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'''Lithlad''' was a plain in [[Mordor]].<ref name=Lithlad>{{TT|Gate}}, second paragraph</ref>
'''Lithlad''' was a plain in [[Mordor]].<ref name=Lithlad>{{TT|Gate}}, second paragraph</ref>


The mountain range of the [[Ephel Duath]] and the mountain range of the [[Ered Lithui]] formed a great wall around the plains of ''Lithlad'' and of [[Plateau of Gorgoroth|Gorgoroth]], and the inland sea of [[Nurnen]] in the middle.<ref name=Lithlad/>  
The mountain range of the [[Ephel Duath]] and the mountain range of the [[Ered Lithui]] formed a great wall around the mournful plains of ''Lithlad'' and of [[Plateau of Gorgoroth|Gorgoroth]], and the inland sea of [[Nurnen]] in the middle.<ref name=Lithlad/>  


==Etymology==
==Etymology==
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== Other versions of the legendarium ==
== Other versions of the legendarium ==
The plain of ''Lithlad'' does not appear on any of the maps that were published with ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]'' and the text does not say anything about the plain of ''Lithlad'' or about its location
In draft 'A' of the chapter [[The Tower of Cirith Ungol]] it is mentioned that the eastern face of the tower stood up from a shelf in the mountain wall with four pointed bastions with sides facing north-east and north-west and that the windows of the tower stared over the plains of ''Gorgoroth'' and ''Lithlad''.<ref>{{SD|Kirith}}, p. 20</ref>
In draft 'A' of the chapter [[The Tower of Cirith Ungol]] it is mentioned that the eastern face of the tower stood up from a shelf in the mountain wall with four pointed bastions with sides facing north-east and north-west and that the windows of the tower stared over the plains of ''Gorgoroth'' and ''Lithlad''.<ref>{{SD|Kirith}}, p. 20</ref>


The plain of ''Lithlad'' appears on [[The First Map of The Lord of the Rings]] on the map square P18 just to the south of the ''Ered Lithui'', which are located in the north of this map square, and east of map square P16 where [[Barad-dûr]] is located.<ref name=FirstMap/> It appears on [[The Second Map of The Lord of the Rings]] on the map squares Q17 and Q18, south of map squares P17 and P18, where the ''Ered Lithui'' are located and east of map square Q16 where ''Barad-dûr'' is located.<ref name=SecondMap/> The longer mountain spur that branches off from the ''Ered Lithui'' to the east of ''Barad-dûr'' and that is longer than the mountain spur on whose end Barad-dûr is located, does not exist on those maps. The plain of ''Lithlad'' does not appear on [[The Third Map of The Lord of the Rings]]. If ''Lithlad'' would be placed on ''The Third Map of the Lord of the Rings'' in the same position as on the second map, it would be to the east of the longer mountain spur that branches off from the ''Ered Lithui''.
The plain of ''Lithlad'' appears on the [[The First Map of The Lord of the Rings|First Map of The Lord of the Rings]] south of the ''Ered Lithui'' and east of [[Barad-dûr]]. The longer mountain spur that branches off from the ''Ered Lithui'' to the east of ''Barad-dûr'' and that is longer than the short mountain spur on whose end Barad-dûr is located, does not exist on the first map.<ref name=FirstMapWeb/><ref name=FirstMap/> It appears on the [[The Second Map of The Lord of the Rings|Second Map of The Lord of the Rings]] approximately in the same location south of the ''Ered Lithui'' and east of ''Barad-dûr'' and the longer mountain spur.<ref name=SecondMap/> The plain of ''Lithlad'' does not appear on the [[The Third Map of The Lord of the Rings|Third Map of The Lord of the Rings]] that was drawn by [[J.R.R. Tolkien]].<ref>{{webcite|author=J.R.R. Tolkien|articleurl=https://www.tolkienestate.com/assets/images/megamaps/lord-of-the-rings-optimized.jpg|articlename=Maps: MIDDLE-EARTH|dated=|website=|accessed=11 January 2022}}</ref>. It also does not appear on the [[General Map of Middle-earth]] and on [[The West of Middle-earth at the End of the Third Age]] map that were drawn by [[Christopher Tolkien]] and published with [[The Lord of the Rings]] or [[Unfinished Tales of Númenor and Middle-earth]].


Based on its position in ''The First Map of The Lord of the Rings'', Mark Fisher places ''Lithlad'' between the mountain spur on whose end ''Barad-dûr'' is located and the longer mountain spur that branches off from the ''Ered Lithui'' to the east of ''Barad-dûr''.<ref>{{webcite|author=Mark Fisher|articleurl=https://www.glyphweb.com/arda/l/lithlad.php|articlename=Lithlad|website=The Encyclopedia of Arda|accessed=25 December 2021}}</ref>
Based on its position in , Mark Fisher places ''Lithlad'' between the mountain spur on whose end ''Barad-dûr'' is located and the longer mountain spur that branches off from the ''Ered Lithui'' to the east of ''Barad-dûr'' and incorrectly claims that this position is based on ''The First Map of The Lord of the Rings''.<ref>{{webcite|author=Mark Fisher|articleurl=https://www.glyphweb.com/arda/l/lithlad.php|articlename=Lithlad|website=The Encyclopedia of Arda|accessed=25 December 2021}}</ref>


Although Karen Wynn Fonstad was aware of the location of ''Lithlad'' on ''The First Map of The Lord of the Rings'', she places ''Lithlad" on the north-western shore of the [[Sea of Núrnen]] in [[Nurn]].<ref name="Fonstad">[[Karen Wynn Fonstad]] ''[[The Atlas of Middle-earth]]'', p. 91 with note 31 p. 93</ref>
Although Karen Wynn Fonstad was aware of the location of ''Lithlad'' on ''The First Map of The Lord of the Rings'', she places ''Lithlad" on the north-western shore of the [[Sea of Núrnen]] in [[Nurn]].<ref name="Fonstad">[[Karen Wynn Fonstad]] ''[[The Atlas of Middle-earth]]'', p. 91 with note 31 p. 93</ref>

Revision as of 16:07, 11 January 2022

Lithlad
Plain
General Information
LocationSouth of the Ered Lithui, east of the Plateau of Gorgoroth[1][2][3]
TypePlain
DescriptionPlain

Lithlad was a plain in Mordor.[4]

The mountain range of the Ephel Duath and the mountain range of the Ered Lithui formed a great wall around the mournful plains of Lithlad and of Gorgoroth, and the inland sea of Nurnen in the middle.[4]

Etymology

Lithlad is Sindarin for "Plain of Ashes".[5]

Other versions of the legendarium

In draft 'A' of the chapter The Tower of Cirith Ungol it is mentioned that the eastern face of the tower stood up from a shelf in the mountain wall with four pointed bastions with sides facing north-east and north-west and that the windows of the tower stared over the plains of Gorgoroth and Lithlad.[6]

The plain of Lithlad appears on the First Map of The Lord of the Rings south of the Ered Lithui and east of Barad-dûr. The longer mountain spur that branches off from the Ered Lithui to the east of Barad-dûr and that is longer than the short mountain spur on whose end Barad-dûr is located, does not exist on the first map.[1][2] It appears on the Second Map of The Lord of the Rings approximately in the same location south of the Ered Lithui and east of Barad-dûr and the longer mountain spur.[3] The plain of Lithlad does not appear on the Third Map of The Lord of the Rings that was drawn by J.R.R. Tolkien.[7]. It also does not appear on the General Map of Middle-earth and on The West of Middle-earth at the End of the Third Age map that were drawn by Christopher Tolkien and published with The Lord of the Rings or Unfinished Tales of Númenor and Middle-earth.

Based on its position in , Mark Fisher places Lithlad between the mountain spur on whose end Barad-dûr is located and the longer mountain spur that branches off from the Ered Lithui to the east of Barad-dûr and incorrectly claims that this position is based on The First Map of The Lord of the Rings.[8]

Although Karen Wynn Fonstad was aware of the location of Lithlad on The First Map of The Lord of the Rings, she places Lithlad" on the north-western shore of the Sea of Núrnen in Nurn.[9]

Robert Foster places Lithlad either in the southwest or the east of Mordor.[10]

References

  1. 1.0 1.1 J.R.R. Tolkien, "First Map of The Lord of the Rings", (accessed 11 January 2022)
  2. 2.0 2.1 J.R.R. Tolkien, Christopher Tolkien (ed.), The Treason of Isengard, "XV. The First Map of The Lord of the Rings", "Maps IIIA and III", map square P18, p. 309
  3. 3.0 3.1 J.R.R. Tolkien, Christopher Tolkien (ed.), The War of the Ring, "Part Three: Minas Tirith", "XIV. The Second Map", The Second Map (East), map squares Q17 and Q18 p. 435
  4. 4.0 4.1 J.R.R. Tolkien, The Lord of the Rings, The Two Towers, "The Black Gate is Closed", second paragraph
  5. Wayne G. Hammond and Christina Scull (eds), The Lord of the Rings: A Reader's Companion, p. 457
  6. J.R.R. Tolkien, Christopher Tolkien (ed.), Sauron Defeated, "Part One: The End of the Third Age: II. The Tower of Kirith Ungol", p. 20
  7. J.R.R. Tolkien, "Maps: MIDDLE-EARTH", (accessed 11 January 2022)
  8. Mark Fisher, "Lithlad", The Encyclopedia of Arda (accessed 25 December 2021)
  9. Karen Wynn Fonstad The Atlas of Middle-earth, p. 91 with note 31 p. 93
  10. Robert Foster, The Complete Guide to Middle-earth, entry "LITHLAD"