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'''Forthwini''' was the second [[Lord of the Éothéod]] while they lived in the [[Vales of Anduin]]. He was the son of [[Marhwini]].<ref name="Cirion">{{UT| | '''Forthwini''' was the second [[Lord of the Éothéod]] while they lived in the [[Vales of Anduin]]. He was the son of [[Marhwini]].<ref name="Cirion">{{UT|Northmen}}</ref> | ||
==History== | ==History== | ||
During Forthwini's rule his spies learned that the [[Wainriders]], a tribe of [[Easterlings]] who had invaded decades earlier, had recovered and were allying themselves with other forces in the [[East]]. He alerted King [[Ondoher]] of [[Gondor]] of the growing threat, and later the [[Éothéod]] joined the armies of Gondor in battle against the invaders. | During Forthwini's rule his spies learned that the [[Wainriders]], a tribe of [[Easterlings]] who had invaded decades earlier, had recovered and were allying themselves with other forces in the [[East]]. He alerted King [[Ondoher]] of [[Gondor]] of the growing threat, and later the [[Éothéod]] joined the armies of Gondor in battle against the invaders. Though Ondoher and both his sons were slain, his successor [[Eärnil II]] eventually destroyed the Wainriders in {{TA|1944}}.<ref name="Cirion"/><ref>{{App|Gondor}}, entry for king Ondoher</ref><ref>{{App|TA}}, entry for the year 1944 of the Third Age</ref> There is no record of Forthwini's fate. | ||
==Legacy== | |||
The [[Leader of the Éothéod|leader of the Éothéod]] whose name stared with ''Marh'', who rode to battle in the campaign against the Wainriders, may have been Forthwini's successor<ref>{{webcite|author=Michael Martinez|articleurl=https://middle-earth.xenite.org/how-many-lords-of-eotheod-were-there/|articlename=How Many Lords of Éothéod Were There?|dated=10 October 2013|website=middle-earth.xenite.org|accessed=20 February 2022}}</ref> and/or son, but this is not stated.<ref> {{UT|Northmen}}, eighteenth paragraph</ref> The next definitively known chieftain of the Éothéod is [[Frumgar]], who was chieftain<ref>{{App|Eorl}}, p. 1064</ref> in {{TA|1977}}.<ref>{{App|TA}}, entry for the year 1977</ref> The specific relationship between Forthwini and Frumgar is unknown. | |||
==Etymology== | ==Etymology== | ||
[[Christopher Tolkien]] suggests that the name ''Forthwini'' is [[Gothic]] in form and that the second element ''wini'' ("friend") is an archaic form of [[Old English]] ''wine'' seen in the [[Rohanese]] names of several Kings of Rohan ( [[Fréawine]], [[Goldwine]] and [[Folcwine]]).<ref>{{UT|8e}}, Note 6</ref> | |||
[[David Salo]] and [[Arden R. Smith]] suggest that the name is early [[Old English]] in form.<ref>[[David Salo]], Re: Digest: Radagast etc., e-mail to the Tolkien Language List (19.22), 10 July 1996, http://tolklang.quettar.org/messages/Vol19/19.22; Re: Digest: More Radagast etc., e-mail to the Tolkien Language List (19.36), 16 July 1996, http://tolklang.quettar.org/messages/Vol19/19.36; and Re: Gothic/Old English and pseudo-Latinized forms of same, e-mail to the Tolkien Language List (19.46), 18 July 1996, http://tolklang.quettar.org/messages/Vol19/19.46</ref><ref>[[Arden R. Smith]], Tolkienian Gothic, in [[Wayne G. Hammond]] & [[Christina Scull]], [[The Lord of the Rings 1954-2004]]: Scholarship in Honor of Richard E. Blackwelder, p. 269</ref> | |||
It is also possible that it is a hybrid [[Old English]] and Old High German (OHG) name. The first element is Old English (Anglo-Saxon [AS]) ''forth''<ref>{{webcite|author=Friedrich Kluge|articleurl=https://archive.org/details/etymologicaldict00kluguoft/page/94/mode/2up?q=forth|articlename=Etymological Dictionary of the German language, entry fort, p. 95|website=archive.org|accessed=16 January 2023}}</ref> and the second element is Old High German (OHG) ''wini'' ("friend"), which corresponds to Anglo-Saxon (AS) ''wine''.<ref>{{webcite|author=Friedrich Kluge|articleurl=https://archive.org/details/etymologicaldict00kluguoft/page/118/mode/2up?q=wini|articlename=Etymological Dictionary of the German language, entry gewinnen, p. 118|website=archive.org|accessed=16 January 2023}}</ref> | |||
David Salo suggests that it means "friend of the front" or "friend, who is at the front", so a companion-in-arms who is at the front line of the tribal army. [[Tom Shippey]] suggests that it is Old Mercian English and means "forefriend". Since forth correspons to ''faran'' ("go", "go away") it could mean "travel friend".<ref>Didier Salamon & David Giraudeau, Le Livre de la Marche, 2006, p. 159</ref> | |||
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Forthwini | |
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Northman | |
Biographical Information | |
Titles | Lord of the Éothéod |
Location | Rhovanion |
Language | language of the Éothéod |
Family | |
Parentage | Marhwini |
Physical Description | |
Gender | Male |
Forthwini was the second Lord of the Éothéod while they lived in the Vales of Anduin. He was the son of Marhwini.[1]
History[edit | edit source]
During Forthwini's rule his spies learned that the Wainriders, a tribe of Easterlings who had invaded decades earlier, had recovered and were allying themselves with other forces in the East. He alerted King Ondoher of Gondor of the growing threat, and later the Éothéod joined the armies of Gondor in battle against the invaders. Though Ondoher and both his sons were slain, his successor Eärnil II eventually destroyed the Wainriders in T.A. 1944.[1][2][3] There is no record of Forthwini's fate.
Legacy[edit | edit source]
The leader of the Éothéod whose name stared with Marh, who rode to battle in the campaign against the Wainriders, may have been Forthwini's successor[4] and/or son, but this is not stated.[5] The next definitively known chieftain of the Éothéod is Frumgar, who was chieftain[6] in T.A. 1977.[7] The specific relationship between Forthwini and Frumgar is unknown.
Etymology[edit | edit source]
Christopher Tolkien suggests that the name Forthwini is Gothic in form and that the second element wini ("friend") is an archaic form of Old English wine seen in the Rohanese names of several Kings of Rohan ( Fréawine, Goldwine and Folcwine).[8]
David Salo and Arden R. Smith suggest that the name is early Old English in form.[9][10]
It is also possible that it is a hybrid Old English and Old High German (OHG) name. The first element is Old English (Anglo-Saxon [AS]) forth[11] and the second element is Old High German (OHG) wini ("friend"), which corresponds to Anglo-Saxon (AS) wine.[12]
David Salo suggests that it means "friend of the front" or "friend, who is at the front", so a companion-in-arms who is at the front line of the tribal army. Tom Shippey suggests that it is Old Mercian English and means "forefriend". Since forth correspons to faran ("go", "go away") it could mean "travel friend".[13]
Genealogy[edit | edit source]
Marhari d. 1856† | |||||||
Marhwini fl. 1856 - 1899 | |||||||
FORTHWINI fl. 1944 | |||||||
Frumgar fl. 1977 | |||||||
Fram fl. c. T.A. 2000 | |||||||
References
- ↑ 1.0 1.1 J.R.R. Tolkien, Christopher Tolkien (ed.), Unfinished Tales, "Cirion and Eorl and the Friendship of Gondor and Rohan", "(i) The Northmen and the Wainriders"
- ↑ J.R.R. Tolkien, The Lord of the Rings, Appendix A, "The Númenorean Kings", "Gondor and the Heirs of Anárion", entry for king Ondoher
- ↑ J.R.R. Tolkien, The Lord of the Rings, Appendix B, "The Third Age", entry for the year 1944 of the Third Age
- ↑ Michael Martinez, "How Many Lords of Éothéod Were There?" dated 10 October 2013, middle-earth.xenite.org (accessed 20 February 2022)
- ↑ J.R.R. Tolkien, Christopher Tolkien (ed.), Unfinished Tales, "Cirion and Eorl and the Friendship of Gondor and Rohan", "(i) The Northmen and the Wainriders", eighteenth paragraph
- ↑ J.R.R. Tolkien, The Lord of the Rings, Appendix A, "The House of Eorl", p. 1064
- ↑ J.R.R. Tolkien, The Lord of the Rings, Appendix B, "The Third Age", entry for the year 1977
- ↑ J.R.R. Tolkien, Christopher Tolkien (ed.), Unfinished Tales, "Cirion and Eorl and the Friendship of Gondor and Rohan", "Notes", Note 6
- ↑ David Salo, Re: Digest: Radagast etc., e-mail to the Tolkien Language List (19.22), 10 July 1996, http://tolklang.quettar.org/messages/Vol19/19.22; Re: Digest: More Radagast etc., e-mail to the Tolkien Language List (19.36), 16 July 1996, http://tolklang.quettar.org/messages/Vol19/19.36; and Re: Gothic/Old English and pseudo-Latinized forms of same, e-mail to the Tolkien Language List (19.46), 18 July 1996, http://tolklang.quettar.org/messages/Vol19/19.46
- ↑ Arden R. Smith, Tolkienian Gothic, in Wayne G. Hammond & Christina Scull, The Lord of the Rings 1954-2004: Scholarship in Honor of Richard E. Blackwelder, p. 269
- ↑ Friedrich Kluge, "Etymological Dictionary of the German language, entry fort, p. 95", archive.org (accessed 16 January 2023)
- ↑ Friedrich Kluge, "Etymological Dictionary of the German language, entry gewinnen, p. 118", archive.org (accessed 16 January 2023)
- ↑ Didier Salamon & David Giraudeau, Le Livre de la Marche, 2006, p. 159
Forthwini
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Preceded by: Marhwini | 2nd Lord of the Éothéod | Unknown Eventually Frumgar |