she could change her will with the time, living in grievance till the end of Arda. But Míriel remained silent and Mandos accepted her choice.<ref>{{MR|P3II4}}, pp. 258-260</ref>

Years later, Finwë knew this doom, being allowed to marry again, having many other children with [[Indis]]. Fëanor was resentful of her, and observed her influence on Finwë, including his speech which started to resemble [[Vanyarin|that of the Vanyar]] and considered it a disrespect against his mother.<ref name=Shibboleth></ref>{{rp|336}}

After the deaths of Finwë and Fëanor, and the former spouses were reunited in the Halls of Mandos. Meeting Finwë again, Míriel felt lightened from her sadness and released of her reluctant will. She spoke him [[Ósanwe|in thought]], apologizing of her errors and promising to weave a tapestry about his people and children. Seeing that Míriel wished to come back to life, Finwë asked Vairë to allow it, while he would remain in the Halls of Mandos till the end of Arda with his son Fëanor. Mandos accepted this, and Míriel's spirit was released and went to her body in Lórien. Then she awoke again like from a dream, and was refreshed.

However, she was still sad and did not wish to come back with her people, so she went to the House of Vairë, being the only living creature to live there. She became the handmaid of Vairë, and fulfilled her promise, weaving historical webs telling the deeds of the Noldor.<ref>{{MR|P3II3d}}, pp. 248-250</ref>

==Etymology==
The name '''''Míriel''''' means "Jewel-daughter" in [[Quenya]], from ''[[mír]]'' ("jewel") and ''[[-iel]]'' ("daughter"). Her [[epessë]] '''''Þerindë''''', or '''''Serindë''''' in the [[Quenya]] of [[Tirion]], means "the Broideress", referring to her great skill in embroidery for 'her chief talent was a marvelous dexterity of hand', which she applied to her skill of embroidery, 'achieving in what even the Eldar thought haste' embroidery that 'was finer and more intricate than any that had before been seen'. It was her [[mother-name]].<ref name=Shibboleth>{{PM|Case}}</ref>{{rp|333}} It is to be noted that she preferred and requested her kin use the older pronunciation of ''Þerindë'', and that her son upheld the use of ''Þ'' over ''s'' out of respect and in her memory.<ref name=Shibboleth></ref>{{rp|336}}

After coming back to life, she was renamed '''''Fíriel''''', meaning "She that died" or "She that sighed". Till her death, Elves had no words for natural death, so they used the term ''fírë'' ("expire") because Míriel had sighed a deed breath in the moment of death. The term was associated with death, being used for the [[Gift of Men|death of Men]].<ref>{{MR|P3II3d}}, p. 250. Cf. also ''[[The Etymologies]]'', entry "PHIR"</ref>

==Genealogy==
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==Other versions of the legendarium==
In the beginning of ''[[The Shibboleth of Fëanor]]'', Fëanor is an adult, and Míriel is still alive. There the similarities between mother and son, such as their stubbornness, are revealed. Fëanor's reaction to his mother's death is also presented, as he guarded her [[Fëa and hröa|hröa]], which was placed in a garden, for some time after her passing.<ref name=Shibboleth></ref> In the published ''[[The Silmarillion|Silmarillion]]'', Míriel died soon after his birth.<ref name="Feanor"/>
{{references}}
{{DEFAULTSORT:Miriel Þerinde}}
[[Category:Characters in The Silmarillion]]
[[Category:First Age characters]]

[[Category:Noldor]]
[[Category:Quenya names]]

[[de:Míriel Þerinde]]
[[fi:Míriel]]

Míriel

2020-10-14T22:32:37Z

Mvoorhis: small sentence-repair; remarring --> re-marriage and renounced --> refused.

{{disambig-more|Míriel|[[Míriel (disambiguation)]]}}
{{noldor infobox
| name=Míriel
| image=[[File:MySilverGreen - Miriel.jpg|250px]]
| caption="Míriel" by [[:Category:Images by Mysilvergreen|Mysilvergreen]]
| pronun=[[Exilic Quenya|EQ]], {{IPA|[ˈmiːri.el θeˈrinde]}} [[Vanyarin Quenya|VQ]], {{IPA|[seˈrinde]}}
| othernames=''[[Þerindë]]'' ([[Quenya|Q]], "Broideress")
| titles=Queen of the Noldor
| position=
| location=[[Tirion]]
| affiliation=
| language=[[Common Eldarin]] and [[Quenya]]
| birth=
| birthlocation=
| rule=
| death={{YT|1170}}
| deathlocation=[[Lórien (Valinor)|Gardens of Lórien]] (Returned to life after {{YT|1495}})
| age=
| notablefor=
| house=
| parentage=
| siblings=
| spouse=[[Finwë]]
| children=[[Fëanor]]
| gender=Female
| height=
| hair=Silver<ref name="HairEye">{{MR|P3I6}}, p. 185</ref>
| eyes=Dark<ref name="HairEye"/>
| clothing=
| weapons=
| steed=
}}
{{quote|Míriel was the name of his mother, who was called Serindë, because of her surpassing skill in weaving and needlework; for her hands were more skilled to fineness than any hands even among the Noldor.|''[[Quenta Silmarillion]]'', "[[Of Fëanor and the Unchaining of Melkor]]"}}

'''Míriel Þerindë''', also spelled '''Serindë''', was the first wife of [[Finwë]], [[King of the Noldor]]. Her son was [[Curufinwë]], whom she called [[Fëanor|Fëanáro]], which means "Spirit of Fire". Miriel's hair was described as being silver in appearance, an unusual colour for one of the [[Noldor]].

==History==
Míriel lived in the blessed realm of [[Aman]], in the hill city of [[Tirion]] on [[Túna]], together with her husband [[Finwë]], King of the [[Noldor]]. Her hands were skilled in the shaping of fine things, and she was unsurpassed in weaving and needlework.
[[File:Francesco Amadio - Miriel and Feanaro.jpg|thumb|left|''Míriel and Feanáro'' by [[:Category:Images by Francesco Amadio|Francesco Amadio]]]]
There was much love between Míriel and Finwë, and even more for her son, but after giving birth to [[Fëanor]] in {{YT|1169}},<ref name="Fourth">{{MR|P3II2}}, p. 205</ref> her body and spirit were consumed and she wished to be released from life everlasting, saying that there was no strength left in her to bear another child. Despite Finwë's grief, and her unhappiness at abandoning her young child, Míriel departed for the gardens of [[Lórien (Valinor)|Lórien]], to rest and regain her strength and vigour. But during her rest, the [[Fëa and hröa|fëa]] departed from her body, and entered the [[Halls of Mandos]] leaving her body lying lifeless and still in {{YT|1170}}.<ref name="Fourth"/> Maidens of [[Estë]] took care of her body while her spirit remained in the Halls of Mandos, so that it would not wither. In essence, she had died of free will. This was seen as a shocking event by the [[Valar]] and [[Eldar]] which had never before occurred.<ref name="Feanor">{{S|Feanor}}</ref>

But Finwë was in grief, and felt ashamed being the only Elf in Aman without a wife. [[Manwë]] summoned the Valar in Council, and the result was the '[[Statute of Finwë and Míriel]]', which only allowed re-marriage if the dead spouse refused to be rembodied. [[Vairë]] told Míriel of this and of the sorrow of Finwë, but Míriel refused to come back to life. In words of the Valië: "''[The spirit of Míriel] is small, but it is strong and obdurate: one of those who having said ''this will I do'' make their words a law irrevocable unto themselves''". However, [[Mandos]] summoned the spirit of Míriel and warned her that she could change her will with the time, living in grievance till the end of Arda. But Míriel remained silent and Mandos accepted her choice.<ref>{{MR|P3II4}}, pp. 258-260</ref>

Years later, Finwë knew this doom, being allowed to marry again, having many other children with [[Indis]]. Fëanor was resentful of her, and observed her influence on Finwë, including his speech which started to resemble [[Vanyarin|that of the Vanyar]] and considered it a disrespect against his mother.<ref name=Shibboleth></ref>{{rp|336}}

After the deaths of Finwë and Fëanor, and the former spouses were reunited in the Halls of Mandos. Meeting Finwë again, Míriel felt lightened from her sadness and released of her reluctant will. She spoke him [[Ósanwe|in thought]], apologizing of her errors and promising to weave a tapestry about his people and children. Seeing that Míriel wished to come back to life, Finwë asked Vairë to allow it, while he would remain in the Halls of Mandos till the end of Arda with his son Fëanor. Mandos accepted this, and Míriel's spirit was released and went to her body in Lórien. Then she awoke again like from a dream, and was refreshed.

However, she was still sad and did not wish to come back with her people, so she went to the House of Vairë, being the only living creature to live there. She became the handmaid of Vairë, and fulfilled her promise, weaving historical webs telling the deeds of the Noldor.<ref>{{MR|P3II3d}}, pp. 248-250</ref>

==Etymology==
The name '''''Míriel''''' means "Jewel-daughter" in [[Quenya]], from ''[[mír]]'' ("jewel") and ''[[-iel]]'' ("daughter"). Her [[epessë]] '''''Þerindë''''', or '''''Serindë''''' in the [[Quenya]] of [[Tirion]], means "the Broideress", referring to her great skill in embroidery for 'her chief talent was a marvelous dexterity of hand', which she applied to her skill of embroidery, 'achieving in what even the Eldar thought haste' embroidery that 'was finer and more intricate than any that had before been seen'. It was her [[mother-name]].<ref name=Shibboleth>{{PM|Case}}</ref>{{rp|333}} It is to be noted that she preferred and requested her kin use the older pronunciation of ''Þerindë'', and that her son upheld the use of ''Þ'' over ''s'' out of respect and in her memory.<ref name=Shibboleth></ref>{{rp|336}}

After coming back to life, she was renamed '''''Fíriel''''', meaning "She that died" or "She that sighed". Till her death, Elves had no words for natural death, so they used the term ''fírë'' ("expire") because Míriel had sighed a deed breath in the moment of death. The term was associated with death, being used for the [[Gift of Men|death of Men]].<ref>{{MR|P3II3d}}, p. 250. Cf. also ''[[The Etymologies]]'', entry "PHIR"</ref>

==Genealogy==
{{familytree/start}}
{{familytree| MHT | | MIR |y| FIN |y| IND | | | | | | | | | | | | |MHT=[[Mahtan]] ''b. {{YT}}''| MIR='''MÍRIEL''' ''d. {{YT|1170}}''|FIN=[[Finwë]] ''d. {{YT|1495}}''|IND=[[Indis]] ''b. {{YT}}''}}
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{{familytree| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |!| | | | | | | | | |}}
{{familytree| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | CLB | | | | | | | | |CLB=[[Celebrimbor]] ''d. {{SA|1697}}''}}
{{familytree/end}}

==Other versions of the legendarium==
In the beginning of ''[[The Shibboleth of Fëanor]]'', Fëanor is an adult, and Míriel is still alive. There the similarities between mother and son, such as their stubbornness, are revealed. Fëanor's reaction to his mother's death is also presented, as he guarded her [[Fëa and hröa|hröa]], which was placed in a garden, for some time after her passing.<ref name=Shibboleth></ref> In the published ''[[The Silmarillion|Silmarillion]]'', Míriel died soon after his birth.<ref name="Feanor"/>
{{references}}
{{DEFAULTSORT:Miriel Þerinde}}
[[Category:Characters in The Silmarillion]]
[[Category:First Age characters]]

[[Category:Noldor]]
[[Category:Quenya names]]

[[de:Míriel Þerinde]]
[[fi:Míriel]]

Talk:The One Ring

2016-10-29T02:47:07Z

Mvoorhis: /* The Inscription- the films DIDN'T change this! */

==Rewrite==
I'm having some trouble with the current, one-sided view of Kjaerulff in the Symbolism part. Can't we put the view of Tolkien first, and only then other people's views? -- {{User:Ederchil/sig}} 21:45, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

==The Inscription- the films DIDN'T change this!==
I'm sitting here with the recent edition of The Fellowship of the Ring sitting in front of me- the one that was released in conjunction with the film triloy- and contrary to the article as it stands, the Ring's inscription DOES appear both on the interior and exterior curves.

Here's the passage verbatim, emphasis mine:
"As Frodo did so, he now saw fine lines, finer than the finest pen-strokes, running along the ring, '''outside and inside''': lines of fire that seemed to form the letters of a flowing script."
-"The Shadow of the Past", page 49 (at least in the copy I have before me).

So... in the interest of accuracy, could I change this? The films aren't running contrary to the books, at least according to THIS edition... so having that in the Portrayal in Adaptations section sort of irks me. [[User:Dinosaur bob|Dinosaur bob]] 19:01, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

::Hello Bob. Nice quote! I quickly read the article, but I couldn't find anywhere it explicitly says that the inscription would only be inside the ring (though I might have missed the passage). On the other hand, the article only says that the inscription turn up "on the ring", so using the info from your quote would improve the article, IMHO. My suggestion would be to cite the passage from ''The Shadow of the Past'' just below the heading of the section "Appearance" (starting "[Frodo] now saw fine lines, ...").

::As this is a core article, we should perhaps await some opinions from others. --[[User:Morgan|Morgan]] 19:20, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

:::Ederchil fast as usual! ;-) What do you think about using the quote, Ederchil? --[[User:Morgan|Morgan]] 19:23, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

::::See the part where it says "requires some clean up"? Like you say, it's a high profile page, but the quality is below standards. So, anything with a source is better than what we have now. Maybe we can make this our next collaboration, because [[Tuor]] is a bit down on love lately. -- {{User:Ederchil/sig}} 19:32, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

:Hmmm, Without reading all this discussion I came in and rewrote a sentence which had ended "inside the rim." I did this (as someone else said more than 6 years ago) in the interests of accuracy. All my other small changes were to help with the flow of the text and make it easier to read. I made this account immediately afterwards as I thought editing anonymously might be frowned upon. [[User:Mvoorhis|Mvoorhis]] 02:47, 29 October 2016 (UTC)