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User:Penngaladh

2008-05-13T20:34:24Z

Penngaladh:

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Hi, folks! I'm Penngaladh from Ardapedia.

As you might noticed, I haven't contributed anything yet. I'm sorry. But I will. I will at least do some interwiki linking. Moreover, I intend to place a [[:de:Benutzer:Bot_Tom|Bot]] in here, that's already doing some work at Ardapedia. Don't worry, I'll ask for permission first. Last but not least I might even take part in writing articles.

Some more details will follow when I'm taking somewhat more part in Tolkien Gateway. So long!

PS: [http://youtube.com/watch?v=m4yVlPqeZwo&feature=user Vote for Obama!]

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Forums:Bot

2008-04-04T05:43:21Z

Penngaladh:

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Hi! I've written a bot for making life easier over at Ardapedia and I'm hereby asking for permission to place the bot here at Tolkien Gateway, too.

But why would you need a bot? Well, it can do stuff like searching for regular expressions in a list of pages (like "all pages", or "pages in category XYZ", or page "X", "Y" and "Z") and then edit those pages (i.e. moving all pages from one category to another). In some not that distant future the bot will get an own database and become somewhat more intelligent. But what I really intended to write the bot for was automatic interwiki linking (even though, it turns out the bot is already quite handy with just some basic features).

The framework the bot is built on I wrote on my own (and it's available [http://freifunk-halle.de/~konstantin/rubot/ here]), but works pretty well. --[[User:Penngaladh|Penngaladh]] 05:41, 1 April 2008 (EDT)

:Hey there Penngaladh! I've been meaning to get a bot installed and play around with one, as the interwiki linking does seem to be rather tedious. You of course have our permission to use the bot here, as does anyone. As long as it is used to improve the wiki, why not? :) I'll try and think of some other repetitive tasks we could use a bot for. Thanks for your help! --[[User:Hyarion|Hyarion]] 15:12, 1 April 2008 (EDT)

::If this is possible, I think it would be a good idea to have a bot that would update pages after an infobox change. Some of the infoboxes have the potential to be changed but have extremely widespread use (such as locations and objects). If we decided to, say, add a field, we would need to update every single one of the pages that include it. With such a bot, it would be a whole lot easier. Of course, that wouldn't mean the field would be filled - just that it would be there so that there is no {{{-}}}. --[[User:Narfil Palùrfalas|Narfil Palùrfalas]] 20:09, 1 April 2008 (EDT)

:::That should be possible. Sorry, didn't check here since I did a lot of programming and stuff (some bot improvements, more to be expected). BTW: I created [[User:Bot Tom|an account]] for the bot, so some admin could set the bot flag. --[[User:Penngaladh|Penngaladh]] 01:43, 4 April 2008 (EDT)

Forums:Bot

2008-04-01T09:41:54Z

Penngaladh:

User:Penngaladh

2008-04-01T09:20:35Z

Penngaladh:

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Hi, folks! I'm Penngaladh from Ardapedia.

As you might noticed, I haven't contributed anything yet. I'm sorry. But I will. I will at least do some interwiki linking. Moreover, I intend to place a [[:de:Benutzer:Bot_Tom|Bot]] in here, that's already doing some work at Ardapedia. Don't worry, I'll ask for permission first. Last but not least I might even take part in writing articles.

Some more details will follow when I'm taking somewhat more part in Tolkien Gateway. So long!

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2008-04-01T09:02:15Z

Penngaladh:

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User:Penngaladh

2008-03-27T00:07:29Z

Penngaladh:

Hi, folks!

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User:Penngaladh

2008-02-28T11:30:01Z

Penngaladh:

Hi, folks!

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User talk:Penngaladh

2008-02-28T11:28:22Z

Penngaladh:

Awakening of the Elves

2008-02-28T11:18:09Z

Penngaladh: iw

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The '''Awakening of the Elves''' is an event which took place long before the beginning of the [[First Age]] of [[Middle-earth]].

According to a legend of the [[Elves]], the first Elves were awakened by [[Eru Ilúvatar]] near the bay of [[Cuiviénen]]. The first Elf to awake was called '''[[Imin]]''' ("First"). Next to him lay '''[[Iminyë]]''', who would become his wife. Near where Imin woke, awoke '''[[Tata]]''' ("Second") and '''[[Tatië]]''', and '''[[Enel]]''' ("Third") and '''[[Enelyë]]'''.

Imin, Tata, and Enel and their wives joined up, and walked through the forests. They first came across six pairs of Elves, and Imin, as eldest, claimed them as his people, and woke them. After a short time Imin and his people, together with Tata and Enel, continued their journey. Next, they came across nine pairs of Elves, and Tata as second eldest, claimed them as his people. After a short time the now thirty-six Elves continued their journey. Then they found twelve pairs of Elves, and Enel, as third eldest, claimed them as his people.

For many days the now sixty Elves dwelt by the rivers, and they began to invent poetry and music.

Finally they set out again, but Imin thought to himself that since each time they had found more Elves, and his folk was least in size, he would now choose last.

They came across eighteen pairs of Elves, who were watching the stars, and Tata and Enel waited for Imin to claim them for his people, but Imin told them he would wait, so Tata added them to his folk. They were tall and had dark hair, and they were the fathers of most of the [[Ñoldor]] of later times.

The ninety-six Elves now spoke with each other and invented many new words, but then they continued their journey. Next they found twenty-four pairs of Elves, who were singing without language, and again Imin was offered the choice, but refused. Therefore Enel chose them as his people, and from them came most of the [[Lindar]] or singers of later times.

And the hundred and forty-four Elves now dwelt long together, until all had learned the same language, and they were glad. But then Imin said it was time to seek more companions for him, but most of the others were content and did not join him. So Imin and Iminyë and their twelve companions set out alone, and they searched long near Cuiviénen, but never found any more companions.

And because all Elves had been found in pairs of twelves twelve became the number they counted with ever after, and 144 was for long their highest number, and in none of their later tongues was there therefore any common name for a greater number.

After the tale of the Awakening of the Elves the ''[[Companions of Imin]]'' or the [[Eldest Company]] (the later [[Vanyar]]) numbered fourteen, and they remained the smallest company. The ''[[Companions of Tata]]'' (half of whom became the Ñoldor) numbered fifty-six, and they remained the second-largest company. The ''[[Companions of Enel]]'' (the later Lindar or [[Teleri]]) were the largest company, numbering seventy-four.

[[Melkor]] was the first to learn of the Awakening. He soon began sending evil spirits among the Elves, who planted seeds of doubt against the [[Valar]]. It is also rumoured that some of the Elves were being captured by a Rider if they strayed too far, and as later turned out these were brought to [[Utumno]] and twisted into [[Orcs]].

[[Oromë]] one day came across the Elves, and realized who they were. At first the Elves were suspicious of him, fearing he was the Rider who captured the Elves, and because of the lies of Melkor. Nevertheless, three lords of the Elves agreed to come with Oromë to [[Valinor]]. These were [[Ingwë]] of the ''[[Minyar]]'' (later ''Vanyar''), [[Finwë]] of the ''[[Tatyar]]'' (later ''Ñoldor''), and [[Elwë]] of the ''Lindar''. In due time, Ingwë, Finwë and Elwë returned to Cuiviénen, and told the Elves of the glory of Valinor, and there befell the [[Sundering of the Elves]]. All the Minyar and half of the Tatyar were persuaded, along with most of the Lindar, and followed Oromë into the west on the [[Great Journey]]. These have been known ever since by the name [[Eldar]], or "Star-folk", which Oromë gave to them in their own language. The remainder of the Tatyar and Lindar remained suspicious, or simply refused to depart from their own lands, and spread gradually throughout the wide lands of Middle-earth. They were after known by the name [[Avari]], because the refused the summons. Avari means "the Unwilling" in [[Quenya]], the language of the Eldar that eventually reached Valinor.

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The tale of Imin, Tata and Enel, known as '''''[[Cuivienyarna]]''''', was a very late writing by Tolkien, written as part of ''[[Quendi and Eldar]]''. They replaced Ingwë, Finwë and Elwë as the eldest Elves, who now merely became the first ambassadors and the Kings of the Elves in exile.

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User talk:Swyft

2008-02-26T10:37:30Z

Penngaladh: interwiki discussion

'''{{PAGENAME}}, welcome!'''

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:Hello Hyarion, thank you. I think I will use this account mainly for Interwiki links to the Ardapedia. --[[User:Swyft|swyft]] 15:15, 28 October 2007 (EDT)

::Sounds good, I've been trying to think of the most efficient means of adding the links, so far I think our best bet is to use Special:Allpages and just compare the pages. It might be feasible to create a script to automatically crawl the Allpages looking for identical articles, but that might be more work than it's worth. As long as when we add a link, we make sure to add it across all the wikis I think we should be fine. --[[User:Hyarion|Hyarion]] 17:02, 28 October 2007 (EDT)

:::I think you're right. I dont't have any experience with scripts, so I know if that would be possible or useful and how much work it would be to write one. In the Ardapedia we have lists of names that were translated for the german versions of ''The Hobbit/Der Hobbit'', ''The Lord of the Rings/Der Herr der Ringe'' and ''The Silmarillion/Das Silmarillion'' that might be useful; for LotR and Sil there are lists for persons/Personen, places/Orte and things/Sachen or other/Sonstiges. They can be found in the [[:de:Kategorie:Übersetzungen]], are sorted by the english name and contain links to our german articles. Do you have contact to the finnish Kontu? As far as I can see, they don't have activated interwiki-links to the Tolkien Gateway and the Ardapedia yet. Greetings, --[[User:Swyft|swyft]] 09:04, 29 October 2007 (EDT)

::::Ah those lists will definitely be helpful. I've been talking to Merri on irc.tolkiengateway.net, he said he's been busy but will get them added soon. We might as well just start on the English/German links as when Kontu gets around to adding the interwiki links all they'll have to do is translate it into English, and they can see the German translation by the link already present in the article. --[[User:Hyarion|Hyarion]] 11:55, 29 October 2007 (EDT)

:::::OK, thanks. --[[User:Swyft|swyft]] 12:07, 29 October 2007 (EDT)

::::::Merri has added the interwiki ability to [http://kontu.info/wiki/Etusivu Kontu]. I'll try and get the editors over there to help with the linking. --[[User:Hyarion|Hyarion]] 12:38, 4 November 2007 (EST)

:::::::Great, thank you. --[[User:Swyft|swyft]] 06:40, 6 November 2007 (EST)

::::::::I btw would volunteer to write some script doing most of the interwiki linking. I've been planning to write a wiki bot for some time now, just there was no need for yet another bot in Wikipedia and all the other wikis I've been dealing with are way too small, but this might just be what I've been waiting for. The bot could even parse some tables with translations. --[[User:Penngaladh|Penngaladh]] 05:37, 26 February 2008 (EST)