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The '''Language of Dale''' was the tongue spoken by the [[Men of Dale|Men of]] [[Dale]]. It was from this tongue that came the names of the [[Durin's Folk|Dwarves of Durin's Folk]].<ref name=L144>{{L|144}}</ref><ref name=AppF2>{{App|F2}}</ref>
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The '''language of Dale''' was the tongue spoken by the [[Men of Dale|Men of]] [[Dale]] and as a [[Northern Mannish|Northern language]], it was related to [[Rohanese]] and, more distantly, to [[Westron]].  
 
==History==
The language, as well as the personal names of the Men of Dale closely resembled those of the Men in the [[Vale of Anduin]] and those of the [[Rohirrim]]; even those of some [[Hobbits]] who used high-sounding names and words from the Mannish language of the upper Anduin.<ref name=AppF2/><ref group=note>The relationship of the languages can be seen in the D. name [[Brand]] along with the H. name [[Ferdibrand Took|Ferdibrand]] and the R. name [[Erkenbrand]].</ref>
 
The language of Dale was adopted by the [[Dwarves]] from that region, such as the [[Dwarves of Erebor]]. In fact they used this tongue to introduce themselves to outsiders, forming their "outer" names, as it was a taboo to use their true, original [[Khuzdul]] names to other [[races]].<ref name=L144>{{L|144}}</ref><ref name=AppF2>{{App|F2}}</ref>


The writing system used by the Men of Dale was an old and simple form of the [[Cirth]].<ref>{{App|E2}}</ref>
The writing system used by the Men of Dale was an old and simple form of the [[Cirth]].<ref>{{App|E2}}</ref>


It also told that it was a tradition in some Hobbit families (in particular those with ties to the [[Fallohides|Fallohide]] clan) to give first-names resembling the names of the Men of Dale (and other places near the ancient dwelling-places of the Hobbits, like [[Riddermark|the Mark]] and the [[Vales of Anduin|Vale of Anduin]]).<ref name=AppF2/>
==Translation==
In [[J.R.R. Tolkien|Tolkien]]'s stories, the language of Dale was rendered with [[North Germanic languages|Old Norse]], a language related to [[Old English]] and modern English as the tongue of Dale was related to [[Rohanese]] and [[Westron]].<ref name=AppF2/><ref name=L144/>
 
==Name==
A suggested name for the language of Dale is '''Dalian'''.<ref>[[Andreas Möhn|Andreas Moehn]], "[http://lalaith.vpsurf.de/Tolkien/Fr_Atani.html Etymologies of the Atani Languages]" (accessed 26 March 2011)</ref> Another "invented" name commonly used by [[Fandom|fans]] is '''Dalish'''.<ref>"[https://tolkienlistsearch.herokuapp.com/message/5e9c35f9231bf7461a6c91af Breelendish, a Welsh-style Conlang]" (message 33106; 12 March, 2006) at [[Elfling]] mailing list (accessed 27 March 2011)</ref><ref>"[https://tolkienlistsearch.herokuapp.com/message/5e9c35b83ee6a6c41e986689 Scandinavians in Middle-earth?]" (message 1075; 15 July 1999) at [[Elfling]] mailing list (accessed 27 March 2011)</ref>


In the [[J.R.R. Tolkien|Tolkien]]'s stories, the language of Dale was translated into [[North Germanic languages|Old Norse]], a language related to [[Old English]] and modern English as the tongue of Dale was related to [[Rohirric]] and [[Westron]].<ref name=AppF2/><ref name=L144/>
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A suggested name for the language of Dale is '''Dalian'''.<ref>[[Andreas Moehn]], "[http://lalaith.vpsurf.de/Tolkien/Fr_Atani.html Etymologies of the Atani Languages]" (accessed 26 March 2011)</ref> Another "invented" name commonly used by [[Fandom|fans]] is '''Dalish'''.<ref>"[http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elfling/message/33106 Breelendish, a Welsh-style Conlang]" (message 33106; 12 March, 2006) at [[Elfling]] mailing list (accessed 27 March 2011)</ref><ref>"[http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elfling/message/1075 Scandinavians in Middle-earth?]" (message 1075; 15 July 1999) at [[Elfling]] mailing list (accessed 27 March 2011)</ref>
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Latest revision as of 12:10, 13 February 2023

This article describes a concept which is mentioned in J.R.R. Tolkien's works, but was never given a definite name.


The language of Dale was the tongue spoken by the Men of Dale and as a Northern language, it was related to Rohanese and, more distantly, to Westron.

History[edit | edit source]

The language, as well as the personal names of the Men of Dale closely resembled those of the Men in the Vale of Anduin and those of the Rohirrim; even those of some Hobbits who used high-sounding names and words from the Mannish language of the upper Anduin.[1][note 1]

The language of Dale was adopted by the Dwarves from that region, such as the Dwarves of Erebor. In fact they used this tongue to introduce themselves to outsiders, forming their "outer" names, as it was a taboo to use their true, original Khuzdul names to other races.[2][1]

The writing system used by the Men of Dale was an old and simple form of the Cirth.[3]

Translation[edit | edit source]

In Tolkien's stories, the language of Dale was rendered with Old Norse, a language related to Old English and modern English as the tongue of Dale was related to Rohanese and Westron.[1][2]

Name[edit | edit source]

A suggested name for the language of Dale is Dalian.[4] Another "invented" name commonly used by fans is Dalish.[5][6]

Notes

  1. The relationship of the languages can be seen in the D. name Brand along with the H. name Ferdibrand and the R. name Erkenbrand.

References

  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 J.R.R. Tolkien, The Lord of the Rings, Appendix F, "On Translation"
  2. 2.0 2.1 J.R.R. Tolkien; Humphrey Carpenter, Christopher Tolkien (eds.), The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien, Letter 144, (dated 25 April 1954)
  3. J.R.R. Tolkien, The Lord of the Rings, Appendix E, "Writing"
  4. Andreas Moehn, "Etymologies of the Atani Languages" (accessed 26 March 2011)
  5. "Breelendish, a Welsh-style Conlang" (message 33106; 12 March, 2006) at Elfling mailing list (accessed 27 March 2011)
  6. "Scandinavians in Middle-earth?" (message 1075; 15 July 1999) at Elfling mailing list (accessed 27 March 2011)
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