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It can be analyzed as ''[[ed]]'' + ''[[sîr]]'' (''s'' reduced to ''h'' because of [[lenition]]).  
It can be analyzed as ''[[ed]]'' + ''[[sîr]]'' (''s'' reduced to ''h'' because of [[lenition]]).  
==Pronunciation==
==Pronunciation==
There is some controversy on the pronunciation of the word regarding the digraph ''th''<ref>[[Jim Allan]] (ed.) ''[[An Introduction to Elvish]]'', Proto-Eldarin vowels by [[Chris Gilson]]</ref>.
There is some controversy on the pronunciation of the word regarding the digraph ''th''<ref>[[Jim Allan]] (ed.) ''[[An Introduction to Elvish]]'', "Proto-Eldarin vowels" by [[Christopher Gilson]]</ref>.


One view says that it can be viewed as a compound: ''ed/et'' + ''sîr'' would trigger a lenition ''ed/et'' + ''hîr''. If preposition and stem are understood as different entities, t/h should be pronounced separately ({{IPA|[ˈethir]}}) (like English "a''t-h''ome").
One view says that it can be viewed as a compound: ''ed/et'' + ''sîr'' would trigger a lenition ''ed/et'' + ''hîr''. If preposition and stem are understood as different entities, t/h should be pronounced separately ({{IPA|[ˈethir]}}) (like English "a''t-h''ome").


An other view would be that PQ ''etsiri'' evolved as [[Old Sindarin]] *''ett<sup>h</sup>ire''<ref>[[Dider Willis]]' ''Sindarin Dictionary'' version of 2001; containing etymological reconstructions by [[David Salo]]</ref> before simplified as ''ethir''. In that case the PQ cluster ''ts'' was directly derived as ''th'' in Sindarin. The word would be pronounced as {{IPA|[ˈeθir]}}
Another view would be that PQ ''etsiri'' evolved as [[Old Sindarin]] *''ett<sup>h</sup>ire''<ref>[[Didier Willis]]' ''Sindarin Dictionary'' version of 2001; containing etymological reconstructions by [[David Salo]]</ref> before simplified as ''ethir''. In that case the PQ cluster ''ts'' was directly derived as ''th'' in Sindarin. The word would be pronounced as {{IPA|[ˈeθir]}}.


=Ethir.2=
=Ethir.2=

Revision as of 09:37, 7 June 2011

ethir is the form of two unrelated Sindarin words (homophones) with different meanings:

Ethir.1

"mouth of a river, estuary"

Etymology

It is derived from Primitive Quendian etsiri[1]

It can be analyzed as ed + sîr (s reduced to h because of lenition).

Pronunciation

There is some controversy on the pronunciation of the word regarding the digraph th[2].

One view says that it can be viewed as a compound: ed/et + sîr would trigger a lenition ed/et + hîr. If preposition and stem are understood as different entities, t/h should be pronounced separately ([ˈethir]) (like English "at-home").

Another view would be that PQ etsiri evolved as Old Sindarin *etthire[3] before simplified as ethir. In that case the PQ cluster ts was directly derived as th in Sindarin. The word would be pronounced as [ˈeθir].

Ethir.2

"spy"

Etymology

Derived from ed + tirn. Examples include Amon Ethir.

References

  1. J.R.R. Tolkien, Christopher Tolkien (ed.), The Lost Road and Other Writings, Part Three: "The Etymologies", entry ET
  2. Jim Allan (ed.) An Introduction to Elvish, "Proto-Eldarin vowels" by Christopher Gilson
  3. Didier Willis' Sindarin Dictionary version of 2001; containing etymological reconstructions by David Salo