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Théodred

2011-01-29T23:46:13Z

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| death= [[February 25]], {{TA|3019}}
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'''Théodred''' ([[Third Age|T.A.]] 2978-3019) was the only son and heir of King [[Théoden]] of [[Rohan]]. His mother, [[Elfhild]], died in childbirth.

==History==

Théodred held the title of Second Marshal of the Mark, and was slain in the [[First Battle of the Fords of Isen]] defending the islet in the middle of the ford. With no siblings, this made his cousin, [[Éomer]], heir to the throne of Rohan.

== Etymology ==
Théodred's name is probably taken from the Anglo-Saxon words "þeod" ("folk", "people", "nation") and "ræd" ("counsel").

== Portrayal in Adaptations ==
'''[[2002]]: ''[[The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers]]'':'''
* The death of Théodred is a major event early in the movie, whereas, in the book, it has all happened by the time the Three Hunters come to Rohan. He is played by [[Paris Howe Strewe]]. It is curious that here he looks much younger than he was in the novel, and quite younger than his cousins (especially [[Éowyn]], who looks a bit too older than her 23 year old literary counterpart).

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Orodreth

2010-12-05T18:01:45Z

Stphns: /* Genealogy */

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{{disambig-two|the Elf of Nargothrond|the Steward of Gondor|[[Orodreth (Steward of Gondor)]]}}
{{noldor infobox
| image=[[Image:Marya Filatova - Orodreth.jpg|248px]]
| name=Orodreth
| othernames=''Artaresto''
| titles=[[King of Nargothrond]]
| birth=During the [[Years of the Trees]]
| birthlocation=[[Tirion]]
| realm=[[Nargothrond]]
| death={{FA|495}}
| age=c. 550 years
| parentage=[[Angrod]] + [[Eldalótë]]
| spouse=Unknown
| children=[[Gil-galad]] and [[Finduilas of Nargothrond|Finduilas]]
| gender=Male
| hair=Dark
|}}
'''Orodreth''' ([[Sindarin|S]], pron. {{IPA|[oˈrodreθ]}}) was an [[Elves|Elf]] of the First Age, the son of [[Angrod]] and nephew of [[Finrod Felagund]]. His name in [[Quenya]] was '''Artaresto''' (pron. {{IPA|[ˌartaˈresto]}}). Orodreth was born in [[Valinor]].

==History==
Orodreth held the isle of [[Minas Tirith (Beleriand)|Minas Tirith]] in the vale of [[Sirion]] until [[Sauron]] overran the isle and turned it into [[Tol-in-Gaurhoth]]. Orodreth then fled south to Nargothrond.

When [[Beren]] came to Nargothrond, Finrod went with him on his quest for the [[Silmarils|Silmaril]]. However [[Celegorm]] and [[Curufin]] the [[Sons of Fëanor]] were also at Nargothrond, and forced Finrod to help Beren alone, without his people. Orodreth took up the crown, ruling as regent, but the [[Sons of Fëanor]] held the real power. Curufin called him "a dullard slow" in the [[Lay of Leithian]], and with his brother Celegorm plotted to take over Nargothrond if news came of Finrod's death. However when news came that Finrod had been killed and Tol-in-Gaurhoth destroyed, the Sons of Fëanor were shamed and fell from power – the people cried out that the maiden [[Luthien]] had done what the Sons of Fëanor had not (thrown down Sauron). Orodreth returned to power and expelled the Sons of Fëanor from Nargothrond.

When [[Túrin|Túrin Turambar]] arrived in Nargothrond he quickly became Orodreth's closest councillor. Turin convinced Orodreth and the people of Nargothrond to abandon their secretive 'guerilla' strategies and declare open war against [[Morgoth]]. Though initially appearing successful, this policy eventually led to the destruction of Nargothrond: Orodreth was slain along with most of his forces at the disastrous [[Battle of Tumhalad]], leaving his people defenceless in the [[sack of Nargothrond]] by [[Glaurung]] the dragon and the forces of Morgoth.

== Genealogy ==
{{familytree/start}}
{{familytree| | | | FIN |y| EAR | | | |FIN=[[Finarfin]]|EAR=[[Eärwen]]}}
{{familytree| |,|-|-|-|v|^|-|-|v|-|-|.}}
{{familytree| FND | | ANG | | AEG | | GAL | FND=[[Finrod]]|ANG=[[Angrod]]|AEG=[[Aegnor]]|GAL=[[Galadriel]]}}
{{familytree| | | | | |!| | | | | | | }}
{{familytree| | | | | ORO | | | | | | |ORO='''ORODRETH'''}}
{{familytree| | | |,|-|^|-|.| | | | | }}
{{familytree| | | GIL | | FIN | | | | |GIL=[[Gil-galad]]|FIN=[[Finduilas of Nargothrond|Finduilas]]}}
{{familytree/end}}

Note: In LQ2 version of the chapter "of Beleriand and its Realms" Orodreth is brother of Angrod and Aegnor. Quoting: "And Ingolr [= Finrod] held the pass of Sirion, and built a great watchtower, Minnastirith [= Minas Tirith], upon an isle in the midst of the river; but after the founding of Nargothrond this fortress he committed mostly to the keeping of his brother Orodreth. His younger brethren Angrod and Egnor [= Aegnor] watched the fields of Bladirion [= Ard-galen] from the northern slopes of Dorthonion".

== Other Versions of the Legendarium ==
In earlier versions of ''[[the Silmarillion]]'' legendarium as detailed in [[the History of Middle-earth]] series, Orodreth was a more important character, and the original king of Nargothrond. However his importance diminished over time.

In the published ''Silmarillion'', Orodreth is a son of Finarfin, with Quenya name '''Artanáro'''. In the earlier version Gil-galad, later High King of the Ñoldor, was his son, but in the published Silmarillion Gil-galad is made into [[Fingon]]'s son instead. An earlier idea was that Orodreth's son was named '''Hallas''', but Gil-galad replaced him. In [[The Children of Húrin]] Orodreth is once again the son of Finarfin, for reasons unstated. One can assume this was so as not to confuse readers already familiar with The Silmarillion.

In his last writings, Tolkien changed Orodreth's name to '''[[Artaher]]''' (Quenya) / '''Arothir''' (Sindarin), but it was never introduced in any narratives, so Christopher Tolkien left the name Orodreth unchanged. It is probable the Sindarin name Orodreth would have been retained nonetheless: Tolkien seldom changed names after they had long been used, even if only in unpublished writings.

==See also==
* [[:Category:Images of Orodreth|Images of Orodreth]]
[[Category:House of Finarfin]]
[[Category:House of Olwë]]
[[de:Orodreth (Elb)]]
[[fr:encyclo/personnages/elfes/noldor/orodreth]]
[[fi:Orodreth]]

Orodreth

2010-12-05T18:01:22Z

Stphns: /* Genealogy */

{{sources}}
{{expansion}}
{{disambig-two|the Elf of Nargothrond|the Steward of Gondor|[[Orodreth (Steward of Gondor)]]}}
{{noldor infobox
| image=[[Image:Marya Filatova - Orodreth.jpg|248px]]
| name=Orodreth
| othernames=''Artaresto''
| titles=[[King of Nargothrond]]
| birth=During the [[Years of the Trees]]
| birthlocation=[[Tirion]]
| realm=[[Nargothrond]]
| death={{FA|495}}
| age=c. 550 years
| parentage=[[Angrod]] + [[Eldalótë]]
| spouse=Unknown
| children=[[Gil-galad]] and [[Finduilas of Nargothrond|Finduilas]]
| gender=Male
| hair=Dark
|}}
'''Orodreth''' ([[Sindarin|S]], pron. {{IPA|[oˈrodreθ]}}) was an [[Elves|Elf]] of the First Age, the son of [[Angrod]] and nephew of [[Finrod Felagund]]. His name in [[Quenya]] was '''Artaresto''' (pron. {{IPA|[ˌartaˈresto]}}). Orodreth was born in [[Valinor]].

==History==
Orodreth held the isle of [[Minas Tirith (Beleriand)|Minas Tirith]] in the vale of [[Sirion]] until [[Sauron]] overran the isle and turned it into [[Tol-in-Gaurhoth]]. Orodreth then fled south to Nargothrond.

When [[Beren]] came to Nargothrond, Finrod went with him on his quest for the [[Silmarils|Silmaril]]. However [[Celegorm]] and [[Curufin]] the [[Sons of Fëanor]] were also at Nargothrond, and forced Finrod to help Beren alone, without his people. Orodreth took up the crown, ruling as regent, but the [[Sons of Fëanor]] held the real power. Curufin called him "a dullard slow" in the [[Lay of Leithian]], and with his brother Celegorm plotted to take over Nargothrond if news came of Finrod's death. However when news came that Finrod had been killed and Tol-in-Gaurhoth destroyed, the Sons of Fëanor were shamed and fell from power – the people cried out that the maiden [[Luthien]] had done what the Sons of Fëanor had not (thrown down Sauron). Orodreth returned to power and expelled the Sons of Fëanor from Nargothrond.

When [[Túrin|Túrin Turambar]] arrived in Nargothrond he quickly became Orodreth's closest councillor. Turin convinced Orodreth and the people of Nargothrond to abandon their secretive 'guerilla' strategies and declare open war against [[Morgoth]]. Though initially appearing successful, this policy eventually led to the destruction of Nargothrond: Orodreth was slain along with most of his forces at the disastrous [[Battle of Tumhalad]], leaving his people defenceless in the [[sack of Nargothrond]] by [[Glaurung]] the dragon and the forces of Morgoth.

== Genealogy ==
{{familytree/start}}
{{familytree| | | | FIN |y| EAR | | | |FIN=[[Finarfin]]|EAR=[[Eärwen]]}}
{{familytree| |,|-|-|-|v|^|-|-|v|-|-|.}}
{{familytree| FND | | ANG | | AEG | | GAL | FND=[[Finrod]]|ANG=[[Angrod]]|AEG=[[Aegnor]]|GAL=[[Galadriel]]}}
{{familytree| | | | | |!| | | | | | | }}
{{familytree| | | | | ORO | | | | | | |ORO='''ORODRETH'''}}
{{familytree| | | |,|-|^|-|.| | | | | }}
{{familytree| | | GIL | | FIN | | | | |GIL=[[Gil-galad]]|FIN=[[Finduilas of Nargothrond|Finduilas]]}}
{{familytree/end}}

In LQ2 version of the chapter "of Beleriand and its Realms" Orodreth is brother of Angrod and Aegnor. Quoting: "And Ingolr [= Finrod] held the pass of Sirion, and built a great watchtower, Minnastirith [= Minas Tirith], upon an isle in the midst of the river; but after the founding of Nargothrond this fortress he committed mostly to the keeping of his brother Orodreth. His younger brethren Angrod and Egnor [= Aegnor] watched the fields of Bladirion [= Ard-galen] from the northern slopes of Dorthonion".

== Other Versions of the Legendarium ==
In earlier versions of ''[[the Silmarillion]]'' legendarium as detailed in [[the History of Middle-earth]] series, Orodreth was a more important character, and the original king of Nargothrond. However his importance diminished over time.

In the published ''Silmarillion'', Orodreth is a son of Finarfin, with Quenya name '''Artanáro'''. In the earlier version Gil-galad, later High King of the Ñoldor, was his son, but in the published Silmarillion Gil-galad is made into [[Fingon]]'s son instead. An earlier idea was that Orodreth's son was named '''Hallas''', but Gil-galad replaced him. In [[The Children of Húrin]] Orodreth is once again the son of Finarfin, for reasons unstated. One can assume this was so as not to confuse readers already familiar with The Silmarillion.

In his last writings, Tolkien changed Orodreth's name to '''[[Artaher]]''' (Quenya) / '''Arothir''' (Sindarin), but it was never introduced in any narratives, so Christopher Tolkien left the name Orodreth unchanged. It is probable the Sindarin name Orodreth would have been retained nonetheless: Tolkien seldom changed names after they had long been used, even if only in unpublished writings.

==See also==
* [[:Category:Images of Orodreth|Images of Orodreth]]
[[Category:House of Finarfin]]
[[Category:House of Olwë]]
[[de:Orodreth (Elb)]]
[[fr:encyclo/personnages/elfes/noldor/orodreth]]
[[fi:Orodreth]]

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