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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The ''Rammas Echor'' was built with a great amount of labour after the province of [[Ithilien]] fell under the shadow of the Enemy<ref name=MT/> during the rule of [[Steward of Gondor|Steward]] [[Denethor (disambiguation)|Denethor]],<ref name=UI>{{HM|UI}}, entry ''Rammas Echor'', "built under Denethor's lordship", p. 512</ref> but it is not specified if it was during the rule of Steward [[Denethor I]] or Steward [[Denethor|Denethor II]].</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The ''Rammas Echor'' was built with a great amount of labour after the province of [[Ithilien]] fell under the shadow of the Enemy<ref name=MT/> during the rule of [[Steward of Gondor|Steward]] [[Denethor (disambiguation)|Denethor]],<ref name=UI>{{HM|UI}}, entry ''Rammas Echor'', "built under Denethor's lordship", p. 512</ref> but it is not specified if it was during the rule of Steward [[Denethor I]] or Steward [[Denethor|Denethor II]].</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>It is possible that it was built during the lordship of Denethor I to protect the Pelennor Fields<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">, because </del>[[Uruks]] from [[Mordor]] appeared during the last years of his rule and attacked Ithilien and conquered Osgiliath in {{TA|2475}} so that the city was finally ruined and abandoned by its population, and its great stone-bridge over the river Anduin was broken <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">and because the </del>borders of Gondor were under constant threat from his rule onwards.<ref>{{App|Stewards}}, entry for Steward Denethor I, p. 1053</ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>It is possible that it was built during the lordship of Denethor I to protect the Pelennor Fields<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">. </ins>[[Uruks]] from [[Mordor]] appeared during the last years of his rule and attacked Ithilien and conquered Osgiliath in {{TA|2475}} so that the city was finally ruined and abandoned by its population, and its great stone-bridge over the river Anduin was broken<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">. The </ins>borders of Gondor were under constant threat from his rule onwards.<ref>{{App|Stewards}}, entry for Steward Denethor I, p. 1053</ref></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>It is also possible<ref>{{HM|RC}}, p. 546</ref> that it was built during the rule of Denethor II. This is less likely, as it already seemed to be partly ruinous and was under repair<ref>{{RK|MT}}, pp. 748-9</ref> on [[9 March]] {{TA|3019}}<ref name=Great>{{App|Great}}, p. 1093</ref> only 35 years after Denethor II became Steward of Gondor in {{TA|2984}}.<ref>{{App|TA}}, entry for the year 2984, p. 1090</ref> Additionally, Minas Tirith was falling more and more into decay and had only half of its original population in that year,<ref>{{RK|MT}}, p. 752</ref> which indicates a shortage of a labour force for the great labour that would be required to construct a thirty-mile long wall. Finally, Gondor had conquered back Osgiliath in the days of the youth of Denethor II to hold it as an outpost and to rebuild the bridge so that its troops could cross over the <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">bridge</del>,<ref>{{RK|MT}}, p. 764</ref> which would have been a risk for the Pelennor Fields if they had not been protected against raids by a wall at that time. [[Ghân-buri-ghân]], the chieftain of the [[Drúedain]] of [[Drúadan Forest]], referred to the Rammas Echor as the "Stone-folk's new walls",<ref name=Ride>{{RK|Ride}}, p. 834</ref> but it is not clear what age he considered "new" to mean and how far back the memory of his people reached.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>It is also possible<ref>{{HM|RC}}, p. 546</ref> that it was built during the rule of Denethor II. This is less likely, as it already seemed to be partly ruinous and was under repair<ref>{{RK|MT}}, pp. 748-9</ref> on [[9 March]] {{TA|3019}}<ref name=Great>{{App|Great}}, p. 1093</ref> only 35 years after Denethor II became Steward of Gondor in {{TA|2984}}.<ref>{{App|TA}}, entry for the year 2984, p. 1090</ref> Additionally, Minas Tirith was falling more and more into decay and had only half of its original population in that year,<ref>{{RK|MT}}, p. 752</ref> which indicates a shortage of a labour force for the great labour that would be required to construct a thirty-mile long wall. Finally, Gondor had conquered back Osgiliath in the days of the youth of Denethor II to hold it as an outpost and to rebuild the bridge so that its troops could cross over the <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">river</ins>,<ref>{{RK|MT}}, p. 764</ref> which would have been a risk for the Pelennor Fields if they had not been protected against raids by a wall at that time. [[Ghân-buri-ghân]], the chieftain of the [[Drúedain]] of [[Drúadan Forest]], referred to the Rammas Echor as the "Stone-folk's new walls",<ref name=Ride>{{RK|Ride}}, p. 834</ref> but it is not clear what age he considered "new" to mean and how far back the memory of his people reached.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Early in the morning on [[11 March]] {{TA|3019}}<ref name=Great/> Steward Denethor II at a meeting of his [[Council of Gondor|Council]] decided that the Rammas Echor and Osgiliath should be manned and defended against the enemy. His younger son [[Faramir]] volunteered to command the forces that defended Osgiliath and the Rammas Echor, knowing that they could cause the enemy to loose ten times their own losses during the attempt to cross the river Anduin, but that the long retreat of his forces from far out there would be dangerous if the enemy managed to cross the river.<ref name=Siege>{{RK|Siege}}, p. 817</ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Early in the morning on [[11 March]] {{TA|3019}}<ref name=Great/> Steward Denethor II at a meeting of his [[Council of Gondor|Council]] decided that the Rammas Echor and Osgiliath should be manned and defended against the enemy. His younger son [[Faramir]] volunteered to command the forces that defended Osgiliath and the Rammas Echor, knowing that they could cause the enemy to loose ten times their own losses during the attempt to cross the river Anduin, but that the long retreat of his forces from far out there would be dangerous if the enemy managed to cross the river.<ref name=Siege>{{RK|Siege}}, p. 817</ref></div></td></tr>
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