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Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor

2020-05-26T04:08:37Z

Shelob'sWeb: changed title

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{{video game infobox
| image = [[File:Shadow of Mordor - Cover art.jpg|250px]]
| name = Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor
| developer = [[Monolith Productions]]
| publisher = [[Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment]]
| platform = PC, Playstation 3, Playstation 4, Xbox 360, Xbox One
| releasedate = [[30 September]] [[2014]]
| genre = [[wikipedia:Action role-playing|Action role-playing]]
| modes =
| rating =
| distribution =
}}

'''''Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor''''' is an open world action-adventure video game developed by [[Monolith Productions]]. Released in 2014, the story takes place between ''[[The Hobbit]]'' and ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]'', acting as a bridge between the two eras. The protagonist's name is Talion, a [[Gondorian]] [[Ranger]] stationed at the [[Black Gate]]. Talion's family is slain the night the Dark Lord [[Sauron]] and his [[Uruk-Hai]] forces return to reclaim [[Mordor]], setting the Ranger on a quest for revenge after he is possessed and sustained from death by a mysterious [[Wraith]].

==Plot synopsis==
The family of [[Talion]], a ranger who guards the black gates into [[Mordor]], is brutally killed by the [[Black Hand of Sauron]]. Talion is also killed but is brought back to life merged with a wraith that gives him inhuman powers. He ventures into Mordor to exact revenge and to help the [[Celebrimbor|wraith]] find his past identity and what brings the two together.

==Gameplay==
''Shadow of Mordor'' is an open-world action/adventure game that is set entirely within Mordor.<ref>{{webcite|author=Chris Plante|articleurl=http://www.theverge.com/2014/10/1/6881161/middle-earth-shadow-of-mordor-torture-terrorism|articlename='Shadow of Mordor' is morally repulsive and I can't stop playing it|dated=31-May-2011|website=[http://www.theverge.com The Verge]|accessed=July 29, 2015}}</ref> The overworld is mainly populated by [[Uruk-hai|Uruks]], as well as never-before-seen creatures, such as the cat-like Caragors and troll-like Graugs.

One defining feature of the game is the Nemesis System, which allows the game to remember Uruks of a certain notability and track their progress as they rise from lowly soldiers to high-ranking captains and even war-chiefs. Most of these Uruks are randomly-generated and can vary in appearance, name, personality, and strengths/weaknesses. the Captains can randomly be found among the anonymous masses, though the war-chiefs can only be encountered by completing certain objectives to draw them out of hiding.

There are a number of tactics and strategies that can be exploited to kill Uruks: In addition to killing them in normal combat, one can also poison a nearby barrel of grog and let Uruk-hai drink from it, grapple them and throw them over the edge of a cliff or platform, set Caragors loose on them by breaking open their cages, launch sneak attacks from above or behind, or "brand" Uruks with the Wraith's powers to brainwash them and pit them against other Orcs.

==Differences between versions==
The Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 versions of the game are severely lacking in comparison to their counterparts for Microsoft Windows, PlayStation 4, and Xbox One: The PS3/360 versions features a simplified Nemesis system, poor framerate, longer loading times, and Graugs are very rarely encountered outside of missions. As such, the hunting challenges involving the Graugs and their variants are omitted from these versions of the game.

==In Depth Summary==
The family of Talion, a ranger who guards the black gates into Mordor, is brutally killed by the Black Hand of Sauron. Talion is also killed but is brought back to life merged with a wraith that gives him inhuman powers. He ventures into Mordor to exact revenge and to help the wraith find his past identity and what brings the two together. Through a series of quests with [[Gollum]], Talion and the wraith find relics that give the wraith his memories back in the form of visions. After completing all three Gollum Quests, the wraith is revealed to be Celebrimbor, the elven blacksmith who was tricked into forging the rings of power by Sauron during the [[Second Age]]. Talion also reunites with a fellow ranger, [[Hirgon]] and in a series of missions saves Hirgon's wife, poisons orc grog, and helps the rangers destroy a statue of Sauron in Mordor. Talion and Celebrimbor also meet an orc named Ratbag the Coward. Talion frees Ratbag from his binds and makes a deal; Ratbag will rank up in Sauron's army as long as he helps Talion kill the warchiefs. After three quests, Ratbag becomes a warchief and the deal is ended. After all of the previous missions, Talion attracts the attention of The [[Hammer of Sauron]]. The Hammer kills Ratbag, the only remaining warchief, for his insolence and Talion kills the Hammer.

==Voice cast==
{| class="wikitable"
|- bgcolor="#CCCCCC"
! Role !! Actor
|-
| [[Talion]] || [[Troy Baker]]
|-
| [[Celebrimbor|The Wraith]] || [[Alister Duncan]]
|-
| Hirgon of Tarnost || Travis Willingham
|-
| The [[Black Hand]] || [[Nolan North]]
|-
| The Hammer of Sauron || John DiMaggio
|-
| [[Sauron]] || [[Steve Blum]]
|-
| Torvin || Adam Croasdell
|-
| Ioreth || Laura Bailey
|-
| [[Gollum]] || Liam O'Brien
|-
| [[Galadriel]] || [[Jennifer Hale]]
|-
| Ratbag the Coward || Phil Lamarr
|-
| Queen Marwen || Claudia Black
|-
| Dirhael || Jack Quaid
|-
| [[Saruman]] || [[Roger Jackson]]
|-
| Ship Captain || [[Jason Connery ]]
|-
|Additional voices ||[[Yuri Lowenthal]]
|-
|Additional voices || JB Blanc
|-
|Additional voices || Chris Cox
|}

{{references}}

==See also==
* [[:Category:Images from Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor|Images from Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor]]

== External links ==
* '''[http://www.shadowofmordor.com/agegate/ Official website]'''

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Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor

2020-03-03T17:55:05Z

Shelob'sWeb: /* Plot synopsis With Spoilers */

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{{video game infobox
| image = [[File:Shadow of Mordor - Cover art.jpg|250px]]
| name = Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor
| developer = [[Monolith Productions]]
| publisher = [[Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment]]
| platform = PC, Playstation 3, Playstation 4, Xbox 360, Xbox One
| releasedate = [[30 September]] [[2014]]
| genre = [[wikipedia:Action role-playing|Action role-playing]]
| modes =
| rating =
| distribution =
}}

'''''Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor''''' is an open world action-adventure video game developed by [[Monolith Productions]]. Released in 2014, the story takes place between ''[[The Hobbit]]'' and ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]'', acting as a bridge between the two eras. The protagonist's name is Talion, a [[Gondorian]] [[Ranger]] stationed at the [[Black Gate]]. Talion's family is slain the night the Dark Lord [[Sauron]] and his [[Uruk-Hai]] forces return to reclaim [[Mordor]], setting the Ranger on a quest for revenge after he is possessed and sustained from death by a mysterious [[Wraith]].

==Plot synopsis==
The family of [[Talion]], a ranger who guards the black gates into [[Mordor]], is brutally killed by the [[Black Hand of Sauron]]. Talion is also killed but is brought back to life merged with a wraith that gives him inhuman powers. He ventures into Mordor to exact revenge and to help the [[Celebrimbor|wraith]] find his past identity and what brings the two together.

==Gameplay==
''Shadow of Mordor'' is an open-world action/adventure game that is set entirely within Mordor.<ref>{{webcite|author=Chris Plante|articleurl=http://www.theverge.com/2014/10/1/6881161/middle-earth-shadow-of-mordor-torture-terrorism|articlename='Shadow of Mordor' is morally repulsive and I can't stop playing it|dated=31-May-2011|website=[http://www.theverge.com The Verge]|accessed=July 29, 2015}}</ref> The overworld is mainly populated by [[Uruk-hai|Uruks]], as well as never-before-seen creatures, such as the cat-like Caragors and troll-like Graugs.

One defining feature of the game is the Nemesis System, which allows the game to remember Uruks of a certain notability and track their progress as they rise from lowly soldiers to high-ranking captains and even war-chiefs. Most of these Uruks are randomly-generated and can vary in appearance, name, personality, and strengths/weaknesses. the Captains can randomly be found among the anonymous masses, though the war-chiefs can only be encountered by completing certain objectives to draw them out of hiding.

There are a number of tactics and strategies that can be exploited to kill Uruks: In addition to killing them in normal combat, one can also poison a nearby barrel of grog and let Uruk-hai drink from it, grapple them and throw them over the edge of a cliff or platform, set Caragors loose on them by breaking open their cages, launch sneak attacks from above or behind, or "brand" Uruks with the Wraith's powers to brainwash them and pit them against other Orcs.

==Differences between versions==
The Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 versions of the game are severely lacking in comparison to their counterparts for Microsoft Windows, PlayStation 4, and Xbox One: The PS3/360 versions features a simplified Nemesis system, poor framerate, longer loading times, and Graugs are very rarely encountered outside of missions. As such, the hunting challenges involving the Graugs and their variants are omitted from these versions of the game.

==Plot synopsis With Spoilers==
The family of Talion, a ranger who guards the black gates into Mordor, is brutally killed by the Black Hand of Sauron. Talion is also killed but is brought back to life merged with a wraith that gives him inhuman powers. He ventures into Mordor to exact revenge and to help the wraith find his past identity and what brings the two together. Through a series of quests with [[Gollum]], Talion and the wraith find relics that give the wraith his memories back in the form of visions. After completing all three Gollum Quests, the wraith is revealed to be Celebrimbor, the elven blacksmith who was tricked into forging the rings of power by Sauron during the [[Second Age]]. Talion also reunites with a fellow ranger, [[Hirgon]] and in a series of missions saves Hirgon's wife, poisons orc grog, and helps the rangers destroy a statue of Sauron in Mordor. Talion and Celebrimbor also meet an orc named Ratbag the Coward. Talion frees Ratbag from his binds and makes a deal; Ratbag will rank up in Sauron's army as long as he helps Talion kill the warchiefs. After three quests, Ratbag becomes a warchief and the deal is ended. After all of the previous missions, Talion attracts the attention of The [[Hammer of Sauron]]. The Hammer kills Ratbag, the only remaining warchief, for his insolence and Talion kills the Hammer.

==Voice cast==
{| class="wikitable"
|- bgcolor="#CCCCCC"
! Role !! Actor
|-
| [[Talion]] || [[Troy Baker]]
|-
| [[Celebrimbor|The Wraith]] || [[Alister Duncan]]
|-
| Hirgon of Tarnost || Travis Willingham
|-
| The [[Black Hand]] || [[Nolan North]]
|-
| The Hammer of Sauron || John DiMaggio
|-
| [[Sauron]] || [[Steve Blum]]
|-
| Torvin || Adam Croasdell
|-
| Ioreth || Laura Bailey
|-
| [[Gollum]] || Liam O'Brien
|-
| [[Galadriel]] || [[Jennifer Hale]]
|-
| Ratbag the Coward || Phil Lamarr
|-
| Queen Marwen || Claudia Black
|-
| Dirhael || Jack Quaid
|-
| [[Saruman]] || [[Roger Jackson]]
|-
| Ship Captain || [[Jason Connery ]]
|-
|Additional voices ||[[Yuri Lowenthal]]
|-
|Additional voices || JB Blanc
|-
|Additional voices || Chris Cox
|}

{{references}}

==See also==
* [[:Category:Images from Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor|Images from Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor]]

== External links ==
* '''[http://www.shadowofmordor.com/agegate/ Official website]'''

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[[Category:Adventure games]]
[[Category:Microsoft Windows games]]
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Middle-earth: Shadow of War

2020-03-02T17:38:48Z

Shelob'sWeb: /* Plot */

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{{video game infobox
| image = [[File:Shadow of War - Cover art.jpg|250px]]
| name = Middle-earth: Shadow of War
| developer = [[Monolith Productions]]
| publisher = [[Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment]]
| platform = PC, Playstation 4, Xbox 360, Xbox One
| releasedate = [[10 October]] [[2017]]
| genre = [[wikipedia:Action role-playing|Action role-playing]]
| modes =
| rating =
| distribution =
}}
'''''Middle-earth: Shadow of War''''' is an open world, action-adventure roleplaying video game developed by [[Monolith Productions]]. A sequel to the 2014 game ''[[Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor]]'', ''Shadow of War'' was released on 10 October 2017<ref>{{webcite|author=Tom Phillips|articlename=Middle-earth: Shadow of War release date delayed|dated=1 June 2017|website=Eurogamer.net|articleurl=http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-06-01-middle-earth-shadow-of-war-release-date-delayed|accessed=2 June 2017}}</ref> for the Playstation 4, Xbox One, and Microsoft Windows. Set between the events of ''[[The Hobbit]]'' and ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]'', the game follows the continuing adventures of [[Gondorian]] Ranger [[Talion]] and the Elf-wraith [[Celebrimbor]] in their campaign against [[Sauron]].<ref>{{webcite|author=James Orry|articlename=Middle-earth: Shadow of War confirmed for Project Scorpio|dated=28 February 2017|website=Video Gamer|articleurl=http://www.videogamer.com/news/middle-earth-shadow-of-war-confirmed-for-project-scorpio|accessed=3 May 2017}}</ref>

==Plot==
The player continues the story of the ranger [[Talion]] and the spirit of the elf lord [[Celebrimbor]], who shares Talion's body, as they forge a new Ring of Power to amass an army to fight against Sauron. At the beginning of the story, Celebrimbor is captured by [[Shelob]], the spider of [[Cirith Ungol]]. Talion seeks him out and eventually tracks the Bright Lord. Shelob turns into a humane form and forces Talion to trade the Ring for Celebrimbor. The [[Talion|gravewalker]] travels to Minas Ithil to retrieve the Palantir, but sees the fortress being attacked. He kills an orc captain with the help of Idril, Lord Castamir's daughter. Celebrimbor advises Talion against staying with the [[Gondorians]], but the gravewalker refuses to leave his kin. When the Witch King and the Nazgul come to raid Minas Ithil, Talion stays to help.

==Voice cast==
{| class="wikitable"
|- bgcolor="#CCCCCC"
! Role !! Actor
|-
| [[Talion]] || [[Troy Baker]]
|-
| [[Celebrimbor|The Wraith]] || [[Alister Duncan]]
|-
| Eltariel || [[Laura Bailey]]
|-
| [[Isildur]] / Tarandor / Zog / Nemesis Orcs / Humans || [[Nolan North]]
|-
| Nazgul || [[Darin De Paul]]
|-
| [[Sauron]] || [[Steve Blum]]
|-
| Torvin || [[Adam Croasdell]]
|-
| Ioreth || [[Laura Bailey]]
|-
| [[Gollum]] || [[Liam O'Brien]]
|-
| [[Galadriel]] || [[Jennifer Hale]]
|-
| Ratbag the Coward || [[Phil Lamarr]]
|-
| Queen Marwen || [[Claudia Black]]
|-
| Dirhael || [[Jack Quaid]]
|-
| Idril / Helm's Daughter || [[Nicole Tompkins]]
|}

{{references}}

==See also==
* [[:Category:Images from Middle-earth: Shadow of War|Images from Middle-earth: Shadow of War]]
* ''[[Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor]]''

== External links ==
* '''[http://www.shadowofwar.com/ Official website]'''

{{Videogames}}
[[Category:Action games]]
[[Category:Adventure games]]
[[Category:Microsoft Windows games]]
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[[Category:PlayStation 4 games]]
[[Category:Role playing games]]
[[Category:Xbox 360 games]]
[[Category:Xbox One games]]
[[Category:Warner Bros. Interactive games]]

Middle-earth: Shadow of War

2020-02-04T16:44:54Z

Shelob'sWeb: /* Plot */ added a little about intro cutscene

{{Expansion}}
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{{video game infobox
| image = [[File:Shadow of War - Cover art.jpg|250px]]
| name = Middle-earth: Shadow of War
| developer = [[Monolith Productions]]
| publisher = [[Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment]]
| platform = PC, Playstation 4, Xbox 360, Xbox One
| releasedate = [[10 October]] [[2017]]
| genre = [[wikipedia:Action role-playing|Action role-playing]]
| modes =
| rating =
| distribution =
}}
'''''Middle-earth: Shadow of War''''' is an open world, action-adventure roleplaying video game developed by [[Monolith Productions]]. A sequel to the 2014 game ''[[Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor]]'', ''Shadow of War'' was released on 10 October 2017<ref>{{webcite|author=Tom Phillips|articlename=Middle-earth: Shadow of War release date delayed|dated=1 June 2017|website=Eurogamer.net|articleurl=http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-06-01-middle-earth-shadow-of-war-release-date-delayed|accessed=2 June 2017}}</ref> for the Playstation 4, Xbox One, and Microsoft Windows. Set between the events of ''[[The Hobbit]]'' and ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]'', the game follows the continuing adventures of [[Gondorian]] Ranger [[Talion]] and the Elf-wraith [[Celebrimbor]] in their campaign against [[Sauron]].<ref>{{webcite|author=James Orry|articlename=Middle-earth: Shadow of War confirmed for Project Scorpio|dated=28 February 2017|website=Video Gamer|articleurl=http://www.videogamer.com/news/middle-earth-shadow-of-war-confirmed-for-project-scorpio|accessed=3 May 2017}}</ref>

==Plot==
The player continues the story of the ranger [[Talion]] and the spirit of the elf lord [[Celebrimbor]], who shares Talion's body, as they forge a new Ring of Power to amass an army to fight against Sauron. At the beginning of the story, Celebrimbor is captured by [[Shelob]], the spider of [[Cirith Ungol]]. Talion seeks him out and eventually tracks the Bright Lord. Shelob turns into a humane form and forces Talion to trade the Ring for Celebrimbor.

==Voice cast==
{| class="wikitable"
|- bgcolor="#CCCCCC"
! Role !! Actor
|-
| [[Talion]] || [[Troy Baker]]
|-
| [[Celebrimbor|The Wraith]] || [[Alister Duncan]]
|-
| Eltariel || [[Laura Bailey]]
|-
| [[Isildur]] / Tarandor / Zog / Nemesis Orcs / Humans || [[Nolan North]]
|-
| Nazgul || [[Darin De Paul]]
|-
| [[Sauron]] || [[Steve Blum]]
|-
| Torvin || [[Adam Croasdell]]
|-
| Ioreth || [[Laura Bailey]]
|-
| [[Gollum]] || [[Liam O'Brien]]
|-
| [[Galadriel]] || [[Jennifer Hale]]
|-
| Ratbag the Coward || [[Phil Lamarr]]
|-
| Queen Marwen || [[Claudia Black]]
|-
| Dirhael || [[Jack Quaid]]
|-
| Idril / Helm's Daughter || [[Nicole Tompkins]]
|}

{{references}}

==See also==
* [[:Category:Images from Middle-earth: Shadow of War|Images from Middle-earth: Shadow of War]]
* ''[[Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor]]''

== External links ==
* '''[http://www.shadowofwar.com/ Official website]'''

{{Videogames}}
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[[Category:Adventure games]]
[[Category:Microsoft Windows games]]
[[Category:Open world games]]
[[Category:PlayStation 4 games]]
[[Category:Role playing games]]
[[Category:Xbox 360 games]]
[[Category:Xbox One games]]
[[Category:Warner Bros. Interactive games]]

Talion

2020-01-30T19:01:01Z

Shelob'sWeb: Added to Talion bio; mentioned Celebrimbor

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| name=Talion
| image=[[File:Shadow of War - Talion.jpg|250px]]
| caption=Talion as depicted in ''[[Middle-earth: Shadow of War]]''
| pronun=
| othernames=Ranger<br />The Gravewalker <br />The Bright Lord (alongside Celebrimbor)
| titles=
| position=Captain
| location=[[Gondor]]
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'''Talion''' is a character created for the video-game ''[[Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor]]'' who served as the captain of the Rangers of Gondor. He was married to Ioreth and had a son with her, named Dirhael, and both were killed by servants of [[Sauron]]. He seeks vengeance on Sauron for killing his family and is allied with the wraith of [[Celebrimbor]], who wishes the same. a

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2020-01-30T18:44:06Z

Shelob'sWeb:

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==Can you add some pictures for me?==

Hey Mith! I've gotten really into the Shadow of Mordor games and I wanted to write some articles! I've been working on expanding the Shadow of Mordor and Shadow of War articles, but I am also making some on the side characters. I'm currently working on one for Ratbag The Coward. When it's done, could you add some pictures for me?

User talk:Jusuntgepear

2020-01-28T15:59:28Z

Shelob'sWeb: Greetings!

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-- [[User:Mith|<span style="color:#2F4F4F">'''Mith'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Mith|<span style="color:#696969">'''Talk'''</span>]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mith|<span style="color:#708090">Contribs</span>]]/[[Special:Editcount/Mith/Edits|<span style="color:#778899">Edits</span>]])</small> 15:28, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Welcome! Mith is kinda the head-hauncho here, so if you need anything, you should probably ask him because I've been here for almost six months and I still don't understand everything.

-Shelob's Web

User:Shelob'sWeb

2020-01-24T16:32:59Z

Shelob'sWeb:

Shelob's Web is a new user on Tolkien Gateway, joining in August of 2019. He is currently developing a 10 part Middle-Earth Study for YouTube as well as a brickfilm inspired by The Riders of Rohan. He owns almost every LEGO The Hobbit and LOTR Set released and is looking to purchase the rest.

Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor

2020-01-09T18:49:00Z

Shelob'sWeb: Added links, and also created 1/2 of a spoiler summary. I will finish the other half when I have time, I'm just stopping to save my progress.

{{incomplete}}
{{video game infobox
| image = [[File:Shadow of Mordor - Cover art.jpg|250px]]
| name = Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor
| developer = [[Monolith Productions]]
| publisher = [[Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment]]
| platform = PC, Playstation 3, Playstation 4, Xbox 360, Xbox One
| releasedate = [[30 September]] [[\2014]]
| genre = [[wikipedia:Action role-playing|Action role-playing]]
| modes =
| rating =
| distribution =
}}

'''''Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor''''' is an open world action-adventure video game developed by [[Monolith Productions]]. Released in 2014, the story takes place between ''[[The Hobbit]]'' and ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]'', acting as a bridge between the two eras. The protagonist's name is Talion, a [[Gondorian]] [[Ranger]] stationed at the [[Black Gate]]. Talion's family is slain the night the Dark Lord [[Sauron]] and his [[Uruk-Hai]] forces return to reclaim [[Mordor]], setting the Ranger on a quest for revenge after he is possessed and sustained from death by a mysterious [[Wraith]].

==Plot synopsis==
The family of [[Talion]], a ranger who guards the black gates into [[Mordor]], is brutally killed by the [[Black Hand of Sauron]]. Talion is also killed but is brought back to life merged with a wraith that gives him inhuman powers. He ventures into Mordor to exact revenge and to help the [[Celebrimbor|wraith]] find his past identity and what brings the two together.

==Gameplay==
''Shadow of Mordor'' is an open-world action/adventure game that is set entirely within Mordor.<ref>{{webcite|author=Chris Plante|articleurl=http://www.theverge.com/2014/10/1/6881161/middle-earth-shadow-of-mordor-torture-terrorism|articlename='Shadow of Mordor' is morally repulsive and I can't stop playing it|dated=31-May-2011|website=[http://www.theverge.com The Verge]|accessed=July 29, 2015}}</ref> The overworld is mainly populated by [[Uruk-hai|Uruks]], as well as never-before-seen creatures, such as the cat-like Caragors and troll-like Graugs.

One defining feature of the game is the Nemesis System, which allows the game to remember Uruks of a certain notability and track their progress as they rise from lowly soldiers to high-ranking captains and even war-chiefs. Most of these Uruks are randomly-generated and can vary in appearance, name, personality, and strengths/weaknesses. the Captains can randomly be found among the anonymous masses, though the war-chiefs can only be encountered by completing certain objectives to draw them out of hiding.

There are a number of tactics and strategies that can be exploited to kill Uruks: In addition to killing them in normal combat, one can also poison a nearby barrel of grog and let Uruk-hai drink from it, grapple them and throw them over the edge of a cliff or platform, set Caragors loose on them by breaking open their cages, launch sneak attacks from above or behind, or "brand" Uruks with the Wraith's powers to brainwash them and pit them against other Orcs.

==Differences between versions==
The Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 versions of the game are severely lacking in comparison to their counterparts for Microsoft Windows, PlayStation 4, and Xbox One: The PS3/360 versions features a simplified Nemesis system, poor framerate, longer loading times, and Graugs are very rarely encountered outside of missions. As such, the hunting challenges involving the Graugs and their variants are omitted from these versions of the game.

==Plot synopsis With Spoilers==
The family of Talion, a ranger who guards the black gates into Mordor, is brutally killed by the Black Hand of Sauron. Talion is also killed but is brought back to life merged with a wraith that gives him inhuman powers. He ventures into Mordor to exact revenge and to help the wraith find his past identity and what brings the two together. Through a series of quests with [[Gollum]], Talion and the wraith find relics that give the wraith his memories back in the form of visions. Once completing all three Gollum Quests, the wraith is revealed to be Celebrimbor, the elven blacksmith who was tricked into forging the rings by Sauron during the [[Second Age]]. Talion also reacquaints with a fellow ranger, [[Hirgon]] and in a series of missions saves Hirgon's wife, poisons orc food supply, and helps the rangers destroy the statue of Sauron in Mordor. Talion and Celebrimbor also meet an orc named [[Ratbag the Coward]]. Talion frees Ratbag from his binds and makes a deal; Ratbag will rank up in Sauron's army as long as he helps Talion kill the warchiefs. So after 3 quests, Ratbag becomes a warchief and the deal is ended. After all of the previous mission, you attract the attention of The [[Hammer of Sauron]]. The Hammer kills Ratbag, the only remaining warchief, for his insolence, and Talion kills the Hammer.

==Voice cast==
{| class="wikitable"
|- bgcolor="#CCCCCC"
! Role !! Actor
|-
| [[Talion]] || [[Troy Baker]]
|-
| [[Celebrimbor|The Wraith]] || [[Alister Duncan]]
|-
| Hirgon of Tarnost || Travis Willingham
|-
| The [[Black Hand]] || [[Nolan North]]
|-
| The Hammer of Sauron || John DiMaggio
|-
| [[Sauron]] || [[Steve Blum]]
|-
| Torvin || Adam Croasdell
|-
| Ioreth || Laura Bailey
|-
| [[Gollum]] || Liam O'Brien
|-
| [[Galadriel]] || [[Jennifer Hale]]
|-
| Ratbag the Coward || Phil Lamarr
|-
| Queen Marwen || Claudia Black
|-
| Dirhael || Jack Quaid
|-
| [[Saruman]] || [[Roger Jackson]]
|-
| Ship Captain || [[Jason Connery ]]
|-
|Additional voices ||[[Yuri Lowenthal]]
|-
|Additional voices || JB Blanc
|-
|Additional voices || Chris Cox
|}

{{references}}

==See also==
* [[:Category:Images from Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor|Images from Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor]]

== External links ==
* '''[http://www.shadowofmordor.com/agegate/ Official website]'''

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Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor

2020-01-07T19:02:54Z

Shelob'sWeb: /* Plot synopsis */ took out spoiler for game

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{{video game infobox
| image = [[File:Shadow of Mordor - Cover art.jpg|250px]]
| name = Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor
| developer = [[Monolith Productions]]
| publisher = [[Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment]]
| platform = PC, Playstation 3, Playstation 4, Xbox 360, Xbox One
| releasedate = [[30 September]] [[2014]]
| genre = [[wikipedia:Action role-playing|Action role-playing]]
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'''''Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor''''' is an open world action-adventure video game developed by [[Monolith Productions]]. Released in 2014, the story takes place between ''[[The Hobbit]]'' and ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]'', acting as a bridge between the two eras. The protagonist's name is Talion, a [[Gondorian]] [[Ranger]] stationed at the [[Black Gate]]. Talion's family is slain the night the Dark Lord [[Sauron]] and his [[Uruk-Hai]] forces return to reclaim [[Mordor]], setting the Ranger on a quest for revenge after he is possessed and sustained from death by a mysterious [[Wraith]].

==Plot synopsis==
The family of Talion, a ranger who guards the black gates into Mordor, is brutally killed by the Black Hand of Sauron. Talion is also killed but is brought back to life merged with a wraith that gives him inhuman powers. He ventures into Mordor to exact revenge and to help the wraith find his past identity and what brings the two together.

==Gameplay==
''Shadow of Mordor'' is an open-world action/adventure game that is set entirely within Mordor.<ref>{{webcite|author=Chris Plante|articleurl=http://www.theverge.com/2014/10/1/6881161/middle-earth-shadow-of-mordor-torture-terrorism|articlename='Shadow of Mordor' is morally repulsive and I can't stop playing it|dated=31-May-2011|website=[http://www.theverge.com The Verge]|accessed=July 29, 2015}}</ref> The overworld is mainly populated by [[Uruk-hai|Uruks]], as well as never-before-seen creatures, such as the cat-like Caragors and troll-like Graugs.

One defining feature of the game is the Nemesis System, which allows the game to remember Uruks of a certain notability and track their progress as they rise from lowly soldiers to high-ranking captains and even war-chiefs. Most of these Uruks are randomly-generated and can vary in appearance, name, personality, and strengths/weaknesses. the Captains can randomly be found among the anonymous masses, though the war-chiefs can only be encountered by completing certain objectives to draw them out of hiding.

There are a number of tactics and strategies that can be exploited to kill Uruks: In addition to killing them in normal combat, one can also poison a nearby barrel of grog and let Uruk-hai drink from it, grapple them and throw them over the edge of a cliff or platform, set Caragors loose on them by breaking open their cages, launch sneak attacks from above or behind, or "brand" Uruks with the Wraith's powers to brainwash them and pit them against other Orcs.

==Differences between versions==
The Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 versions of the game are severely lacking in comparison to their counterparts for Microsoft Windows, PlayStation 4, and Xbox One: The PS3/360 versions features a simplified Nemesis system, poor framerate, longer loading times, and Graugs are very rarely encountered outside of missions. As such, the hunting challenges involving the Graugs and their variants are omitted from these versions of the game.

==Voice cast==
{| class="wikitable"
|- bgcolor="#CCCCCC"
! Role !! Actor
|-
| [[Talion]] || [[Troy Baker]]
|-
| [[Celebrimbor|The Wraith]] || [[Alister Duncan]]
|-
| Hirgon of Tarnost || Travis Willingham
|-
| The [[Black Hand]] || [[Nolan North]]
|-
| The Hammer of Sauron || John DiMaggio
|-
| [[Sauron]] || [[Steve Blum]]
|-
| Torvin || Adam Croasdell
|-
| Ioreth || Laura Bailey
|-
| [[Gollum]] || Liam O'Brien
|-
| [[Galadriel]] || [[Jennifer Hale]]
|-
| Ratbag the Coward || Phil Lamarr
|-
| Queen Marwen || Claudia Black
|-
| Dirhael || Jack Quaid
|-
| [[Saruman]] || [[Roger Jackson]]
|-
| Ship Captain || [[Jason Connery ]]
|-
|Additional voices ||[[Yuri Lowenthal]]
|-
|Additional voices || JB Blanc
|-
|Additional voices || Chris Cox
|}

{{references}}

==See also==
* [[:Category:Images from Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor|Images from Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor]]

== External links ==
* '''[http://www.shadowofmordor.com/agegate/ Official website]'''

{{Videogames}}

{{title|italic}}

[[Category:Action games]]
[[Category:Adventure games]]
[[Category:Microsoft Windows games]]
[[Category:Open world games]]
[[Category:PlayStation 3 games]]
[[Category:PlayStation 4 games]]
[[Category:Role playing games]]
[[Category:Xbox 360 games]]
[[Category:Xbox One games]]
[[Category:Warner Bros. Interactive games]]

User talk:Mith/2019

2019-10-08T18:22:24Z

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==Enormous New Tolkien Exhibit!==

Hey Mith, check this out! This is huge!
http://www.openculture.com/2019/01/the-largest-j-r-r-tolkien-exhibit-in-generations-is-coming-to-the-u-s.html

--{{User:Holdwine Meriadoc/sig}}

:Check the location on my profile. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 21:26, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

::Wow. I'm such a Took. Sorry. --{{User:Holdwine Meriadoc/sig}}

== Hobitit ==

Why didn't anyone edit this page before? You could have added these information before me. {{unsignedanon|80.107.134.88}}

:I could, but I didn't. There is no commissioning editor for Tolkien Gateway, so each user edits what they want to edit. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 16:13, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

== Middle-earτh Shadow of War ==

Hello.Can you upload at least one image related to the videogame [[Middle-earth: Shadow of War|Middle-earth Shadow of War]]?I don't have the ability to upload images on Tolkien Gateway but you do. {{unsignedanon|94.64.73.128}}

:I do, but I don't want to do it! --{{User:Mith/sig}} 19:31, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

::Only one image and nothing more. {{unsignedanon|94.64.73.128}}

:::Nope. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 20:48, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

== Reverts to [[Kings' Reckoning]] edits? ==

Is there a particular reason why ''all'' my edits over the past year to the [[Kings' Reckoning]] have been reverted? I tried to keep my revisions contained so if there was some problem with one of them, that 1 revision could easily be reverted, but why revert them all? Even adding a ''fact'' tag and a link to [[Elven]] had to be reverted? --[[User:Murlo|Murlo]] 07:08, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

:Apologies, I only saw the latest edit and I only intended to revert that rather than the, all. The reason for wanting to revert the last one is we generally use <nowiki>{{sources}}</nowiki> over repeated <nowiki>{{fact}}</nowiki>s. Sorry about that; I was rushing and must have missed that you had other edits there. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 19:50, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

::OK, I see now. Thanks for the clarification. Maybe I'll make note of the translations that still need sources in that article's talk page instead. --[[User:Murlo|Murlo]] 21:25, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

:::Please stop editing my talk page (it being mine). Don't feel the need to reply to this message. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 08:14, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

== Amazon Middle-earth series ==

Why doesn't someone create page about the Amazon Middle-earth series? {{unsignedanon|80.107.122.67}}

:I don't know, I can't speak for everyone. As I explainted above to 80.107.134.88, the things that get edited and created and are the things the editors want to do. No one directs the editors to what they "should" edit. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 18:34, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

== Image ==

Hello. I would like to upload images on Tolkien Gateway. Can you allow me? {{unsigned|Gegou}}

:No. You have to have a certain number of edits before you can; it happens automatically. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 18:39, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

==Template:Webcite==
Hi, can we please have the [[Template:Webcite]] with the <nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki> tags? I have to copy it from somewhere else, as it is incomplete. Or there is any reason why it must be just like that? Thanks. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 11:28, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

:"<nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki>" isn't part of the template so shouldn't be included in the usage information; there are (albeit rare) occasions where someone will use <nowiki>{{webcite}}</nowiki> without using <nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki> tags (such as when part of another template). I'm sure you can remember to type "<nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki>". --{{User:Mith/sig}} 14:13, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

==Changing username==
Hi, Ederchil told me to ask you: Would it be possible to change my username? I started editing a few things and now I'm non stopping and it feels weird having my name everywhere. No hurry, and if it's too complicated, I'll keep editing as always. Thanks! --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 17:14, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

:Unfortunately in our version of the MediaWiki software this isn't possible. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 14:14, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

::Oh... Thanks anyways.--[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 14:59, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

== Complaint ==

Fool. Why did you do that? After all I have done in Tolkien Gateway? You only know how to blog other users don't you? {{unsigned|Gegou}}

:I blocked you because I asked you to remove plagiarised material and you didn't do so, and secondly to upload files in line with our naming conventions, which you also failed to do. If you continue to persist in breaching policy you will continue to get blocked. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 10:17, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

== Question about Pictures ==

I haven't reached enough edits to put up pictures, but I intend to. Could you explain to me how fair use of them works and how I can upload them staying within guidelines?

User talk:Mith/2019

2019-10-07T18:22:14Z

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==Enormous New Tolkien Exhibit!==

Hey Mith, check this out! This is huge!
http://www.openculture.com/2019/01/the-largest-j-r-r-tolkien-exhibit-in-generations-is-coming-to-the-u-s.html

--{{User:Holdwine Meriadoc/sig}}

:Check the location on my profile. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 21:26, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

::Wow. I'm such a Took. Sorry. --{{User:Holdwine Meriadoc/sig}}

== Hobitit ==

Why didn't anyone edit this page before? You could have added these information before me. {{unsignedanon|80.107.134.88}}

:I could, but I didn't. There is no commissioning editor for Tolkien Gateway, so each user edits what they want to edit. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 16:13, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

== Middle-earτh Shadow of War ==

Hello.Can you upload at least one image related to the videogame [[Middle-earth: Shadow of War|Middle-earth Shadow of War]]?I don't have the ability to upload images on Tolkien Gateway but you do. {{unsignedanon|94.64.73.128}}

:I do, but I don't want to do it! --{{User:Mith/sig}} 19:31, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

::Only one image and nothing more. {{unsignedanon|94.64.73.128}}

:::Nope. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 20:48, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

== Reverts to [[Kings' Reckoning]] edits? ==

Is there a particular reason why ''all'' my edits over the past year to the [[Kings' Reckoning]] have been reverted? I tried to keep my revisions contained so if there was some problem with one of them, that 1 revision could easily be reverted, but why revert them all? Even adding a ''fact'' tag and a link to [[Elven]] had to be reverted? --[[User:Murlo|Murlo]] 07:08, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

:Apologies, I only saw the latest edit and I only intended to revert that rather than the, all. The reason for wanting to revert the last one is we generally use <nowiki>{{sources}}</nowiki> over repeated <nowiki>{{fact}}</nowiki>s. Sorry about that; I was rushing and must have missed that you had other edits there. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 19:50, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

::OK, I see now. Thanks for the clarification. Maybe I'll make note of the translations that still need sources in that article's talk page instead. --[[User:Murlo|Murlo]] 21:25, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

:::Please stop editing my talk page (it being mine). Don't feel the need to reply to this message. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 08:14, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

== Amazon Middle-earth series ==

Why doesn't someone create page about the Amazon Middle-earth series? {{unsignedanon|80.107.122.67}}

:I don't know, I can't speak for everyone. As I explainted above to 80.107.134.88, the things that get edited and created and are the things the editors want to do. No one directs the editors to what they "should" edit. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 18:34, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

== Image ==

Hello. I would like to upload images on Tolkien Gateway. Can you allow me? {{unsigned|Gegou}}

:No. You have to have a certain number of edits before you can; it happens automatically. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 18:39, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

==Template:Webcite==
Hi, can we please have the [[Template:Webcite]] with the <nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki> tags? I have to copy it from somewhere else, as it is incomplete. Or there is any reason why it must be just like that? Thanks. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 11:28, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

:"<nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki>" isn't part of the template so shouldn't be included in the usage information; there are (albeit rare) occasions where someone will use <nowiki>{{webcite}}</nowiki> without using <nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki> tags (such as when part of another template). I'm sure you can remember to type "<nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki>". --{{User:Mith/sig}} 14:13, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

==Changing username==
Hi, Ederchil told me to ask you: Would it be possible to change my username? I started editing a few things and now I'm non stopping and it feels weird having my name everywhere. No hurry, and if it's too complicated, I'll keep editing as always. Thanks! --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 17:14, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

:Unfortunately in our version of the MediaWiki software this isn't possible. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 14:14, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

::Oh... Thanks anyways.--[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 14:59, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

== Complaint ==

Fool. Why did you do that? After all I have done in Tolkien Gateway? You only know how to blog other users don't you? {{unsigned|Gegou}}

:I blocked you because I asked you to remove plagiarised material and you didn't do so, and secondly to upload files in line with our naming conventions, which you also failed to do. If you continue to persist in breaching policy you will continue to get blocked. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 10:17, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

== Complaint as well ==

Really, you had to delete my article? I understand that it is a race of spiders, but still, I felt it was important to show their portrayal in "Flies and Spiders". I spent over an hour on that! Look, I get it. You're an administrator. But next time, please, let me make a copy before you delete it so I can have it in my personal archives. I like to keep what I write, even if it is just to myself, and you just deleted hours of work.

Aha, I've just found this quote on the Tolkien Gateway official page! Tolkien Gateway is determined to inform you as much as possible about J.R.R. Tolkien and his masterpieces. Our goal is to have the most complete database about Middle-earth and Tolkien as possible. Do you not consider me as helping inform? If you want "the most complete database", then you're going to have to dive in to every little thing. Such as, Mirkwood Spiders.

== Question about Pictures ==

I haven't reached enough edits to put up pictures, but I intend to. Could you explain to me how fair use of them works and how I can upload them staying within guidelines?

User talk:Mith/2019

2019-10-07T18:14:22Z

Shelob'sWeb: /* Question about Pictures */ new section

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==Enormous New Tolkien Exhibit!==

Hey Mith, check this out! This is huge!
http://www.openculture.com/2019/01/the-largest-j-r-r-tolkien-exhibit-in-generations-is-coming-to-the-u-s.html

--{{User:Holdwine Meriadoc/sig}}

:Check the location on my profile. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 21:26, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

::Wow. I'm such a Took. Sorry. --{{User:Holdwine Meriadoc/sig}}

== Hobitit ==

Why didn't anyone edit this page before? You could have added these information before me. {{unsignedanon|80.107.134.88}}

:I could, but I didn't. There is no commissioning editor for Tolkien Gateway, so each user edits what they want to edit. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 16:13, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

== Middle-earτh Shadow of War ==

Hello.Can you upload at least one image related to the videogame [[Middle-earth: Shadow of War|Middle-earth Shadow of War]]?I don't have the ability to upload images on Tolkien Gateway but you do. {{unsignedanon|94.64.73.128}}

:I do, but I don't want to do it! --{{User:Mith/sig}} 19:31, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

::Only one image and nothing more. {{unsignedanon|94.64.73.128}}

:::Nope. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 20:48, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

== Reverts to [[Kings' Reckoning]] edits? ==

Is there a particular reason why ''all'' my edits over the past year to the [[Kings' Reckoning]] have been reverted? I tried to keep my revisions contained so if there was some problem with one of them, that 1 revision could easily be reverted, but why revert them all? Even adding a ''fact'' tag and a link to [[Elven]] had to be reverted? --[[User:Murlo|Murlo]] 07:08, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

:Apologies, I only saw the latest edit and I only intended to revert that rather than the, all. The reason for wanting to revert the last one is we generally use <nowiki>{{sources}}</nowiki> over repeated <nowiki>{{fact}}</nowiki>s. Sorry about that; I was rushing and must have missed that you had other edits there. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 19:50, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

::OK, I see now. Thanks for the clarification. Maybe I'll make note of the translations that still need sources in that article's talk page instead. --[[User:Murlo|Murlo]] 21:25, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

:::Please stop editing my talk page (it being mine). Don't feel the need to reply to this message. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 08:14, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

== Amazon Middle-earth series ==

Why doesn't someone create page about the Amazon Middle-earth series? {{unsignedanon|80.107.122.67}}

:I don't know, I can't speak for everyone. As I explainted above to 80.107.134.88, the things that get edited and created and are the things the editors want to do. No one directs the editors to what they "should" edit. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 18:34, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

== Image ==

Hello. I would like to upload images on Tolkien Gateway. Can you allow me? {{unsigned|Gegou}}

:No. You have to have a certain number of edits before you can; it happens automatically. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 18:39, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

==Template:Webcite==
Hi, can we please have the [[Template:Webcite]] with the <nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki> tags? I have to copy it from somewhere else, as it is incomplete. Or there is any reason why it must be just like that? Thanks. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 11:28, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

:"<nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki>" isn't part of the template so shouldn't be included in the usage information; there are (albeit rare) occasions where someone will use <nowiki>{{webcite}}</nowiki> without using <nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki> tags (such as when part of another template). I'm sure you can remember to type "<nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki>". --{{User:Mith/sig}} 14:13, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

==Changing username==
Hi, Ederchil told me to ask you: Would it be possible to change my username? I started editing a few things and now I'm non stopping and it feels weird having my name everywhere. No hurry, and if it's too complicated, I'll keep editing as always. Thanks! --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 17:14, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

:Unfortunately in our version of the MediaWiki software this isn't possible. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 14:14, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

::Oh... Thanks anyways.--[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 14:59, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

== Complaint ==

Fool. Why did you do that? After all I have done in Tolkien Gateway? You only know how to blog other users don't you? {{unsigned|Gegou}}

:I blocked you because I asked you to remove plagiarised material and you didn't do so, and secondly to upload files in line with our naming conventions, which you also failed to do. If you continue to persist in breaching policy you will continue to get blocked. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 10:17, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

== Complaint as well ==

Really, you had to delete my article? I understand that it is a race of spiders, but still, I felt it was important to show their portrayal in "Flies and Spiders". I spent over an hour on that! Look, I get it. You're an administrator. But next time, please, let me make a copy before you delete it so I can have it in my personal archives. I like to keep what I write, even if it is just to myself, and you just deleted hours of work.

== Question about Pictures ==

I haven't reached enough edits to put up pictures, but I intend to. Could you explain to me how fair use of them works and how I can upload them staying within guidelines?

User talk:Mith/2019

2019-10-07T18:11:13Z

Shelob'sWeb: changed title

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==Enormous New Tolkien Exhibit!==

Hey Mith, check this out! This is huge!
http://www.openculture.com/2019/01/the-largest-j-r-r-tolkien-exhibit-in-generations-is-coming-to-the-u-s.html

--{{User:Holdwine Meriadoc/sig}}

:Check the location on my profile. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 21:26, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

::Wow. I'm such a Took. Sorry. --{{User:Holdwine Meriadoc/sig}}

== Hobitit ==

Why didn't anyone edit this page before? You could have added these information before me. {{unsignedanon|80.107.134.88}}

:I could, but I didn't. There is no commissioning editor for Tolkien Gateway, so each user edits what they want to edit. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 16:13, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

== Middle-earτh Shadow of War ==

Hello.Can you upload at least one image related to the videogame [[Middle-earth: Shadow of War|Middle-earth Shadow of War]]?I don't have the ability to upload images on Tolkien Gateway but you do. {{unsignedanon|94.64.73.128}}

:I do, but I don't want to do it! --{{User:Mith/sig}} 19:31, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

::Only one image and nothing more. {{unsignedanon|94.64.73.128}}

:::Nope. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 20:48, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

== Reverts to [[Kings' Reckoning]] edits? ==

Is there a particular reason why ''all'' my edits over the past year to the [[Kings' Reckoning]] have been reverted? I tried to keep my revisions contained so if there was some problem with one of them, that 1 revision could easily be reverted, but why revert them all? Even adding a ''fact'' tag and a link to [[Elven]] had to be reverted? --[[User:Murlo|Murlo]] 07:08, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

:Apologies, I only saw the latest edit and I only intended to revert that rather than the, all. The reason for wanting to revert the last one is we generally use <nowiki>{{sources}}</nowiki> over repeated <nowiki>{{fact}}</nowiki>s. Sorry about that; I was rushing and must have missed that you had other edits there. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 19:50, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

::OK, I see now. Thanks for the clarification. Maybe I'll make note of the translations that still need sources in that article's talk page instead. --[[User:Murlo|Murlo]] 21:25, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

:::Please stop editing my talk page (it being mine). Don't feel the need to reply to this message. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 08:14, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

== Amazon Middle-earth series ==

Why doesn't someone create page about the Amazon Middle-earth series? {{unsignedanon|80.107.122.67}}

:I don't know, I can't speak for everyone. As I explainted above to 80.107.134.88, the things that get edited and created and are the things the editors want to do. No one directs the editors to what they "should" edit. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 18:34, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

== Image ==

Hello. I would like to upload images on Tolkien Gateway. Can you allow me? {{unsigned|Gegou}}

:No. You have to have a certain number of edits before you can; it happens automatically. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 18:39, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

==Template:Webcite==
Hi, can we please have the [[Template:Webcite]] with the <nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki> tags? I have to copy it from somewhere else, as it is incomplete. Or there is any reason why it must be just like that? Thanks. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 11:28, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

:"<nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki>" isn't part of the template so shouldn't be included in the usage information; there are (albeit rare) occasions where someone will use <nowiki>{{webcite}}</nowiki> without using <nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki> tags (such as when part of another template). I'm sure you can remember to type "<nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki>". --{{User:Mith/sig}} 14:13, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

==Changing username==
Hi, Ederchil told me to ask you: Would it be possible to change my username? I started editing a few things and now I'm non stopping and it feels weird having my name everywhere. No hurry, and if it's too complicated, I'll keep editing as always. Thanks! --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 17:14, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

:Unfortunately in our version of the MediaWiki software this isn't possible. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 14:14, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

::Oh... Thanks anyways.--[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 14:59, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

== Complaint ==

Fool. Why did you do that? After all I have done in Tolkien Gateway? You only know how to blog other users don't you? {{unsigned|Gegou}}

:I blocked you because I asked you to remove plagiarised material and you didn't do so, and secondly to upload files in line with our naming conventions, which you also failed to do. If you continue to persist in breaching policy you will continue to get blocked. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 10:17, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

== Complaint as well ==

Really, you had to delete my article? I understand that it is a race of spiders, but still, I felt it was important to show their portrayal in "Flies and Spiders". I spent over an hour on that! Look, I get it. You're an administrator. But next time, please, let me make a copy before you delete it so I can have it in my personal archives. I like to keep what I write, even if it is just to myself, and you just deleted hours of work.

User talk:Mith/2019

2019-10-07T18:10:40Z

Shelob'sWeb: /* Why */ new section

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==Enormous New Tolkien Exhibit!==

Hey Mith, check this out! This is huge!
http://www.openculture.com/2019/01/the-largest-j-r-r-tolkien-exhibit-in-generations-is-coming-to-the-u-s.html

--{{User:Holdwine Meriadoc/sig}}

:Check the location on my profile. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 21:26, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

::Wow. I'm such a Took. Sorry. --{{User:Holdwine Meriadoc/sig}}

== Hobitit ==

Why didn't anyone edit this page before? You could have added these information before me. {{unsignedanon|80.107.134.88}}

:I could, but I didn't. There is no commissioning editor for Tolkien Gateway, so each user edits what they want to edit. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 16:13, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

== Middle-earτh Shadow of War ==

Hello.Can you upload at least one image related to the videogame [[Middle-earth: Shadow of War|Middle-earth Shadow of War]]?I don't have the ability to upload images on Tolkien Gateway but you do. {{unsignedanon|94.64.73.128}}

:I do, but I don't want to do it! --{{User:Mith/sig}} 19:31, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

::Only one image and nothing more. {{unsignedanon|94.64.73.128}}

:::Nope. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 20:48, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

== Reverts to [[Kings' Reckoning]] edits? ==

Is there a particular reason why ''all'' my edits over the past year to the [[Kings' Reckoning]] have been reverted? I tried to keep my revisions contained so if there was some problem with one of them, that 1 revision could easily be reverted, but why revert them all? Even adding a ''fact'' tag and a link to [[Elven]] had to be reverted? --[[User:Murlo|Murlo]] 07:08, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

:Apologies, I only saw the latest edit and I only intended to revert that rather than the, all. The reason for wanting to revert the last one is we generally use <nowiki>{{sources}}</nowiki> over repeated <nowiki>{{fact}}</nowiki>s. Sorry about that; I was rushing and must have missed that you had other edits there. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 19:50, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

::OK, I see now. Thanks for the clarification. Maybe I'll make note of the translations that still need sources in that article's talk page instead. --[[User:Murlo|Murlo]] 21:25, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

:::Please stop editing my talk page (it being mine). Don't feel the need to reply to this message. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 08:14, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

== Amazon Middle-earth series ==

Why doesn't someone create page about the Amazon Middle-earth series? {{unsignedanon|80.107.122.67}}

:I don't know, I can't speak for everyone. As I explainted above to 80.107.134.88, the things that get edited and created and are the things the editors want to do. No one directs the editors to what they "should" edit. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 18:34, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

== Image ==

Hello. I would like to upload images on Tolkien Gateway. Can you allow me? {{unsigned|Gegou}}

:No. You have to have a certain number of edits before you can; it happens automatically. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 18:39, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

==Template:Webcite==
Hi, can we please have the [[Template:Webcite]] with the <nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki> tags? I have to copy it from somewhere else, as it is incomplete. Or there is any reason why it must be just like that? Thanks. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 11:28, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

:"<nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki>" isn't part of the template so shouldn't be included in the usage information; there are (albeit rare) occasions where someone will use <nowiki>{{webcite}}</nowiki> without using <nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki> tags (such as when part of another template). I'm sure you can remember to type "<nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki>". --{{User:Mith/sig}} 14:13, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

==Changing username==
Hi, Ederchil told me to ask you: Would it be possible to change my username? I started editing a few things and now I'm non stopping and it feels weird having my name everywhere. No hurry, and if it's too complicated, I'll keep editing as always. Thanks! --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 17:14, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

:Unfortunately in our version of the MediaWiki software this isn't possible. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 14:14, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

::Oh... Thanks anyways.--[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 14:59, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

== Complaint ==

Fool. Why did you do that? After all I have done in Tolkien Gateway? You only know how to blog other users don't you? {{unsigned|Gegou}}

:I blocked you because I asked you to remove plagiarised material and you didn't do so, and secondly to upload files in line with our naming conventions, which you also failed to do. If you continue to persist in breaching policy you will continue to get blocked. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 10:17, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

== Why ==

Really, you had to delete my article? I understand that it is a race of spiders, but still, I felt it was important to show their portrayal in "Flies and Spiders". I spent over an hour on that! Look, I get it. You're an administrator. But next time, please, let me make a copy before you delete it so I can have it in my personal archives. I like to keep what I write, even if it is just to myself, and you just deleted hours of work.

The Lord of the Rings: The Motion Picture Trilogy (Blu-ray)

2019-10-03T15:52:49Z

Shelob'sWeb: , including over an hour of deleted scenes and a documentary about the making of the film. It is the latest edition of the film trilogy, the best way to experience the films, and a must watch for any Tolkien fan.

{{incomplete}}
[[Image:The Lord of the Rings (Theatrical Editions) (Blu-ray).png|thumb|250px]]
'''The Lord of the Rings: The Motion Picture Trilogy''' is a Blu-ray pack of [[The Lord of the Rings (film series)|''The Lord of the Rings'' film series]] released on April 6, 2010 by [[New Line Cinema]]. It consists of the theatrical editions in high-definition and six DVDs of bonus features, including over an hour of deleted scenes and a documentary about the making of the film. It is the latest edition of the film trilogy, the best way to experience the films, and a must watch for any Tolkien fan.

==See also==
* ''[[The Lord of the Rings (film series)]]''

[[Category:The Lord of the Rings (film series) DVDs]]

Spiders

2019-10-03T15:39:57Z

Shelob'sWeb: added a link to mirkwood spiders

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The '''Spiders''' were eight-legged creatures that captured their prey in intricate webs. Many spiders of [[Middle-earth]] reached a colossal size.

==History==

There was a sinister side to the spiders of Middle-earth that entered it with the monstrous [[Ungoliant]] in the years before the [[First Age]]. A gigantic creature of spider-shape, it was she who destroyed the [[Two Trees of Valinor|Two Trees]] of [[Valinor]] by sucking the light out of them, and escaped with [[Morgoth|Melkor]] into the lands of Middle-earth. Though Ungoliant disappeared into the far south, she left the northern lands infested with her offspring. During the First Age, the mountains of the [[Ered Gorgoroth]] were infested with these monsters, and became a place of dread.

The most infamous of Ungoliant's children lived far to the south and east of the Ered Gorgoroth, on the borders of the land of [[Mordor]]. This was [[Shelob]], who haunted a network of tunnels watching the pass of [[Cirith Ungol]], making a living on the hapless [[Orcs]] of [[Sauron]] and anyone else who happened to come down the passage. She had offspring of her own, smaller than she but with a cruel intelligence, that spread throughout the [[Ephel Dúath]] and north into [[Mirkwood]]. It was creatures like these that [[Bilbo Baggins]] encountered in ''[[The Hobbit]]'', and after fighting them he gave his sword its name [[Sting]].

Tolkien says of Shelob, "Most '''like''' a spider she was," [emphasis added], and the offspring of Ungoliant differed from normal spiders in respects beyond their enormous size. Bilbo sees the Mirkwood spiders' eyes as "Insect eyes,"<ref>{{H|8}}</ref> and Shelob's eyes are "clustered" and "many-windowed", with "a thousand facets", like insects' compound eyes.<ref>{{TT|IV9}}</ref> However, normal spiders do not have compound eyes. Tolkien may not have been over-concerned with the difference between spiders and insects, as in the same chapter of ''The Hobbit'' he refers to spiders as "hunting and spinning insects". Another difference is that when spiders grow, they moult their skins, but Shelob's hide was "ever thickened from within with layer on layer of evil growth."<ref name=Rateliff>John Rateliff. 2007. ''The History of the Hobbit: Mr. Baggins'', volume 1. Harper-Collins, p. 322</ref>

Shelob is consistently described as "stinging" and having a "sting".<ref>{{TT|IV9}}</ref><ref>{{TT|IV10}}</ref><ref>{{RK|VI9}}</ref> That has been taken to mean a sting like that of some insects, which normal spiders do not have.<ref name=Rateliff/> However, in the quotation from "Letter 163" in the "Inspiration" section below, Tolkien used the verb "sting" in the rare sense of a spider's bite. Thus all his references to Shelob's stinging may mean biting.

==Names==

In [[Sindarin]], the word for "spider" is '''''ungol'''''.<ref name=UI>{{HM|UI}}, p. 490</ref> It is found in such names as [[Shelob's Lair|Torech Ungol]], [[Ungoliant#Etymology|Ungoliant]], and [[Cirith Ungol]].

In [[Gnomish]], one of [[J.R.R. Tolkien|Tolkien]]'s early conceptions of an [[Elvish|Elven]] language, the word for "spider" is ''cing'' or ''cingwin'' (a struck-out word was ''gung''). A deleted [[Qenya]] word for "spider" was ''ung-we''.<ref>{{PE|11}}, pp. 26, 43</ref>

==Inspiration==
Tolkien made inconsistent comments on his feelings about spiders. In a letter to [[W. H. Auden]] (quoted more completely below), he wrote, "I do not dislike spiders particularly, and have no urge to kill them. I usually rescue those whom I find in the bath!"

However, in an interview with [[Jan Broberg]] in 1961, Tolkien said, as translated by John-Henri Holmberg, "I don't like spiders. It's not a pathological fear, but I rather won't have anything to do with them.<ref>Quoted by {{webcite|author=[[Christina Scull]] and [[Wayne G. Hammond]]|articlename=Addenda and Corrigenda to ''The J. R. R. Tolkien Companion and Guide'' (2006), Vol. 2: Reader's Guide: Arranged by Date|dated=Dec. 23, 2010|articleurl=https://www.hammondandscull.com/addenda/guide_by_date.html|website=hammondandscull.com}}</ref>

Likewise the writer Richard Lupoff asked Tolkien whether the giant spiders in Edgar Rice Burroughs' Barsoom books had inspired Shelob, and Tolkien replied in a [[Letter to Richard Lupoff|letter]],

{{quote|Source hunting is a great entertainment but I myself do not find it particularly useful. I did read many of Edgar Rice Burroughs' earlier works, but I developed a dislike for his Tarzan even greater than '''my distaste for spiders'''. Spiders I had met long before Burroughs began to write, and I do not think he is in any way responsible for Shelob. At any rate I retain no memory of the Siths or the Apt.|[[Edgar Rice Burroughs: Master of Adventure]]}}

Tolkien was bitten by a tarantula when he was a small boy in South Africa. Many writers have suggested that the incident underlies the horrifying and deadly giant spiders in ''[[The Silmarillion]]'', ''[[The Hobbit]]'', and ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]''.<ref name=Horne>Mark Horne. 2011. ''J. R. R. Tolkien''. Thomas Nelson Publishers, p. 2</ref><ref>{{webcite|author=Emily Asher-Perrin
|articleurl=https://www.tor.com/2016/11/04/we-can-probably-blame-the-tarantula-that-bit-j-r-r-tolkien-for-most-giant-spiders-in-fantasy|articlename=We Can Probably Blame the Tarantula that Bit J. R. R. Tolkien for Most of the Spiders in Fantasy|dated=Nov. 4, 2016|website=Tor.com|accessed=March 22, 2016}}</ref>
Tolkien saw no reason to accept that explanation, and he specifically said that his purpose in putting spiders into ''The Hobbit'' was to scare his son Michael, who had a fear of them. But some commentators have avoided committing themselves to saying the analysis must be false,<ref name=Horne/><ref>Deborah Webster Rogers; Ivor I. Rogers. 1980. ''J. R. R. Tolkien''. "Tolkien had been bitten by a tarantula in South Africa, and Michael had a horror of spiders, as do many people; so the author could be drawing on either personal or public feeling in his portrayal of arachnids."</ref> as seen also in the quotation from Humphrey Carpenter's biography below, and Tolkien did not commit himself either.

{{quote|...when Ronald [Tolkien] was beginning to walk, he stumbled on a tarantula. It bit him, and he ran in terror across the garden until the nurse snatched him up and sucked out the poison. When he grew up he could remember a hot day and running in fear through long, dead grass, '''but the memory of the tarantula itself faded, and he said that the incident left him with no especial dislike of spiders.''' Nevertheless, he wrote more than once of monstrous spiders with venomous bites.|''[[J.R.R. Tolkien: A Biography]]''}}

{{quote|I knew that the way [for Frodo, Sam, and Gollum] was guarded by a Spider. And if that has anything to do with my being stung by a tarantula when a small child, people are welcome to the notion (supposing the improbable, that any one is interested). I can only say that I remember nothing about it, should not know it if I had not been told; and '''I do not dislike spiders particularly, and have no urge to kill them.''' I usually rescue those whom I find in the bath!|{{L|163}}}}

Regarding the spiders in ''[[The Hobbit]]'':
{{quote|I put in the spiders largely because this was, you remember, primarily written for my children (at least I had them in mind), and one of my sons [Michael] in particular dislikes spiders with a great intensity. I did it to thoroughly frighten him and it did!|From an interview of [[J.R.R. Tolkien]] on January 15, 1957 by Ruth Harshaw for the "Carnival of Books" radio show. (According to ''[[The Annotated Hobbit]]'')}}

{{quote|Throughout his life, Tolkien’s son Michael had what he called “a deep-rooted abhorrence of spiders.”|''[[The Annotated Hobbit]]''}}

==Portrayal in adaptations==

'''1982: [[The Hobbit (1982 video game)|''The Hobbit (1982 text adventure game)'']]'''

:In the text adventure game, spiders don't make any explicit appearance, although you will see "Pale Bulbous Eyes" as you and your party travel along the [[Old Forest Road]]. If you stay on the road for too long, something will leap down from the trees and kill you.

'''2003: ''[[The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King]]'':'''
:''See [[Shelob#Portrayal in adaptations|Shelob: Portrayal in adaptations]]''

'''2007: ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online]]'':'''
:Non-player (NPC, computer controlled) spiders are found in a number of areas of Middle-earth. Players can play a spider in the Player-versus-Player (PvP) area of the [[Ettenmoors]] once the player reaches level ten. Spiders in ''The Lord of the Rings Online'' have the ability to root and spit poison from a distance.

:The appearance of spiders vary from zone to zone for NPC spiders and from rank to rank for player controlled spiders. They all look like very large spiders from the size of a cat up to the size of a large elephant.

'''2012-4: [[The Hobbit (film series)|''The Hobbit'' film series]]:'''
:The spiders of Mirkwood are portrayed in the first two films, ''An Unexpected Journey'' and ''The Desolation of Smaug''. In the former, they attack [[Radagast]]'s dwelling in [[Rhosgobel]], but are driven away by him. Radagast discovers that they came from the ruins of [[Dol Guldur]], and deduces that they are descendants of [[Ungoliant]]. In the latter film, their role is faithful to their portrayal in the novel. As in the book, they are capable of speech (although Bilbo is only capable of understanding them while wearing the [[One Ring|Ring]]). When one of the spiders screams about how Bilbo's Elvish blade "stings" it, it is then that Bilbo decides to give his weapon a name.

'''2017: ''[[Middle-earth: Shadow of War]]'':'''
:[[Shelob]] is an integral part of the plot of the action game. She is seen in her typical spider form in the game, as well as a human form, which is a first for the character. She temporarily takes possession of [[Celebrimbor]]'s ring during the game's tutorial section in the city of [[Minas Ithil]]. This game does not take place Legendarium canon, and [[Shelob]] has never been confirmed in any publication to be able to take human form like [[Ungoliant]] can. Lesser spiders can be used in the game as distraction to orcs.

==See also==
*[[:Category:Images of spiders|Images of spiders]]
{{references}}
[[Category:Spiders]]
[[Category:Other races]]
[[Category:Evil]]
[[de:Spinnen]]

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2019-10-03T15:37:46Z

Shelob'sWeb: Created page with "{{Counciltop}}  Shelob's Web here! I posted my first article on Mirkwood Spiders the other day. I would like to know how to insert an image..."

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Shelob's Web here! I posted my first article on Mirkwood Spiders the other day. I would like to know how to insert an image. When I pressed Upload Image in the help menu, it said that I had to be a moderator. Can anybody help me?

Talion

2019-10-02T02:44:38Z

Shelob'sWeb: Talion avenged the death of his family with the help of Celebrimbor. Since Talion was did not pop out of the mind of Tolkien himself, his games are considered "non-canonical".

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'''Talion''' is a character created for the video-game ''[[Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor]]'' who served as the captain of the Rangers of Gondor. He was married to Ioreth and had a son with her, named Dirhael, and both were killed by servants of [[Sauron]]. Talion avenged the death of his family with the help of [[Celebrimbor]]. Since Talion was did not pop out of the mind of Tolkien himself, his games are considered "non-canonical".

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User:Shelob'sWeb

2019-10-02T02:39:03Z

Shelob'sWeb: a synopsis of myself.

Shelob's Web is a new user on Tolkien Gateway. He has a 10 part series on YouTube explaining LOTR lore as well as a series on how he makes his Tolkien Gateway articles.

Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor

2019-09-16T02:20:35Z

Shelob'sWeb: /* Plot synopsis */

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| name = Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor
| developer = [[Monolith Productions]]
| publisher = [[Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment]]
| platform = PC, Playstation 3, Playstation 4, Xbox 360, Xbox One
| releasedate = [[30 September]] [[2014]]
| genre = [[wikipedia:Action role-playing|Action role-playing]]
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'''''Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor''''' is an open world action-adventure video game developed by [[Monolith Productions]]. Released in 2014, the story takes place between ''[[The Hobbit]]'' and ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]'', acting as a bridge between the two eras. The protagonist's name is Talion, a [[Gondorian]] [[Ranger]] stationed at the [[Black Gate]]. Talion's family is slain the night the Dark Lord [[Sauron]] and his [[Uruk-Hai]] forces return to reclaim [[Mordor]], setting the Ranger on a quest for revenge after he is possessed and sustained from death by a mysterious [[Wraith]].

==Plot synopsis==
The family of Talion, a ranger who guards the black gates into Mordor, is brutally killed by the Black Hand of Sauron. Talion is also killed but is brought back to life merged with a wraith (Celebrimbor, passed Elven King) that gives him inhuman powers. He ventures into Mordor to exact revenge and to help the wraith find his past identity and what brings the two together.

==Gameplay==
''Shadow of Mordor'' is an open-world action/adventure game that is set entirely within Mordor.<ref>{{webcite|author=Chris Plante|articleurl=http://www.theverge.com/2014/10/1/6881161/middle-earth-shadow-of-mordor-torture-terrorism|articlename='Shadow of Mordor' is morally repulsive and I can't stop playing it|dated=31-May-2011|website=[http://www.theverge.com The Verge]|accessed=July 29, 2015}}</ref> The overworld is mainly populated by [[Uruk-hai|Uruks]], as well as never-before-seen creatures, such as the cat-like Caragors and troll-like Graugs.

One defining feature of the game is the Nemesis System, which allows the game to remember Uruks of a certain notability and track their progress as they rise from lowly soldiers to high-ranking captains and even war-chiefs. Most of these Uruks are randomly-generated and can vary in appearance, name, personality, and strengths/weaknesses. the Captains can randomly be found among the anonymous masses, though the war-chiefs can only be encountered by completing certain objectives to draw them out of hiding.

There are a number of tactics and strategies that can be exploited to kill Uruks: In addition to killing them in normal combat, one can also poison a nearby barrel of grog and let Uruk-hai drink from it, grapple them and throw them over the edge of a cliff or platform, set Caragors loose on them by breaking open their cages, launch sneak attacks from above or behind, or "brand" Uruks with the Wraith's powers to brainwash them and pit them against other Orcs.

==Differences between versions==
The Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 versions of the game are severely lacking in comparison to their counterparts for Microsoft Windows, PlayStation 4, and Xbox One: The PS3/360 versions features a simplified Nemesis system, poor framerate, longer loading times, and Graugs are very rarely encountered outside of missions. As such, the hunting challenges involving the Graugs and their variants are omitted from these versions of the game.

==Voice cast==
{| class="wikitable"
|- bgcolor="#CCCCCC"
! Role !! Actor
|-
| [[Talion]] || [[Troy Baker]]
|-
| [[Celebrimbor|The Wraith]] || [[Alister Duncan]]
|-
| Hirgon of Tarnost || [[Travis Willingham]]
|-
| The [[Black Hand]] || [[Nolan North]]
|-
| The Hammer of Sauron || [[John DiMaggio]]
|-
| [[Sauron]] || [[Steve Blum]]
|-
| Torvin || [[Adam Croasdell]]
|-
| Ioreth || [[Laura Bailey]]
|-
| [[Gollum]] || [[Liam O'Brien]]
|-
| [[Galadriel]] || [[Jennifer Hale]]
|-
| Ratbag the Coward || [[Phil Lamarr]]
|-
| Queen Marwen || [[Claudia Black]]
|-
| Dirhael || [[Jack Quaid]]
|-
| [[Saruman]] || [[Roger Jackson]]
|-
| Ship Captain || [[Jason Connery ]]
|-
|Additional voices ||[[Yuri Lowenthal]]
|-
|Additional voices || [[JB Blanc]]
|-
|Additional voices || [[Chris Cox]]
|}

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==See also==
* [[:Category:Images from Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor|Images from Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor]]

== External links ==
* '''[http://www.shadowofmordor.com/agegate/ Official website]'''

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