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2012-02-17T14:59:31Z

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== LOTRO characters ==

Two things, really:-
# I delinked things like "Narmaleth", "Edhelion" and "Duilond" because there was clearly no intention to create these pages; "Narmaleth" in particular has been sitting as a redlink for three years, which I think is completely unacceptable.
# I don't think listing that someone has grey hair when the image immediately above clearly shows that anyone is tenable. I think there's already an issue vis-a-vis the length of infobox in relation to the length of article for most of these characters, and I don't want to see that made worse (which is why I have limited the width of it). --{{User:Mith/sig}} 19:37, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

:Okay, I'll try to create as few long-time red links as possible. I'll create an article about Edhelion somewhere this year. --[[User:Amroth|Amroth]] 16:55, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

== Moving files ==

When moving a file, please untick the box "Leave a redirect behind" as this doesn't leave a redirect behind for me to delete! --{{User:Mith/sig}} 17:25, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

== Uploading Images ==

Is it possible you could pop into chat sometime this evening? I was hoping to chat to you about some of the stuff you've uploaded. Thanks! --{{User:Mith/sig}} 20:03, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
:Certainly. --[[User:Amroth|Amroth]] 20:06, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

== Translations ==

I've tried to give some possible answers to your questions on Elvish translations [http://www.lotrplaza.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=210917&PN=8&title=language-help-desk-45 here]. Perhaps more knowledgeable people will now feel more tempted to offer their help! ;-) --[[User:Morgan|Morgan]] 16:04, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

:Translating placenames and personal names has been a hobby of mine for a while, and maybe still is. I kinda disagree with your suggestion; UNDU suggests "going down" or "lower than X", not "low-lying". I would pick something with N. cofn, "deep, low-lying". I would also, for purely esthetic purposes, change the word order (a la ''Pays Bas'' instead of Netherlands). I'm not entirely sure on how to properly pluralize cofn, but I think *''i Ndŷr Gufn'' or *''Dôr Gofn'' are both closest to being correct. As for Leo... Do you want a translation for "Belgian Lion", "Netherlandish Lion" or "Dutch (theodisc) Lion"? --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 17:36, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

::Good thinking, Ederchil! Would you mind if I post your suggestions on the Plaza (in order to enrich the discussion), or do you have your own account? --[[User:Morgan|Morgan]] 19:16, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

:::Don't have an account, go ahead. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 19:54, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

::::Thanks for your ideas, Morgan and Ederchil.
::::Ederchil: I would prefer a translation of "Lion of the Netherlands" (in the sense of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seventeen_Provinces this]). --[[User:Amroth|Amroth]] 13:54, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

== Thank you for your help ==

Hello Amroth, I am speaching on the behalf of Sociedade de Tolkien Brasileira(or Brazilian Tolkien Society), could you help us to place an external link to our youtube channel? (http:///www.youtube.com/stbtolkien) also I would like to ask you one thing, since WIKIs are only for information porpouse and not personal, political and any other kind of information and does not take "sides" could you consider take a look at this publication it has unreliable and untruth information about us, that is why we have subscribed to your Wiki and edited our own information and links. The page is http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Conselho_Branco,_Sociedade_Tolkien

Just like you have done to our page, so it will have only clean design, and information about the society and not links to personal opinions, foruns, or even lies.

Oh and how can we upload our official trademark?

Regards,
Leandro Schwass {{Unsigned|Stbtolkien}}

:Firstly, welcome to [[Tolkien Gateway]] Leandro.
:After looking at [[The Brazilian Tolkien Society|the article]] I see that a link to the youtube channel has already been added.
:You can upload images by [http://www.tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Special:Upload this page] (you can also find a link under ''Toolbox'' at the leftside).
:Personally, I don't have much knowledge about Tolkien Societies. Could you please specify what information is incorrect. The information on [[Conselho Branco, Sociedade Tolkien]] seems to be good, but it needs to be sourced. I will add a <nowiki>{{fact}}</nowiki>-template and ask [[User:Morgan]] (the creator of the page) if he can take a look in the page and provide sources. Personally, I think [http://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=The_Brazilian_Tolkien_Society&action=historysubmit&diff=186060&oldid=116160 the information that you added to The Brazilian Tolkien Society] could stay at the article if sources are provided. But you have to discuss that with [[User:Ederchil]] (who removed the information).
:I hope, this helps you.
:Sincerely, [[User:Amroth|Amroth]] 16:34, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

::Thank you so much for the information and your kind reply and help. Concerning the specific information is incorrect...on the Conselho branco Wiki Page, they said we were founded in 2000 but it is not true, also that they had the same name of our society, wich is impossible since we are up since 1997 and our name is a registered trademark since 1999 here in Brasil. I think that the information removed from our webpage was not necessary since it only said s few words about how we get here and etc. once Conselho Branco said unreliable things and still has that text on their page, I think since we were only talking things abobut our selves, it could be let there the way it was on our first edition, what you think? also Ederchil did not said why he did that. Who else can know better about ourselves then our selves is not it? lol Once again thank you for your kindness :) {{Unsigned|Stbtolkien}}
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::Everything is ok now. once more thank you for correcting and helping us with our page, and correcting and making more fair the information on the other Wiki Page of our friend society Conselho Branco. This place is a fair place! Congratulation! and Ty :) - Yours, Leandro {{Unsigned|Stbtolkien}}

:::I'm glad to hear that it is correct now :)
:::Though, according to the [[Conselho Branco, Sociedade Tolkien|Conselho article]] it had to change its name because your society was founded earlier, so I don't see how it contradicts. --[[User:Amroth|Amroth]] 17:17, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

===Logo===

I cant upload an image, and cant find the tool on the left column to do that. I receive a message telling me that only Administrators can do that (or something like that) when I try to click on the link you just gave me. I am So sorry to be a noob ! lol {{Unsigned|Stbtolkien}}

:Hmm, that's strange. You should have permissions to upload files, I'm not an Adminstrator either but I can upload files. If you can give me the link of the image, I'll upload it.
:PS: You can sign your posts by putting '''<nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki>''' at the end of your message. --[[User:Amroth|Amroth]] 19:12, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

::Awesome, here is the link: http://jrrtolkien.com.br/wikilogo/Logo_STB_Wiki.png the description should be like "Logomarca Sociedade de Tolkien Brasileira"

::We already granted the tolkiengateway.net to access the image directly, excluding your domain from our HotLink protection.

::Namarie --[[User:Stbtolkien|Sociedade de Tolkien Brasileira]] 01:50, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

:::Before uploading the image, I've one last question. On TG there is a policy that every file page has to include a [[Tolkien Gateway:File licensing templates|license template]], but I'm not sure under which licensing the trademark would fall. Could you take a look at [[Tolkien Gateway:File licensing templates]], and tell me which licensing template I've to add. I guess it would be [[Tolkien Gateway:File licensing templates#Permission granted|Permission granted]], do you agree with that? Thanks! --[[User:Amroth|Amroth]] 14:12, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
:::ow
::: Yes I think so, cuz since the trademark is ours we definitely agree to show our own logo on Tolkien Gateway, it is ok!
:::--[[User:Stbtolkien|Sociedade de Tolkien Brasileira]] 14:19, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

:::Amroth...magic happened! lol Now we can see the UPLOAD link on the left column, I just uploaded the image see if you can do the right thing to edit that and make it fit the template or style of Tolkien Gateway please! {{Unsigned|Stbtolkien}}

::::I already expected that answer, but I had to ask for the record.
::::It's great to hear that you're able to upload images now :) I've edited the file page and created [[Tolkien Gateway:Copyrights/The Brazilian Tolkien Society|a file license template]]. --[[User:Amroth|Amroth]] 14:39, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
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lol Ok I got it! I just created the copyright page, but if you dont need that it is ok, you may delete it from Tolkien gateway, but please take a look and see if that fits what you need. Will it be visible on the STB Wiki Page? I mean the way it was designed on the copyright templates? --[[User:Stbtolkien|Sociedade de Tolkien Brasileira]] 14:59, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Tolkien Gateway:Copyrights/Sociedade de Tolkien Brasileira

2012-02-17T14:55:59Z

Stbtolkien: Created page with "FROM Daniel Cossi Jundiaí, SP, Brasil 17th, February, 2012 To Tolkien Gateway To Whom It may Concern: My name is Daniel Cossi, and I am hereby providing written consent for a..."

FROM Daniel Cossi
Jundiaí, SP, Brasil
17th, February, 2012

To Tolkien Gateway

To Whom It may Concern:

My name is Daniel Cossi, and I am hereby providing written consent for authorizing Tolkien Gateway to release and show the Logo and information about Sociedade de Tolkien Brasileira.

I am issuing this letter for granting access to any of the information approved and presented on this website, like our History, Works, Social Midia Links and other information relating to the Sociedade de Tolkien Brasileira which I am aware of its content since 16th February, 2012. The purpose for this access should be limited to the sole purpose of information and spreading the works of STB about J.R.R. Tolkien.

However, I notify that this disclosure of STB information should not be for any other purpose other than this.

Daniel Cossi
Sociedade de Tolkien Brasileira
Presiden-Founder
17th, February, 2012

The Brazilian Tolkien Society

2012-02-17T14:42:09Z

Stbtolkien:

'''Sociedade de Tolkien Brasileira''' (Brazilian: '''Brazilian Tolkien Society'''), abbreviated STB or BTS, is a Tolkien Society in Brazil. It was founded on [[16 November]] [[1997]].

[[Image:Logo_STB_Wiki.png|<small>Sociedade de Tolkien Brasileira's Brand</small>|frame]]
== External links ==
* '''[http://www.jrrtolkien.com.br Official website]'''
* [http://www.facebook.com/groups/sociedadetolkienbrasileira Sociedade de Tolkien Brasileira] at FaceBook
* [http://twitter.com/#!/stbtolkien Sociedade de Tolkien Brasileira] at Twitter
* [http://www.youtube.com/stbtolkien Sociedade de Tolkien Brasileira] at YouTube

[[CATEGORY:Brazilian organizations|Sociedade de Tolkien Brasileira]]
[[CATEGORY:Tolkien Societies|Sociedade de Tolkien Brasileira]]

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The Brazilian Tolkien Society

2012-02-17T14:41:58Z

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The Brazilian Tolkien Society

2012-02-17T14:41:28Z

Stbtolkien:

'''Sociedade de Tolkien Brasileira''' (Brazilian: '''Brazilian Tolkien Society'''), abbreviated STB or BTS, is a Tolkien Society in Brazil. It was founded on [[16 November]] [[1997]].

[[Image:Logo_STB_Wiki.png|<small>Sociedade de Tolkien Brasileira's Brand</small>|frame]]
== External links ==
* '''[http://www.jrrtolkien.com.br Official website]'''
* [http://www.facebook.com/groups/sociedadetolkienbrasileira Sociedade de Tolkien Brasileira] at FaceBook
* [http://twitter.com/#!/stbtolkien Sociedade de Tolkien Brasileira] at Twitter
* [http://www.youtube.com/stbtolkien Sociedade de Tolkien Brasileira] at YouTube

[[CATEGORY:Brazilian organizations|Sociedade de Tolkien Brasileira]]
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2012-02-17T14:27:45Z

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2012-02-17T14:25:24Z

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== LOTRO characters ==

Two things, really:-
# I delinked things like "Narmaleth", "Edhelion" and "Duilond" because there was clearly no intention to create these pages; "Narmaleth" in particular has been sitting as a redlink for three years, which I think is completely unacceptable.
# I don't think listing that someone has grey hair when the image immediately above clearly shows that anyone is tenable. I think there's already an issue vis-a-vis the length of infobox in relation to the length of article for most of these characters, and I don't want to see that made worse (which is why I have limited the width of it). --{{User:Mith/sig}} 19:37, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

:Okay, I'll try to create as few long-time red links as possible. I'll create an article about Edhelion somewhere this year. --[[User:Amroth|Amroth]] 16:55, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

== Moving files ==

When moving a file, please untick the box "Leave a redirect behind" as this doesn't leave a redirect behind for me to delete! --{{User:Mith/sig}} 17:25, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

== Uploading Images ==

Is it possible you could pop into chat sometime this evening? I was hoping to chat to you about some of the stuff you've uploaded. Thanks! --{{User:Mith/sig}} 20:03, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
:Certainly. --[[User:Amroth|Amroth]] 20:06, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

== Translations ==

I've tried to give some possible answers to your questions on Elvish translations [http://www.lotrplaza.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=210917&PN=8&title=language-help-desk-45 here]. Perhaps more knowledgeable people will now feel more tempted to offer their help! ;-) --[[User:Morgan|Morgan]] 16:04, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

:Translating placenames and personal names has been a hobby of mine for a while, and maybe still is. I kinda disagree with your suggestion; UNDU suggests "going down" or "lower than X", not "low-lying". I would pick something with N. cofn, "deep, low-lying". I would also, for purely esthetic purposes, change the word order (a la ''Pays Bas'' instead of Netherlands). I'm not entirely sure on how to properly pluralize cofn, but I think *''i Ndŷr Gufn'' or *''Dôr Gofn'' are both closest to being correct. As for Leo... Do you want a translation for "Belgian Lion", "Netherlandish Lion" or "Dutch (theodisc) Lion"? --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 17:36, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

::Good thinking, Ederchil! Would you mind if I post your suggestions on the Plaza (in order to enrich the discussion), or do you have your own account? --[[User:Morgan|Morgan]] 19:16, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

:::Don't have an account, go ahead. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 19:54, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

::::Thanks for your ideas, Morgan and Ederchil.
::::Ederchil: I would prefer a translation of "Lion of the Netherlands" (in the sense of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seventeen_Provinces this]). --[[User:Amroth|Amroth]] 13:54, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

== Thank you for your help ==

Hello Amroth, I am speaching on the behalf of Sociedade de Tolkien Brasileira(or Brazilian Tolkien Society), could you help us to place an external link to our youtube channel? (http:///www.youtube.com/stbtolkien) also I would like to ask you one thing, since WIKIs are only for information porpouse and not personal, political and any other kind of information and does not take "sides" could you consider take a look at this publication it has unreliable and untruth information about us, that is why we have subscribed to your Wiki and edited our own information and links. The page is http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Conselho_Branco,_Sociedade_Tolkien

Just like you have done to our page, so it will have only clean design, and information about the society and not links to personal opinions, foruns, or even lies.

Oh and how can we upload our official trademark?

Regards,
Leandro Schwass {{Unsigned|Stbtolkien}}

:Firstly, welcome to [[Tolkien Gateway]] Leandro.
:After looking at [[The Brazilian Tolkien Society|the article]] I see that a link to the youtube channel has already been added.
:You can upload images by [http://www.tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Special:Upload this page] (you can also find a link under ''Toolbox'' at the leftside).
:Personally, I don't have much knowledge about Tolkien Societies. Could you please specify what information is incorrect. The information on [[Conselho Branco, Sociedade Tolkien]] seems to be good, but it needs to be sourced. I will add a <nowiki>{{fact}}</nowiki>-template and ask [[User:Morgan]] (the creator of the page) if he can take a look in the page and provide sources. Personally, I think [http://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=The_Brazilian_Tolkien_Society&action=historysubmit&diff=186060&oldid=116160 the information that you added to The Brazilian Tolkien Society] could stay at the article if sources are provided. But you have to discuss that with [[User:Ederchil]] (who removed the information).
:I hope, this helps you.
:Sincerely, [[User:Amroth|Amroth]] 16:34, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

::Thank you so much for the information and your kind reply and help. Concerning the specific information is incorrect...on the Conselho branco Wiki Page, they said we were founded in 2000 but it is not true, also that they had the same name of our society, wich is impossible since we are up since 1997 and our name is a registered trademark since 1999 here in Brasil. I think that the information removed from our webpage was not necessary since it only said s few words about how we get here and etc. once Conselho Branco said unreliable things and still has that text on their page, I think since we were only talking things abobut our selves, it could be let there the way it was on our first edition, what you think? also Ederchil did not said why he did that. Who else can know better about ourselves then our selves is not it? lol Once again thank you for your kindness :) {{Unsigned|Stbtolkien}}
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::Everything is ok now. once more thank you for correcting and helping us with our page, and correcting and making more fair the information on the other Wiki Page of our friend society Conselho Branco. This place is a fair place! Congratulation! and Ty :) - Yours, Leandro {{Unsigned|Stbtolkien}}

:::I'm glad to hear that it is correct now :)
:::Though, according to the [[Conselho Branco, Sociedade Tolkien|Conselho article]] it had to change its name because your society was founded earlier, so I don't see how it contradicts. --[[User:Amroth|Amroth]] 17:17, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
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I cant upload an image, and cant find the tool on the left column to do that. I receive a message telling me that only Administrators can do that (or something like that) when I try to click on the link you just gave me. I am So sorry to be a noob ! lol {{Unsigned|Stbtolkien}}

:Hmm, that's strange. You should have permissions to upload files, I'm not an Adminstrator either but I can upload files. If you can give me the link of the image, I'll upload it.
:PS: You can sign your posts by putting '''<nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki>''' at the end of your message. --[[User:Amroth|Amroth]] 19:12, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

::Awesome, here is the link: http://jrrtolkien.com.br/wikilogo/Logo_STB_Wiki.png the description should be like "Logomarca Sociedade de Tolkien Brasileira"

::We already granted the tolkiengateway.net to access the image directly, excluding your domain from our HotLink protection.

::Namarie --[[User:Stbtolkien|Sociedade de Tolkien Brasileira]] 01:50, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

:::Before uploading the image, I've one last question. On TG there is a policy that every file page has to include a [[Tolkien Gateway:File licensing templates|license template]], but I'm not sure under which licensing the trademark would fall. Could you take a look at [[Tolkien Gateway:File licensing templates]], and tell me which licensing template I've to add. I guess it would be [[Tolkien Gateway:File licensing templates#Permission granted|Permission granted]], do you agree with that? Thanks! --[[User:Amroth|Amroth]] 14:12, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
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::: Yes I think so, cuz since the trademark is ours we definitely agree to show our own logo on Tolkien Gateway, it is ok!
--[[User:Stbtolkien|Sociedade de Tolkien Brasileira]] 14:19, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Amroth...magic happened! lol Now we can see the UPLOAD link on the left column, I just uploaded the image see if you can do the right thing to edit that and make it fit the template or style of Tolkien Gateway please!

File:Logo STB Wiki.png

2012-02-17T14:24:32Z

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== LOTRO characters ==

Two things, really:-
# I delinked things like "Narmaleth", "Edhelion" and "Duilond" because there was clearly no intention to create these pages; "Narmaleth" in particular has been sitting as a redlink for three years, which I think is completely unacceptable.
# I don't think listing that someone has grey hair when the image immediately above clearly shows that anyone is tenable. I think there's already an issue vis-a-vis the length of infobox in relation to the length of article for most of these characters, and I don't want to see that made worse (which is why I have limited the width of it). --{{User:Mith/sig}} 19:37, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

:Okay, I'll try to create as few long-time red links as possible. I'll create an article about Edhelion somewhere this year. --[[User:Amroth|Amroth]] 16:55, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

== Moving files ==

When moving a file, please untick the box "Leave a redirect behind" as this doesn't leave a redirect behind for me to delete! --{{User:Mith/sig}} 17:25, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

== Uploading Images ==

Is it possible you could pop into chat sometime this evening? I was hoping to chat to you about some of the stuff you've uploaded. Thanks! --{{User:Mith/sig}} 20:03, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
:Certainly. --[[User:Amroth|Amroth]] 20:06, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

== Translations ==

I've tried to give some possible answers to your questions on Elvish translations [http://www.lotrplaza.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=210917&PN=8&title=language-help-desk-45 here]. Perhaps more knowledgeable people will now feel more tempted to offer their help! ;-) --[[User:Morgan|Morgan]] 16:04, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

:Translating placenames and personal names has been a hobby of mine for a while, and maybe still is. I kinda disagree with your suggestion; UNDU suggests "going down" or "lower than X", not "low-lying". I would pick something with N. cofn, "deep, low-lying". I would also, for purely esthetic purposes, change the word order (a la ''Pays Bas'' instead of Netherlands). I'm not entirely sure on how to properly pluralize cofn, but I think *''i Ndŷr Gufn'' or *''Dôr Gofn'' are both closest to being correct. As for Leo... Do you want a translation for "Belgian Lion", "Netherlandish Lion" or "Dutch (theodisc) Lion"? --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 17:36, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

::Good thinking, Ederchil! Would you mind if I post your suggestions on the Plaza (in order to enrich the discussion), or do you have your own account? --[[User:Morgan|Morgan]] 19:16, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

:::Don't have an account, go ahead. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 19:54, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

::::Thanks for your ideas, Morgan and Ederchil.
::::Ederchil: I would prefer a translation of "Lion of the Netherlands" (in the sense of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seventeen_Provinces this]). --[[User:Amroth|Amroth]] 13:54, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

== Thank you for your help ==

Hello Amroth, I am speaching on the behalf of Sociedade de Tolkien Brasileira(or Brazilian Tolkien Society), could you help us to place an external link to our youtube channel? (http:///www.youtube.com/stbtolkien) also I would like to ask you one thing, since WIKIs are only for information porpouse and not personal, political and any other kind of information and does not take "sides" could you consider take a look at this publication it has unreliable and untruth information about us, that is why we have subscribed to your Wiki and edited our own information and links. The page is http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Conselho_Branco,_Sociedade_Tolkien

Just like you have done to our page, so it will have only clean design, and information about the society and not links to personal opinions, foruns, or even lies.

Oh and how can we upload our official trademark?

Regards,
Leandro Schwass {{Unsigned|Stbtolkien}}

:Firstly, welcome to [[Tolkien Gateway]] Leandro.
:After looking at [[The Brazilian Tolkien Society|the article]] I see that a link to the youtube channel has already been added.
:You can upload images by [http://www.tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Special:Upload this page] (you can also find a link under ''Toolbox'' at the leftside).
:Personally, I don't have much knowledge about Tolkien Societies. Could you please specify what information is incorrect. The information on [[Conselho Branco, Sociedade Tolkien]] seems to be good, but it needs to be sourced. I will add a <nowiki>{{fact}}</nowiki>-template and ask [[User:Morgan]] (the creator of the page) if he can take a look in the page and provide sources. Personally, I think [http://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=The_Brazilian_Tolkien_Society&action=historysubmit&diff=186060&oldid=116160 the information that you added to The Brazilian Tolkien Society] could stay at the article if sources are provided. But you have to discuss that with [[User:Ederchil]] (who removed the information).
:I hope, this helps you.
:Sincerely, [[User:Amroth|Amroth]] 16:34, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

::Thank you so much for the information and your kind reply and help. Concerning the specific information is incorrect...on the Conselho branco Wiki Page, they said we were founded in 2000 but it is not true, also that they had the same name of our society, wich is impossible since we are up since 1997 and our name is a registered trademark since 1999 here in Brasil. I think that the information removed from our webpage was not necessary since it only said s few words about how we get here and etc. once Conselho Branco said unreliable things and still has that text on their page, I think since we were only talking things abobut our selves, it could be let there the way it was on our first edition, what you think? also Ederchil did not said why he did that. Who else can know better about ourselves then our selves is not it? lol Once again thank you for your kindness :) {{Unsigned|Stbtolkien}}
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::Everything is ok now. once more thank you for correcting and helping us with our page, and correcting and making more fair the information on the other Wiki Page of our friend society Conselho Branco. This place is a fair place! Congratulation! and Ty :) - Yours, Leandro {{Unsigned|Stbtolkien}}

:::I'm glad to hear that it is correct now :)
:::Though, according to the [[Conselho Branco, Sociedade Tolkien|Conselho article]] it had to change its name because your society was founded earlier, so I don't see how it contradicts. --[[User:Amroth|Amroth]] 17:17, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
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I cant upload an image, and cant find the tool on the left column to do that. I receive a message telling me that only Administrators can do that (or something like that) when I try to click on the link you just gave me. I am So sorry to be a noob ! lol {{Unsigned|Stbtolkien}}

:Hmm, that's strange. You should have permissions to upload files, I'm not an Adminstrator either but I can upload files. If you can give me the link of the image, I'll upload it.
:PS: You can sign your posts by putting '''<nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki>''' at the end of your message. --[[User:Amroth|Amroth]] 19:12, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

::Awesome, here is the link: http://jrrtolkien.com.br/wikilogo/Logo_STB_Wiki.png the description should be like "Logomarca Sociedade de Tolkien Brasileira"

::We already granted the tolkiengateway.net to access the image directly, excluding your domain from our HotLink protection.

::Namarie --[[User:Stbtolkien|Sociedade de Tolkien Brasileira]] 01:50, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

:::Before uploading the image, I've one last question. On TG there is a policy that every file page has to include a [[Tolkien Gateway:File licensing templates|license template]], but I'm not sure under which licensing the trademark would fall. Could you take a look at [[Tolkien Gateway:File licensing templates]], and tell me which licensing template I've to add. I guess it would be [[Tolkien Gateway:File licensing templates#Permission granted|Permission granted]], do you agree with that? Thanks! --[[User:Amroth|Amroth]] 14:12, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
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::: Yes I think so, cuz since the trademark is ours we definitely agree to show our own logo on Tolkien Gateway, it is ok!
--[[User:Stbtolkien|Sociedade de Tolkien Brasileira]] 14:19, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

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Two things, really:-
# I delinked things like "Narmaleth", "Edhelion" and "Duilond" because there was clearly no intention to create these pages; "Narmaleth" in particular has been sitting as a redlink for three years, which I think is completely unacceptable.
# I don't think listing that someone has grey hair when the image immediately above clearly shows that anyone is tenable. I think there's already an issue vis-a-vis the length of infobox in relation to the length of article for most of these characters, and I don't want to see that made worse (which is why I have limited the width of it). --{{User:Mith/sig}} 19:37, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

:Okay, I'll try to create as few long-time red links as possible. I'll create an article about Edhelion somewhere this year. --[[User:Amroth|Amroth]] 16:55, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

== Moving files ==

When moving a file, please untick the box "Leave a redirect behind" as this doesn't leave a redirect behind for me to delete! --{{User:Mith/sig}} 17:25, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

== Uploading Images ==

Is it possible you could pop into chat sometime this evening? I was hoping to chat to you about some of the stuff you've uploaded. Thanks! --{{User:Mith/sig}} 20:03, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
:Certainly. --[[User:Amroth|Amroth]] 20:06, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

== Translations ==

I've tried to give some possible answers to your questions on Elvish translations [http://www.lotrplaza.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=210917&PN=8&title=language-help-desk-45 here]. Perhaps more knowledgeable people will now feel more tempted to offer their help! ;-) --[[User:Morgan|Morgan]] 16:04, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

:Translating placenames and personal names has been a hobby of mine for a while, and maybe still is. I kinda disagree with your suggestion; UNDU suggests "going down" or "lower than X", not "low-lying". I would pick something with N. cofn, "deep, low-lying". I would also, for purely esthetic purposes, change the word order (a la ''Pays Bas'' instead of Netherlands). I'm not entirely sure on how to properly pluralize cofn, but I think *''i Ndŷr Gufn'' or *''Dôr Gofn'' are both closest to being correct. As for Leo... Do you want a translation for "Belgian Lion", "Netherlandish Lion" or "Dutch (theodisc) Lion"? --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 17:36, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

::Good thinking, Ederchil! Would you mind if I post your suggestions on the Plaza (in order to enrich the discussion), or do you have your own account? --[[User:Morgan|Morgan]] 19:16, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

:::Don't have an account, go ahead. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 19:54, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

::::Thanks for your ideas, Morgan and Ederchil.
::::Ederchil: I would prefer a translation of "Lion of the Netherlands" (in the sense of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seventeen_Provinces this]). --[[User:Amroth|Amroth]] 13:54, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

== Thank you for your help ==

Hello Amroth, I am speaching on the behalf of Sociedade de Tolkien Brasileira(or Brazilian Tolkien Society), could you help us to place an external link to our youtube channel? (http:///www.youtube.com/stbtolkien) also I would like to ask you one thing, since WIKIs are only for information porpouse and not personal, political and any other kind of information and does not take "sides" could you consider take a look at this publication it has unreliable and untruth information about us, that is why we have subscribed to your Wiki and edited our own information and links. The page is http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Conselho_Branco,_Sociedade_Tolkien

Just like you have done to our page, so it will have only clean design, and information about the society and not links to personal opinions, foruns, or even lies.

Oh and how can we upload our official trademark?

Regards,
Leandro Schwass

:Firstly, welcome to [[Tolkien Gateway]] Leandro.
:After looking at [[The Brazilian Tolkien Society|the article]] I see that a link to the youtube channel has already been added.
:You can upload images by [this page http://www.tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Special:Upload this page] (you can also find a link under ''Toolbox'' at the leftside).
:Personally, I don't have much knowledge about Tolkien Societies. Could you please specify what information is incorrect. The information on [[Conselho Branco, Sociedade Tolkien]] seems to be good, but it needs to be sourced. I will add a <nowiki>{{fact}}</nowiki>-template and ask [[User:Morgan]] (the creator of the page) if he can take a look in the page and provide sources. Personally, I think [http://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=The_Brazilian_Tolkien_Society&action=historysubmit&diff=186060&oldid=116160 the information that you added to The Brazilian Tolkien Society] could stay at the article if sources are proviced. But you have to discuss that with [[User:Ederchil]] (who removed the information).
:I hope, this helps you.
:Sincerely, [[User:Amroth|Amroth]] 16:34, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

::Thank you so much for the information and your kind reply and help. Concerning the specific information is incorrect...on the Conselho branco Wiki Page, they said we were founded in 2000 but it is not true, also that they had the same name of our society, wich is impossible since we are up since 1997 and our name is a registered trademark since 1999 here in Brasil. I think that the information removed from our webpage was not necessary since it only said s few words about how we get here and etc. once Conselho Branco said unreliable things and still has that text on their page, I think since we were only talking things abobut our selves, it could be let there the way it was on our first edition, what you think? also Ederchil did not said why he did that. Who else can know better about ourselves then our selves is not it? lol Once again thank you for your kindness :)
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::Everything is ok now. once more thank you for correcting and helping us with our page, and correcting and making more fair the information on the other Wiki Page of our friend society Conselho Branco. This place is a fair place! Congratulation! and Ty :) - Yours, Leandro

:::I'm glad to hear that it is correct now :)
:::Though, according to the [[Conselho Branco, Sociedade Tolkien|Conselho article]] it had to change its name because your society was founded earlier, so I don't see how it contradicts. --[[User:Amroth|Amroth]] 17:17, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
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I cant upload an image, and cant find the tool on the left column to do that. I receive a message telling me that only Administrators can do that (or something like that) when I try to click on the link you just gave me. I am So sorry to be a noob ! lol

:Hmm, that's strange. You should have permissions to upload files, I'm not an Adminstrator either but I can upload files. If you can give me the link of the image, I'll upload it.
:PS: You can sign your posts by putting '''<nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki>''' at the end of your message. --[[User:Amroth|Amroth]] 19:12, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
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Awesome, here is the link: http://jrrtolkien.com.br/wikilogo/Logo_STB_Wiki.png the description should be like "Logomarca Sociedade de Tolkien Brasileira"

We already granted the tolkiengateway.net to access the image directly, excluding your domain from our HotLink protection.

Namarie --[[User:Stbtolkien|Sociedade de Tolkien Brasileira]] 01:50, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

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== LOTRO characters ==

Two things, really:-
# I delinked things like "Narmaleth", "Edhelion" and "Duilond" because there was clearly no intention to create these pages; "Narmaleth" in particular has been sitting as a redlink for three years, which I think is completely unacceptable.
# I don't think listing that someone has grey hair when the image immediately above clearly shows that anyone is tenable. I think there's already an issue vis-a-vis the length of infobox in relation to the length of article for most of these characters, and I don't want to see that made worse (which is why I have limited the width of it). --{{User:Mith/sig}} 19:37, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

:Okay, I'll try to create as few long-time red links as possible. I'll create an article about Edhelion somewhere this year. --[[User:Amroth|Amroth]] 16:55, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

== Moving files ==

When moving a file, please untick the box "Leave a redirect behind" as this doesn't leave a redirect behind for me to delete! --{{User:Mith/sig}} 17:25, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

== Uploading Images ==

Is it possible you could pop into chat sometime this evening? I was hoping to chat to you about some of the stuff you've uploaded. Thanks! --{{User:Mith/sig}} 20:03, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
:Certainly. --[[User:Amroth|Amroth]] 20:06, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

== Translations ==

I've tried to give some possible answers to your questions on Elvish translations [http://www.lotrplaza.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=210917&PN=8&title=language-help-desk-45 here]. Perhaps more knowledgeable people will now feel more tempted to offer their help! ;-) --[[User:Morgan|Morgan]] 16:04, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

:Translating placenames and personal names has been a hobby of mine for a while, and maybe still is. I kinda disagree with your suggestion; UNDU suggests "going down" or "lower than X", not "low-lying". I would pick something with N. cofn, "deep, low-lying". I would also, for purely esthetic purposes, change the word order (a la ''Pays Bas'' instead of Netherlands). I'm not entirely sure on how to properly pluralize cofn, but I think *''i Ndŷr Gufn'' or *''Dôr Gofn'' are both closest to being correct. As for Leo... Do you want a translation for "Belgian Lion", "Netherlandish Lion" or "Dutch (theodisc) Lion"? --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 17:36, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

::Good thinking, Ederchil! Would you mind if I post your suggestions on the Plaza (in order to enrich the discussion), or do you have your own account? --[[User:Morgan|Morgan]] 19:16, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

:::Don't have an account, go ahead. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 19:54, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

::::Thanks for your ideas, Morgan and Ederchil.
::::Ederchil: I would prefer a translation of "Lion of the Netherlands" (in the sense of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seventeen_Provinces this]). --[[User:Amroth|Amroth]] 13:54, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

== Thank you for your help ==

Hello Amroth, I am speaching on the behalf of Sociedade de Tolkien Brasileira(or Brazilian Tolkien Society), could you help us to place an external link to our youtube channel? (http:///www.youtube.com/stbtolkien) also I would like to ask you one thing, since WIKIs are only for information porpouse and not personal, political and any other kind of information and does not take "sides" could you consider take a look at this publication it has unreliable and untruth information about us, that is why we have subscribed to your Wiki and edited our own information and links. The page is http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Conselho_Branco,_Sociedade_Tolkien

Just like you have done to our page, so it will have only clean design, and information about the society and not links to personal opinions, foruns, or even lies.

Oh and how can we upload our official trademark?

Regards,
Leandro Schwass

:Firstly, welcome to [[Tolkien Gateway]] Leandro.
:After looking at [[The Brazilian Tolkien Society|the article]] I see that a link to the youtube channel has already been added.
:You can upload images by [this page http://www.tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Special:Upload this page] (you can also find a link under ''Toolbox'' at the leftside).
:Personally, I don't have much knowledge about Tolkien Societies. Could you please specify what information is incorrect. The information on [[Conselho Branco, Sociedade Tolkien]] seems to be good, but it needs to be sourced. I will add a <nowiki>{{fact}}</nowiki>-template and ask [[User:Morgan]] (the creator of the page) if he can take a look in the page and provide sources. Personally, I think [http://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=The_Brazilian_Tolkien_Society&action=historysubmit&diff=186060&oldid=116160 the information that you added to The Brazilian Tolkien Society] could stay at the article if sources are proviced. But you have to discuss that with [[User:Ederchil]] (who removed the information).
:I hope, this helps you.
:Sincerely, [[User:Amroth|Amroth]] 16:34, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

::Thank you so much for the information and your kind reply and help. Concerning the specific information is incorrect...on the Conselho branco Wiki Page, they said we were founded in 2000 but it is not true, also that they had the same name of our society, wich is impossible since we are up since 1997 and our name is a registered trademark since 1999 here in Brasil. I think that the information removed from our webpage was not necessary since it only said s few words about how we get here and etc. once Conselho Branco said unreliable things and still has that text on their page, I think since we were only talking things abobut our selves, it could be let there the way it was on our first edition, what you think? also Ederchil did not said why he did that. Who else can know better about ourselves then our selves is not it? lol Once again thank you for your kindness :)
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::Everything is ok now. once more thank you for correcting and helping us with our page, and correcting and making more fair the information on the other Wiki Page of our friend society Conselho Branco. This place is a fair place! Congratulation! and Ty :) - Yours, Leandro

:::I'm glad to hear that it is correct now :)
:::Though, according to the [[Conselho Branco, Sociedade Tolkien|Conselho article]] it had to change its name because your society was founded earlier, so I don't see how it contradicts. --[[User:Amroth|Amroth]] 17:17, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
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I cant upload an image, and cant find the tool on the left column to do that. I receive a message telling me that only Administrators can do that (or something like that) when I try to click on the link you just gave me. I am So sorry to be a noob ! lol

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The Brazilian Tolkien Society

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Stbtolkien:

'''Sociedade de Tolkien Brasileira''' (Brazilian: '''Brazilian Tolkien Society'''), abbreviated STB or BTS, is a Tolkien Society in Brazil. It was founded on [[16 November]] [[1997]].

== External links ==
* '''[http://www.jrrtolkien.com.br Official website]'''
* [http://www.facebook.com/groups/sociedadetolkienbrasileira Sociedade de Tolkien Brasileira] at FaceBook
* [http://www.youtube.com/stbtolkien Sociedade de Tolkien Brasileira] at YouTube

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The Brazilian Tolkien Society

2012-02-16T15:43:09Z

Stbtolkien:

'''Sociedade de Tolkien Brasileira''' (original name honoring the Tolkien Society (UK) Brazilian Tolkien Society wich obviously is translated to Brazilian Portuguese like the title of this page; often abbreviated to STB or BTS) is a Tolkien Society in Brazil, founded in November, 16th, 1997 and on the Internet in 1999/2000.<ref>[http://www.jrrtolkien.com.br Sociedade de Tolkien Brasileira]</ref><br>

Since the foundation of STB (BTS) our works are maintaining and spreading the words, thoughts and works of teh Professor J.R.R. Tolkien everywhere, everytime non stop! Unfortunetely our website was hacked in 2009/2010 and all our data bank with thousands of information, pictures, games and many other resources was lost.<br><br> We decided to stay out of the internet for a long time, but we have reconsidered this decision in october 2010, and now we are back once more on the Internet and now we are participating of many other social midia networks suchs as Facebook Fan Page <ref>[http://www.facebook.com/stbtolkien FACEBOOK FAN PAGE ]</ref>, Facebook Profile <ref>[http://www.facebook.com/sociedadetolkienbrasileira FACEBOOK PROFILE ]</ref>, Facebook Open Group <ref>[http://www.facebook.com/groups/sociedadetolkienbrasileira FACEBOOK GROUP ]</ref>, Twitter <ref>[http://www.twitter.com/stbtolkien TWITTER PROFILE]</ref> and Youtube Channel <ref>[http://www;youtube.com/stbtolkien YOUTUBE CHANNEL ]</ref>{{references}}
<br>
[[CATEGORY:Brazilian organizations|Sociedade de Tolkien Brasileira]]
[[CATEGORY:Tolkien Societies|Brazilian Tolkien Society (Sociedade de Tolkien Brasileira]]--[[User:Stbtolkien|Sociedade de Tolkien Brasileira]] 15:43, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

The Brazilian Tolkien Society

2012-02-16T15:35:50Z

Stbtolkien:

'''Sociedade de Tolkien Brasileira''' (original name honoring the Tolkien Society (UK) Brazilian Tolkien Society wich obviously is translated to Brazilian Portuguese like the title of this page; often abbreviated to STB or BTS) is a Tolkien Society in Brazil, founded in November, 16th, 1997 and on the Internet in 1999/2000.<ref>[http://www.jrrtolkien.com.br Sociedade de Tolkien Brasileira]</ref>

Since the foundation of STB (BTS) our works are maintaining and spreading the words, thoughts and works of teh Professor J.R.R. Tolkien everywhere, everytime non stop! Unfortunetely our website was hacked in 2009/2010 and all our data bank with thousands of information, pictures, games and many other resources was lost. we decided to stay out of the internet for a long time, but we have reconsidered this decision in october 2010, and now we are back once more on the Internet and now we are participating of many other social midia networks suchs as Facebook Fan Page <ref>[http://www.facebook.com/stbtolkien FACEBOOK FAN PAGE ]</ref>, Facebook Profile <ref>[http://www.facebook.com/sociedadetolkienbrasileira FACEBOOK PROFILE ]</ref>, Facebook Open Group <ref>[http://www.facebook.com/groups/sociedadetolkienbrasileira FACEBOOK GROUP ]</ref>, Twitter <ref>[http://www.twitter.com/stbtolkien TWITTER PROFILE]</ref> and Youtube Channel <ref>[http://www;youtube.com/stbtolkien YOUTUBE CHANNEL ]</ref>{{references}}
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[[CATEGORY:Brazilian organizations|Sociedade de Tolkien Brasileira]]
[[CATEGORY:Tolkien Societies|Brazilian Tolkien Society (Sociedade de Tolkien Brasileira]]