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Estel

2025-05-13T15:55:25Z

TreeBeard2528: /* Estel in Arda's History */

{{disambig-more|Hope|[[Hope (disambiguation)]]}}
'''Estel''' is the [[Sindarin]] word for "hope" or "trust".<ref>{{PE|17}}, p. 117</ref> It was a name of [[Aragorn]], given to him when his mother [[Gilraen]] took him to [[Rivendell]] as a child.<ref>{{App|Tale}}, p. 1061</ref>

==Examples==
*''[[Estelmo|'''Estel'''mo]]'' = "Hope-person"
*''[[Gil-Estel|Gil-'''Estel''']]'' = "Star of High Hope"
*''[[Gilraen's linnod|ú-chebin '''estel''' anim]]'' = "I have kept no hope for myself"
*''[[Rochon Methestel|Rochon Meth'''estel''']]'' = "Rider of the Last Hope"

==Philosophical concept==
{{Quote|"There, peeping among the cloud-wrack above a dark tor high up in the mountains, Sam saw a white star twinkle for a while. The beauty of it smote his heart, as he looked up out of the forsaken land, and hope returned to him. For like a shaft, clear and cold, the thought pierced him that in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach."|''[[The Return of the King]]''<ref>{{RK|Shadow|50}},p.922</ref>}}

The Elvish word ''estel'' (the same in both [[Quenya]] and [[Sindarin]]) refers to a complex philosophical concept found in [[Elvish]] thought. This idea is best understood as ''trust'' or "''faith''", and the hope that comes from it: ''estel'' refers to the belief that [[Eru Ilúvatar]], the Creator of the Universe ([[Eä]]), is good and that his designs for his creatures will ultimately be good as well, despite the troubles that seem to plague [[Arda]], this world. Certain knowledge of what is to happen to the Elves after the end of Arda has thus been withheld from them, so that all they can rely on is ''estel''. The Elven-king [[Finrod Felagund]] explained estel as an idea that "is not defeated by the ways of the world, for it does not come from experience, but from our nature and first being. If we are indeed the [[Eruhíni|Eruchin]], the Children of the One, then He will not suffer Himself to be deprived of His own, not by any Enemy, not even by ourselves".

Estel is also connected to the more immediate hope found in the [[Children of Ilúvatar]] that keeps them from being overcome by the hardships of [[Arda Marred]]; the [[Valar]] refer to this gift as the ability to appreciate "the Unmarred that they discern in the Marred".<ref>[[J.R.R. Tolkien]], [[Christopher Tolkien]] (ed.), ''[[Morgoth's Ring]]'', "Part three. [[The Later Quenta Silmarillion]]. II The Second Phase. Laws and customs among the Eldar", p.245.</ref> That is, the Children of Ilúvatar can see what is good about Arda in its present state, despite its corruption by [[Morgoth]]. It's ''estel'' that gives them this ability.

''Estel'' is similar to, but more based on the heart than, ''[[amdir]]'', another Sindarin word that can be translated as "hope".<ref>[[J.R.R. Tolkien]], [[Christopher Tolkien]] (ed.), ''[[Morgoth's Ring]]'', "Part four. [[Athrabeth Finrod ah Andreth]]: "The Debate of Finrod and Andreth".</ref>

==''Estel'' in Arda's History==
{{Quote|"In the armour of Fate there is ever a rift, and in the walls of Doom a breach, until [[the End]]. So it shall be while I endure, a secret voice that gainsayeth, and a light where darkness was decreed."|[[Ulmo]]<ref>{{UT|Tuor}}</ref>}}

According to the Elvish tradition, ''estel'' was one of only two things Eru demanded from his Children; the other was belief that he existed in the first place. Lack of estel was seen as a fault in the ''[[fëa]]'' of a person, and could have grave consequences: the most drastic example of a being lacking in ''estel'' is none other than that of Morgoth himself; his denial of the greatness of Eru led to his nihilism and despair. The failing of ''estel'' found in [[Finwë]], the first [[High King of the Noldor]], of his wife [[Míriel]] ever returning to him from the Halls of [[Mandos]] is another example. Finwë's decision to take another wife led to the strife between his sons that was instrumental to the tragic [[Fall of the Noldor]]. Ultimately, most poor choices of Elves and [[Men]] come from a failing in ''estel''.

==''Estel'' and Men==

Unlike the Elves, the foundation of estel in Men was said to have been shaken because of [[Tale of Adanel|their corruption by Morgoth]] in the earliest days of their race. Because they had denied the supremacy of Eru and taken Melkor as their God, they could no longer believe with certainty that Eru would accept them. This lack of estel in Men had an effect on their view of their mortality, which was originally their [[Gift of Men|Gift]] from Eru.

==Other versions of the legendarium==

In an early version of the ''[[Many Partings]]'' chapter, [[Gandalf]] gives to [[Frodo]] and [[Sam]] the names ''Bronwe athan Harthad'' ("Endurance beyond hope") and ''Hartad Uluithiad'' ("Hope unquenchable"), with ''Harthad'' being the [[Noldorin]] word for hope.<ref>{{SD|VII}}</ref>
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Ainur

2025-04-10T21:39:15Z

TreeBeard2528: /* Line of Melian */

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The '''Ainur''' (singular '''Ainu''') were divine [[spirits]], the "Holy Ones". They were the first beings created by [[Ilúvatar]], the "order" of the [[Valar]] and [[Maiar]], made before [[Eä]].<ref name="Ainu">{{S|Ainu}}</ref>

==History==
===Origins===
{{Main|Creation of the Ainur}}
The Ainur were the first, and mightiest, beings created by [[Ilúvatar]] before the beginning of the World. The Ainur were the "offspring of [[Ilúvatar]]'s thought", and each was given understanding only of that part of the mind of Ilúvatar from which they came. The exception to this was [[Melkor]], the greatest of the Ainur, who had a part of the gifts of all the others.

Although all Ainur are made of the thought of Ilúvatar, in His mind some were siblings. Thus for instance, [[Melkor]] and [[Manwë]] were considered brothers.

The Ainur were "kindled with the [[Flame Imperishable]]". Ilúvatar instructed them in music, until he brought them together to make the [[Music of the Ainur]]; the great song that created the [[Vision of Ilúvatar]] and ultimately the real World.<ref name="Ainu" />

===Within Eä===
Through the Music of the Ainur, Ilúvatar created a Vision of the World, and explained much of its nature and destiny to them – so the Ainur have much knowledge of the World, but are not omniscient. Then [[Ilúvatar]] granted the World true being. Many of the Ainur desired to descend into it and form it in readiness for the coming of the [[Children of Ilúvatar]] ([[Elves]] and [[Men]]).<ref name="Ainu" /> Fourteen of these great Ainur became the [[Valar]], or Powers of [[Arda]].<ref>{{S|IIb}}</ref> The fifteenth, Melkor, turned aside from that path and became known as [[Morgoth]], the Dark Enemy.<ref>{{S|IId}}</ref> The many lesser Ainur that accompanied the Valar into [[Arda]] are known as [[Maiar]].<ref>{{S|IIc}}</ref>

Those Ainur who entered the World at its beginning remain bound to it until its end.<ref name="Ainu" /> Though Melkor was eventually thrown into the [[Void]] by the others, he is prophesied to return before [[the End]].<ref name="Istari">{{UT|Istari}}</ref> Little is known of the ultimate future of the Ainur, even by themselves, but it is said that, after the death of the World, they will make a [[Second Music of the Ainur|Second Music]], even greater, with the race of [[Men]].<ref>{{S|1}}</ref>

==Characteristics==
The Ainur are [[immortal]], angelic beings. Nonetheless they do possess gender. Those who later descended to Arda took on common male and female forms to appear to the Elves in, and have an inherent male or female gender even when formless. This is because their gender is based on their being, which is independent of any physical form they may assume.<ref name="Ainu" /> But unlike the [[Children of Ilúvatar]], they do not actually need [[hröa]]r. Nevertheless, they can take tangible physical form called '''''[[fana]]''''', but this is a manifestation of their spirit and they do not technically have bodies the way [[Elves]] and [[Men]] do. As such, an Ainu cannot quite be killed. However, Ainur's spirits can be weakened, in ways that hinder their ability to take shapes, influence the world, or even affect the world at all.<ref>{{L|200}}</ref>

For example, [[Sauron]]'s spirit was repeatedly weakened by successive damage when he was defeated by [[Huan]] in the form of a [[Werewolf]];<ref>{{S|Beren}}</ref> in the [[Downfall of Númenor]] which destroyed his ability to take fair form;<ref>{{S|Akallabeth}}</ref> his defeat in the [[War of the Last Alliance]] when he lost the ability to take a physical form,<ref>{{S|Rings}}</ref> and had to regain his power in the [[East]] for about 1000 years;<ref>{{App|TA}}</ref> and finally with the destruction of [[the One Ring]] which broke his ability to affect the world at all, reducing his spirit to a state that could no longer do harm.<ref>{{RK|VI4}}</ref> None of these things killed Sauron outright. A similar fate faced [[Saruman]] when he was murdered by [[Gríma]] – because of his evil deeds, his spirit was allowed to fade as Sauron's spirit faded.<ref>{{RK|VI8}}</ref>

But when [[Gandalf|Gandalf the Grey]] was killed by [[Durin's Bane]], not only was he brought back, but his spirit was significantly restrengthened into an even more powerful form, [[Gandalf|Gandalf the White]].<ref>{{TT|III5}}</ref>

[[Morgoth|Melkor]] though was the most powerful of the Ainur (greater than the rest of the Valar combined), and his spirit, instead of fading away, was exiled from [[Arda]] altogether through the [[Door of Night]] into the [[Void]]. It's prophesied that Melkor would return at the [[Final Battle|Dagor Dagorath]] in Arda's last days for one final confrontation against the Valar and the Children of Ilúvatar. In this confrontation, it is stated that he is "destroyed".<ref name="Istari" />

==Line of Melian==
One of the [[Maiar]] named [[Melian]], alone of all the Ainur, wedded an [[Elves|Elf]], King [[Thingol|Elu Thingol]] of [[Doriath]].<ref>{{S|Thingol}}</ref> From her, a strain of the Ainur entered the bloodlines of the [[Elves]] and [[Men]], passed down through generations. [[Elrond]] and [[Elros]] were Melian's descendants as well as the [[Kings of Númenor]] and their heirs.

==Etymology==
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The word ''Ainu'' is [[Quenya]] and is related to words for "holiness" such as ''[[aina]]'';<ref>{{S|Appendix}} ''aina''</ref> the female form is given as '''''Aini'''''.<ref>{{LR|Etymologies}}, entry "AYAN"</ref>

It is derived from the original [[Valarin]] word for ''Ainur'', which was '''''Ayanûz'''''.<ref>{{WJ|Quendi}}, p. 399</ref>

They are also referred to as '''Great Ones''' or '''Holy Ones'''.<ref name="Ainu" />

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The Lord of the Rings: The Hunt for Gollum

2025-04-10T21:27:33Z

TreeBeard2528:

{{Disambig-two|the 2027 film adaptation|2009 fan film|[[The Hunt for Gollum]]}}
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'''''The Lord of the Rings: The Hunt for Gollum''''' is the working title of a forthcoming film adaptation currently in active development and set for a [[2027]] release, the first of a planned series of Tolkien franchise films to be produced by [[New Line Cinema]], a division of [[Warner Bros.|Warner Brothers]].<ref>{{webcite|author=Matt Donnelly|articleurl=https://variety.com/2023/film/news/lord-of-the-rings-new-movies-warner-bros-1235533672/|articlename=New ‘Lord of the Rings’ Movies Set at Warner Bros. |dated=23 February 2023|website=[https://variety.com/ Variety]|accessed=10 June 2024}}</ref>

It will be directed by and star [[Andy Serkis]], who played [[Gollum]] in [[Peter Jackson]]'s [[The Lord of the Rings (film series)|''Lord of the Rings'' film trilogy]] and [[The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey|''An Unexpected Journey'']] and who directed second unit on ''[[The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King|The Return of the King]]'' and [[The Hobbit (film series)|''The Hobbit'' film trilogy]].

Jackson will produce with his co-writing team of [[Fran Walsh]] and [[Philippa Boyens]], who will also write the screenplay with ''[[The Lord of the Rings: The War of the Rohirrim|The War of the Rohirrim]]'' scribes Phoebe Gittins and Arty Papageorgiou. Serkis, his ''Imaginarium'' partner Jonathan Cavendish and Jackson's agent [[Ken Kamins]] will executive produce, alongside New Line heads Pam Abdy and ''Lord of the Rings'' alum Michael de Luca.<ref name="Gollum">{{webcite|author=Jennifer Maas|articleurl=https://variety.com/2024/film/news/lord-of-the-rings-movie-2026-release-warner-bros-1235997102/|articlename=Warner Bros. to Release New ‘Lord of the Rings’ Movie ‘The Hunt for Gollum’ in 2026, Peter Jackson to Produce and Andy Serkis to Direct|dated=9 May 2024|website=[https://variety.com/ Variety]|accessed=8 June 2024}}</ref>

Like the ''Lord of the Rings'' film trilogy, ''The Hunt for Gollum'' is to be produced in New Zealand with visual effects by [[Wētā FX]]. No details about the plot have been revealed except that the film will feature Gollum and "explore storylines yet to be told."<ref name="Gollum" />

==Development==

===Early development===
Jackson first publicly expressed interest in filming "Gandalf and Aragorn hunting Gollum, and his capture by Orcs"<ref>{{Cite web|articleurl=https://members.tripod.com/peter_jackson_online/lotr/articles/20_questions2.htm|articlename=20 QUESTIONS WITH PETER JACKSON- PART 2|author=Harry Knowles|dated=30 August 1998|website=Ain't It Cool News}}</ref> in August 1998, having come to the realization while working on a draft of ''The Fellowship of the Ring'' "several weeks" earlier that he "just couldn't put [it] into the movie."<ref>Peter Jackson, Philippa Boyens, Fran Walsh, "Director's Commentary", Peter Jackson, ''The Lord of the Rings trilogy'' (New Line Cinema: 2004).</ref> At the time, the idea was to shoot this as additional material and add it into the extended edition, but by 2002 Jackson had discussed filming a "Lord of the Rings prequel", along with ''The Hobbit,'' with composer Howard Shore and executive producer Mark Ordesky.<ref>{{Cite web|articleurl=https://www.theonering.net/torwp/2006/11/19/24053-peter-jackson-and-fran-walsh-talk-the-hobbit-2/|articlename=Peter Jackson and Fran Walsh Talk THE HOBBIT|author=Xoanon|dated=19 November 2006|website=The One Ring.net}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web|articleurl=https://www.rhino.com/article/interview-howard-shore-the-lord-of-the-rings|articlename=INTERVIEW: Howard Shore (“The Lord of the Rings”)|author=Will Harris|dated=27 April 2018|website=Rhino}}</ref> After ''The Return of the King'', it was expected that ''The Hobbit'', along with this film, would proceed "in some short order."<ref>Ian Nathan, ''Anything You Can Imagine: Peter Jackson and the Making of Middle-earth'' (London: HarperCollins, 2019), p. 827.</ref>

While talking about ''The Hobbit'' in September 2006, Jackson said "You could even get into Gollum's sneaking into Mordor and Aragorn protecting The Shire. That's what we'd do. Love to work with Viggo again."<ref>{{Cite web|articleurl=https://legacy.aintitcool.com/node/30085|articlename=Part 5: Quint and Peter Jackson talk THE HOBBIT and a potential return to low budget horror!!!|author=Eric Vespe|dated=16 September 2006|website=Ain't It Cool News}}</ref> Mortensen, hearing this remark in 2012, said it "sounds like a lot of fun."<ref>{{Cite web|articleurl=https://www.theonering.net/torwp/2012/03/13/54232-viggo-mortensens-visit-to-boston-part-2-new-video/|articlename=Viggo Mortensen’s visit to Boston – part 2 (new video!)|author=Greendragon|dated=13 March 2012|website=The One Ring.net}}</ref> When Guillermo del Toro was hired to direct ''The Hobbit'' for Jackson in 2008, they were also working on this "bridge" film as an option for the second film.<ref>{{Cite web|articleurl=https://www.theonering.net/torwp/2008/01/30/28331-torn-exclusive-del-toro-%e2%80%9c99-percent-certain%e2%80%9d-says-nl-insider/|articlename=TORN exclusive: Del Toro “99 percent certain” says NL insider.|author=MrCere|dated=30 January 2008|website=The One Ring.net}}</ref> "We got really excited," said del Toro, "because this second film is not a ‘tag on’, it’s not ‘filler,’ it’s an integral part of telling the story of those 50 years of history lost in the narrative."<ref>{{Cite web|articleurl=https://theplaylist.net/60-year-period-between-hobbi-20080425/|articlename=60-Year Period Between ‘The Hobbit’ & ‘Fellowship’ For Hobbit Sequel Suddenly Gone? Or Not?|author=Rodrigo Perez|dated=25 April 2008|website=The Playlist}}</ref>

Referring specifically to Gollum's part in the events, del Toro said "Gollum has a rather fascinating arch to go through and his alliance to Shelob or his period of imprisonment in Thranduil's." Jackson added that "There's an awful lot of incident that happens during that 60 year gap. At this stage, we're not imagining a film that literally covers 60 years, like a bio-pic or documentary. We would figure out what happens during that 60 years, and choose one short section of time to drop in and dramatise for the screen." Both filmmakers said agreed that "apart from extreme circumstances, we would never recast a character who appeared in the LOTR trilogy."<ref>{{Cite web|articleurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20080730161821/http://www.wetanz.com/holics/index.php?itemid=695&catid=2|articlename=An Unexpected Party Chat|author=Anonymous|dated=30 July 2008|website=Weta Workshop website}}</ref>

By October, however, it seems that they settled on telling ''The Hobbit'' itself in two parts: Jackson said "There was talk about doing ‘The Hobbit’ as one movie and making a ‘Hobbit,’ and ‘Lord of the Rings,’ bridge movie" but when they worked on the treatment in early 2009, they were surprised to realize "how much of the story you would have to lose" to keep ''The Hobbit'' as one film.<ref>{{Cite web|articleurl=https://www.theonering.net/torwp/2009/08/03/32999-peter-jackson-speaks/|articlename=Peter Jackson speaks|author=MrCere|dated=3 August 2009|website=The One Ring.net}}</ref> The "bridge" film remained an option well into 2009,<ref>{{Cite web|articleurl=https://marketsaw.blogspot.com/2009/08/rumor-mill-dark-smaug-on-horizon-plus.html|articlename=Rumor Mill: Dark Smaug On The Horizon Plus Further Word That THE HOBBIT Will Be In 3 Parts -AND- 3D!!|author=Jim Dorey|dated=18 August 2009|website=MarketSaw3D}}</ref> but del Toro was unwilling to commit to helming it, saying it is "not relevant anymore."<ref>{{Cite web|articleurl=http://newboards.theonering.net/forum/gforum/perl/gforum.cgi?post=147373;guest=501771554#147373|articlename="Hola"|author=Guillermo del Toro|dated=8 November 2008|website=The One Ring Discussion Boards}}</ref> Although Jackson reportedly said in August that the third film was off the table,<ref>{{Cite web|articleurl=https://www.theonering.net/torwp/2009/08/14/33139-mtv-pj-not-planning-on-third-bridge-movie/|articlename=MTV: PJ not planning on third ‘Bridge’ movie|author=Calisure|dated=14 August 2009|website=The One Ring.net}}</ref> in 2012 he revealed that "a third movie has always been in discussion.<ref>Costa Botes, "The Clouds Burst", Peter Jackson, ''The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies'' (New Line Cinema: 2015).</ref>

Jackson had considered incorporating elements from this "bridge" film into ''The Hobbit'' proper: The White Council had already been integrated into ''The Hobbit'' itself, but in 2015 Philippa Boyens revaled that they "always wished we could have had Aragorn in these films. Dearly, dearly wanted to...you know, to have Viggo back in these films." Jackson, also in the booth, elaborates: "We did try to figure out a way to get a cameo, even if it was a cameo, for Aragorn and actually for Arwen, too: we tried to have Liv Tyler in the film."<ref name=":0" />

Back in 2009, Viggo Mortensen said that "Obviously, as an actor who originated on film that role, I’d rather finish the job, all things being equal - meaning, is it a good script, and do they have their shit together - than see another actor do it."<ref>{{Cite web|articleurl=https://legacy.aintitcool.com/node/39305|articlename=Capone has a GOOD chat with Viggo Mortensen about politics, THE ROAD, APPALOOSA, and THE HOBBIT!!!|author=Steve Prokopy|dated=11 May 2009|website=Ain't It Cool News}}</ref> Some time after this, he recieved an availability call<ref>{{Cite web|articleurl=https://www.theguardian.com/film/2013/may/28/viggo-mortensen-interview|articlename=Viggo Mortensen interview: 'If I think a film's beyond me – that's a good sign'|author=Imogen Tilden|dated=28 May 2013|website=The Guardian}}</ref> from Jackson: "I said sure, if Aragorn is supposed to be in the bridge story, because he’s not in The Hobbit,” he said.<ref name=":1">{{Cite web|articleurl=https://www.theonering.net/torwp/2013/05/30/72294-viggo-turned-down-role-as-aragorn-not-so-fast/|articlename=Viggo ‘Turned Down’ Role as Aragorn? Not so fast…|author=Newsfrombree|dated=30 May 2013|website=The One Ring.net}}</ref> However, Jackson later revealed that since that call, they "could think of no way of doing it."<ref name=":0" /> Having no further contact, Mortensen concluded in November 2011 that "Aragorn is half elf and also lives a couple hundred years or more and he could be in a bridge, but I have to assume it isn't going to happen."<ref>{{Cite web|articleurl=https://www.reuters.com/article/lifestyle/rings-actor-mortensen-unlikely-to-repeat-role-idUSTRE7AM2U9/|articlename="Rings" actor Mortensen unlikely to repeat role|author=Kurt Orzeck|dated=24 November 2011|website=Reuters}}</ref> He said he would still be open to playing Aragorn "if it seemed sensible to do so."<ref name=":1" />

In the director's commentary to ''[[The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies|The Battle of the Five Armies]]'' in 2015, Boyens and Jackson remained open to the idea of making more films, and mused about what Jackson jokingly calls "A fictitious film 3.5" which Boyens goes on to call "The Hunt for Gollum."<ref name=":0">Peter Jackson, Philippa Boyens, "Director's Commentary," Peter Jackson, ''The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies'' (New Line Cinema: 2015).</ref> Boyens said it could include "a few other things that go on which are really interesting" like Saruman's search for the Ring. She elaborates:<blockquote>Aragorn really is one who tracks Gollum and ends up...and finds him eventually in the Dead Marshes, and he's taken to the Elves. And he's taken to the Elves, and because of the kindness of the Elves - and Legolas is one of his keepers... in Mirkwood, and through their kindness he actually manages to escape. Or has he escaped? Or was he let loose?<ref name=":0" /></blockquote>

===Revival===
Having "really enjoyed working with Kenji Kamiyama, who directed ''War of the Rohirrim,"'' Jackson decided to revive the plans for this film and chose Andy Serkis to direct.<ref>{{Cite web|articleurl=https://deadline.com/2024/05/the-lord-of-the-rings-the-hunt-for-gollum-peter-jackson-andy-serkis-philippa-boyens-explain-23-years-after-cannes-saved-original-trilogy-1235917510/|articlename=Peter Jackson, Andy Serkis & Philippa Boyens Explain Why They’re Returning To Middle-Earth For ‘The Lord Of The Rings: The Hunt For Gollum’ 23 Years After Cannes Saved The Billion-Dollar Franchise|author=Mike Fleming Junior|dated=15 May 2024|website=Deadline Hollywood}}</ref> Serkis remembers being approached around October 2023.<ref>{{Cite web|articleurl=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssUmmuU-Bmk&t=76s|articlename=Andy Serkis Talks Motion Capture, Gollum, and Directing {{!}} Superhero Comic Con San Antonio 2024 Q&A|author=Freeman Coliseum|dated=24 June 2024|website=YouTube}}</ref> By June 2024, they were about to start writing, and by December they had been in the process of writing the story treatment.<ref>{{Cite web|articleurl=https://collider.com/lord-of-the-rings-war-of-the-rohirrim-arty-papageorgiou-phoebe-gittins/|articlename="Who Better for a Gollum Film Than Gollum Himself?": 'War of the Rohirrim' Writers on Working with Andy Serkis in 'The Hunt for Gollum'|author=Therese Lacson|dated=16 December 2024|website=Collider}}</ref> Serkis later estimated they would finish writing by the middle of the year and begin "scouting locations and building [sets]" with shooting due to begin towards the beginning of 2026.<ref>{{Cite web|articleurl=https://www.1news.co.nz/2024/12/15/exclusive-andy-serkis-philippa-boyens-on-the-hunt-for-gollum/|articlename=Exclusive: Andy Serkis, Philippa Boyens on new Lord of the Rings film|author=Abbey Wakefield|dated=15 December 2024|website=1News}}</ref> As a result, the release date for the film was ultimately delayed from 2026 to December 2027.<ref name="TheDirect2027Release">{{webcite|author=Klein Felt|articleurl=https://thedirect.com/article/hunt-for-gollum-movie-lord-of-the-rings-release-official|articlename=Lord of the Rings: Hunt for Gollum Movie Gets Release Window from Andy Serkis|dated=27 Feb 2025|website=[https://thedirect.com The Direct]|accessed=27 Feb 2025}}</ref>

With Serkis due to star as Gollum, approaches had been made to Sir Ian McKellen<ref name=":2">{{Cite web|articleurl=https://deadline.com/2024/09/ian-mckellen-return-gandalf-new-the-lord-of-the-rings-films-1236075547/|articlename=Ian McKellen Reveals He’s Been Approached To Reprise His Role As Gandalf In Andy Serkis’ New ‘The Lord Of The Rings’ Films|author=Jake Kanter|dated=2 September 2024|website=Deadline Hollywood}}</ref> and Viggo Mortensen to reprise Gandalf and Aragorn, respectively. Serkis, Jackson and Boyens had all spoke to Mortensen,<ref name=":3">{{Cite web|articleurl=https://theplaylist.net/the-war-of-the-rohirrim-philippa-boyens-on-the-new-anime-the-hunt-for-gollum-the-future-of-the-lord-of-the-rings-20241223/|articlename=‘The War Of The Rohirrim’: Philippa Boyens On The New Anime, ‘The Hunt For Gollum’ & The Future Of ‘The Lord of the Rings’|author=Rodrigo Perez|dated=23 December 2024|website=The Playlist}}</ref> who had previously said he'd be "open to it" if it makes sense for "the age I am now"<ref>{{Cite web|articleurl=https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/article/viggo-mortensen-interview-2024|articlename=Viggo Mortensen re-used Aragorn's sword in new movie The Dead Don't Hurt “Because it's really good”|author=Rafael Motamayor|dated=28 May 2024|website=GQ}}</ref> but after Boyens pitched it to him as "Digital make-up" they agreed he'd wait to read the script: With the approach to McKellen happening sometime between June<ref>{{Cite web|articleurl=https://www.thetimes.com/culture/film/article/ian-mckellen-if-this-is-my-last-job-id-better-get-it-right-hadnt-i-n3t38g6tb|articlename=Ian McKellen: ‘When a script arrives, I think this might be my last job’|author=Dominic Maxwell|dated=8 June 2024|website=The Times of London}}</ref> and September,<ref name=":2" /> the approach to Mortensen may have taken place in mid-June, just prior to an interview in which Mortensen said "The script is the most important thing to me", no longer harping on the age quota.<ref>{{Cite web|articleurl=https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/viggo-mortensen-lord-of-the-rings-script-feminism-1235935628/|articlename=Viggo Mortensen on Respecting Audiences, How Scripts Are Key “Unless I’m Broke,” New ‘LOTR’ Films|author=Georg Szalai|dated=30 June 2024|website=The Hollywood Reporter}}</ref> While in London for ''The War of the Rohirrim'' premiere, Boyens also "had lunch with an Elf lord" who "would fall into that story."<ref>{{Cite web|articleurl=https://www.instagram.com/nerdoftherings/reel/DDgKw47uxkJ/|articlename="Philippa Boyens teases an “elf lord” returning for Hunt for Gollum! "|author=Matt Graf|dated=12 December 2024|website=Instagram}}</ref>

==Plotline==
The exact events the film covers remain undisclosed. Strictly speaking, Aragorn's hunt for Gollum begins during the events depicted in Jackson's [[The Fellowship of the Ring (2001 film)|''The Fellowship of the Ring'']], and in October, Boyens said the story "falls after the birthday party of Bilbo and before the Mines Of Moria."<ref>{{Cite web|articleurl=https://www.empireonline.com/movies/news/lord-of-the-rings-hunt-for-gollum-wont-be-two-films-second-philippa-boyens-exclusive/|articlename=The Hunt For Gollum Won’t Be Two Films, But A Second LOTR Film Is Incoming, Philippa Boyens Confirms|author=Ben Travis|dated=18 October 2024|website=Empire}}</ref>

However, ''a'' hunt for Gollum is begun by the Silvan Elves after Gollum first leaves the mountains in search of Bilbo, and in December Jackson said the film "tells us what happened to Gollum between ''The Hobbit'' - end of ''The Hobbit'' - and the beginning of ''The Lord of the Rings."''<ref>{{Cite web|articleurl=https://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/red-carpet-premiere-for-the-lord-of-the-rings-the-war-of-the-rohirrim/P3BS7U5NPS5EMFLPUV4SYSYFDU/|articlename=Red carpet premiere for The Lord of the Rings: The War of the Rohirrim|author=Mitchell Hageman|dated=11 December 2024|website=New Zealand Herald}}</ref>

Boyens also alluded to other storylines: ""we are finding a lot of threads of story that are surprising in there when you really go in there and examine it."<ref>{{Cite web|articleurl=https://www.slashfilm.com/1734018/philippa-boyens-lord-of-the-rings-war-of-the-rohirrim-exclusive-interview/|articlename=War Of The Rohirrim's Philippa Boyens Reveals Details About The Lord Of The Rings: The Hunt For Gollum [Exclusive Interview]|author=Ben Pearson|dated=13 December 2024|website=/Film}}</ref> Events as varied as Aragorn's sojourn in Lorien with [[Arwen]], the fall of [[Balin's colony|Balin's Colony]] and much else occur concurrent to the time of the Hunt. "You see the layers and layers of story that’s underneath there and how interconnected they all are," she adds.<ref name=":3" />

She adds that "We get to go to some places that we've never been before" in Middle-earth, and shared that one of the practicalities they were busy figuring out in the writing is "How does he [Aragorn] pick up his scent? How does he find his trail, how does it happen?"<ref>{{Cite web|articleurl=https://nerdist.com/article/nerdist-philippa-boyens-interview-the-war-of-the-rohirrim-the-lord-of-the-rings-future/|articlename=Philippa Boyens Talks the Future of THE LORD OF THE RINGS Movies and Naming a Tolkien Character in THE WAR OF THE ROHIRRIM|author=by Rotem Rusak|dated=19 December 2024|website=Nerdist}}</ref>

==Cast==
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!Actor!!Role
|-
|[[Andy Serkis]]||[[Gollum]]<ref name="Gollum"></ref>
|}

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Pippin's Task

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'''Pippin's Task''' is the twelfth scene of ''[[The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King]]'' and the seventeenth scene of [[The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (extended edition)|''The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King'' (extended edition)]].

=== Synopsis ===
[[Peregrin Took|Pippin]] is tasked by [[Gandalf]] with the lighting of [[Minas Tirith]]'s beacon after [[Denethor]] dismisses Gandalf's advice to do so.
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The Return of the King (scene)

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'''The Return of the King''' is the fifty-ninth scene of ''[[The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King]]'' and the seventy-fourth scene of [[The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (extended edition)|''The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King'' (extended edition)]].
==Synopsis==
[[Category:The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King scenes|74]]

Pippin's Task

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Websites

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This page serves as a guide to many of the useful '''websites''' concerning [[J.R.R. Tolkien]] and his [[Index:Writings by J.R.R. Tolkien|works]]. It is also an archive to many of the websites lost in the past.

==Official associations==
===Tolkien Estate===
*[[Tolkien Estate]] — https://www.tolkienestate.com/
*[[Tolkien Trust]] — https://www.tolkientrust.org/

===Publishers===
*[[HarperCollins]] — https://www.harpercollins.com/blogs/authors/jrr-tolkien
**HarperCollins UK — https://harpercollins.co.uk/blogs/authors/jrr-tolkien
*[[Houghton Mifflin Harcourt]] —
*[[Bodleian Library]] — https://archives.bodleian.ox.ac.uk

===Universities===
*Marquette
*Bodleian
*Oxford

==Related to the legendarium==
===Wikis and references===
*[[Tolkien Gateway]] — https://tolkiengateway.net/
*The Thain's Book — https://thainsbook.minastirith.cz/
*[[Encyclopedia of Arda]] — https://www.glyphweb.com/arda/
*Henneth Annun Research Center — http://henneth-annun.net/
*The Lord of the Rings Wiki — https://lotr.fandom.com/

===Bibliographies===
*[https://www.tolkienbooks.net/ TolkienBooks.net]
*[https://www.tolkienbooks.us/ TolkienBooks.us]
*[[Åke Bertenstam]]'s bibliography https://www.forodrim.org/bibliography/

===Book collecting and trading===
*Tolkien Library https://tolkienlibrary.com/
*Tolkien Collector's Guide https://www.tolkienguide.com/

===Linguistics===
*Amanye Tenceli — https://at.boktypografen.se/
*[[Ardalambion]] — http://ardalambion.net/
*[[Eldamo]] — https://eldamo.org/
*[[Elvish Linguistic Fellowship]] — https://www.elvish.org/
*World Linguistic Association (WELA) — https://www.facebook.com/eldalambe
*Lambendili (Spanish TS) — http://lambendili.sociedadtolkien.org/

==Fan organizations==
===[[Tolkien Societies]]===
*[[The Tolkien Society]] — https://www.tolkiensociety.org/
*[[Spanish Tolkien Society]] — https://www.sociedadtolkien.org/
*[[Mythopoeic Society]] - https://www.mythsoc.org/
**Merged with the [[Tolkien Society of America]] in [[1972]]
*[[Arthedain (Tolkien Society)|Arthedain (Norges Tolkienforeninn)]] - https://www.arthedain.org/

===News?===
*[[TheOneRing.net]] — https://www.theonering.net/

===Fanzines?===

===Adaptations?===

===Other media? - games, [[podcasts]] ...===

==Tools==
===Indexes and references===
*[[Digital Tolkien Project]] — https://digitaltolkien.com/
*Tolkien Art Index — https://tai.tolkienists.org/

==Independent YouTube channels==
*Ælfwine's Road — https://www.youtube.com/@lfwinesroad3399
*[[Council of the Rings]] - https://www.youtube.com/@counciloftherings
*[[Darth Gandalf]] — https://www.youtube.com/@DarthGandalfYT
*GirlNextGondor — https://www.youtube.com/@GirlNextGondor
*[[Jess of the Shire]] — https://www.youtube.com/@Jess_of_the_Shire
*[[Nerd of the Rings]] - https://www.youtube.com/@NerdoftheRings
*The Red Book — https://www.youtube.com/@TheRedBook
*Tales of the Rings — https://www.youtube.com/@TalesoftheRings
*[[Tea with Tolkien]] — https://www.youtube.com/@teawithtolkien
*In Deep Geek — https://www.youtube.com/@InDeepGeek
*The Lord Of Teh Reings — https://www.youtube.com/@TehLurdOfTehReings

[[Category:Websites]]

Websites

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Verbs.

In Quenya, verbs are conjugated in a similar manner to that of English or other languages, with multiple pronouns and tenses.

Verbs are conjugated by adding suffixes to the stem. Here is a chart of suffixes.
{| class="wikitable"
|+
!Tense
!Singular
!Plural
!"I"
|-
|Aorist
|''-ë''
| -r
| -n
|-
|Present
| -a
| -a
|
|-
|Perfect
|''-ië''
|''-ië''
|
|-
|Past
|''-në''
|''-në''
|
|-
|Future
| -uva
| -uva
|
|}
The aorist tense is somewhat irregular in that the suffix ''ë'' changes to ''i'' if any further suffixes are added. There is also the addition of the specific conjugation for "I," as in ''myself.''

The present tense is formed by lengthening the stem's vowel by adding an acute accent (''í, é, á, ó, ú'') and adding suffix -n.

The perfect tense is formed by adding the prefix o- and suffix ''-ië.''

The past tense is formed by "incorporating" the suffix ''-në'' into the word, sometimes placing the n within the stem.

The future tense is formed by adding the suffix -uva.

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TreeBeard2528: Created page with "Verbs. In Quenya, verbs are conjugated in a similar manner to that of English or other languages, with multiple pronouns and tenses. Verbs are conjugated by adding suffixes to the stem. Here is a chart of suffixes. {| class="wikitable" |+ !Tense !Suffix ! ! |- |Aorist | | | |- |Perfect | | | |- |Past | | | |}"