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I've been a fan of the world of Middle-earth ever since I first read ''[[The Hobbit]]'' when I was seven years old. I've been reading ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]'' ever summer since high school. Although I enjoyed the books I didn't really study them very closely until Peter Jackson's movies came out. It was about the time that I first read ''[[The Silmarillion]]''.<br />
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I'm also a huge video gamer. I've always been a fan of puzzles and trying to solve problems. I didn't really get into gaming until Zelda for the NES came out. I use to compete against other players for fun and in competitions with prize monies involved. Yet, after college, I haven't had the time to game regularly enough to be competitive and now I just do it for the joy of it. <br />
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I have played some Lord of the Rings video game titles, but not many of them impressed me much at all. The one exception is ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online]]''. I played it about six weeks after it was released and haven't stopped since. Through my love of the video game I picked up ''[[The History of Middle-earth]]'' volumes.<br />
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My interest in Tolkien Gateway is to talk about how [[The Lord of the Rings Online]] relates to the lore of Middle-earth. <br />
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==Personal To-Do List==<br />
* <strike>Create an article for each of the ''[[The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien]]'' (see below).</strike><br />
* Clean up ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online]]'' articles<br />
** Clean up the main article using what [[User:Amroth/LOTRO|User:Amroth]] started.<br />
** <strike>Make articles for each of the expansions and updates for the game.</strike><br />
** Write up the epic story line of the game with each chapter/book being placed in the expansion or patch/update it became available in. The only exception is the race introduction and prologue quests. <br />
** Create a navigational template for each of the epic stories by their quest chain. <br />
* Work on the article in my [[User:Pinkkatie/sandbox|sandbox]]. (Started back in April 2009!)<br />
* <strike>Actually attend one of the [[Tolkien Gateway:Meetings|Tolkien Gateway meetings]].</strike> <small>''I never attended and they are no longer held.''</small><br />
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==Links==<br />
* My [[User:Pinkkatie/sandbox|sandbox]] - the place where I write up articles and stuff and have some fun!<br />
* [[User:Pinkkatie/Pinkfae|Pinkfae]] - My character from ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online]]''.</div>Pinkkatiehttps://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:LorenzoCB&diff=359006User talk:LorenzoCB2022-10-09T15:34:57Z<p>Pinkkatie: /* Gil-galad and TG:CANON */</p>
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-- [[User:Mith|<span style="color:#2F4F4F">'''Mith'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Mith|<span style="color:#696969">'''Talk'''</span>]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mith|<span style="color:#708090">Contribs</span>]]/[[Special:Editcount/Mith/Edits|<span style="color:#778899">Edits</span>]])</small> 18:43, 9 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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==Hello!==<br />
Thanks for your recent contributions, LorenzoCB! When you write at talk pages, please make sure to sign your posts with <nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki>, which will automatically show a link to your user name and date/time when writing the post.<br />
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--[[User:Morgan|Morgan]] 22:15, 3 May 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== Middle-earτh Shadow of War ==<br />
Hello. Can you upload at least one image related to the videogame [[Middle-earth: Shadow of War|Middle-earth Shadow of War]]?I don't have the ability to upload images on Tolkien Gateway but you do have this ability.<br />
:Hi! I recommend you to make your own account, then you can write all the article about Middle-earth: Shadow of War, as it is almost empty and you seem to be very interested on it. When you get 50 editions you'll be able to upload images. Now please, stop spamming about that. I won't do it, I personally don't like those games.--[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 14:40, 11 June 2019 (UTC)<br />
Hello. I would like to upload an image on page [[Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor]] but I can't upload images on Tolkien Gateway. Can you upload this image that I have uploaded on the specific page.<br />
:There you have it :) You need 50 edits to upload images, btw. Hope you can get them improving the game articles. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 22:11, 20 August 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== Dagor Dagorath ==<br />
Hi LorenzoCB, great job on your rewriting of the [[Dagor Dagorath]] article! Also, thank you for the kind corrections of my woeful ignorance of early names for characters in the Legendarium. Oops. :) --{{User:Holdwine Meriadoc/sig}} 18:26, 26 August 2019 (UTC)<br />
:It was just a detail. Thank you for correcting my English, I couldn't imagine I made so many grammatical mistakes! --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 23:03, 26 August 2019 (UTC)<br />
::Your English is a lot better than my Spanish :) And I'm just picky when it comes to grammar! --{{User:Holdwine Meriadoc/sig}}<br />
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== Help ==<br />
Can you help me fix what I have done on page Isildur because I don't know what to do.<br />
:I didn't see many problems. I fixed the style. Btw, I added the cover of Shadows of War. Last time I confused the games and uploaded the one for Shadows of Mordor :P Remember to sign when you write in a talkpage. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 17:09, 28 August 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== Image categories ==<br />
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Hi there. I don't know if you've noticed but there has been a convention (which isn't fully realised but increasingly I have slowly implemented) that for image categories the order has been 1) Artist 2) Where it's from 3) what/who it is depicting and these should be listed in alphabetical order (see [[:File:Alan Lee - The Elvenking's Gate.jpg]] as an example). If you could keep this in mind when changing or adding categories that would be appreciated. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 07:36, 5 September 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Hi! Thanks for explaining that. I was trying to include the categories in alphabetical order, as I didn't relize there was a formal style for that. I'll do as you say. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 11:53, 5 September 2019 (UTC)<br />
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:Sure, although [[:File:Mysilvergreen - In a dungeon.jpg|this one]] and [[:File:Ted Nasmith - Tuor and Voronwë See Túrin at the Pool of Ivrin.jpg|this one]] weren't in alphabetical order. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 12:03, 5 September 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== Webcite ==<br />
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Hi. Just a note to remind you that, as per the usage information on [[Template:Webcite]], the "accessed" field is not optional; you should use this to show the date you accessed the page. Thanks! --{{User:Mith/sig}} 12:08, 23 September 2019 (UTC)<br />
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:As the date showed up authomatically I wasn't including it the last times, but now I see that it was just some kind of preview. Thanks for pointing it out. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 12:19, 23 September 2019 (UTC)<br />
==Lost Tales==<br />
Hi Lorenzo, I appreciate much your work on expanding the pages on HoMe.<br />
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Sometimes I have been thinking if we should dedicate some virtual "space" of this wiki for the Lost Tales continuity, I mean we already have LT-related articles like [[Gruir]], [[Gilfanon]], [[Noldoli]], [[Inglor]] and so on. However for topics that are covered in published canon, we use the "Other version of the Legendarium" section, see for example [[Tol_Eressea#Other_versions_of_the_Legendarium]] or [[Mandos#Other_versions_of_the_Legendarium]]. But I believe there is much more that deserves to be told about the LT topics. So I had the thought about creating alternate pages dedicated to the "alternate" versions of those topics, something like [[Tol Eressea (Lost Tales)]]. Perhaps we should also include them in categories like "Lost Tales characters" or "Lost Tales locations" and even have some template on the top of each article that notifies we are talking about the "Lost Tales continuity", instead of the generic one about Tolkien's early, unfinished and best thoughts. So we can have a fully functional sub-wiki within the wiki covering the LT topics in a clean way. Similar to how Wookieepedia handles the Canon and the Legends articles.<br />
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These are my first thoughts, and I'd like to know your thoughts, before opening a forum topic. [[User:Sage|Sage]] 23:44, 1 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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:Hi Sage! Actually, I hate templates on the top of articles (because of how they look), but yours seems a good idea. It could help to clean the sections of OVOTL, that sometimes are a messy hotchpotch. However, I would wait until we have completed at least all the chapter summaries. The LT are a difficult topic, as there is not really a continuity (for example, I personally think that Christopher should have published the ''Part Two'' first), so I think it would be better to have a good base before clasifying things. And yes, I have planned to make those summaries at some point, don't know when.<br />
:Happy new year. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 00:28, 2 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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Hello again. Please have a look at the article [[Chasm of Ilmen]] and tell me if we can identify which is the particular earlier (1931) and later (1951) Silmarillion CT says about. Obviously he refers to the Quenta Noldorinwa and the Later Quenta? Or perhaps one of them is the Quenta of the Lost Road? I am not very comfortable with the versions and the dates. [[User:Sage|Sage]] 17:43, 22 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:Hello. It took me a while to find the page, you should try to include them more often (if you have the book on hand, of course). Yes, "the 'Silmarillion' that followed Q" (1937) is the ''[[Quenta Silmarillion (Lost Road)]]'' (he cites LR p.242), while the text used in the 77's ''Silmarillion'' is ''Annals of Aman'' §177 (1951). --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 19:06, 22 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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==Thank you==<br />
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Thank you for fixing my error on Christopher’s death date, LorenzoCB! I originally did have it as 16 January, but then I saw it as 15 January and thought it was an incorrect time conversion on my part. Whoops! — {{User:Holdwine Meriadoc/sig}} 23:15, 20 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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:Don't worry. That error has been giving problems in Wikipedia, as many newspapers were giving it mistakenly, and seems like the own Tolkien Family asked to some Tolkien Societies to clarify it.--[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 10:36, 21 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
==Foaloke==<br />
The foaloke is a type of dragon distinct from the Uruloke, it shouldn't be discussed in the same article. I think all relevant information should be contained in its distinct article. [[User:Sage|Sage]] 17:26, 13 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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:''[[Foa]]'' was changed to mean "breath", but it doesn't specify if it is because a foaloke "breathes fire" (being then an uruloke), which is the most obvious deduction, as a dragon that just breathes has nothing in particular. However, I agree with having a separated article, but you should make it starting from ''foa'' as "breath", not "hoard". In OVOTL could be included the description of Glorund as a foaloke. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 19:04, 13 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Sauron ==<br />
Firstly, I am not explaining Sauron's origins, but why he fell. Introductions should never be blunt. The sections expand the content of briefly presented in the introduction. <br />
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Secondly, the quote I put is from The Silmarillion - Valaquenta: Of the Enemies. Take a look if you will, I believe it is the last sentence in the paragraph concerning Sauron. --[[User:LordoftheEarth|LordoftheEarth]] 12:51, 31 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
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:Ah, as you removed all my edit, I didn't see you later put the quote that there was in the first place. If you want to help the wiki, there are many things that need to be improved: [[Tolkien Gateway:To-do]]. But the Sauron article is one of the few that are pretty fine, that's why I'm concerned with it.--[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 12:59, 31 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
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Sorry if I myself am not that receptive or even annoying at times ... I'm having a bad time ... broke up with a girl and all that ... Let's leave the Sauron article as it is for now. I added on the talk page that I changed the image so if someone thinks it doesn't work then we'll change it. I'll try to help out on other articles as well, of course. I appreciate your dedication to the wiki! A nice time till next time! --[[User:LordoftheEarth|LordoftheEarth]] 13:07, 31 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
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:Sorry for being harsh when I point out the mistakes in your Talkpage. I get nervous when people make many edits for just one article, but I should have been more polite. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 16:11, 31 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
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I would like to point out that I disagree with the choices of the new pics. However I would like to say that some of the recent edits were legit and shouldn't be reverted. When a user makes a lot of edits and another user doesn't agree with stylistic mistakes, they shouldn't revert all the edits, but rather fix the particular points. [[User:Sage|Sage]] 17:10, 31 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Melkor's Messenger ==<br />
I edited out Sauron and Ungoliant of the Servants of Melkor category, the reasons why are faily logical. Leaving these aside, does it say anyway if Melkor's messenger, Langon, in the Book of Lost Tales is an Ainu? I saw he is mentioned as such in the Allies and Servants of Morgoth section and I don't remember J.R.R. saying anything on Langon's nature. This is all I found on this emissary:<br />
"Melko heard him and was in doubt, he would not come, but sent Langon his servant..."--[[User:LordoftheEarth|LordoftheEarth]] 12:34, 1 June 2020 (UTC)<br />
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:I disagree with removing that category from Sauron. He was his servant for a whole age. He can also have the category of 'Evil' because he later became independent, but he was a true servant, it doesn't matter if he forsook Morgoth; unlike Ungoliant, who was never under Morgoth's command. I fixed the info of [[Langon]], thanks for pointing that out. But there are better things than caring for the categories.--[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 13:49, 1 June 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Lost Tales ==<br />
Can you give me an example about that Gnomes category? For example, we should add this to the articles about Feanor and Beren ? [[User:Sage|Sage]] 18:41, 14 June 2020 (UTC)<br />
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:I mean for those characters that didn't have a development beyond the "Gnome" phase, like [[Gilfanon]], [[Littleheart]]... If in the future we make articles for Beren the Gnome and others, that category would be applied. But now those examples are categorized as "Noldor", anachronically. (You can answer me in your talkpage, btw). --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 19:37, 14 June 2020 (UTC)<br />
==Oropher==<br />
Please have a look at [[Talk:Oropher]]. There is a passage that has been overlooked. I think the page about Oropher itself, as well as topics about the Elves of Lindon, the Sindar etc have some mistakes concerning their migrations. [[User:Sage|Sage]] 10:46, 14 July 2020 (UTC)<br />
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:Answered, I hope I helped. Do you take care of the matter? --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 13:39, 14 July 2020 (UTC)<br />
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==Eduardo Segura==<br />
Hey why did you remove the information and link from the article without an explanation? <br />
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And why do you plan leaving here? That was ''lathspel''. [[User:Sage|Sage]] 18:42, 4 August 2020 (UTC)<br />
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:Eduardo did work as a consultant for the movies, but he told me he had no impact, so it was not pertinent to include that info. He also asked me to remove that link, as he lost his web domain. Sorry, I should have indicated that, but as I am the only one involved with that article I didn't bother. <br />
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:I'm leaving because the wiki requires time, and I want to focus more on other projects and on my spiritual life. Also, I feel many things are gonna change soon and I don't think I'll be able to edit. But I'm still around here, I want to finish some things before. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 19:00, 4 August 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Image of Tevildo ==<br />
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I was just wondering, where did you get that image (I know it's from "Beren and Lúthien", but where, specifically, did you find it on the internet)?<br />
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Also, where did you find the title of the image? --[[User:IvarTheBoneless|IvarTheBoneless]]<br />
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:I found it on the internet, yes, Pinterest or something. I just searched one with a good quality and then I removed the frame following the policy of the wiki. Usually the images of Alan Lee have the title of the chapter from where they come, but there is no rule about that, so I put a more pertinent title. Are you sure we need a gallery for ''Beren and Lúthien''? That imples uploading all its images... --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 12:17, 12 August 2020 (UTC)<br />
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::Well, I'm planning to upload the entirety of Alan Lee's artwork from both "Beren and Lúthien" as well as those from "The Fall of Gondolin", yet I'm not sure on what should the appropriate title for those images should be. <br />
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::For example, take a look at this [http://misbehavingmaiarhome.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/tumblr_p615bfVvjf1tlkwg5o4_1280.jpg image] from "Beren and Lúthien". In the list of plates from the aforementioned book, this particular image is named ''"Surely that is a Silmaril that shines now in the West?"''. --[[User:IvarTheBoneless|IvarTheBoneless]]<br />
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:::Oh, if the images are titled in the book, then we should use those titles. I'll change the title of the one with Tevildo when I can check my book. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 15:11, 12 August 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Grammar on your user page ==<br />
The past tense for the verb to teach in the third paragraph of your user page is wrong. You should write "Tolkien tought me ...". To teach is a verb with an irregular past tense. The past tense of teach is tought. I am not going to write anything in spanish here, but you are welcome to correct my spanish if I ever write anything in spanish. I picked up some spanish by listening to people and by reading the Diario de Cadiz during vacations in Spain (I have to admit that I had latin at school and french at school and at university, so I had some basis in roman languages to start from). My native language is german. I once read an article about books owned by J.R.R. Tolkien and was amazed to see that most of the books o that list were written in german. --[[User:Akhorahil|Akhorahil]] 20:19, 2 October 2020 (UTC)<br />
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:Much appreciated! You can freely edit my Userpage if you want correct any grammar mistake. I'm searching now about it and the past tense of teach is actually t'''a'''ught: seems that t'''o'''ught is a common mistake, but thanks again for pointing out mine. About Tolkien's German books, Philology had had a strong development in Germany some time before Tolkien began college, so it was imperative for him to have those. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 20:47, 2 October 2020 (UTC)<br />
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::You are correct. The past tense of the verb teach is taught. Taught is one of the few words in english that end with aught. More words end with ought and are pronounced in the same way as words ending with aught. --[[User:Akhorahil|Akhorahil]] 13:45, 4 October 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Helge Fauskanger Optimal LOTR Prequel Movie ==<br />
Have you ever read Helge's article about the Westernesse Movie? It would be cool, if Amazon Prime would read his article and adapt it like that.{{unsigned|Akhorahil}}<br />
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:Yes! I wish that too, it has very good ideas. But it is also too short, as it is only about Númenor, and Númenor only comes into the Second Age scenario after hundred of years. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 18:24, 21 October 2020 (UTC)<br />
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==Clarily==<br />
First off, I just wanted to say thank you for all the work you've done on TG, it's always nice to see your username pop up under recent changes. I did want to mention clarily though, since I'm not entirely sure it's a word. I've seen you use it a few times, especially in etymology sections. It might just be a reoccurring typo; I think the word you're going for is "clearly". Sorry for being nitpicky, and for bugging you, I just wanted to let you know. --[[User:Grace18|Grace18]] 02:11, 4 December 2020 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks for your words and correction. My English is still on work, so it is a relieve that we can count with users that take care of grammar. Feel free to correct my edits, I'll propably see it and learn from it. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 09:13, 4 December 2020 (UTC)<br />
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==Names of Sauron==<br />
You can find the sources for the names and titles of Sauron that you asked for in the "Summary:" text box of your latest edit to the Sauron page on the Sauron page in the Origin section, in the Second Age section in the second paragraph, in the Black Years section in the last paragraph, in the On Númenor section in the second paragraph, in the The Necromancer section in the first paragraph, in the Etymology section and in the Other names and title section. If you have e-books of The Lord of the Rings and of the Silmarillion you can enter a name or title in the search field and look in which chapter or chapters on in which entry in the index it is included. --[[User:Akhorahil|Akhorahil]] 14:43, 22 December 2020 (UTC)<br />
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:I know the references of the Elvish names (I included most of them). I meant the names like 'Dark Power' , 'Black One', 'Black Hand', 'Nameless', which do not have any reference through the article or the Names section. I think I'm removing those until somebody provides proper references. The infobox is ridiculously long. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 15:26, 22 December 2020 (UTC)<br />
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:Whatever. I'll try to find the references myself. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 15:29, 22 December 2020 (UTC)<br />
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::I can try to help pin some of them down. 'Black Hand' appears a couple pages into the "Of Túrin Turambar" chapter in the ''Silmarillion'', although I can't tell if that refers to Morgoth or Sauron, I would have to reread the chapter. However, in ''The Two Towers'', in The Black Gate is Closed, Gollum uses the name 'Black Hand' twice in reference to Sauron: "But master is going to take it to him, straight the the Black Hand" "He has only four [fingers] on the Black Hand". In ''Return of the King'' under The Pyre of Denethor, Gandalf twice refers to Sauron as the Dark Power, and the term is used later in the book. I'll work on some of the others, and try to add the references once I find them. Do the references just go in the infobox next to each name, and should all the names be references, even those that appear later in the article? --[[User:Grace18|Grace18]] 16:06, 22 December 2020 (UTC)<br />
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:::That's useful, thanks! I'm making a proper list in the Names section, there we can include the references and explanation when necessary. We should avoid including references within the infobox, as it is suppoused to be a summary of the article (at least that's how I see it). --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 16:12, 22 December 2020 (UTC)<br />
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::::Sounds good! Is there a list of names still missing their sources that I can work off of? I don't want to end up redoing work someone else has already done. Looking at the article right now, it's hard for me to see what is sourced and unsourced among the names. --[[User:Grace18|Grace18]] 16:16, 22 December 2020 (UTC)<br />
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:::::I claimed the article because this is a tough topic, now I'm checking articles about specific names of him. The names of the Valar are quite a mess, but looks like [[Aragorn]] and [[Morgoth]] are more urgent. You'll probably have to deal with names randomly separated in articles, which should be merged with the main article (or not if they are names shared by others). --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 17:06, 22 December 2020 (UTC)<br />
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::::::Okay. I will look into the Aragorn and Morgoth articles and see what I can do. By the way, you may already have this, but I did a bit more hunting around for the other names of Sauron you mentioned: 'Black One' is used by Gollum to refer to Sauron in ''The Two Towers'' under The Black Gate is Closed. 'Nameless One' is used by Faramir in ''The Two Towers'' under A Window on the West, and is later used by the men of Gondor in ''Return of the King'' under the Siege of Gondor. --[[User:Grace18|Grace18]] 17:13, 22 December 2020 (UTC)<br />
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:::::::No, I haven't checked those yet, you saved me time, much appreciated. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 18:12, 22 December 2020 (UTC)<br />
==First Age==<br />
Hey, which "single reference" are you referring to, and what is the "wiki's policy" concerning the "First Age of the Sun"? I am not aware of any such explicit policy and I think the "Ages of the Sun" is a fanon term (I looked for it in HoMe). [[User:Sage|Sage]] 09:47, 25 February 2021 (UTC)<br />
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:As far as I know, the main reference to the "First Age" as the continuation of the Elder Days is the one from the Appendices that says the Exile of the Noldor happened at the end of the First Age. However, Tolkien, the wiki and the fandom use massively the term to refer to the [[Timeline/First Age|dates]] after the rising of the Sun; it is not an explicit policy, but quite implicit. I said "First Age of the Sun" just to point out the difference between the different conceptions, I'm not proposing anything. There is a terminology hole and we should clarify that before mixing things around.--[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 11:18, 25 February 2021 (UTC)<br />
::There is also a reference in HoMe that says that the First Age is much longer. Tolkien uses FA dates in the Grey Annals I think, but he doesn't equate FA 1 with solar year 1. This is a convention that began with Foster, which he admits is only a convention, and we follow it for better or worse, but no way it is a policy of the wiki, implicit or not, that we should consider everywhere in the articles that the First Age began in what Foster terms FA 1. Perhaps you might find some such references made years ago by other editors but it is not the first nor the last misconception that we detect in hindsight and we try to fix. On the contrary, that's what we should do. And yea, we follow fanon conventions when there is no better alternative, and when it is not contradicting the canon, but I think accepting "FA 1" as the beginning of the First Age within an article, is a mistake that perpetuates the misconception, and we have the option to avoid. I think removing or editing the First Age title in your list would do less "harm" than leaving it there. [[User:Sage|Sage]] 15:29, 25 February 2021 (UTC)<br />
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:::Where in the whole HoMe? I don't deny the facts, tho, but we cannot follow a convention and fix misconceptions at the same time. This is more complex than I thought and I'm just wondering, but I think that if we want to keep consistency in the wiki (which I think is prioritary), we have two options: <br />
:::*To move the dates in [[Timeline/First Age]] to "Years of the Sun ##" or whatever proper term, and be sure that every mention to the "First Age" in the wiki corresponds to the same concept.<br />
:::*To keep Foster's terminology, and explain the problem in the [[First Age]] article (which already does, btw).<br />
:::What we cannot do is saying "the Exile of the Noldor happened at the end of the First Age in the {{FA|1}}". --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 16:16, 25 February 2021 (UTC)<br />
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== Userboxes ==<br />
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I noticed that other users have info boxes that seem to be unlisted in the [[userboxes]] page. Things like "whether or not you believe that Tom Bombadil is the father of nature." To be honest, I was a little envious, but I am also wondering if there is some error that might need to be called to attention. I could have asked Mith, but he doesn't respond as actively as I write, but also you have answered some of my other questions, so I am asking you. <br />
Thank you, --[[User:Erónèhire|Erónèhire]] 04:22, 12 March 2021 (UTC)<br />
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:I didn't notice that. You can always click on edit a Userpage and copy whatever you want. Here is it: http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Template:User_tom . --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 08:20, 12 March 2021 (UTC)<br />
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::I think they should all be in here: [[:Category:Userbox templates]]. It's the category for the Userbox templates. --[[User:Grace18|Grace18]] 13:57, 12 March 2021 (UTC)<br />
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:::OK, thanks!--[[User:Erónèhire|Erónèhire]] 15:15, 12 March 2021 (UTC)<br />
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== Arnor ==<br />
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Hello. I noticed you made some recent edits on [[Arnor]]. I'd like your opinion on what I wrote on [[Talk:Arnor]]. [[User:Sage|Sage]] 07:18, 26 March 2021 (UTC)<br />
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:Hi! I didn't notice what you say when I made those small edits, feel free to undo them. I find kinda rude that Tengwar made a massive edit when it is clear you were revising it slowly; remember claiming the article next time. I also don't know what to do with the article now, I'm not into the Third Age, so I can't add much. Maybe now that it is shorter, it will be easier to revise by adding what is missing (?) --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 08:25, 26 March 2021 (UTC)<br />
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== Edits to Ancalagon, Carn Dum and other pages by a user with various IP addresses ==<br />
Thank you for fixing the text and references of the Ancalagon page after the edits by an Anonymous user that seems to use different IP addresses and that does not seem to know the templates for the references. I fixed the text and the references on the Carn Dum page after the edits by what seems Tonne the same user with his or her references without templates. Some statements in the page were wrong and a lot was about Angmar and not about Carn Dum and were speculative statements. In my opinion, it does not Make Sense to duplicate much from the Angmar page and to speculate that all troops from Angmar came from Carn Dum and that every statement about Angmar also refers to Carn Dum. I focused the page in what is known about Carn Dum. Maybe you can Check the etymology section. --[[User:Akhorahil|Akhorahil]] 15:11, 28 March 2021 (UTC)<br />
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:Good work! Yep, it is not uncommon to see references given to support assumptions and speculations, instead of giving the specific info of the article. I'll check the Etymology section when I can. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 08:29, 29 March 2021 (UTC)<br />
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== Carn Dûm etymology ==<br />
The statement that Carndoom and Caron-dûn mean Red Valley '''in Noldorin''' is just a theory, because the note in Return of the Shadow only says that it means Red Valley, but it does not say in which language Carndoom and Caron-dûn are. Of course we can make a theory based on components, like carn, caron, doom and dûn. Can we leave the theory that it is Noldorin or Sindarin to Mr. Salo and others and stick to the facts that are available in the reference for the Statement? --[[User:Akhorahil|Akhorahil]] 18:24, 30 March 2021 (UTC)<br />
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:''Caron-dûm'' has not only known [[Noldorin]] elements which correspond with the given gloss "Red Valley". The name was replaced by ''[[Nanduhirion]]'' (RS:433), which is Sindarin in LOTR, the next phase of the Noldorin language. I don't see any problem explaining what language a name is even if it is not explicitly indicated in the given reference: by sight an Elvish name can be easily identify as Q(u)enya or Sindarin/Noldorin, which is not the case with ''Carn-dûm'', as it casually corresponds with a Gaelic term. Tolkien didn't write every single name indicating "this is Quenya, this is Sindarin", so being that strict we would not be able to categorize most of the articles with Elvish names. Anyway, I'll change the section trying to keep order. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 19:34, 30 March 2021 (UTC)<br />
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== On the Ages headcanon ==<br />
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Hola Lorenzo,<br />
Creo que tus creencias sobre las [[Age|Edades]] son muy interesantes. Aunque tengo un pensamiento rápido; en la Carta 211, Tolkien dice que cree que estamos al final de la Sexta Edad/comienzo de la Séptima. ¿Crees que quizás la Octava Edad podría ser aquella en la que Cristo regrese, o crees que la Sexta Edad está teniendo un final bastante largo?<br />
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Me disculpo; mi Español no es muy bueno y aprendí Español Latinoamericano.<br />
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--{{User:Holdwine Meriadoc/sig}} 22:04, 9 April 2021 (UTC)<br />
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:Buenos días Holdwine. Tu español se entiende perfectamente :) Espero que puedas entender mi parrafada.<br />
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:No creo que la Sexta Edad sea especialmente larga: en esa carta, Tolkien dice que desde el fin de la [[Third Age|Tercera Edad]] han pasado 6000 años aproximadamente, o sea que la [[Fourth Age|Cuarta Edad]] y la Quinta Edad pueden tener 2000 años cada una. Tampoco significa que nuestra edad actual vaya a acabar enseguida (o sí): Dios tiene el poder de prorrogar la historia todo lo que quiera (2 Pedro 3:8-9). He visto a muchos fans decir que empezamos una nueva edad con el fin de la Segunda Guerra Mundial, pero Tolkien no parece pensar eso (él escribió la carta en 1958). Además, no hay nada en el mundo que pueda igualar a la victoria de Cristo sobre la muerte. En cualquier caso, mi headcanon se basa más en conectar el legendarium con [[:Wikipedia:Six Ages of the World|las edades del mundo]] en las que Tolkien se inspiró: ¿tal vez el único punto de inflexión entre la ficción y la historia real sea la religión? <br />
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:¿Por qué crees que estemos en la Séptima Edad? Creo que la historia se puede medir de diferentes maneras, o sea que no es incompatible. En la Edad Media también se hablaba de que con Cristo empezó un tiempo de Sabbath, y que cuando vuelva comenzará la Octava Edad del Eterno Domingo. Es una idea muy bonita. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 08:56, 10 April 2021 (UTC)<br />
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::Ah, supongo que no entendí completamente esa cita. Eso es lo que sucede cuando saco una cita de contexto sin mirar mi libro para comprobarlo.<br />
::Yo mismo soy un cristiano devoto y estoy fascinado con la Iglesia medieval. Tendré que buscar la creencia de la que hablaste. Ciertamente parece una idea buena y plausible, y creo que sería una buena experiencia. <br />
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:: Me alegro de que mi español sea comprensible. Han pasado tres años desde que me detuve para poder concentrarme en el latín, jaja.<br />
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::—{{User:Holdwine Meriadoc/sig}} 16:56, 10 April 2021 (UTC)<br />
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:::Yo encantado de hablar de estas cuestiones. Si quieres discutir otras cosas, no tengas problema en mandarme un e-mail o buscarme en Facebook. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 10:01, 12 April 2021 (UTC)<br />
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Y como podemos buscarte en facebook? [[User:Sage|Sage]] 15:19, 15 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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:Por mi nombre. Si ya estás en el grupo de The Tolkien Society, me encontrarás rápido, pues no hay muchos Lorenzos. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 15:22, 15 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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== Silmarillion chapters ==<br />
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Thanks for cleaning up my chapter summaries. Sometimes I lose track of things or misinterpret them. [[User:Turiannerevarine|Turiannerevarine]] 12:53, 15 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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:No problem, the idea is to help each us other. Thank you for making those summaries, they should have been done years ago. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 15:20, 15 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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== References ==<br />
It is useful to include more precise references, which are independent of the page numbering, because it makes it easier for readers with an edition with different page numbering to find the source. Altough Help:References says that no page numbers should be included for some publications (with different editions with different page numbering), such as Unfinished Tales of Númenor and Middle-earth, I personally do not have a problem to also include a page number in addition to a reference that is independent of the page number (e.g. the number of the paragraph or whether something is mentioned at the beginning, in the middle or at the end of a chapter with many paragraphs that are hard to count). I would appreciate if you do not delete such abstract references. --[[User:Akhorahil|Akhorahil]] 15:57, 27 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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:I think that the MoS should require the UT pagination, I asked for that long ago, but there are no admins to decide. Not including pagination for UT makes no sense, as Christopher Tolkien uses it, and there are not so many editions of UT, unlike TLOTR, which does require pagination. No offense to your additions, I love you get involved, but those abstract references are not very consistent with the rest of the wiki, and I think we should avoid them. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 19:29, 27 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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::I disagree. It is important to take into consideration that many readers nowadays only have electronic versions of the books and do not have paper versions of the books. So even with books who do not have paper versions with different page numbers, such readers can not find or verify the source if only a page number is provided in the reference. For such users abstract references that are independent of the page number makes it much quicker to find a source and to verify if that source really supports what is written on Tolkien Gateway. Consistency is not the point. The point is the utility and practicality of the references for as many readers as possible. In my opinion, abstract references that are independent of the page numbers and page numbers of the most common english paper editions of the books should be combined. --[[User:Akhorahil|Akhorahil]] 09:33, 28 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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:::Well, that consideration also applies to any book. Consistency is mandatory for all matters. Why only apply abstract references to UT and just in a few articles? If you want to use that system, apply it systematically to every reference in the wiki, go ahead. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 09:45, 28 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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:::You wrote to use abstract references (for references to books where no page numbers should be included) not just for UT (where no page numbers should be used), but also for other books. I just did that for S (where no page numbers should be used). It is not my Problem that other editors have previously not used more precise references in references to books where no page numbers should be used. The main problem of this Wiki is the lack of quality of its content and the lack of references, which allow other users to verify the quality of the content by following the references and by reading the books, which are the source. More precise references are more user friendly and enable them to find the sources more quickly and thus more efficiently. It is tiresome to read sometimes long chapters to try to find a passage that supports a statement in an article. Consistency is not a dogma, quality and user friendlyness are more relevant and it is the others who should be consistency with me father than me trying to use imprecise and inefficient references. There is already ennough category, Images and user box fetishism in this wiki, but still a Lot of basic problems with references and the quality of the content. --[[User:Akhorahil|Akhorahil]] 11:53, 25 March 2022 (UTC)<br />
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::::Abstract references should be applied to all books in addition to the page numbers in the most common paper editions of the books. I have used abstract references not only for UT, but also for other books in the past (e.g. for WJ). I usually look at the templates for the books and then already use the most detailed subsection, note or appendix that is available in the template and add note numbers, $ numbers, paragraph numbers and any headings / titles that are in the book, but that have not already been included in the template. In the case of The History of Middle-earth books. --[[User:Akhorahil|Akhorahil]] 08:56, 29 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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:::::Still you are missing the point of consistency: your are applying that system randomly. And as a system it is quite unprofessional, doesn't look good. A proper system to solve these matters is the [[Structural references|Arda structural references]], but neither this or yours are indicated in the Manual of Style. I you don't know the pages, do as the MoS says and just include the chapter, as ''The Silmarillion'' or ''The Hobbit''. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 11:55, 30 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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::::::Neither the Manual of Style nor Help:References say that abstract references can not be used and thus do not say to just include the chapter. I am not applying that system randomly. Whether something "looks good" or not lies in the eye of the beholder and is a subjective value judgement. In my opinion, the utility of the references for readers who do not have the sources with the same page numbers and who do not have to read whole chapters to try to guess on which passage something could be based is more important. --[[User:Akhorahil|Akhorahil]] 16:21, 2 August 2021 (UTC)<br />
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== Double Redirect ==<br />
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Thanks for fixing the double redirect of [[Evenstar]] (I missed it yesterday)! --[[User:Oromë|Oromë]] 13:39, 18 September 2021 (UTC)<br />
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:No problem. I always check the page of double redirects just in case. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 17:04, 18 September 2021 (UTC)<br />
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== Template:NM ==<br />
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Thanks for creating the citation template for NoMe! It looks to be a top-notch template, which will find much use at TG. I had the intention today to create that very template, but I saw that you had been quick :-). --[[User:Morgan|Morgan]] 21:50, 19 October 2021 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks! I figured we'd need it asap, so I made it based on previous templates. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 09:34, 20 October 2021 (UTC)<br />
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== "http" vs "https" in links ==<br />
Hi LorenzoCB! I've noticed on a couple of articles that you change web links from "https://" to "http://" ([http://www.tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Beren&diff=340356&oldid=340329 example]). Was just wondering what your reason for doing this is? (This isn't a criticism by the way! Just wondering why we should prefer http over https). Thanks! --[[User:GondolinFan|GondolinFan]] 22:58, 4 January 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:I do that just to remove the ugly padlock sign. Idk if there is a problem changing it, but I've never seen the links being actually affected. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 17:45, 5 January 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Edits by the user Dour1234 ==<br />
Have you had time to view the edits that were made by the new user Dour1234? In his first edit (on the [[Isilmo]] page), he inserted a link to a questionable website. J.R.R. Tolkien strongly disliked racism and hated the separation of races (i.e. apartheid) (see the Tolkien on Racism section on the [[Racism in Tolkien's Works]] page. He may have stumbled on this source for the theory on the origin of the Witch-king by an internet search, but his recent edits, which mostly consisted of moving pages without using the move function and changing pages to redirect to other pages, were done without him proposing to do this on the talk pages and without waiting for the approval of other, ideally more experienced users, before doing it. In addition some of the content that he copied from other pages largely duplicated already exising information. In summary, the edits did not seem to be thorough and did not seem to be of a high quality. I agree that the content on some pages could be merged with other pages and that some pages could be changed to redirect to other pages, but that should be discussed first and should be done with care. --[[User:Akhorahil|Akhorahil]] 11:05, 24 January 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:You did a good job. Maybe some of the articles merged don't need to be discussed (because some already have been so), but in anycase merging and moving must be done properly and not just for the sake of completing some pendant to-do in the wiki. I guess I should prioritize merging those articles myself, it's not the first time this happens. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 18:38, 24 January 2022 (UTC)<br />
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The user Dour1234, who had been blocked temporarily already in the past, has moved the Tal-Elmar page to Tal-elmar without discussing his intent to move the page on the Talk page before moving it. In addition the reason that he left in the Summary box when making the move is incorrect or at least incomplete in an important aspect. Please look at the results of my analysis of the spelling used in the chapter Tal-Elmar on the talk page [[Talk:Tal-elmar]].<br />
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In addition the user Dour1234 moved the Wizards page to Order of Wizards although you and Shivam objected to that you referred to TG:NAMING on the Talk page before the move. Furthermore he made a lot of other edits, which included adding the category Organizations (even with with a "z" as in the American English spelling) to some pages. Please review his changes and revert them if you have the time and consider blocking the user Dour1234.<br />
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I would also appreciate your opinion on moving the Kings of Rohan page to Kings on the Mark. I left the results of my analysis and my opinion on the talk page. In my opinion users will be able to find it easily if Kings of Rohan and King of Rohan redirect to Kings of the Mark. In my opinion the article should be expanded to clarity that Kings of the Mark is the title used by the people of Rohan, because they referred to their country as the Mark or the Riddermark and that the title Kings of Rohan was only used by people who were not from Rohan and who referred to the country as Rohan. In that way Kings of Rohan would still be included in the text of the page (and could be found with search engines, such as google) and would exist as a redirect page (which could be found by typing it in on Tolkien Gateway or via a search in a search engine), but the title of the page would be the official in-universe title of the Kings of that country. --[[User:Akhorahil|Akhorahil]] 10:39, 28 February 2022 (UTC)<br />
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The user Dour1234 also moved the content of the Gwaith-i-Mírdain to the People of the Jewel-smiths page, which had been a redirect to the Gwaith-i-Mírdain page, without using the move function and changed the Gwaith-i-Mírdain page to redirect to the People of the Jewel-smiths page. The name People of the Jewel-Smiths is only used in the Index of Unfinished Tales of Númenor and Middle-earth in the entry for Gwaith-i-Mírdain as the meaning of Gwaith-i-Mírdain. In the text of the chapter The History of Galadriel and Celeborn in Unfinished Tales of Númenor and Middle-earth only the terms Gwaith-i-Mírdain or Mírdain are used. As a consequnce because of the use of this term in the text and because of the [[Tolkien Gateway:Naming policy]] the Gwaith-i-Mírdain should contain the content and the People of the Jewel-smiths page should redirect to the Gwaith-i-Mírdain page, in my opinion. --[[User:Akhorahil|Akhorahil]] 14:12, 28 February 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:I've been out these days. I just cleaned the mess save the Tar-Elmar matter, which I'll study tomorrow God willing. I'll leave my reply about the "Kings of Rohan" matter. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 21:39, 28 February 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== About andreth prophecy ==<br />
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Is the idea that the andreth prophecy refers to the war of wrath a view of christopher tolkien? Or did you come up with this view first in the world? {{unsigned|162.158.251.130}}<br />
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:Christopher Tolkien links this prophecy to the Second Prophecy of Mandos, but he notices that the term "Last Battle" is applied to the War of Wrath in the same text. Interpreting the prophecy either way is up to you, but if something we should stick to Christopher's. We better keep this matter ambiguous. Please, do not edit things if you haven't read what you are citing. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 10:57, 16 February 2022 (UTC)<br />
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::Since I have also edited that section of that article recently, I figured I'd also offer my $0.02 on the subject. <br />
::The immediate context of the quote makes it seem that Andreth just flubbed her prophecy: the plain meaning of the term "Last Battle" in this essay refers to the War of Wrath, and Ancalagon was slain by Eärendil in most versions of that story. However, CJRT's subsequent reference to the ''Book of Lost Tales'' era, "and Melko and his drakes shall curse the sword of Mormakil," suggest that this is less a goof on Andreth's part and more a parallel track of thought by JRRT that wasn't as fleshed out as the Eärendil version of the story.<br />
::I have no idea why JRRT would revisit that very old and scarcely-developed line of thought connecting Túrin with "Melko's drakes" in ''The Problem of Ros''. But it seems to me that this is likely what happened. <br />
::The only way I can square this prophecy as being simultaneously true and compatible with the other depictions of the War of Wrath is to say that Andreth foresaw that Morgoth's creatures would also return from the Void at the Dagor Dagorath. This would allow Eärendil to slay Ancalagon in the "Last Battle" of the First Age and Túrin to slay Ancalagon in the "Last Battle" of all time. <br />
::The trouble with that interpretation is that I can't find any explicit reference to this notion of Ancalagon (or any other of Morgoth's creatures) returning alongside Morgoth anywhere else. In light of that, it seems to me an awful stretch to assert this as being compatible with the "main" Legendarium. To that extent, this prophecy probably rightly belongs in an OVOTL section. Unless, that is, someone can find textual references to the idea of Morgoth's servants or creatures returning alongside him at the Dagor Dagorath. --[[Special:Contributions/Mord|Mord]] 22:59, 16 February 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:::Thank you, I think the matter of prophecies is well explained in [[Túrin#Legacy]] for now. IMO, there is no need to put that info in OVOTL, but in anycase, we better keep the different prophecies together. <br />
:::About what the text refers to: I disagree with the idea of JRRT coming back to TBOLT idea so many decades later; he didn't even returned to consult that phase, instead he usually continued developing from previous texts. I also think that Christopher was wrong when comparing Andreth's prophecy with the Second Prophecy of Mandos (although the compilation of the different versions was pretty necessary and probably that was the best place to put it), because the different versions of this prophecy follow a "tradition" that Andreth's prophecy does not respect at all: it doesn't have the same structure, nor the content, nor the context of the end of tales. However, I was wrong with a point that I just noticed re-reading the commentary: Christopher doesn't think Andreth's prophecy refers to the Dagor Dagorath (he seems to support that at first sight because he includes a whole page comparing the prophecy of the Last Battle at the End of time), but he says that the concept of the return of Túrin was moved to the Last Battle at the end of the First Age (Christopher should notice that both of Túrin returns are compatible, tho). Another important point is that it makes no sense that Túrin leaves the [[Circles of the World]] after the Dagor Dagorath (mainly because the Circles probably will no longer exist); neither makes sense that the text mentions Túrin in particular to explain that the language of the [[Haladim]] will be heard again, when in a scatological context the whole House could be back. I'd love to delve into ''[[The Problem of Ros]]'', it seems to have a perspective from both Aman and Middle-earth, and it is weird that Andreth's prophecy seems to be written before the end of the War of Wrath (or not, maybe the writer simply had no clue of what happened there). Holly molly, so much info around...<br />
:::I think it is [[User:LorenzoCB#Headcanons|compatible]] that both Eärendil and Túrin killed Ancalagon in the War of Wrath. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 16:17, 17 February 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== BOLT category ==<br />
What exactly is the use for [[:Category:The Book of Lost Tales]] - and what to do with articles like the ones on [[Maltar]], [[Nen (river in Valinor)|Nen]], etc. which clearly belong to the same time period as the rest of BoLT related articles?[[User:IvarTheBoneless|IvarTheBoneless]] 18:05, 23 February 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:I created that category to gather its subcategories, which existed previously. I don't see the need for those articles to be in that category, the same way [[:Category:The Lord of the Rings]] does not include concepts, but bookish topics. With categories like [[:C:Qenya locations]], things are already categorized, no need for more unless we come with new ideas for TBOLT matter, which should be discussed and planned so they can be properly applied. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 19:07, 23 February 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== A Thank You, An Apology For Past Edits, And A Solution To Prevent A Third Blocking ==<br />
First off, I would like to thank you for unblocking me on the 13th rather than the 14th, even if only by a few hours. Due to the fact that you have blocked me twice, I am now only going to edit and make suggestions on talk pages in order to minimize the chance of you blocking me again, as I do not want to risk breaking policy and this is the best way for me to do so without the risk of being tempted to edit on the actual pages. Though I will still be very active on Tolkien Gateway, hopefully, there will not be any more problems unintentionally caused by me. [[User:Dour1234|Dour1234]], 13 March 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:Despite the announcement by the user Dour1234 to only edit on talk pages and to make sugestions on talk pages, the user Dour1234 has made edits on actual pages (e.g. [[Old Forest Road]], [[Menelmacar]], [[Menelmacil]], [[Nazgûl]], [[Wizards]], [[Order of Wizards]], [[Standard of Elendil]], [[Thranduil]], [[Legolas (elf of Gondolin)]], [[Denethor (son of Lenwë)]], [[Denethor]], [[Denweg]], [[Dân]]). The user Dour1234 removed the category Organizations from the Wizards page and added the category Organizations to the [[Order of Wizards]] despite the fact that you told him not to do it and explained to him that the category organizations is already applied to the Wizards page and without prior approval to his request. I noticed that on the [[Nazgûl]] page a reference to a chapter of The Lord of the Rings has been added without adding a page number and without any explanation which reasonable efforts the user Dour1234 has made to obtain a page number from the 50th anniversary edition of The Lord of the Rings and why the user Dour1234 has been unable to obtain it. In another instance the user Dour1234 made an edit on an actual page (in the Other names section on the [[Old Forest Road]] page) without a reference to the chapter (or subsection of a chapter it it exists in the [[Template:UT]]) and simply announced in the Summary box that he did not have the time to add a link and reference and that he intend to do so in the future. This behaviour is unacceptable and creates a lot of work for other users who have to review and correct those edits. The user Dour1234 has been warned and blocked before and should be blocked even it the user Dour1234 tries to correct the errors. I ask you to review these edits if [[Tolkien Gateway:Manual of Style]] and [[Help:References]] have been adhered to. --[[User:Akhorahil|Akhorahil]] 15:30, 17 March 2022 (UTC)<br />
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::LorenzoCB, Is there any potential way you or someone else could maybe do a sort of a half-block or something or that nature, meaning stopping me from editing actual pages, but still allowing me to edit on talk pages? I often think rashly and often forget certain things. This is all only intensified by my love of all things Tolkien related. It is something that I am very ashamed of. I have actively been trying to find a solution for a while. What are some of the other things that could work besides blocking, if I may ask? [[User:Dour1234|Dour1234]], 17 March 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:::Caring so much for the talkpages doesn't help to the wiki, specially if you proceed to do as you consider. What we need is actual editing, which must be done properly with no rush. Anyone who is acquainted with the wiki, its categories and style, and provides actual references, can edit without using the talkpages, which should be used for actual difficult matters and not for trivial things like moving the own talkpages you created two days ago. I'm not blocking you right now, but please, abstain from editing, study first how the wiki works and get to the sources. If you are unable to control yourself, I will block you again, and it will not be partially or for a short time. <br />
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:::Akhorahil, I don't find particularly problematic that users include references to TLOTR without a page number. I don't have a copy of the 50 anniversary edition (yet) and I won't explain my situation every time I include a ref. You are right about your other complaints. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 16:42, 18 March 2022 (UTC)<br />
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Desipite you having reverted several of the user Dour1234's edit to the Two Watchers page, he has made six new edits to that page of which three were reversions of his own edits. His chaotic way of editing with many edits and reverting his own edits makes it more difficult to review his changes. In addition he seems to have realized only in his penultimate edit that the Silent Watchers are not the same as the Two Watchers and previously even had the opinion on the talk page of the Two Watchers page that the Silent Watchers is the proper name for the Two Watchers and some of his edits conerned the name boxes in the user box. He could have done some careful reading of the passages in The Lord of the Rings where the Silent Watchers and the Two Watchers are mentioned to find out that they are not the same and that the Silent Watchers are first mentioned by Gollum in the context of the the main pass of Minas Morgul and Minas Morgul before Gollum even mentions that there is another way via the stairs of Cirith Ungol and that Gollum does not even mention that this other pass is guarded by the Tower of Cirith Ungol and that the second time The Silent Watchers are mentioned by Gorbag, an orc from Minas Morgul and that the Silent Watchers were uneasy more than two days ago, which is approximately when Gollum, Frodo and Sam were at the bridge over the river Morgulduin in the Morgul Vale close to Minas Morgul just before they climbed the Stairs of Cirith Ungol. All these edits and possible work for other users to check those edits could have been avoided. The user Dour1234 still seems not to have heeded your advice not to be so hasty with his edits and to pepare for his edits diligently. Prior blocks do not seem to have changed the behaviour of the user Dour1234 much. I would appreciate if you could do something to help with this problem. --[[User:Akhorahil|Akhorahil]] 09:37, 16 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:After I made my edit I noticed that the Recent changes now shows that you blocked the user Dour1234, which the Recent changes did not show before I made the edit (there seems to be a delay until edits show up on the Recent edits page. Thank you for noticing it and for having take action. We seem to have had similar thoughts about those edits and the about possible action to be taken concerning that matter. --[[User:Akhorahil|Akhorahil]] 09:43, 16 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
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::Ooff, mucho texto... I appreciate Dour's good intentions, but I've been consenting him too much. Merely touching things around does not contribute to the wiki. I encourage him to get actual bibliography and delve into it, the firsts steps to become a Tolkien scholar. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 15:09, 16 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Comment ==<br />
I will stop. About how long do you think is reasonable that I should wait between edits? [[User:Dour1234|Dour1234]], 21 March 2022<br />
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:Just use talkpages to discuss actual difficult matters, the wiki doesn't work as a forum. Also, think twice before editing, you are correcting yourself too much and making too many microedits. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 08:09, 21 March 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== For Signature......Again ==<br />
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Hi, LorenzoCB you might have noticed that my signature isn't working. I have tried almost everything. Kindly help.--Shivam 14:57, 21 March 2022 (UTC)<br />
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Example ↑ no link to my user page.<br />
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:Mmmm, no idea. I guess you use <nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki> ? But anycase, I don't understand what's the source of that problem and I don't think I have the requirements to solve it. Sorry. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 15:36, 21 March 2022 (UTC)<br />
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::Okay, no problem. [[User:Shivam|Shivam]]<br />
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:::When you go to the "My preferences" page, what do you see in the text box "Signature"? This is what I see for myself: https://ibb.co/8601vQF --[[Special:Contributions/Mord|Mord]] 04:33, 22 March 2022 (UTC)<br />
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::::Finally, something worked. Thanks Mord.--[[User:Shivam|Shivam]] 05:46, 22 March 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Webcite template ==<br />
I have to apologize for referencing Eldamo and other sites without having an inkling of ''webcite template''. I will rectifiy these articles. [[User:IvarTheBoneless|IvarTheBoneless]] 22:39, 22 March 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:Don't worry. Thanks! --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 22:55, 22 March 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== User Niclosam ==<br />
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Hi Lorenzo, I don't know if you noticed a new user account has been made named Niclosam. In his user page there is a link to a commercial website. I don't think its appropriate. Also the whole user page feels like an advertisement.--[[User:Shivam|Shivam]] 13:46, 25 March 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:Hi. No need to explain or notice me unless I don't edit after many days. Just do as Akhorahil did without permission: blanck the page and include the spam tag. Thanks anyway! --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 15:16, 25 March 2022 (UTC)<br />
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::Ok,thanks.--[[User:Shivam|Shivam]] 15:20, 25 March 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Consent of the artist(s) ==<br />
I have uploaded, and might upload some more images, of artists who up to this point haven't given their consent to do so or haven't even been asked to contribute their work on TG.<br />
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That being said, I present to you a screenshot of the artist's agreement to post their artwork here (since you are an admin now): [https://imgur.com/a/nWdTtci Olga Kalinichenko's consent].<br />
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If it is alright with you, I will forward all evidence of artists' permission to use their work here, on your talkpage. Unless you can think of a better solution? - [[User:IvarTheBoneless|IvarTheBoneless]] 01:06, 4 April 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:Never mind, I just realized there is the [[:Category:Images of evidence of permission granted by copyright holders|Images of evidence of permission granted by copyright holders]]. - [[User:IvarTheBoneless|IvarTheBoneless]] 06:57, 4 April 2022 (UTC)<br />
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::You should keep the screenshots and send them to Mith via email. We should delete that category IMO, but you can you make use of it if you wish. Please, do not upload images until the artist gave permission. Put the delete tag in those images uploaded without the artist's consent. Be patient and do not upload things until the artists answer your requests, even (and particularly) if they never answer you. We must be very strict with this matter. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 08:29, 4 April 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:::I'm well aware of that - I've reached out before to great many artists and got their consent, I just wasn't quite sure where to present the proof of their agreement. P.S. I don't really have an email, at least not one that I have used in quite a long time, so I doubt I'll be able to log into it. How about I just post some artists' copyright proofs to Mith's talkpage instead, would that be acceptable?<br />
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:::Also, I too believe that the category you were talking about is a bit clunky and unneccesary, after trying it out. - [[User:IvarTheBoneless|IvarTheBoneless]] 15:32, 4 April 2022 (UTC)<br />
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::::Mith's talkpage is fine. He will also decide what to do with that category. You are saying you uploaded images while waiting for the artist's consent. Please, if that's true, delete those asap and wait to the artist's response. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 16:33, 4 April 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:::::It is not true - all the art I've uploaded recently has been approved by the artists themselves, and has been sitting on my desktop for quite some time, as you can see for yourself if you check the dates on the imgur proofs I posted; I ''never'' upload artworks without permission of the artists.<br />
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:::::What I meant by: "''I have uploaded, and might upload some more images, of artists who up to this point haven't given their consent to do so or haven't even been asked to contribute their work on TG''" is that I might in the future look for some other artists and ask for their blessing to upload their work, although I worded that sentence quite badly, I admit. - [[User:IvarTheBoneless|IvarTheBoneless]] 17:00, 4 April 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:::::I'll link you the same proofs as I have to Mith in his talkpage:<br />
*Olga Kalinichenko (https://imgur.com/a/nWdTtci)<br />
*Marina Muscan (https://imgur.com/a/S2vyiNM)<br />
*Janet Georgiou (https://imgur.com/a/HV3BgmW)<br />
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:::::And as for any other artwork I upload from here forward, for anyone doubting that it isn't approved by the artists themselves, I can always link them the proof. - [[User:IvarTheBoneless|IvarTheBoneless]] 17:12, 4 April 2022 (UTC)<br />
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::::::I noticed you put the links there, no need for more. Thanks. Maybe it is because I'm not an English speaker, but I'm not able to understand that sentence otherway. No problem tho. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 17:23, 4 April 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:::::::No worries, it was I who did not express myself clearly enough. - [[User:IvarTheBoneless|IvarTheBoneless]] 18:56, 4 April 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Concerning account ==<br />
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Hello, it seems like my account is at a low level, as I cannot do certain things in this website, such as uploading images, sandbox...etc. May I ask how could I gain such abilities? [[User:Luotiansha|Luotiansha]] 04:10, 19 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:Hi. You will be an autoconfirmed user after 50 edits and a week after registration. That will allow you to do those mentioned things. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 07:13, 19 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Category:Uncategorized journals issues ==<br />
Hi, I intend to create a new category page "Uncategorized journals issues", as a subcategory of [[:Category:Journals]]. In this category I want to put all the journal issues that do not have a Tokiengateway wikipage about the journal it belongs to. (either because the journal itself is foreign or less significant) (such as [[The Times Literary Supplement 14 September 2012]])<br />
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In this way [[:Category:Journals]] will be cleaner and easier to navigate. Do you approve this? [[User:Luotiansha|Luotiansha]] 06:04, 1 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:Hi. I'm fine with it. Maybe a more correct term would be "Loose journal numbers" or something like that? I'm not a native English speaker, but you get the idea. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 21:50, 1 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
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::Unfortunately me neither D: I'll just go with "Unsorted journal issues". [[User:Luotiansha|Luotiansha]] 10:16, 2 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Why Was My IP Blocked? ==<br />
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I was just wondering why my IP has been blocked. It says it's because of vandalism, but all of my edits have been trying to improve the articles. Sometimes the syntax is weak or there are spelling mistakes, and I just want to polish the phrasing up a bit. I also sometimes add helpful information as well (like my contributions to the Mîm page and the Cuiviénen page). I've never tried to intentionally vandalize pages. I'm a genuinely massive Tolkien fan and use this site frequently. I admit I'm not the best when it comes to citing things correctly, but I can try harder in the future! Thanks for considering my message. {{Unsigned|<br />
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:I don't know why I blocked you because idk who are you or what you did. Sometimes a blocking is just to prevent bad editing to keep going and doesn't mean your contributions are necessarily seen as vandalism. Of course you are encouraged to improve your editing and create an user account, which would avoid your IP to be trapped by other users' block, as it has happened before. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 09:45, 24 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Vinyar Tengwar ==<br />
Hi again. I see that all VT issues wiki pages has the sentence ''"The content list above only contains published articles."'' I don't know what that supposes to mean, is there any "unpublished articles" for each VT issue? or is there any policy involved?<br />
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Anyways, I intend to make each VT issue's content more complete (an example I made is [[Vinyar Tengwar 11]]). If such change is not against any policy, I'll work on all the remaining issues in the similar way. Is that okay? [[User:Luotiansha|Luotiansha]] 08:39, 1 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:Hi. I don't know, actually. I guess it means that the list of contents is limited to the articles in the issue. In that case, if you expand that section, you can freely remove that sentence. Please, if you expand those sections (which is great, go ahead), try to apply the same to all the issues for the sake of consistency. I have all VT, so I'll try to give a hand. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 23:03, 3 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
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::Aye, got it. Thanks a lot for the help! [[User:Luotiansha|Luotiansha]] 06:15, 4 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
::In fact, while my work is mainly about the "formatting" of the contents sections of VT pages (which is relatively easy to do), there is another important work to do (I believe), which I'm not confident to do myself (due to my language skills etc.). That is to provide details to the "unique materials" appearing on a number of VT issues. You see, many of the entries are marked as '''The above article is previously unpublished primary material from the Tolkien archives,''' but it is not mentioned what exactly are those materials. [[Vinyar Tengwar 12]] this I think can be a good example (adding info below that sentence). I would feel most grateful if you could lend a help on this matter. [[User:Luotiansha|Luotiansha]] 13:48, 5 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:::I was about to tell you about that before, but I wasn't sure. Obviously those statements make sense in some of the VT articles, when the journal was transitioning to be only a publication of Tolkien's works. Maybe it would be more appropiate to include those statements as notes, less intrusive. And maybe in some cases this can be noted in the introduction, like when VT began focusing on Tolkien's work (I think it was VT39). --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 21:44, 5 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Email Verification ==<br />
First off, I'm a transgender woman. I originally was here as [[user:Pinkkeith|pinkkeith]] which had my dead name in it. I created this profile because I couldn't log on my old account or retrieve a request to update the password. I also wanted a username that reflected my current name. I tried to verify my email address on this account, but I'm not receiving the email to verify it. It looks like out of the current administrators that you are the most recent active, so I reached out to you. Is there anything you can do to fix this problem? Thanks! --[[User:Pinkkatie|Pinkkatie]] 02:56, 3 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:Greetings. I don't have the power to check internal stuff of the wiki. I'm not sure, but the e-mail is optional when creating an account, so maybe verification is not needed. Have you checked that you receive e-mails when doing things mentioned in [[Special:Preferences]] or asking for a new password? Anyway, you seem to be logged in and editing, so I don't see the problem here. Your new user will be autoconfirmed after a week and 50 edits. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 23:03, 3 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
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::Thank you for the quick reply. I just wanted to make sure that I could verify my email in case I forget the password again and need to reset it. --[[User:Pinkkatie|Pinkkatie]] 00:25, 4 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
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::What can I get in touch with to fix this problem? I still cannot verify my email because I'm not getting the confirmation email sent to me. I am using my personal email address and can't locate it in any of my folders. --[[User:Pinkkatie|Pinkkatie]] 12:02, 16 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:::What's the problem exactly? I told you the email is optional, so I think there is no verification process. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 21:24, 23 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Statute of Finwë and Míriel ==<br />
Hello, Lorenzo! On [[Tolkien Gateway]], the [[Years of the Trees|Year of the Tree]] when the [[Statute of Finwë and Míriel|Statute]] was proclaimed is listed as {{YT|1172}}, which is taken from the ''[[The Annals of Aman|Annals of Aman]]''. However, in the ''[[The Later Quenta Silmarillion|Later Quenta Silmarillion]]'' it is stated that after death of [[Míriel]] (which occured in {{YT|1170}}) '''twelve years''' passed before the Statute was proclaimed in {{YT|1182}}, the same year when [[Finwë]] plead before [[Manwë]]:<br />
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{{blockquote|Yet Finwë was not content, being young and eager; and he still desired to have more children to bring mirth into his house. When, therefore, twelve years had passed he went again to Manwë.|''Of the Simarils and the Darknening of Valinor, p. 258''}}<br />
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So, what's date more correct? If it's the latter date, then why the former one is used instead?<br/>[[User:Ar-Zigûr|Ar-Zigûr]] 15:45, 10 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:Hi. I can't check my books right now, but I assume it's the latter. However, the ''Annals of Aman'' had many later corrections, so I'm not certain. In answer to your question: the Annals were taken as the main source for the dates and whoever did it was not aware of this info. I will change this when I can; the Statute is a very interesting topic for me. Thanks for pointing it out. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 16:49, 10 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Large number of edits by the user MelkorAscendant ==<br />
The user MelkorAscendant has made a large number of edits to many pages that need to be reviewed and corrected when necessary. I do not know if he had been blocked in the past, but there are long gaps without edits if you Look at bis user contributions. After he edited the Morgul-knife page by including information about the Morgul wound of Steward Boromir that was not related to a Morgul-knife, because he was not turned into a wraith and instead died within days without using a template for a reference and making general speculative statements and making many individual micro edits and not correcting existing incorrect information in the page, I tried to talk to the user in the user's talk page, but the user did not respond. As a consequence, I corrected the Morgul-knife page, but the user edited it again inserting much of bis old deleted content again with many micro edits. As a consequence, I reverted those edits on the page. Interestingly the user Dour1234 was also active on that page. --[[User:Akhorahil|Akhorahil]] 06:07, 13 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
:There were two edits that I made on that page for two different reasons. One was to add a reference to a sentence with a "{{Fact}}" next to it, and the other was a result of a misreading on my part. Other than those two edits, I had not been on that page since Akhorahil had organized the page far better than what I tried to do in the first of my two edits. --[[User:Dour1234|Dour1234]], 13 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
:: I used the reference that was found by the user Dour1234 when I cleaned up the whole page and mentioned that in the summary box of that respective edit. I already took care of the edit by the user Dour1234 that was caused by bis misunderstanding. --[[User:Akhorahil|Akhorahil]] 07:11, 13 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
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: Yep, not good contributions. He has not been blocked previously, but I'll do it if he continues in that same ruinous path. Btw, you don't need to undo the edits one by one. Go the History tab of the article, select the edits from the user and click on "compare". --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 07:15, 13 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
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::I have started reviewing the other recent edits by the user MelkorAscendant. I noticed that you have already been reverted his edit on the Morgoth page and that Grace edited after some of his edits on the Witch-king page, but he made further edits after that and that Grace corrected things after his edits on the Nazgûl page. I would appreciate if you could review and correct his changes that he made to pages that relate to the First Age, as that seems to be one of primary areas of your interest and expertise (War of Wrath, Canon, First War, Dagor Bragollach, Fall of Gondolin and Balrogs). I have just finished reviewing his edit to the Farmer Maggot page. This edit was rather unnecessary and neither corrected the existing speculation about the motive of the hiss being in anger and that Maggot was angry about the trespassing in the passage nor that the sequence of events with his dog Grip and the leaving of the rider was not in chronological order. I will also review his other edits on pages that primarily relate to the Third Age (Aragorn, Witch-king, Nazgûl). Thank you for your tip for reverting several edits. I can only select two individual edits to compare all differences between those two edits and used this function in the past to check what had been changed in an edit. I did not notice that there was an "undo" button in the top right corner of the newer edits. While this method of undoing seems to undo all changes between those two edits, it does not create thet automatic summary text for the edit that it has been reverted to the last edit by a user that I have seen in reverts that were made by you or other administrators. Did I miss something or is this mass revert function something that is only available to administrators, but not to "normal" users? --[[User:Akhorahil|Akhorahil]] 14:49, 13 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:::You can select two different edits, not only the last two. Once you have the comparison, you don't need to be an admin to be able to undo it. Just play around with the circles in the list and you'll get the idea. An example of the result: https://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Morgul-knife&action=historysubmit&diff=352756&oldid=352752 --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 15:29, 13 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Large number of low quality edits of the user Dour1234 after returning from being blocked ==<br />
It seems that the block of the user Dour1234 expirted. I noticed a large number of edits by the user Dour1234. The old problems seem to persist with his edits. The sources do not seem to have been read with the proper attention creating incorrect entries. In addition, standard titles of sections such as "Other versions of the legendarium" are not used, instead "Other versions" was used. He still made a lot of micro edits on the same pages. Furthermore page numbers are missing for references where they should be included and page numbers have been included for references where they should not be included. He creates extra work for other users to review and correct his edits. I have cleaned up the worst of his recent edits. In my opinion, his edits are doing more harm than good. --[[User:Akhorahil|Akhorahil]] 16:20, 22 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:Hi! No need to write down everything done by others; I can see that, you are right and you must notice I also correct those edits. Thank you very much for your own work and for taking care of cleaning up things. We can always improve the edits of others as a way to help us each others and the wiki, so excuse me if I seem kinda permissible. Apparently Dour is gonna be out for a time. I invite you to join the Discord server, where we discuss many things, including the recent edits you complaint about. All aside, it is assumed that users are making "all reasonable efforts to include page numbers", so they can always include references without pagination, as long as they include the chapter number. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 19:16, 22 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
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::The user Dour1234 continued with further low quality edits, especially to the Mouth of Sauron and Captain of the Haven pages. Even worse, after my corrections of the edits by the user Dour1234 and of other deficiencies on those pages and after I had explicitly sated in the Summary box of my edits that I will make further corrections, the user Dour1234 again edited those pages reintroducing deficiencies. I have the impression that the user Dour1234 still has not learned basic standards after being blocked, because of past edits. In addition edits should not be done for the sake of editing, such as changes to the wording or phrasing and should not introduce speculations without disclosing that those are merely speculations. The edits of the user Dour1234 create extra work for other users to review and correct them. I recommend to block the user Dour1234. For example Dour1234 changed the name in the infobox, which is shown as a title above the infobox from The Mouth of Sauron to Mouth of Sauron. The user Dour1234 does not seem to understand English grammar related to titles (e.g. Aragorn is a name, in the chapter Strider "I am Aragorn son of Arathorn"; The Mouth of Sauron is a title, in the chapter The Black Gate Opens he says "I am the Mouth of Sauron."). So he is not just Mouth of Sauron, but the Mouth of Sauron, which is spelled "The Mouth of Sauron" in a title line above a box. Dour1234 added the title Lieutenant of the Tower, but the correct title is Lieutenant of the Tower of Barad-dûr. In addition he changed the position in the infobox to Messenger and added entry from the Index of TLOTR as a reference. As I have explained previously the index of TLOTR should not be used as a reference, because as the foreword of the index explains it was not written by J.R.R. Tolkien or by Christopher Tolkien. In addition "Messenger" is used in the text of the chapter, so the chapter can be used as a reference. Dour1234 added "He was of the Black Númenóreans strongly devoted to", which is incorrect grammar. The user Dour1234 changed "many of the Dark Lord's plans" to "much of the Dark Lord's plans". Much is used with singular uncountable nouns. Plans are plural and plans can be counted. The rest of the edit was unnecessary. In the last edit the user Dour1234 changed the othernames line in the infox from The Messenger (which is used in the published chapter) to Mordu with a reference to WR, although Mordu was already mentioned in the OVOTL with this reference and the name Mordu was abandoned by J.R.R. Tolkien and thus should not be in the infobox, but only in the OVOTL. Further he moved Lieutenant of the Tower of Barad-dûr from the position line to the titles line in the infobox and added a reference although there was already a reference for Lieutenant of the Tower of Barad-dûr in the main text of the page. In addition, he added Messenger of Mordor to the position line in the infobox, although he is referred to as the or a "Messenger" eight times and only once as "Messenger from Mordor" (simply because he comes from Mordor) in the chapter. The rest of the edit was unnecessary or introduced further speculative and unnecessary elements, such as that the Lieutenant of the Tower of Barad-dûr was an important commander in the land of Mordor and then backtracking and stating that its (the title's) associated details and duties were unknown. The first edit of the user Dour1234 to the Captain of the Haven page was unnecessary, added a reference to the non-canon Index of TLOTR and included an unnecessary explanation of the ambiguity of the term "overthrow" in a newly created OVOTL although it has nothing do do with an OVOTL, because it is used in the published text and the term "overthrew" speaks for itself and readers who are unsure of its meaning can look up the meaning in an English dictionary. The last edit of the user Dour1234's to the Captain of the Haven page linked "person" to the "Men" page although it is never said that he was a man. Like Gothmog, the Captain of the Haven could theoretically have been an Orc or of some other race, which is why I deliberately used the vague term person in my edit and did not link it to any page associated with a race. In addition it reintroduced unnecessary content, which I had removed after the user Dour1234's edit. I will revert the user Dour1234's edits. I took the time to explain it to you (yes "mucho texto"), so that you see that this is not an "edit war", but that this is about correcting problems introduced by edits and edits that lack basic thoroughness and that you can consider whether a blocking of the user Dour1234 is an appropriate course of action. --[[User:Akhorahil|Akhorahil]] ([[User talk:Akhorahil|talk]]) 10:14, 24 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:::Dour was trying to move in the info from the title's article. I agree those edits could be better and undo them was justified. However, I asked to avoid warring about it, so it would have been more appopiate if you both explained your edits before making more changes. I'm not angry, but I'll revise the article myself, keeping it protected for a while. I ask Dour to avoid touching the infoboxes until knowing how they work. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] ([[User talk:LorenzoCB|talk]]) 11:36, 24 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Gil-galad and TG:CANON ==<br />
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Hi Lorenzo, Ar-Zigûr has [[User talk:Ar-Zigûr#Gil-galad|requested]] that we discuss an issue of editorial policy here on your talk page rather than on [[Talk:Gil-galad#Parentage 2022|Talk:Gil-galad]].<br />
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[[TG:CANON]] is this: "Tolkien Gateway editors should not judge what is canon and what is not."<br />
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The various JRRT/CJRT revisions to Gil-galad's parentage makes for a highly visible stress test of this policy. Indeed, it is being used as a litmus test in the broader community to judge TG as a source of accurate information:<br />
:''"What hair colour is Gil-galad and what is his parentage? '''Tolkiengateway has answers, yet Tolkien did not decide these.'''"''<br />
:— [https://www.reddit.com/r/tolkienfans/comments/x2h3e2/comment/immq8j2/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 Reddit user DarrenGrey] (emphasis mine)<br />
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Last week, Hyarion edited the page in response to these comments. I don't think he went far enough, so I replaced all references to parentage (i.e. in the infobox and beginning of 'History' section) with links to the 'Parentage' section and explained my position on [[Talk:Gil-galad#Parentage 2022|Talk:Gil-galad]]. Ar-Zigûr reverted these without explanation. Rather than edit warring, here we are.<br />
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I believe the policy can accurately be restated as: our role is not to decide what JRRT ''meant'', only to document what he ''wrote''.<br />
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I believe it is both wrong and a violation of TG:CANON for us to give preference to any version of Gil-galad's parentage. I believe that it is especially egregious to do so in the article infobox, which necessarily lacks space for a nuanced or detailed explanation. I believe that the most accurate, most neutral, and least repetitive means of providing the reader with all the facts is to have the full story in one section with all other mentions of the subject in the article redirecting to that section. --[[Special:Contributions/Mord|Mord]] 17:08, 6 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:I think giving preference to any version is not so problematic. That sentence in TG:CANON was written when there was no OVOTL sections. All versions are explained within the article at some point, and if a random guy only checks the infobox it is not our fault (although definitely, we must be more careful with the infoboxes). Gil-galad as the son of Orodreth was cool because it allowed to explain better the High Kingship of the Noldor, but I'm ok with leaving the parentage obscure and just explain all the versions apart, but keeping the "History" section in-universe. Please, avoid edit wars in general. I left the article with Orodreth version, but I'd like to revise it properly and see what others think. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] ([[User talk:LorenzoCB|talk]]) 18:30, 6 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
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==LOTRO==<br />
It was a large project to take on to flesh out the epic story of the game and design it so that it is not an eyesore. I have a really bad habit of starting something and never finishing up on it. It is a big project to take on by myself. There is over fifteen years worth of information to try to write down. I can set aside a few hours out of the week to work on it to work on it little by little until completion. If you want to remove them and have me work on it in a "sandbox" first, I could do that. --[[User:Pinkkatie|Pinkkatie]] ([[User talk:Pinkkatie|talk]]) 15:34, 9 October 2022 (UTC)</div>Pinkkatiehttps://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=The_Eye&diff=358928The Eye2022-10-08T01:31:37Z<p>Pinkkatie: was released today</p>
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'''The Eye''' is the seventh episode of [[Amazon Studios]]'s television series, ''[[The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power]]'', released on [[7 October]], [[2022]].<br />
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== Synopsis ==<br />
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== Cast ==<br />
=== Credited ===<br />
:''In order of appearance'' (in episode credits)<br />
{| class="wikitable"<br />
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! Actor !! Role<br />
|-<br />
| [[Morfydd Clark]] || [[Galadriel]]<br />
|-<br />
| [[Tyroe Muhafidin]] || [[Theo]]<br />
|-<br />
| [[Maxim Baldry]]|| [[Isildur]]<br />
|-<br />
| [[Alex Tarrant]] || [[Valandil (The Rings of Power)|Valandil]]<br />
|-<br />
| [[Cynthia Addai-Robinson]]|| [[Tar-Míriel|Queen Regent Míriel]]<br />
|-<br />
| [[Anthony Crum]] || [[Ontamo]]<br />
|-<br />
| [[Megan Richards]] || [[Poppy Proudfellow]]<br />
|-<br />
| [[Markella Kavenagh]] || [[Elanor Brandyfoot|Elanor "Nori" Brandyfoot]]<br />
|-<br />
| [[Daniel Weyman]] || [[The Stranger]]<br />
|-<br />
| [[Sara Zwangobani]] || [[Marigold Brandyfoot]]<br />
|-<br />
| [[Beau Cassidy]] || [[Dilly Brandyfoot]]<br />
|-<br />
| [[Dylan Smith]] || [[Largo Brandyfoot]]<br />
|-<br />
| [[Lenny Henry|Sir Lenny Henry]]|| [[Sadoc Burrows]]<br />
|-<br />
| [[Thusitha Jayasundera]] || [[Malva Meadowgrass|Malva]]<br />
|-<br />
| [[Maxine Cunliffe]] || [[Vilma]]<br />
|-<br />
| [[Robert Aramayo]] || [[Elrond]]<br />
|-<br />
| [[Owain Arthur]] || [[Durin IV|Prince Durin IV]]<br />
|-<br />
| [[Peter Mullan]] || [[Durin III|King Durin III]]<br />
|-<br />
| [[Sophia Nomvete]] || [[Disa|Princess Disa]]<br />
|-<br />
| [[Lloyd Owen]] || [[Elendil|Captain Elendil]]<br />
|-<br />
| [[Nazanin Boniadi]] || [[Bronwyn]]<br />
|-<br />
| [[Ismael Cruz Córdova]] || [[Arondir]]<br />
|-<br />
| [[Charlie Vickers]] || [[Halbrand]]<br />
|-<br />
| [[Joseph Mawle]] || [[Adar (The Rings of Power)|Adar]]<br />
|-<br />
| [[Geoff Morrell]] || [[Waldreg]]<br />
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| [[James Munro]] || [[Dwarves|Dwarf Lord One]]<br />
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| [[Mike Jones]] || [[Dwarves|Dwarf Lord Two]]<br />
|-<br />
| [[Jed Brophy]] || [[Orcs|Hunter Orc]]<br />
|-<br />
| [[Robert Strange]] || [[Orcs|Other Orc]]<br />
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| [[Edith Poor]] || [[The Nomad]]<br />
|-<br />
| [[Kali Kopae]] || [[The Ascetic]]<br />
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| [[Bridie Sisson]] || [[The Dweller]]<br />
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== Trivia ==<br />
Below is a list of trivia from Amazon's "X-Ray" feature that accompanied the episode.<br />
* Scene 2 - "Most of the details and elaborations told herein are derived from '[[The Lord of the Rings]]', its prologue entitled '[[Concerning Hobbits]]', and its [[Appendices]], [[Appendix A|A]] through [[Appendix F|F]], where the intrepid traveler may journey to discover even farther horizons."<br />
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== Production ==<br />
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== Reception ==<br />
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[[fi:Eroja (jakso)]]</div>Pinkkatiehttps://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Template:Videogames&diff=358746Template:Videogames2022-10-04T14:02:46Z<p>Pinkkatie: </p>
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<div>{|style="margin: 0 auto; width: 100%;" class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed toccolours" align="center"<br />
|-<br />
! align="center" colspan="2" style="background: #CCCCFF;"|'''Licensed video games set in [[Middle-earth]]'''<br />
|-<br />
!style="font-size: 90%;" align="center" style="background: #F2F2FF;"|&nbsp;[[Melbourne House]]: <br />
|style="font-size: 90%; padding-left: 7px;"|'''''[[The Hobbit (1982 video game)|The Hobbit]]''''' ([[1982]]) · '''''[[Lord of the Rings: Game One]]''''' ([[1985]]) · '''''[[Shadows of Mordor]]''''' ([[1988]]) · '''''[[J.R.R. Tolkien's War in Middle Earth|War in Middle Earth]]''''' ([[1988]]) · '''''[[Crack of Doom Software Adventure]]''''' ([[1989]]) · '''''[[J.R.R. Tolkien's Riders of Rohan|Riders of Rohan]]''''' ([[1990]])<br />
|-<br />
!style="font-size: 90%;" align="center" style="background: #F2F2FF;"|&nbsp;[[Interplay Productions]]: <br />
|style="font-size: 90%; padding-left: 7px;"|'''''[[J.R.R. Tolkien's The Lord of the Rings, Vol. I (1990 video game)|The Lord of the Rings, Vol. I (PC)]]''''' ([[1990]]) · '''''[[J.R.R. Tolkien's The Lord of the Rings, Vol. II: The Two Towers|The Lord of the Rings, Vol. II: The Two Towers]]''''' ([[1993]]) · '''''[[J.R.R. Tolkien's The Lord of the Rings, Vol. I (SNES)|The Lord of the Rings, Vol. I (SNES)]]''''' ([[1994]])<br />
|-<br />
!style="font-size: 90%;" align="center" style="background: #F2F2FF;"|&nbsp;[[Vivendi Universal]]: <br />
|style="font-size: 90%; padding-left: 7px;"|'''''[[The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (video game)|The Fellowship of the Ring]]''''' ([[2002]]) · '''''[[The Hobbit (2003 video game)|The Hobbit]]''''' ([[2003]]) · '''''[[The Lord of the Rings: War of the Ring|War of the Ring]]''''' ([[2003]])<br />
|-<br />
!style="font-size: 90%;" align="center" style="background: #F2F2FF;"|&nbsp;[[Electronic Arts]]: <br />
|style="font-size: 90%; padding-left: 7px;"|'''''[[The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (video game)|The Two Towers]]''''' ([[2002]]) · '''''[[The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (video game)|The Return of the King]]''''' ([[2003]]) · '''''[[The Lord of the Rings: The Third Age|The Third Age]]''''' ([[2004]]) · '''''[[The Lord of the Rings: The Battle for Middle-earth|The Battle for Middle-earth]]''''' ([[2004]]) · '''''[[The Lord of the Rings: Tactics|Tactics]]''''' ([[2005]]) · '''''[[The Lord of the Rings: The Battle for Middle-earth II|The Battle for Middle-earth II]]''''' ([[2006]]) <small>(''[[The Lord of the Rings: The Battle for Middle-earth II: The Rise of the Witch-king|The Rise of the Witch-king]]'' ([[2006]]))</small> · '''''[[The Lord of the Rings: Conquest|Conquest]]''''' ([[2009]]) · '''''[[The Lord of the Rings: Heroes of Middle-earth|Heroes of Middle-earth]]''''' (TBA)<br />
|-<br />
!style="font-size: 90%;" align="center" style="background: #F2F2FF;"|&nbsp;[[Turbine]]/[[Standing Stone Games]]: <br />
|style="font-size: 90%; padding-left: 7px;"|'''''[[The Lord of the Rings Online]]: [[The Lord of the Rings Online: Shadows of Angmar|Shadows of Angmar]]''''' ([[2007]]-) <small>(''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Mines of Moria|Mines of Moria]]'' ([[2008]]) · ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Siege of Mirkwood|Siege of Mirkwood]]'' ([[2009]]) · ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Rise of Isengard|Rise of Isengard]]'' ([[2011]]) · ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Riders of Rohan|Riders of Rohan]]'' ([[2012]]) · ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Helm's Deep|Helm's Deep]]'' ([[2013]]) · ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Mordor|Mordor]]'' ([[2017]]) · ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Minas Morgul|Minas Morgul]]'' ([[2019]])) · ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: War of Three Peaks|War of Three Peaks]]'' ([[2020]]) · ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Fate of Gundabad|Fate of Gundabad]]'' ([[2021]]) · ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Before the Shadow|Before the Shadow]]'' ([[2022]])</small><br />
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!style="font-size: 90%;" align="center" style="background: #F2F2FF;"|&nbsp;[[Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment|Warner Bros]]: <br />
|style="font-size: 90%; padding-left: 7px;"|'''''[[The Lord of the Rings: Aragorn's Quest|Aragorn's Quest]]''''' ([[2010]]) · '''''[[The Lord of the Rings: War in the North|War in the North]]''''' ([[2011]]) · '''''[[Guardians of Middle-earth]]''''' ([[2012]]) · '''''[[The Hobbit: Kingdoms of Middle-earth|Kingdoms of Middle-earth]]''''' ([[2012]])· '''''[[The Hobbit: Armies of The Third Age|Armies of The Third Age]]''''' ([[2012]]) · ·'''''[[Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor|Shadow of Mordor]]''''' ([[2014]]) · '''''[[Middle-earth: Shadow of War|Shadow of War]]''''' ([[2017]]) · '''''[[The Lord of the Rings: Rise to War|Rise to War]]''''' ([[2021]]) <br />
|-<br />
!style="font-size: 90%;" align="center" style="background: #F2F2FF;"|&nbsp;Glu Games: <br />
|style="font-size: 90%; padding-left: 7px;"|'''''[[The Lord of the Rings: Middle-Earth Defense|Middle-Earth Defense]]''''' ([[2010]]) <br />
|-<br />
!style="font-size: 90%;" align="center" style="background: #F2F2FF;"|&nbsp;Traveller's Tales: <br />
|style="font-size: 90%; padding-left: 7px;"|'''''[[Lego The Lord of the Rings: The Video Game]]''''' ([[2012]]) · '''''[[Lego The Hobbit: The Video Game|Lego The Hobbit]]''''' ([[2014]])<br />
|-<br />
!style="font-size: 90%;" align="center" style="background: #F2F2FF;"|&nbsp;Daedalic Entertainment: <br />
|style="font-size: 90%; padding-left: 7px;"|'''''[[The Lord of the Rings: Gollum]]''''' ([[2022]])<br />
|-<br />
!style="font-size: 90%;" align="center" style="background: #F2F2FF;"|&nbsp;North Beach Games: <br />
|style="font-size: 90%; padding-left: 7px;"|'''''[[The Lord of the Rings: Return to Moria]]''''' ([[2023]])<br />
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</noinclude></div>Pinkkatiehttps://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Galadriel&diff=358613Galadriel2022-10-02T14:55:54Z<p>Pinkkatie: /* Portrayal in adaptations */</p>
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| name=Galadriel<br />
| image=[[File:Matt Stewart - Galadriel.jpg|250px]]<br />
| caption="Galadriel" by [[:Category:Images by Matt Stewart|Matt Stewart]]<br />
| pronun=[[Sindarin|S]], {{IPA|[ɡaˈladri.el]}}<br />
| othernames=''Artanis'' ([[Quenya|Q]], [[Father-name|fn]])<br/>''Nerwen'' ([[Quenya|Q]], [[Amilessë|mn]])<br/>''Alatáriel'' ([[Telerin|T]], [[epessë|an]])<br />
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| location=[[Eldamar]], [[Doriath]], [[Nargothrond]], [[Harlindon]], [[Eregion]], [[Imladris]], [[Belfalas]], [[Lothlórien]]<br />
| affiliation=[[White Council]]<br />
| language=[[Quenya]], [[Sindarin]], [[Westron]], and [[Silvan Elvish]]<br>Probably [[Telerin]] and [[Vanyarin]]<ref group=note>It is never explicitly told she knew these two languages, but it is sure to assume that given her [[Vanyar|Vanyarin]] and [[Teleri|Telerin]] ancestry.</ref><br />
| birth={{YT|1362}}<br />
| birthlocation=[[Eldamar]]<br />
| rule={{TA|1981}} - {{TA|3021}}<br />
| sailedwest=[[29 September]], {{TA|3021}}<br />
| sailedfrom=[[Grey Havens]]<br />
| age=8374 years<br />
| notablefor=<br />
| house=[[House of Finarfin]]<br />
| parentage=[[Finarfin]] and [[Eärwen]]<br />
| siblings=[[Finrod]], [[Angrod]] and [[Aegnor]]<br />
| spouse=[[Celeborn]]<br />
| children=[[Celebrían]]<br />
| gender=Female<br />
| height=6 feet, 4 inches (193cm)<ref>{{UT|Measures}}</ref><ref group=note>Quote by J.R.R. Tolkien from the Unfinished Tales, the same section referenced:'' "Thus two rangar was often called 'man-high', which at thirty-eight inches gives an average height of six feet four inches; (1.93 meters) '''but this was at a later date, when the stature of the Dúnedain appears to have decreased'''..."'' (emphasis mine)</ref><br />
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{{quote|Very tall [Galadriel and Celeborn] were, and the Lady no less tall than the Lord; and they were grave and beautiful. They were clad wholly in white; and the hair of the Lady was of deep gold… but no sign of age was upon them, unless it were in the depths of their eyes; for these were keen as lances in the starlight, and yet profound, the wells of deep memory.|''[[The Fellowship of the Ring]]'', "[[The Mirror of Galadriel]]"}}<br />
'''Galadriel''' was an [[Noldor|Noldorin]] Lady who witnessed [[Middle-earth]] during the Three [[Ages]]. <br />
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Galadriel was born in [[Aman]] as one of the [[Noldor]]. She was the daughter of [[Finarfin]], and younger sister to [[Finrod|Finrod Felagund]] (later [[King of Nargothrond]]), [[Angrod]], and [[Aegnor]]. She took part in the [[Exile of the Noldor]], supporting [[Fëanor]]'s rebellion. However, she opposed the [[Kinslaying at Alqualondë]] and crossed the [[Helcaraxë]] with the rest of [[Fingolfin]]'s followers. After arriving in [[Beleriand]], she lived mainly in [[Doriath]], where she befriended [[Melian]]. Later, with her husband [[Celeborn]], she ruled over the [[Silvan Elves|woodland Elves]] of [[Lothlórien]], and together they had a daughter, [[Celebrían]], who married [[Elrond]]. <br />
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She is described as "the mightiest and fairest of all the Elves that remained in [[Middle-earth]]",<ref name=Rings>{{S|Rings}}</ref> and the "greatest of Elven women".<ref>{{App|B1}}, p. 1082</ref> Throughout the Third Age it was unknown who wielded the [[Three Rings]],<ref name=Third>{{App|TA}}, pp. 1085-8</ref> but during the [[War of the Ring]], Galadriel revealed to [[Frodo Baggins]] that she was the bearer of [[Nenya]].<ref name=Mirror>{{FR|Mirror}}</ref>{{rp|365}} After the War, she returned to the [[Uttermost West]].<br />
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==History==<br />
===Elder Days===<br />
====Life in Aman====<br />
:See also: ''[[#Other versions of the legendarium|Other versions of the legendarium]]''.<br />
Galadriel was born in [[Eldamar]] in the [[Year of the Trees 1362]].<ref>{{MR|P2l}}, p. 106</ref> She was the fourth child of [[Finarfin]], prince of the [[Noldor]], who named her '''''Artanis'''''.<ref name=Finwe>{{PM|Finwe}}, pp. 346-7</ref> Her mother was [[Eärwen]], princess of the [[Falathrim|Teleri]], who named her '''''Nerwen''''' ("Man-maiden"). Galadriel grew beautiful and tall, even for the women of the Noldor, being strong of body, will, and mind, "a match for both the [[loremasters]] and the athletes of the [[Eldar]] in the days of their youth."<ref name=Case>{{PM|Case}}, pp. 337-338</ref> <br />
[[File:Marya Filatova - Galadriel.jpg|left|thumb|''Galadriel'' by [[Marya Filatova]]]]<br />
Indeed, "she was then of Amazon disposition and bound up her hair as a crown when taking part in athletic feats". This custom was the origin of her [[Sindarin]] [[Epessë|name]] '''''Galadriel''''' ("Maiden crowned with gleaming hair"),<ref name=Amazon>{{L|348}}, p. 428</ref> which was given to (and accepted by) her much later, in [[Beleriand]].<ref>{{NM|P3xvi}}, p. 352, note 8</ref> The gleaming of her hair was not a mere poetic reference: [[Hair of Galadriel|her hair]] was held a marvel unmatched. It mingled and surpassed the gold hair of her father and the starlike silver of her mother, so the Eldar said that both [[light]]s of the [[Two Trees]] were captured in her tresses. It was also said that this first gave the idea to her uncle [[Fëanor]] of capturing the merged light of the Trees, which would result in the making of the [[Silmarils]]. He asked her three times for one of her tresses, but she always refused. Fëanor and Galadriel were always unfriends, both being the greatest Eldar in Valinor; and if Fëanor was greater than her, she was wiser, and her wisdom grew with the long years. For she also had an outstanding gift to see into the minds of others, and she hated and feared the darkness in Fëanor.<ref name=Case/><br />
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There was still bliss in Valinor when she was born, but soon she was influenced by the [[Of the Silmarils and the Unrest of the Noldor|unrest of the Noldor]] and lost her inner peace ever after. She was proud, like most of the [[House of Finwë]], and like her closest brother [[Finrod]], "she had dreams of far lands and dominions that might be her own to order as she would without tutelage". But deep in herself, she had the noble spirit of the [[Vanyar]], which did not allow her to forget the reverence for the [[Valar]].<ref name=Case/><br />
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During the [[Darkening of Valinor]] and the rebellion of Fëanor, Galadriel was the only woman of the Noldor who stood among the rising princes. She swore no [[Oath of Fëanor|oath]], but the words of Fëanor concerning [[Middle-earth]] kindled a desire in her heart, as she was eager to see those wide unguarded lands and rule a realm of her own.<ref name=Flight>{{S|Flight}}</ref> Like the rest of the [[House of Finarfin]], she was also supportive of the [[Exile of the Noldor|Exile]] by the desire to aid their [[Sindar|Sindarin]] relatives in Middle-earth.<ref name=Case/> <br />
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Even though she was one of the leaders in this revolt,<ref name=RGEO>{{RGEO|Notes}}, p. 60</ref> during the troubles that followed she fought fiercely against Fëanor by defending her mother's kin during the [[Kinslaying at Alqualondë]] and the rape of the ships. Afterwards, she even desired to follow Fëanor to disturb him in all the ways that she could, but nothing could have moved her to return since she had begun her way to exile, as her pride was strong then as it was thereafter.<ref name=Case/> She kept moving forward even under the [[Doom of Mandos]], when her father Finarfin abandoned the march and returned to Valinor, and even when Fëanor left behind the hosts of Fingolfin and the children of Finarfin. Then she, along with Finrod and [[Fingolfin]] and his sons, led her people into the bitter North and crossed the terrors of [[Helcaraxë]]. After many losses, they arrived on the northern shores of the [[Outer Lands]].<ref name=Flight/><br />
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====Arrival to Middle-earth====<br />
[[File:Līga Kļaviņa - Love at First Sight.jpg|thumb|''Love at First Sight'' by [[:Category:Images by Līga Kļaviņa|Līga Kļaviņa]]]]<br />
Once in [[Beleriand]], those of the House of Finarfin were eager to enter [[Doriath]], but King [[Elu Thingol]] received the Noldor coldly, and only allowed entrance to those invited by him after some inquiries.<ref name=Return>{{S|13}}</ref> Finally in {{FA|52}},<ref>{{GA|74}}</ref> Finrod and Galadriel became long guests in Doriath, but her brother eventually departed to the [[Caverns of Narog]] to establish the stronghold of [[Nargothrond]]. Galadriel did not go with him, and remained in Doriath with [[Celeborn]], a kinsman of Thingol, as there was great love between them.<ref name=Noldor>{{S|15}}</ref> Despite their love, they did not marry each other, following the [[Elven life cycle|custom among the Eldar]] of avoiding marriage and child-bearing during the war,<ref name=Scales>{{NM|P1ix}}, pp. 65-66</ref> but they were eventually betrothed till the war ended.<ref name=Ages>{{NM|P1xviii}}, p. 149</ref> Meanwhile, she dwelt with Queen [[Melian]], from whom she learned much of the wisdom of Middle-earth.<ref name=Return/><br />
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The Western Corn necessary to make [[lembas]] had been lost in Beleriand until the Noldor brought new grain back, and it flourished by the grace of the Valar. Galadriel was one of the main inheritors of it and of the art of the making of lembas.<ref>{{NM|P3iv}}, p. 296</ref> It is safe to assume Melian benefited from this.<br />
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Years passed in Doriath, and Galadriel became dear to Melian, and they spoke often to one another about Valinor. Melian was eager to learn the causes of the [[Exile of the Noldor]], but Galadriel would tell her nothing of what occurred after the death of the Trees. In the year {{FA|66|n}},<ref>{{GA|91}}</ref> Melian asked her directly about this, and Galadriel revealed the story of the [[Silmarils]] and how the Noldor fled from Aman against the will of the Valar, though she still left out the Oath of Fëanor, the Kinslaying, and the burning of the Ships at [[Losgar]]. Melian was able to discern a darkness that was left unsaid, but Galadriel refused to tell her more. Thus, Thingol became concerned regarding the Noldor, and he was informed soon afterwards of the Noldor's dark deeds in Aman, and it chanced that the children of Finarfin were visiting Galadriel in Doriath. Egged on by his accusing words, [[Angrod]] told everything, and Galadriel's brothers departed heavy-hearted.<ref name=Noldor/><br />
[[File:Ten Thousand Leaves - Galadriel and Melian.jpeg|thumb|left|''Galadriel and Melian'' by [[:Category:Images by Ten Thousand Leaves|Ten Thousand Leaves]]]]<br />
Despite all this, Galadriel stayed in Doriath until {{FA|102|n}},<ref>{{GA|108}}</ref> when the kingdom of [[Nargothrond]] was finished and a feast was held for all the children of Finarfin. She dwelt for a while in Nargothrond, and in this time she asked Finrod why he remained unmarried. Her brother answered with dark [[foresight]]s about his kingdom.<ref name=Noldor/> Back in Doriath, in {{FA|420|n}},<ref>{{GA|129}}</ref> Galadriel heard another foretelling, as Melian told her about [[Beren|a Man]] who shall cross into Doriath moved by a doom greater than the [[Girdle of Melian]].<ref>{{S|17}}</ref><br />
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Galadriel did not have any significant role in the general course of events in the [[War of the Jewels]], but she might have been well informed of the deaths of her brothers [[Angrod]] and [[Aegnor]] during the [[Dagor Bragollach]]; and of Finrod's, while he was held in captivity by [[Sauron]] in the year {{FA|465|n}}.<ref>{{GA|198-199}}</ref> At some point before the [[Fall of Nargothrond]] in {{FA|495|n}},<ref>{{GA|275}}</ref> she and Celeborn passed over [[Blue Mountains|the mountains]]<ref name=Mirror/>{{rp|357}} to [[Eriador]], far from the turmoil of the last years of the [[First Age]].<br />
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After the [[War of Wrath]] at the end of the [[First Age]], [[Eönwë]], herald of [[Manwë]], summoned the [[Elves of Beleriand]] to the West, so they were received in [[Tol Eressëa]] and under the pardon of the Valar. However, some did not wish to leave Middle-earth, such as Celeborn.<ref name=Earendil>{{S|24}}</ref> Being one of the chief leaders of the Noldorin rebellion, Galadriel was not allowed to return<ref>{{L|297}}, p. 386</ref> and a ban was set upon her, to which she replied that she had no wish to do so.<ref name=RGEO/> The same pride that led her out of Aman still moved her, and she rejected the pardon of the Valar,<ref name=Case/> for as she had once lived in Aman itself, Eressëa seemed only a "second best". She was also moved by love for Celeborn, to whom she probably married around this time.<ref name=Scales/><ref group=note>The marriage of Galadriel and Celeborn, as well as when they crossed over the mountains, was not clearly defined by Tolkien.</ref><br />
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===Second Age===<br />
[[File:Ted Nasmith - Galadriel and Celeborn at Lake Evendim.jpg|thumb|''Galadriel and Celeborn at Lake Evendim'' by [[Ted Nasmith]]]]<br />
At the beginning of the Second Age, Celeborn and Galadriel dwelt for a time in [[Lindon]], south of the [[Lune]], while [[Gil-galad]] ruled in the north.<ref name=Second>{{App|B1}}, pp. 1082-4</ref> Both left Lindon before the years 10-20, when [[Gil-galad]] became king in that land, apparently thanks to her influence.<ref>{{NM|P1xi}}, p. 81</ref> They entered [[Eriador]] and dwelt for a while around [[Lake Nenuial]], being followed by many Noldor, [[Grey-elves]] and [[Green-elves]]. They were considered the Lord and Lady of the Eldar in Eriador.<ref name=Concerning>{{UT|Concerning}}</ref>{{rp|234}} Probably around {{SA|300}},<ref group=note>The birth-year of Celebrían was not well defined by Tolkien.</ref> Galadriel and Celeborn had a daughter: [[Celebrían]].<ref name=Scales/><br />
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Circa the year {{SA|500|n}}, [[Sauron]] began to stir in Middle-earth again,<ref name=Second/> but his name was not known. He was, however, perceived by Galadriel, who noticed there was a controlling evil, and that it was spreading above the world, coming from the East beyond the [[Misty Mountains]]. She also thought this 'residue of evil' could only be fought with an alliance of all its enemies. Therefore, she and Celeborn moved eastwards and established the realm of [[Eregion]] near [[Khazad-dûm]]. Celeborn was not fond of [[Dwarves]], but she saw the importance of getting close to them, for she saw military interests even with them. Also, she was a Noldo, and therefore close to them in mind and in the passion for crafts; and in Valinor she had learned from [[Yavanna]] and [[Aulë]], the creator of the Dwarves himself.<ref name=Concerning/>{{rp|235}} <br />
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Some Noldor were also interested in establishing a realm near Khazad-dûm because they knew [[mithril]] had been discovered there. Therefore, many Elven-smiths came to Eregion and created good relations with the Dwarves. [[Celebrimbor]], a descendant of [[Fëanor]] (and therefore a distant cousin of Galadriel), was the greatest of the craft-men and the Lord of Eregion.<ref name=Second/> He was its main builder and in {{SA|750|n}} [[Ost-in-Edhil]], the main city of the realm, was begun. The power of Galadriel and Celeborn also grew: thanks to the Dwarves of Khazad-dûm, they had contact with the [[Nandor|Nandorin]] realm of [[Lórinand]], on the other side of the Misty Mountains. Thanks to Galadriel's influence upon Lórinand, Sauron's machinations there were fruitless.<ref name=Concerning/>{{rp|236}} She also got in contact with [[Númenor]], having a meeting with King [[Aldarion]] when he came to [[Tharbad]] around {{SA|883|n}}-884.<ref>{{UT|4}}, ''The further course of the narrative'', pp. 205-6</ref><br />
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About the year {{SA|1200|n}}, Sauron came in disguise to Eriador, but he was only welcomed in Eregion by Celebrimbor and the Elven-smiths, who were interested in his advice on craftsmanship.<ref name=Concerning/>{{rp|236}} Galadriel was not deceived, and rejected him, saying that he was not in the training of Aulë as he claimed.<ref>{{UT|Galadriel}}, "Notes", p. 254, note 7</ref> "He perceived at once that Galadriel would be his chief adversary and obstacle, and he endeavoured therefore to placate her, bearing her scorn with outward patience and courtesy". At the same time, without her knowledge, Sauron influenced Celebrimbor and his [[Gwaith-i-Mírdain]] against Galadriel and Celeborn. Finally, he moved them to rebellion and they seized the power of Eregion at some time between {{SA|1350|n}} and 1400. Thus, Galadriel and Celebrían left through Khazad-dûm to Lórinand, although Celeborn would not enter the Dwarvish realm and remained in Eregion.<ref name=Concerning/>{{rp|237}}<br />
[[File:Ebe Kastein - Galadriel and Celebrian.jpg|thumb|''Galadriel and Celebrían'' by [[:Category:Images by Ebe Kastein|Ebe Kastein]]]]<br />
When Sauron made [[the One Ring]] in {{SA|1600}}, his treachery was discovered by Celebrimbor.<ref name=Second/> The elven-smith came to Lórinand, seeking counsel from Galadriel. They did not find the strength to destroy the [[Rings of Power]], but she advised him to hide the [[Three Rings]] of the Elves where Sauron could not find them. Therefore he gave her [[Nenya]], the White Ring, and the other Rings were given to other Elven lords.<ref name=Concerning/>{{rp|237}} This was done in {{SA|1693|n}}, the same year Sauron began [[War of the Elves and Sauron|the war against the Elves]].<ref name=Second/><br />
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With the invasion of Eriador, [[Sack of Eregion|Eregion was destroyed]] and Celebrimbor killed. Despite using torture, Sauron could not learn from him where the Elven Rings were, but suspected they were kept by Galadriel and Gil-galad.<ref name=Concerning/>{{rp|238}} But thanks to the military intervention of [[Númenor]], Sauron was defeated in {{SA|1700|n}}.<ref name=Second/> Soon afterwards, Galadriel was affected by [[sea-longing]], and she decided to leave Lórinand and dwell beside the sea.<ref name=Concerning/>{{rp|240}} As one of the [[High-elves]], her yearning for the sea was unavoidable, and now she became burdened with the desire to cross to the Blessed Realm, but the ban upon her impeded it.<ref name=RGEO/> Thus she did not go to the sea yet, but crossed west of the mountains through Khazad-dûm with Celebrían. Seeking Celeborn, they travelled to [[Imladris]], a refuge created by [[Elrond]] during the war. Once there, a [[White Council|Council]] was held, in which it was decided that Imladris would be the Elvish stronghold in the East, rather than the desolate Eregion.<ref name=Concerning/>{{rp|239-40}}<br />
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Galadriel, Celeborn and Celebrían dwelt a long time in Imladris, but at some point they left and moved near the sea, to [[Belfalas]], at the place later known as [[Dol Amroth]]. There were few inhabitants there, but they were visited by Nandorin companies.<ref name=Concerning/>{{rp|238}} Apparently, they returned to Lórien twice before the [[Last Alliance]] and the end of the Second Age,<ref name=Amroth>{{UT|Amroth}}, pp. 243-5</ref> but of their whereabouts during the final millenia of that Age nothing else is known.<br />
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===Third Age===<br />
====Rule in Lórien====<br />
In early [[Third Age]], in the year {{TA|109|n}}, Galadriel and Celeborn's daughter [[Celebrían]] wedded [[Elrond]] the [[Half-elven]].<ref name=Third/> But they did not stay at first with her, for Galadriel was filled with [[Foresight|foreboding]], and was concerned about the growing shadow in [[Mirkwood]] and [[Dol Guldur]]. Therefore she and Celeborn made long journeys investigating [[Rhovanion]], going from [[Gondor]] and the borders of [[Mordor]] to [[Thranduil]] in the north. They also stayed a long time in Lórien with king [[Amroth]], for Galadriel saw with her wisdom that this prosperous realm could be a stronghold against the growing Shadow, if it had better rule.<ref name=Amroth/> At this point, the [[Istari]] arrived in Middle-earth, and only Galadriel, Elrond and [[Círdan]] knew [[Valinor|where]] they came from.<ref name=Rings/> Around the year {{TA|1100|n}}, the [[Wise]] (including Galadriel as one the chief Eldar) were well aware of the evil dwelling in Dol Guldur, but thought it was one of the [[Nazgûl]].<ref name=Third/><br />
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After their enquiries, Galadriel and Celeborn passed over the mountains to Imladris, and there dwelt for many years with their kin.<ref name=Amroth/><br />
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Between the years {{TA|1980}}-{{TA|1981|n}}, [[Durin's Bane|a terror]] appeared in Khazad-dûm and the Dwarves abandoned the realm, while the many Silvan Elves from Lórien had to flee south.<ref name=Third/> To make things worse, Amroth was lost, leaving no heir, and the Elven realm was left without a ruler. Therefore Celeborn and Galadriel went there, welcomed by the people, and took up the rule jointly, but refused to take the [[King of Lórien|royal title]] and were called the [[Lord and Lady of Galadhrim]]. Saving the realm from the perils of the moment, they dwelt and ruled permanently there.<ref name=Amroth/><br />
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As the shadow of Dol Guldur grew again, the [[White Council]] was formed in {{TA|2463|n}}.<ref name=Third/> It was summoned by Galadriel,<ref>{{FR|II7}}, p. 357</ref> who, being a good friend of [[Gandalf]], recommended that he be made head of the Council. But this distinction fell instead to [[Saruman]].<ref name=Rings/> <br />
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In {{TA|2510|n}}, her daughter Celebrían departed to the West after being wounded by Orcs.<ref name=Third/> The same year, she aided [[Eorl]] and his [[Rohirrim|riders]] in the [[Battle of the Field of Celebrant]], creating a white mist that drove out the shadows from Dol Guldur.<ref>{{UT|8b}}, pp. 298-9</ref><br />
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The White Council would not take action until Gandalf discovered that the shadow growing in Dol Guldur was [[Sauron]]. After deliberating, the Council joined forces and drove Sauron out of Dol Guldur in {{TA|2941|n}}.<ref name=Third/><br />
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Some years later, [[Aragorn]] entered Lothlórien after many travels, and was admitted by Galadriel. She bade him change his worn-out clothes and dressed him like a proper prince. At that time, Aragorn became betrothed to her granddaughter [[Arwen]].<ref>{{App|A1v}}, p. 1060</ref><br />
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====War of the Ring====<br />
[[File:Ralph Damiani - The Trial.png|thumb|right|''The Trial'' by [[:Category:Images by Ralph Damiani|Ralph Damiani]]]]<br />
Galadriel and Celeborn were well informed about the [[Company of the Ring]], its members and their mission, before its coming to Lothlórien, perhaps informed by messages from Rivendell.<ref>{{FR|II6}}, p. 350</ref> In the evening of [[17 January]] of {{TA|3019}}, the Company arrived at [[Caras Galadhon]].<ref name=Great>{{App|B3}}, pp. 1092-4</ref> Coming to the [[talan]] of the Lady and Lord, each member was greeted by name by Celeborn. Noticing that Gandalf was missing, Galadriel asked where he was, for she wished to speak with him. Hearing that they had encountered [[Durin's Bane]] and that this was in fact a [[Balrog]] from ancient times, Celeborn criticized the passing of the Company through Moria. However, Galadriel was more sympathetic, especially towards [[Gimli]], who bowed to her in respect. Before inviting the members of the Company to rest and heal there, she looked deep into their eyes and they all felt their hearts exposed.<ref name=Mirror/>{{rp|354-7}}<br />
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A month later, in [[15 February]],<ref name=Great/> [[Frodo Baggins]] the [[Ringbearer|bearer of the One Ring]], was walking in the evening with [[Sam]] when they encountered Galadriel. She led them to an enclosed garden and showed them a silver basin. Filling it with water, a [[Mirror of Galadriel|Mirror]] was formed, which allowed them to see things that were and that might come. Frodo saw the [[Eye of Sauron]], and she explained that she knew well Frodo's mind, for Sauron also tried to look into hers. She also [[Keepers of the Three Rings|kept]] a [[Ring of Power]], and showing him [[Nenya]], the Ring of Adamant, she explained that its power would disappear once Frodo destroyed the One, and Lórien would fade. Then Frodo offered the One Ring to her, and she laughed in response, saying: "''I do not deny that my heart has greatly desired to ask what you offer.''" Then she began to ponder how powerful she would become with the Ring's power, and from Nenya came a great light that covered her overwhelming height. But the light faded and she laughed again, saying: "''I pass the test. I will diminish, and go into the West, and remain Galadriel''."<ref name=Mirror/>{{rp|360-6}} Indeed, with this rejection of temptation and her long opposition against Sauron, the ban upon her return to Aman was finally lifted.<ref name=RGEO/><br />
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That night, the Lord and Lady summoned the Company and spoke of their departure, which was appointed for the following morning. The next day, she sent the Fellowship off on their Quest, furnished with [[Gifts of Galadriel|gifts]] for all the members, including [[lembas]] and [[Elven cloaks]]. Later, a farewell party was held, which the Lord and Lady attended in a [[Swan-ships|swan boat]]; from it, Galadriel sang [[Galadriel's Song of Eldamar|a song about Eldamar]]. After everyone ate and drank, she proceed to give [[Gifts of Galadriel|specific gifts]] to each member.<ref name=Farewell>{{FR|II8}}, pp. 367-378</ref><br />
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Among the gifts was the [[Elfstone]], which she gave to Aragorn from Arwen "''as a token of hope''".<ref name=Farewell/> The jewel was also in part a bridal gift and a token of the future wedding of Arwen and Aragorn, done following the [[Laws and Customs among the Eldar|Noldorin custom]] in which the bride's mother should give to the bridegroom a jewel (Arwen's mother Celebrían had departed long ago, so Galadriel did it in her place).<ref>{{MR|P3II3}}, p. 211</ref> Galadriel stated she was unsure as to what to give Gimli, and asked what he wanted. After complimenting her beauty, he requested a single strand of [[Hair of Galadriel|her hair]]. Instead, she rewarded him with three strands, which he promised to put into an imperishable crystal in memory of her. And last, to Frodo, she gave a [[Phial of Galadriel|a small crystal phial]] specially prepared by her, which contained the [[Light of Valinor|light]] of the [[star of Eärendil]].<ref name=Farewell/><br />
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The Company saw her one last time while sailing down to the [[Anduin]]: a shining figure, all clad in white, raising her arms, and Frodo was able to hear her clearly reciting [[Namárië|a long poem in Elvish]] despite the distance.<ref name=Farewell/><br />
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On [[17 February|the following day]], a resurrected Gandalf was brought to Lórien by [[Gwaihir]],<ref name=Great/> who was sent by Galadriel. He was received in Caras Galadhon, and was healed and clothed in white. He also took and gave counsel. Before he left, Galadriel gave him [[Galadriel's messages|some prophetic messages]] for Aragorn, [[Legolas]] and Gimli.<ref>{{TT|III5}}, pp. 502-3</ref><br />
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The land of Lórien was not exempt from the battles of the [[War of the Ring]]: between [[11 March|11]] and [[18 March]], the [[Galadhrim]] suffered [[assaults on Lothlórien|three assaults]] from Dol Guldur.<ref name=Great/> After the [[Fall of Barad-dûr]], Celeborn crossed the Anduin with a host and began the [[Fall of Dol Guldur|destruction of Dol Guldur]].<ref name=Chief>{{App|B4}}, pp. 1095-6</ref> Soon afterward, Galadriel threw down the walls of the fortress and opened its pits.<ref name=Great/><br />
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[[File:Victoria Clare - On the Road to the Grey Havens.jpg|thumb|''On the Road to the Grey Havens'' by [[:Category:Images by Victoria Clare|Victoria Clare]]]]<br />
Galadriel, Celeborn and their company attended the wedding of Aragorn and Arwen, and soon afterward they joined the crowded funeral riding of King [[Théoden]] to [[Rohan]]. After the funerals in the [[Golden Hall]], they continued their travel northwards with other companions and halted in [[Isengard]]. There they encountered [[Saruman]], who, released by [[Fangorn]], snapped that she always had hated him, and now he would find comfort knowing that her realm was destroyed as well as his.<ref>{{RK|VI6}}, pp. 976, 983, 985</ref><br />
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Two years later, on [[22 September]] {{TA|3021|n}},<ref name=Chief/> Frodo and Sam encountered a [[Wandering Companies|Wandering Company]] while travelling around [[the Shire]], and found that Elrond, Galadriel and [[Bilbo]] were part of it. Nenya was visible on Galadriel's finger, and she seemed to shine like the moon. Frodo decided to depart with them and the hobbits joined the company, led by Elrond and Galadriel.<ref name=Havens>{{RK|VI9}}, pp. 1027-30</ref> On [[29 September]], they reached the [[Grey Havens]] and departed over the Sea. Thus ended the [[Third Age]].<ref name=Chief/><br />
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Sometime later during the [[Fourth Age]], she received Celeborn, her husband.<ref>{{FR|Prologue}}, pp. 15-16</ref> And in {{FoA|120}},<ref>{{App|B5}}, p. 1098</ref> it is said that [[Gimli]] went to the West out of his desire to see Galadriel again. He may have been allowed thanks to her intervention.<ref>{{App|A3}}, p. 1081</ref><br />
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==Etymology==<br />
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''Galadriel'' is a [[Sindarin]] name translated by [[J.R.R. Tolkien|Tolkien]] as "maiden crowned with a garland of bright radiance",<ref name=Finwe/> "Maiden crowned with gleaming hair",<ref name=Amazon></ref> "glittering garland",<ref>{{L|345}}, p. 423</ref> and "maiden crowned with a radiant garland".<ref name=SApp>{{S|Appendix}}, ''kal-''</ref><ref>{{HM|RC}}, pp. 44-45</ref> ''Galadriel'' consists of ''[[galad]]'' ("light, radiance") + ''[[rî]]'' ("crown").<ref name=Finwe/> It was an [[epessë]] given to her in her youth because, while doing exercise, she usually bound up her long golden hair as a crown.<ref name=Amazon>{{L|348}}, p. 428</ref><br />
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Tolkien notes that the element ''galad'' had no relation to Sindarin ''[[galadh]]'' or [[Silvan]] ''galað'' ("tree").<ref name=SApp/><ref>{{MR|P3I5}}, p. 182 (commentary to §42)</ref> Due to this coincidence the name ''Galadriel'' was occasionally rendered as '''''Galadhriel''''', as Tolkien explains:<br />
{{blockquote|When Celeborn and Galadriel became the rulers of the <nowiki>[</nowiki>[[Galadhrim]]<nowiki>]</nowiki>, the name of Galadriel became associated with trees, an association that was aided by the name of her husband, which also appeared to contain a tree-word; so that outside [[Lórien]] among those whose memories of the ancient days and Galadriel's history had grown dim her name was often altered to 'Galadhriel', though never in Lórien itself.<ref>{{UT|6e}}, p. 267</ref>}}<br />
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==Other names==<br />
At the time of her birth, [[Finarfin]] named his only daughter '''''Artanis'''''. Her [[father-name]] meant "Noble Woman" in [[Quenya]], from ''[[arta]]'' + ''[[nís]]''.<ref name=Finwe/><br />
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Due to Artanis's height and her great strength of body and will, Eärwen chose the [[Quenya]] name '''''Nerwen''''', meaning "man-maiden".<ref name=Case/><br />
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'''''Alatáriel''''' was the [[Telerin]] name given to Galadriel by [[Celeborn]], meaning "Maiden Crowned with Radiant Garland", which referred to her hair.<ref name=Finwe/> The Quenya form of this name was '''''Altáriel''''', although the proper form would have been '''''Ñaltariel'''''. Its [[Sindarin]] cognate '''''Galadriel''''' was chosen by her to be her Sindarin name, because it was the most beautiful of her names and had been given to her as an [[epessë]] by her lover, Teleporno of the Teleri, whom she wedded later in Beleriand.<ref name=Finwe/><ref group="note">''Teleporno'' was the Teleri-styled named for Lord Celeborn: "It is only of course in the late version that Celeborn appears with a High-elven, rather than Sindarin, name: ''Teleporno''", {{UT|6e}}, p. 266</ref><br />
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== Genealogy ==<br />
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==Other versions of the legendarium==<br />
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There is a bit of confusion in the story of Galadriel, which [[J.R.R. Tolkien]] revised multiple times. Some of the points that were revised often are the role of Galadriel in the rebellion of the Noldor, the reason why she remained in Middle-earth, and the time at which she met Celeborn.<br />
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In the notes to ''[[The Road Goes Ever On (book)|The Road Goes Ever On]]'' and in the published ''[[The Silmarillion|Silmarillion]]'', Galadriel was one of the leaders of the revolt and followed Fëanor into Exile.<ref name=RGEO/> She could not return to Valinor because a ban was set against her, and in Doriath she met Celeborn, who was one of the Sindar. This is the only version of her story that was published by Tolkien during his lifetime.<br />
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However, there are two late essays written by Tolkien after ''The Road Goes Ever On'' and published in ''Unfinished Tales'' that contradict this. In one of them, though Galadriel revolts along with the other Noldor, she is offered the pardon of the Valar, but refuses to return to Aman nonetheless.<br />
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In the other, later essay (dated by Christopher Tolkien to probably the last few months of his father's life), Galadriel has no participation at all in the rebellion of the Noldor, but sails on her own ship to Middle-earth. She would have been allowed to sail to Middle-earth by the Valar under normal conditions, but since she did it during the disturbance of Valinor, she fell under the Doom of Mandos all the same.<br />
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In both essays, she met Celeborn in Aman. He was called in Quenya ''Teleporno'', and was a young Telerin prince, probably the son or grandson of [[Olwë]] (which would make him Galadriel's uncle or cousin). They eventually fell in love, and he called her in his own Telerin tongue [[Alatáriel]] (later [[Sindarization|Sindarinized]] as Galadriel and semi-[[Quenya|Quenyarized]] as [[Altáriel]]).<br />
It is unknown whether Tolkien would have gone ahead with this revision (possibly making a new edition of ''The Road Goes Ever On''), or if he would have felt bound by the published version.<br />
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Another point that was revised was the time at which Galadriel passed over the mountains of Ered Luin to enter Eriador. In ''The Fellowship of the Ring'', she says that she passed over the mountains before the fall of Nargothrond and [[Gondolin]], yet in ''[[Appendix B]]'' of ''The Lord of the Rings'' it is stated that at the beginning of the Second Age she was still dwelling in Lindon, before passing over the mountains. This contradiction in the same work must have been due to a mistake during revision.<br />
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Besides this, the earlier version of the story of Amroth, given in ''[[Unfinished Tales]]'', says that Galadriel and Celeborn had two children, of which one was [[Amroth]].<ref name=Concerning/><br />
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==Portrayal in adaptations==<br />
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|File:The Lord of the Rings (1978 film) - Galadriel.jpg|Galadriel as portrayed in [[The Lord of the Rings (1978 film)|''The Lord of the Rings'' (1978 film)]]<br />
|File:The Lord of the Rings (film series) - Galadriel.jpg|[[Cate Blanchett]] as Galadriel in [[The Lord of the Rings (film series)|''The Lord of the Rings'' (film series)]]<br />
|File:The Lord of the Rings - The Fellowship of the Ring (video game) - Galadriel.JPG|Galadriel as portrayed in Vivendi's ''[[The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (video game)|The Fellowship of the Ring]]''<br />
|File:The Lord of the Rings Online - Galadriel.jpg|Galadriel in ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online]]''<br />
|File:The Hobbit - An Unexpected Journey - Galadriel.jpg|[[Cate Blanchett]] as Galadriel in [[The Hobbit (film series)|''The Hobbit'' (film series)]]<br />
|File:Shadow of Mordor - Galadriel.png|Galadriel as portrayed in ''[[Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor]]''<br />
|File:The Rings of Power - Galadriel.jpg|[[Morfydd Clark]] as Galadriel in ''[[The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power]]''<br />
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===Films===<br />
'''1978: [[The Lord of the Rings (1978 film)|''The Lord of the Rings'' (1978 film)]]:'''<br />
:Galadriel is voiced by [[Annette Crosbie]].<br />
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'''2001: ''[[The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring]]'':'''<br />
:Galadriel is played by [[Cate Blanchett]]. Galadriel narrates the Prologue, explaining the creation of the Rings of Power and the War of the Last Alliance. Earlier plans considered were to have either Frodo or Gandalf narrate the Prologue, but this was dropped: Frodo was not alive until thousands of years after these events happened, and although Gandalf was alive, he was not present in Middle-earth at the time; the Wizards came some one thousand years after the Prologue ends. Thus Galadriel narrates the Prologue, because she had first-hand accounts of this history and actively participated in its events.<br />
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'''2002: ''[[The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers]]'':'''<br />
:Galadriel frequently consults telepathically with Elrond; there is an indication from the books{{fact}} that the two were able to communicate in some way, without specific reference. In the film, unlike the book, [[Galadriel]] and [[Elrond]] send an army of [[Elves]] - led by [[Haldir]] - to [[Battle of the Hornburg|Helm's Deep]] to aid the [[Rohirrim]]. In the DVD commentary, [[Peter Jackson]] and his fellow writers explain that they worried audiences would wonder why the Elves don't seem to be helping in the war, while at the same time, they felt that actually inserting an entire separate battle scene at Lothlórien would take up too much screen time and resources.<br />
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'''2003: ''[[The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King]]'':'''<br />
:A spiritual apparition of Lady Galadriel appears to provide Frodo strength following his passage through Shelob's Lair soon after he uses the Phial that she gave him. She is later seen leaving Middle-earth along with other Ring-Bearers, but in film version her husband Celeborn departs with her at the same time.<br />
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'''2012-14: [[The Hobbit (film series)|''The Hobbit'' (film series)]]:'''<br />
:Cate Blanchett reprised her role as Galadriel, although the character is absent from the novel.<ref name="PJCasting">{{webcite|author=[[Peter Jackson]]|articleurl=http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150168211921558|articlename=Production begins in New Zealand on The Hobbit|dated=20-March-2011|website=[http://www.facebook.com/ Facebook]|accessed=23-Dec-2011}}</ref> She appears as part of the [[White Council]] alongside [[Saruman]], [[Gandalf]] and [[Elrond]]. Later, she telepathically urges Gandalf to further seek the true identity of the [[Sauron#Sauron's Return|Necromancer]]. Finally, during the [[attack on Dol Guldur]], Galadriel plays a larger role. She first rescues Gandalf from captivity, and is ultimately the one to drive Sauron from the fortress using her [[Phial of Galadriel|phial]].<br />
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===Television===<br />
'''1993: [[Hobitit]]:'''<br />
:Galadriel is portrayed by [[Heidi Krohn]]. She appears only in the episode ''Lórien'', and she is featured as a reflection on the surface of the lake.<br />
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'''2022: [[The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power]]:'''<br />
:Galadriel is portrayed by [[Morfydd Clark]] as one of the central characters of the series.<ref>{{webcite|author=Alice Jones|articleurl=https://inews.co.uk/culture//film/morfydd-clark-saint-maud-baftas-lord-of-the-rings-946160|articlename=Morfydd Clark on Saint Maud and Lord of the Rings: ‘I am so frightened of loneliness’<br />
|dated=10-August-2021|website=[https://inews.co.uk inews.co.uk]|accessed=07-April-2021}}</ref><ref>{{webcite|author=Justin Kroll|articleurl=https://variety.com/2019/tv/news/lord-of-the-rings-series-galadriel-morfydd-clark-1203446284/ |articlename='Lord of the Rings' Series Taps Morfydd Clark as Young Galadriel (EXCLUSIVE)|dated=10-August-2021|website=[https://variety..com Variety]|accessed=17-December-2019}}</ref> Lady [[Amelie Child Villiers]] portrays Galadriel in [[A Shadow of the Past|Episode 1]] as a child.<ref>{{webcite|author=|articleurl=https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9788618/fullcredits|articlename=Full Cast & Crew|dated=|website=IMDB|accessed=2 September 2022}}</ref><br />
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===Radio series===<br />
'''1981: [[The Lord of the Rings (1981 radio series)|''The Lord of the Rings'' (1981 radio series)]]:'''<br />
:The voice of Galadriel is provided by [[Marian Diamond]]. In addition to the Lothlórien episodes, the voice of Galadriel is heard in Shelob's Lair as a reminder to use the phial, and she appears with Elrond in the final episode in the Shire, as they journey towards the Grey Havens.<br />
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'''2001-2003: [[Pán prsteňov (2001-2003 Slovak radio series)|''Pán prsteňov'' (2001-2003 Slovak radio series)]]:'''<br />
:The voice of Galadriel is provided by Soňa Norisová. Norisová also provides most of the singing in the series (including the opening and closing titles theme and series closing song), alluding to Galadriel being a secondary storyteller (with Bilbo Baggins serving as the series' primary storyteller).<br />
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===Games===<br />
'''2002: [[The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (video game)|''The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring'' (video game)]]:'''<br />
:Galadriel, voiced by [[Jennifer Hale]], is the narrator of the Prologue and the Epilogue, and appears in Lothlórien.<br />
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'''2006: ''[[The Lord of the Rings: The Battle for Middle-earth II]]'':'''<br />
:Galadriel is the strongest of "Hero" units available to the Free Peoples. If a player's army manages to spot [[Gollum]] on the battlefield, take The One Ring from him and deliver it to their forces, the option to "summon" Galadriel unlocks for a large amount of resources. Thus, Lady Galadriel is represented as succumbing to corruption of The Ring, similar to the respective scene in the ''[[The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring]]'' movie.<br />
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'''2007: ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online]]'':'''<br />
:Introduced in ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Mines of Moria]]'', Galadriel plays a prominent role during the Epic storyline with guidance and support. During the final days of the [[War of the Ring]], Galadriel assembles the Council of Elven Lords, where it is decided to bring their armies against [[Dol Guldur]]. After she brings down the walls of Dol Guldur, Galadriel accompanies Arwen on her journey south to her wedding, and they visit the site of [[Celebrian]]'s captivity in the [[Misty Mountains]] together. Afterwards, she and Celeborn join the procession of [[Elrond]]'s house and travel to [[Minas Tirith]] to attend the wedding of Arwen and Aragorn.<br />
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'''2014: [[Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor]]:'''<br />
:Galadriel is featured in the game, although she is a non-playable character. She is voiced by [[Jennifer Hale]] and she narrates the prologue in a showing of the game.<br />
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'''2017: [[Middle-earth: Shadow of War]]:'''<br />
:Galadriel is featured in the game, although she is a non-playable character, with [[Jennifer Hale]] reprising her role from the game.<br />
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| name=Galadriel<br />
| image=[[File:Matt Stewart - Galadriel.jpg|250px]]<br />
| caption="Galadriel" by [[:Category:Images by Matt Stewart|Matt Stewart]]<br />
| pronun=[[Sindarin|S]], {{IPA|[ɡaˈladri.el]}}<br />
| othernames=''Artanis'' ([[Quenya|Q]], [[Father-name|fn]])<br/>''Nerwen'' ([[Quenya|Q]], [[Amilessë|mn]])<br/>''Alatáriel'' ([[Telerin|T]], [[epessë|an]])<br />
| titles=[[Lady of Lórien]], Lady of Light, Lady of the Wood, Lady of the [[Galadhrim]], Mistress of Magic<ref>Called thus by [[Faramir (son of Denethor II)|Faramir]] ({{TT|Window}}).</ref><br />
| position=<br />
| location=[[Eldamar]], [[Doriath]], [[Nargothrond]], [[Harlindon]], [[Eregion]], [[Imladris]], [[Belfalas]], [[Lothlórien]]<br />
| affiliation=[[White Council]]<br />
| language=[[Quenya]], [[Sindarin]], [[Westron]], and [[Silvan Elvish]]<br>Probably [[Telerin]] and [[Vanyarin]]<ref group=note>It is never explicitly told she knew these two languages, but it is sure to assume that given her [[Vanyar|Vanyarin]] and [[Teleri|Telerin]] ancestry.</ref><br />
| birth={{YT|1362}}<br />
| birthlocation=[[Eldamar]]<br />
| rule={{TA|1981}} - {{TA|3021}}<br />
| sailedwest=[[29 September]], {{TA|3021}}<br />
| sailedfrom=[[Grey Havens]]<br />
| age=8374 years<br />
| notablefor=<br />
| house=[[House of Finarfin]]<br />
| parentage=[[Finarfin]] and [[Eärwen]]<br />
| siblings=[[Finrod]], [[Angrod]] and [[Aegnor]]<br />
| spouse=[[Celeborn]]<br />
| children=[[Celebrían]]<br />
| gender=Female<br />
| height=6 feet, 4 inches (193cm)<ref>{{UT|Measures}}</ref><ref group=note>Quote by J.R.R. Tolkien from the Unfinished Tales, the same section referenced:'' "Thus two rangar was often called 'man-high', which at thirty-eight inches gives an average height of six feet four inches; (1.93 meters) '''but this was at a later date, when the stature of the Dúnedain appears to have decreased'''..."'' (emphasis mine)</ref><br />
| hair=Radiant gold touched with silver<br />''(cf. [[Hair of Galadriel]])''<br />
| eyes=<br />
| clothing=White robes<br />
| weapons=<br />
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{{quote|Very tall [Galadriel and Celeborn] were, and the Lady no less tall than the Lord; and they were grave and beautiful. They were clad wholly in white; and the hair of the Lady was of deep gold… but no sign of age was upon them, unless it were in the depths of their eyes; for these were keen as lances in the starlight, and yet profound, the wells of deep memory.|''[[The Fellowship of the Ring]]'', "[[The Mirror of Galadriel]]"}}<br />
'''Galadriel''' was an [[Noldor|Noldorin]] Lady who witnessed [[Middle-earth]] during the Three [[Ages]]. <br />
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Galadriel was born in [[Aman]] as one of the [[Noldor]]. She was the daughter of [[Finarfin]], and younger sister to [[Finrod|Finrod Felagund]] (later [[King of Nargothrond]]), [[Angrod]], and [[Aegnor]]. She took part in the [[Exile of the Noldor]], supporting [[Fëanor]]'s rebellion. However, she opposed the [[Kinslaying at Alqualondë]] and crossed the [[Helcaraxë]] with the rest of [[Fingolfin]]'s followers. After arriving in [[Beleriand]], she lived mainly in [[Doriath]], where she befriended [[Melian]]. Later, with her husband [[Celeborn]], she ruled over the [[Silvan Elves|woodland Elves]] of [[Lothlórien]], and together they had a daughter, [[Celebrían]], who married [[Elrond]]. <br />
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She is described as "the mightiest and fairest of all the Elves that remained in [[Middle-earth]]",<ref name=Rings>{{S|Rings}}</ref> and the "greatest of Elven women".<ref>{{App|B1}}, p. 1082</ref> Throughout the Third Age it was unknown who wielded the [[Three Rings]],<ref name=Third>{{App|TA}}, pp. 1085-8</ref> but during the [[War of the Ring]], Galadriel revealed to [[Frodo Baggins]] that she was the bearer of [[Nenya]].<ref name=Mirror>{{FR|Mirror}}</ref>{{rp|365}} After the War, she returned to the [[Uttermost West]].<br />
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==History==<br />
===Elder Days===<br />
====Life in Aman====<br />
:See also: ''[[#Other versions of the legendarium|Other versions of the legendarium]]''.<br />
Galadriel was born in [[Eldamar]] in the [[Year of the Trees 1362]].<ref>{{MR|P2l}}, p. 106</ref> She was the fourth child of [[Finarfin]], prince of the [[Noldor]], who named her '''''Artanis'''''.<ref name=Finwe>{{PM|Finwe}}, pp. 346-7</ref> Her mother was [[Eärwen]], princess of the [[Falathrim|Teleri]], who named her '''''Nerwen''''' ("Man-maiden"). Galadriel grew beautiful and tall, even for the women of the Noldor, being strong of body, will, and mind, "a match for both the [[loremasters]] and the athletes of the [[Eldar]] in the days of their youth."<ref name=Case>{{PM|Case}}, pp. 337-338</ref> <br />
[[File:Marya Filatova - Galadriel.jpg|left|thumb|''Galadriel'' by [[Marya Filatova]]]]<br />
Indeed, "she was then of Amazon disposition and bound up her hair as a crown when taking part in athletic feats". This custom was the origin of her [[Sindarin]] [[Epessë|name]] '''''Galadriel''''' ("Maiden crowned with gleaming hair"),<ref name=Amazon>{{L|348}}, p. 428</ref> which was given to (and accepted by) her much later, in [[Beleriand]].<ref>{{NM|P3xvi}}, p. 352, note 8</ref> The gleaming of her hair was not a mere poetic reference: [[Hair of Galadriel|her hair]] was held a marvel unmatched. It mingled and surpassed the gold hair of her father and the starlike silver of her mother, so the Eldar said that both [[light]]s of the [[Two Trees]] were captured in her tresses. It was also said that this first gave the idea to her uncle [[Fëanor]] of capturing the merged light of the Trees, which would result in the making of the [[Silmarils]]. He asked her three times for one of her tresses, but she always refused. Fëanor and Galadriel were always unfriends, both being the greatest Eldar in Valinor; and if Fëanor was greater than her, she was wiser, and her wisdom grew with the long years. For she also had an outstanding gift to see into the minds of others, and she hated and feared the darkness in Fëanor.<ref name=Case/><br />
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There was still bliss in Valinor when she was born, but soon she was influenced by the [[Of the Silmarils and the Unrest of the Noldor|unrest of the Noldor]] and lost her inner peace ever after. She was proud, like most of the [[House of Finwë]], and like her closest brother [[Finrod]], "she had dreams of far lands and dominions that might be her own to order as she would without tutelage". But deep in herself, she had the noble spirit of the [[Vanyar]], which did not allow her to forget the reverence for the [[Valar]].<ref name=Case/><br />
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During the [[Darkening of Valinor]] and the rebellion of Fëanor, Galadriel was the only woman of the Noldor who stood among the rising princes. She swore no [[Oath of Fëanor|oath]], but the words of Fëanor concerning [[Middle-earth]] kindled a desire in her heart, as she was eager to see those wide unguarded lands and rule a realm of her own.<ref name=Flight>{{S|Flight}}</ref> Like the rest of the [[House of Finarfin]], she was also supportive of the [[Exile of the Noldor|Exile]] by the desire to aid their [[Sindar|Sindarin]] relatives in Middle-earth.<ref name=Case/> <br />
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Even though she was one of the leaders in this revolt,<ref name=RGEO>{{RGEO|Notes}}, p. 60</ref> during the troubles that followed she fought fiercely against Fëanor by defending her mother's kin during the [[Kinslaying at Alqualondë]] and the rape of the ships. Afterwards, she even desired to follow Fëanor to disturb him in all the ways that she could, but nothing could have moved her to return since she had begun her way to exile, as her pride was strong then as it was thereafter.<ref name=Case/> She kept moving forward even under the [[Doom of Mandos]], when her father Finarfin abandoned the march and returned to Valinor, and even when Fëanor left behind the hosts of Fingolfin and the children of Finarfin. Then she, along with Finrod and [[Fingolfin]] and his sons, led her people into the bitter North and crossed the terrors of [[Helcaraxë]]. After many losses, they arrived on the northern shores of the [[Outer Lands]].<ref name=Flight/><br />
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====Arrival to Middle-earth====<br />
[[File:Līga Kļaviņa - Love at First Sight.jpg|thumb|''Love at First Sight'' by [[:Category:Images by Līga Kļaviņa|Līga Kļaviņa]]]]<br />
Once in [[Beleriand]], those of the House of Finarfin were eager to enter [[Doriath]], but King [[Elu Thingol]] received the Noldor coldly, and only allowed entrance to those invited by him after some inquiries.<ref name=Return>{{S|13}}</ref> Finally in {{FA|52}},<ref>{{GA|74}}</ref> Finrod and Galadriel became long guests in Doriath, but her brother eventually departed to the [[Caverns of Narog]] to establish the stronghold of [[Nargothrond]]. Galadriel did not go with him, and remained in Doriath with [[Celeborn]], a kinsman of Thingol, as there was great love between them.<ref name=Noldor>{{S|15}}</ref> Despite their love, they did not marry each other, following the [[Elven life cycle|custom among the Eldar]] of avoiding marriage and child-bearing during the war,<ref name=Scales>{{NM|P1ix}}, pp. 65-66</ref> but they were eventually betrothed till the war ended.<ref name=Ages>{{NM|P1xviii}}, p. 149</ref> Meanwhile, she dwelt with Queen [[Melian]], from whom she learned much of the wisdom of Middle-earth.<ref name=Return/><br />
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The Western Corn necessary to make [[lembas]] had been lost in Beleriand until the Noldor brought new grain back, and it flourished by the grace of the Valar. Galadriel was one of the main inheritors of it and of the art of the making of lembas.<ref>{{NM|P3iv}}, p. 296</ref> It is safe to assume Melian benefited from this.<br />
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Years passed in Doriath, and Galadriel became dear to Melian, and they spoke often to one another about Valinor. Melian was eager to learn the causes of the [[Exile of the Noldor]], but Galadriel would tell her nothing of what occurred after the death of the Trees. In the year {{FA|66|n}},<ref>{{GA|91}}</ref> Melian asked her directly about this, and Galadriel revealed the story of the [[Silmarils]] and how the Noldor fled from Aman against the will of the Valar, though she still left out the Oath of Fëanor, the Kinslaying, and the burning of the Ships at [[Losgar]]. Melian was able to discern a darkness that was left unsaid, but Galadriel refused to tell her more. Thus, Thingol became concerned regarding the Noldor, and he was informed soon afterwards of the Noldor's dark deeds in Aman, and it chanced that the children of Finarfin were visiting Galadriel in Doriath. Egged on by his accusing words, [[Angrod]] told everything, and Galadriel's brothers departed heavy-hearted.<ref name=Noldor/><br />
[[File:Ten Thousand Leaves - Galadriel and Melian.jpeg|thumb|left|''Galadriel and Melian'' by [[:Category:Images by Ten Thousand Leaves|Ten Thousand Leaves]]]]<br />
Despite all this, Galadriel stayed in Doriath until {{FA|102|n}},<ref>{{GA|108}}</ref> when the kingdom of [[Nargothrond]] was finished and a feast was held for all the children of Finarfin. She dwelt for a while in Nargothrond, and in this time she asked Finrod why he remained unmarried. Her brother answered with dark [[foresight]]s about his kingdom.<ref name=Noldor/> Back in Doriath, in {{FA|420|n}},<ref>{{GA|129}}</ref> Galadriel heard another foretelling, as Melian told her about [[Beren|a Man]] who shall cross into Doriath moved by a doom greater than the [[Girdle of Melian]].<ref>{{S|17}}</ref><br />
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Galadriel did not have any significant role in the general course of events in the [[War of the Jewels]], but she might have been well informed of the deaths of her brothers [[Angrod]] and [[Aegnor]] during the [[Dagor Bragollach]]; and of Finrod's, while he was held in captivity by [[Sauron]] in the year {{FA|465|n}}.<ref>{{GA|198-199}}</ref> At some point before the [[Fall of Nargothrond]] in {{FA|495|n}},<ref>{{GA|275}}</ref> she and Celeborn passed over [[Blue Mountains|the mountains]]<ref name=Mirror/>{{rp|357}} to [[Eriador]], far from the turmoil of the last years of the [[First Age]].<br />
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After the [[War of Wrath]] at the end of the [[First Age]], [[Eönwë]], herald of [[Manwë]], summoned the [[Elves of Beleriand]] to the West, so they were received in [[Tol Eressëa]] and under the pardon of the Valar. However, some did not wish to leave Middle-earth, such as Celeborn.<ref name=Earendil>{{S|24}}</ref> Being one of the chief leaders of the Noldorin rebellion, Galadriel was not allowed to return<ref>{{L|297}}, p. 386</ref> and a ban was set upon her, to which she replied that she had no wish to do so.<ref name=RGEO/> The same pride that led her out of Aman still moved her, and she rejected the pardon of the Valar,<ref name=Case/> for as she had once lived in Aman itself, Eressëa seemed only a "second best". She was also moved by love for Celeborn, to whom she probably married around this time.<ref name=Scales/><ref group=note>The marriage of Galadriel and Celeborn, as well as when they crossed over the mountains, was not clearly defined by Tolkien.</ref><br />
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===Second Age===<br />
[[File:Ted Nasmith - Galadriel and Celeborn at Lake Evendim.jpg|thumb|''Galadriel and Celeborn at Lake Evendim'' by [[Ted Nasmith]]]]<br />
At the beginning of the Second Age, Celeborn and Galadriel dwelt for a time in [[Lindon]], south of the [[Lune]], while [[Gil-galad]] ruled in the north.<ref name=Second>{{App|B1}}, pp. 1082-4</ref> Both left Lindon before the years 10-20, when [[Gil-galad]] became king in that land, apparently thanks to her influence.<ref>{{NM|P1xi}}, p. 81</ref> They entered [[Eriador]] and dwelt for a while around [[Lake Nenuial]], being followed by many Noldor, [[Grey-elves]] and [[Green-elves]]. They were considered the Lord and Lady of the Eldar in Eriador.<ref name=Concerning>{{UT|Concerning}}</ref>{{rp|234}} Probably around {{SA|300}},<ref group=note>The birth-year of Celebrían was not well defined by Tolkien.</ref> Galadriel and Celeborn had a daughter: [[Celebrían]].<ref name=Scales/><br />
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Circa the year {{SA|500|n}}, [[Sauron]] began to stir in Middle-earth again,<ref name=Second/> but his name was not known. He was, however, perceived by Galadriel, who noticed there was a controlling evil, and that it was spreading above the world, coming from the East beyond the [[Misty Mountains]]. She also thought this 'residue of evil' could only be fought with an alliance of all its enemies. Therefore, she and Celeborn moved eastwards and established the realm of [[Eregion]] near [[Khazad-dûm]]. Celeborn was not fond of [[Dwarves]], but she saw the importance of getting close to them, for she saw military interests even with them. Also, she was a Noldo, and therefore close to them in mind and in the passion for crafts; and in Valinor she had learned from [[Yavanna]] and [[Aulë]], the creator of the Dwarves himself.<ref name=Concerning/>{{rp|235}} <br />
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Some Noldor were also interested in establishing a realm near Khazad-dûm because they knew [[mithril]] had been discovered there. Therefore, many Elven-smiths came to Eregion and created good relations with the Dwarves. [[Celebrimbor]], a descendant of [[Fëanor]] (and therefore a distant cousin of Galadriel), was the greatest of the craft-men and the Lord of Eregion.<ref name=Second/> He was its main builder and in {{SA|750|n}} [[Ost-in-Edhil]], the main city of the realm, was begun. The power of Galadriel and Celeborn also grew: thanks to the Dwarves of Khazad-dûm, they had contact with the [[Nandor|Nandorin]] realm of [[Lórinand]], on the other side of the Misty Mountains. Thanks to Galadriel's influence upon Lórinand, Sauron's machinations there were fruitless.<ref name=Concerning/>{{rp|236}} She also got in contact with [[Númenor]], having a meeting with King [[Aldarion]] when he came to [[Tharbad]] around {{SA|883|n}}-884.<ref>{{UT|4}}, ''The further course of the narrative'', pp. 205-6</ref><br />
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About the year {{SA|1200|n}}, Sauron came in disguise to Eriador, but he was only welcomed in Eregion by Celebrimbor and the Elven-smiths, who were interested in his advice on craftsmanship.<ref name=Concerning/>{{rp|236}} Galadriel was not deceived, and rejected him, saying that he was not in the training of Aulë as he claimed.<ref>{{UT|Galadriel}}, "Notes", p. 254, note 7</ref> "He perceived at once that Galadriel would be his chief adversary and obstacle, and he endeavoured therefore to placate her, bearing her scorn with outward patience and courtesy". At the same time, without her knowledge, Sauron influenced Celebrimbor and his [[Gwaith-i-Mírdain]] against Galadriel and Celeborn. Finally, he moved them to rebellion and they seized the power of Eregion at some time between {{SA|1350|n}} and 1400. Thus, Galadriel and Celebrían left through Khazad-dûm to Lórinand, although Celeborn would not enter the Dwarvish realm and remained in Eregion.<ref name=Concerning/>{{rp|237}}<br />
[[File:Ebe Kastein - Galadriel and Celebrian.jpg|thumb|''Galadriel and Celebrían'' by [[:Category:Images by Ebe Kastein|Ebe Kastein]]]]<br />
When Sauron made [[the One Ring]] in {{SA|1600}}, his treachery was discovered by Celebrimbor.<ref name=Second/> The elven-smith came to Lórinand, seeking counsel from Galadriel. They did not find the strength to destroy the [[Rings of Power]], but she advised him to hide the [[Three Rings]] of the Elves where Sauron could not find them. Therefore he gave her [[Nenya]], the White Ring, and the other Rings were given to other Elven lords.<ref name=Concerning/>{{rp|237}} This was done in {{SA|1693|n}}, the same year Sauron began [[War of the Elves and Sauron|the war against the Elves]].<ref name=Second/><br />
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With the invasion of Eriador, [[Sack of Eregion|Eregion was destroyed]] and Celebrimbor killed. Despite using torture, Sauron could not learn from him where the Elven Rings were, but suspected they were kept by Galadriel and Gil-galad.<ref name=Concerning/>{{rp|238}} But thanks to the military intervention of [[Númenor]], Sauron was defeated in {{SA|1700|n}}.<ref name=Second/> Soon afterwards, Galadriel was affected by [[sea-longing]], and she decided to leave Lórinand and dwell beside the sea.<ref name=Concerning/>{{rp|240}} As one of the [[High-elves]], her yearning for the sea was unavoidable, and now she became burdened with the desire to cross to the Blessed Realm, but the ban upon her impeded it.<ref name=RGEO/> Thus she did not go to the sea yet, but crossed west of the mountains through Khazad-dûm with Celebrían. Seeking Celeborn, they travelled to [[Imladris]], a refuge created by [[Elrond]] during the war. Once there, a [[White Council|Council]] was held, in which it was decided that Imladris would be the Elvish stronghold in the East, rather than the desolate Eregion.<ref name=Concerning/>{{rp|239-40}}<br />
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Galadriel, Celeborn and Celebrían dwelt a long time in Imladris, but at some point they left and moved near the sea, to [[Belfalas]], at the place later known as [[Dol Amroth]]. There were few inhabitants there, but they were visited by Nandorin companies.<ref name=Concerning/>{{rp|238}} Apparently, they returned to Lórien twice before the [[Last Alliance]] and the end of the Second Age,<ref name=Amroth>{{UT|Amroth}}, pp. 243-5</ref> but of their whereabouts during the final millenia of that Age nothing else is known.<br />
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====Rule in Lórien====<br />
In early [[Third Age]], in the year {{TA|109|n}}, Galadriel and Celeborn's daughter [[Celebrían]] wedded [[Elrond]] the [[Half-elven]].<ref name=Third/> But they did not stay at first with her, for Galadriel was filled with [[Foresight|foreboding]], and was concerned about the growing shadow in [[Mirkwood]] and [[Dol Guldur]]. Therefore she and Celeborn made long journeys investigating [[Rhovanion]], going from [[Gondor]] and the borders of [[Mordor]] to [[Thranduil]] in the north. They also stayed a long time in Lórien with king [[Amroth]], for Galadriel saw with her wisdom that this prosperous realm could be a stronghold against the growing Shadow, if it had better rule.<ref name=Amroth/> At this point, the [[Istari]] arrived in Middle-earth, and only Galadriel, Elrond and [[Círdan]] knew [[Valinor|where]] they came from.<ref name=Rings/> Around the year {{TA|1100|n}}, the [[Wise]] (including Galadriel as one the chief Eldar) were well aware of the evil dwelling in Dol Guldur, but thought it was one of the [[Nazgûl]].<ref name=Third/><br />
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After their enquiries, Galadriel and Celeborn passed over the mountains to Imladris, and there dwelt for many years with their kin.<ref name=Amroth/><br />
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Between the years {{TA|1980}}-{{TA|1981|n}}, [[Durin's Bane|a terror]] appeared in Khazad-dûm and the Dwarves abandoned the realm, while the many Silvan Elves from Lórien had to flee south.<ref name=Third/> To make things worse, Amroth was lost, leaving no heir, and the Elven realm was left without a ruler. Therefore Celeborn and Galadriel went there, welcomed by the people, and took up the rule jointly, but refused to take the [[King of Lórien|royal title]] and were called the [[Lord and Lady of Galadhrim]]. Saving the realm from the perils of the moment, they dwelt and ruled permanently there.<ref name=Amroth/><br />
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As the shadow of Dol Guldur grew again, the [[White Council]] was formed in {{TA|2463|n}}.<ref name=Third/> It was summoned by Galadriel,<ref>{{FR|II7}}, p. 357</ref> who, being a good friend of [[Gandalf]], recommended that he be made head of the Council. But this distinction fell instead to [[Saruman]].<ref name=Rings/> <br />
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In {{TA|2510|n}}, her daughter Celebrían departed to the West after being wounded by Orcs.<ref name=Third/> The same year, she aided [[Eorl]] and his [[Rohirrim|riders]] in the [[Battle of the Field of Celebrant]], creating a white mist that drove out the shadows from Dol Guldur.<ref>{{UT|8b}}, pp. 298-9</ref><br />
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The White Council would not take action until Gandalf discovered that the shadow growing in Dol Guldur was [[Sauron]]. After deliberating, the Council joined forces and drove Sauron out of Dol Guldur in {{TA|2941|n}}.<ref name=Third/><br />
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Some years later, [[Aragorn]] entered Lothlórien after many travels, and was admitted by Galadriel. She bade him change his worn-out clothes and dressed him like a proper prince. At that time, Aragorn became betrothed to her granddaughter [[Arwen]].<ref>{{App|A1v}}, p. 1060</ref><br />
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====War of the Ring====<br />
[[File:Ralph Damiani - The Trial.png|thumb|right|''The Trial'' by [[:Category:Images by Ralph Damiani|Ralph Damiani]]]]<br />
Galadriel and Celeborn were well informed about the [[Company of the Ring]], its members and their mission, before its coming to Lothlórien, perhaps informed by messages from Rivendell.<ref>{{FR|II6}}, p. 350</ref> In the evening of [[17 January]] of {{TA|3019}}, the Company arrived at [[Caras Galadhon]].<ref name=Great>{{App|B3}}, pp. 1092-4</ref> Coming to the [[talan]] of the Lady and Lord, each member was greeted by name by Celeborn. Noticing that Gandalf was missing, Galadriel asked where he was, for she wished to speak with him. Hearing that they had encountered [[Durin's Bane]] and that this was in fact a [[Balrog]] from ancient times, Celeborn criticized the passing of the Company through Moria. However, Galadriel was more sympathetic, especially towards [[Gimli]], who bowed to her in respect. Before inviting the members of the Company to rest and heal there, she looked deep into their eyes and they all felt their hearts exposed.<ref name=Mirror/>{{rp|354-7}}<br />
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A month later, in [[15 February]],<ref name=Great/> [[Frodo Baggins]] the [[Ringbearer|bearer of the One Ring]], was walking in the evening with [[Sam]] when they encountered Galadriel. She led them to an enclosed garden and showed them a silver basin. Filling it with water, a [[Mirror of Galadriel|Mirror]] was formed, which allowed them to see things that were and that might come. Frodo saw the [[Eye of Sauron]], and she explained that she knew well Frodo's mind, for Sauron also tried to look into hers. She also [[Keepers of the Three Rings|kept]] a [[Ring of Power]], and showing him [[Nenya]], the Ring of Adamant, she explained that its power would disappear once Frodo destroyed the One, and Lórien would fade. Then Frodo offered the One Ring to her, and she laughed in response, saying: "''I do not deny that my heart has greatly desired to ask what you offer.''" Then she began to ponder how powerful she would become with the Ring's power, and from Nenya came a great light that covered her overwhelming height. But the light faded and she laughed again, saying: "''I pass the test. I will diminish, and go into the West, and remain Galadriel''."<ref name=Mirror/>{{rp|360-6}} Indeed, with this rejection of temptation and her long opposition against Sauron, the ban upon her return to Aman was finally lifted.<ref name=RGEO/><br />
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That night, the Lord and Lady summoned the Company and spoke of their departure, which was appointed for the following morning. The next day, she sent the Fellowship off on their Quest, furnished with [[Gifts of Galadriel|gifts]] for all the members, including [[lembas]] and [[Elven cloaks]]. Later, a farewell party was held, which the Lord and Lady attended in a [[Swan-ships|swan boat]]; from it, Galadriel sang [[Galadriel's Song of Eldamar|a song about Eldamar]]. After everyone ate and drank, she proceed to give [[Gifts of Galadriel|specific gifts]] to each member.<ref name=Farewell>{{FR|II8}}, pp. 367-378</ref><br />
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Among the gifts was the [[Elfstone]], which she gave to Aragorn from Arwen "''as a token of hope''".<ref name=Farewell/> The jewel was also in part a bridal gift and a token of the future wedding of Arwen and Aragorn, done following the [[Laws and Customs among the Eldar|Noldorin custom]] in which the bride's mother should give to the bridegroom a jewel (Arwen's mother Celebrían had departed long ago, so Galadriel did it in her place).<ref>{{MR|P3II3}}, p. 211</ref> Galadriel stated she was unsure as to what to give Gimli, and asked what he wanted. After complimenting her beauty, he requested a single strand of [[Hair of Galadriel|her hair]]. Instead, she rewarded him with three strands, which he promised to put into an imperishable crystal in memory of her. And last, to Frodo, she gave a [[Phial of Galadriel|a small crystal phial]] specially prepared by her, which contained the [[Light of Valinor|light]] of the [[star of Eärendil]].<ref name=Farewell/><br />
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The Company saw her one last time while sailing down to the [[Anduin]]: a shining figure, all clad in white, raising her arms, and Frodo was able to hear her clearly reciting [[Namárië|a long poem in Elvish]] despite the distance.<ref name=Farewell/><br />
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On [[17 February|the following day]], a resurrected Gandalf was brought to Lórien by [[Gwaihir]],<ref name=Great/> who was sent by Galadriel. He was received in Caras Galadhon, and was healed and clothed in white. He also took and gave counsel. Before he left, Galadriel gave him [[Galadriel's messages|some prophetic messages]] for Aragorn, [[Legolas]] and Gimli.<ref>{{TT|III5}}, pp. 502-3</ref><br />
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The land of Lórien was not exempt from the battles of the [[War of the Ring]]: between [[11 March|11]] and [[18 March]], the [[Galadhrim]] suffered [[assaults on Lothlórien|three assaults]] from Dol Guldur.<ref name=Great/> After the [[Fall of Barad-dûr]], Celeborn crossed the Anduin with a host and began the [[Fall of Dol Guldur|destruction of Dol Guldur]].<ref name=Chief>{{App|B4}}, pp. 1095-6</ref> Soon afterward, Galadriel threw down the walls of the fortress and opened its pits.<ref name=Great/><br />
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[[File:Victoria Clare - On the Road to the Grey Havens.jpg|thumb|''On the Road to the Grey Havens'' by [[:Category:Images by Victoria Clare|Victoria Clare]]]]<br />
Galadriel, Celeborn and their company attended the wedding of Aragorn and Arwen, and soon afterward they joined the crowded funeral riding of King [[Théoden]] to [[Rohan]]. After the funerals in the [[Golden Hall]], they continued their travel northwards with other companions and halted in [[Isengard]]. There they encountered [[Saruman]], who, released by [[Fangorn]], snapped that she always had hated him, and now he would find comfort knowing that her realm was destroyed as well as his.<ref>{{RK|VI6}}, pp. 976, 983, 985</ref><br />
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Two years later, on [[22 September]] {{TA|3021|n}},<ref name=Chief/> Frodo and Sam encountered a [[Wandering Companies|Wandering Company]] while travelling around [[the Shire]], and found that Elrond, Galadriel and [[Bilbo]] were part of it. Nenya was visible on Galadriel's finger, and she seemed to shine like the moon. Frodo decided to depart with them and the hobbits joined the company, led by Elrond and Galadriel.<ref name=Havens>{{RK|VI9}}, pp. 1027-30</ref> On [[29 September]], they reached the [[Grey Havens]] and departed over the Sea. Thus ended the [[Third Age]].<ref name=Chief/><br />
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Sometime later during the [[Fourth Age]], she received Celeborn, her husband.<ref>{{FR|Prologue}}, pp. 15-16</ref> And in {{FoA|120}},<ref>{{App|B5}}, p. 1098</ref> it is said that [[Gimli]] went to the West out of his desire to see Galadriel again. He may have been allowed thanks to her intervention.<ref>{{App|A3}}, p. 1081</ref><br />
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==Etymology==<br />
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''Galadriel'' is a [[Sindarin]] name translated by [[J.R.R. Tolkien|Tolkien]] as "maiden crowned with a garland of bright radiance",<ref name=Finwe/> "Maiden crowned with gleaming hair",<ref name=Amazon></ref> "glittering garland",<ref>{{L|345}}, p. 423</ref> and "maiden crowned with a radiant garland".<ref name=SApp>{{S|Appendix}}, ''kal-''</ref><ref>{{HM|RC}}, pp. 44-45</ref> ''Galadriel'' consists of ''[[galad]]'' ("light, radiance") + ''[[rî]]'' ("crown").<ref name=Finwe/> It was an [[epessë]] given to her in her youth because, while doing exercise, she usually bound up her long golden hair as a crown.<ref name=Amazon>{{L|348}}, p. 428</ref><br />
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Tolkien notes that the element ''galad'' had no relation to Sindarin ''[[galadh]]'' or [[Silvan]] ''galað'' ("tree").<ref name=SApp/><ref>{{MR|P3I5}}, p. 182 (commentary to §42)</ref> Due to this coincidence the name ''Galadriel'' was occasionally rendered as '''''Galadhriel''''', as Tolkien explains:<br />
{{blockquote|When Celeborn and Galadriel became the rulers of the <nowiki>[</nowiki>[[Galadhrim]]<nowiki>]</nowiki>, the name of Galadriel became associated with trees, an association that was aided by the name of her husband, which also appeared to contain a tree-word; so that outside [[Lórien]] among those whose memories of the ancient days and Galadriel's history had grown dim her name was often altered to 'Galadhriel', though never in Lórien itself.<ref>{{UT|6e}}, p. 267</ref>}}<br />
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==Other names==<br />
At the time of her birth, [[Finarfin]] named his only daughter '''''Artanis'''''. Her [[father-name]] meant "Noble Woman" in [[Quenya]], from ''[[arta]]'' + ''[[nís]]''.<ref name=Finwe/><br />
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Due to Artanis's height and her great strength of body and will, Eärwen chose the [[Quenya]] name '''''Nerwen''''', meaning "man-maiden".<ref name=Case/><br />
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'''''Alatáriel''''' was the [[Telerin]] name given to Galadriel by [[Celeborn]], meaning "Maiden Crowned with Radiant Garland", which referred to her hair.<ref name=Finwe/> The Quenya form of this name was '''''Altáriel''''', although the proper form would have been '''''Ñaltariel'''''. Its [[Sindarin]] cognate '''''Galadriel''''' was chosen by her to be her Sindarin name, because it was the most beautiful of her names and had been given to her as an [[epessë]] by her lover, Teleporno of the Teleri, whom she wedded later in Beleriand.<ref name=Finwe/><ref group="note">''Teleporno'' was the Teleri-styled named for Lord Celeborn: "It is only of course in the late version that Celeborn appears with a High-elven, rather than Sindarin, name: ''Teleporno''", {{UT|6e}}, p. 266</ref><br />
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== Genealogy ==<br />
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==Other versions of the legendarium==<br />
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There is a bit of confusion in the story of Galadriel, which [[J.R.R. Tolkien]] revised multiple times. Some of the points that were revised often are the role of Galadriel in the rebellion of the Noldor, the reason why she remained in Middle-earth, and the time at which she met Celeborn.<br />
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In the notes to ''[[The Road Goes Ever On (book)|The Road Goes Ever On]]'' and in the published ''[[The Silmarillion|Silmarillion]]'', Galadriel was one of the leaders of the revolt and followed Fëanor into Exile.<ref name=RGEO/> She could not return to Valinor because a ban was set against her, and in Doriath she met Celeborn, who was one of the Sindar. This is the only version of her story that was published by Tolkien during his lifetime.<br />
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However, there are two late essays written by Tolkien after ''The Road Goes Ever On'' and published in ''Unfinished Tales'' that contradict this. In one of them, though Galadriel revolts along with the other Noldor, she is offered the pardon of the Valar, but refuses to return to Aman nonetheless.<br />
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In the other, later essay (dated by Christopher Tolkien to probably the last few months of his father's life), Galadriel has no participation at all in the rebellion of the Noldor, but sails on her own ship to Middle-earth. She would have been allowed to sail to Middle-earth by the Valar under normal conditions, but since she did it during the disturbance of Valinor, she fell under the Doom of Mandos all the same.<br />
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In both essays, she met Celeborn in Aman. He was called in Quenya ''Teleporno'', and was a young Telerin prince, probably the son or grandson of [[Olwë]] (which would make him Galadriel's uncle or cousin). They eventually fell in love, and he called her in his own Telerin tongue [[Alatáriel]] (later [[Sindarization|Sindarinized]] as Galadriel and semi-[[Quenya|Quenyarized]] as [[Altáriel]]).<br />
It is unknown whether Tolkien would have gone ahead with this revision (possibly making a new edition of ''The Road Goes Ever On''), or if he would have felt bound by the published version.<br />
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Another point that was revised was the time at which Galadriel passed over the mountains of Ered Luin to enter Eriador. In ''The Fellowship of the Ring'', she says that she passed over the mountains before the fall of Nargothrond and [[Gondolin]], yet in ''[[Appendix B]]'' of ''The Lord of the Rings'' it is stated that at the beginning of the Second Age she was still dwelling in Lindon, before passing over the mountains. This contradiction in the same work must have been due to a mistake during revision.<br />
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Besides this, the earlier version of the story of Amroth, given in ''[[Unfinished Tales]]'', says that Galadriel and Celeborn had two children, of which one was [[Amroth]].<ref name=Concerning/><br />
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==Portrayal in adaptations==<br />
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|File:The Lord of the Rings (1978 film) - Galadriel.jpg|Galadriel as portrayed in [[The Lord of the Rings (1978 film)|''The Lord of the Rings'' (1978 film)]]<br />
|File:The Lord of the Rings (film series) - Galadriel.jpg|[[Cate Blanchett]] as Galadriel in [[The Lord of the Rings (film series)|''The Lord of the Rings'' (film series)]]<br />
|File:The Lord of the Rings - The Fellowship of the Ring (video game) - Galadriel.JPG|Galadriel as portrayed in Vivendi's ''[[The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (video game)|The Fellowship of the Ring]]''<br />
|File:The Lord of the Rings Online - Galadriel.jpg|Galadriel in ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online]]''<br />
|File:The Hobbit - An Unexpected Journey - Galadriel.jpg|[[Cate Blanchett]] as Galadriel in [[The Hobbit (film series)|''The Hobbit'' (film series)]]<br />
|File:Shadow of Mordor - Galadriel.png|Galadriel as portrayed in ''[[Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor]]''<br />
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===Films===<br />
'''1978: [[The Lord of the Rings (1978 film)|''The Lord of the Rings'' (1978 film)]]:'''<br />
:Galadriel is voiced by [[Annette Crosbie]].<br />
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'''2001: ''[[The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring]]'':'''<br />
:Galadriel is played by [[Cate Blanchett]]. Galadriel narrates the Prologue, explaining the creation of the Rings of Power and the War of the Last Alliance. Earlier plans considered were to have either Frodo or Gandalf narrate the Prologue, but this was dropped: Frodo was not alive until thousands of years after these events happened, and although Gandalf was alive, he was not present in Middle-earth at the time; the Wizards came some one thousand years after the Prologue ends. Thus Galadriel narrates the Prologue, because she had first-hand accounts of this history and actively participated in its events.<br />
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'''2002: ''[[The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers]]'':'''<br />
:Galadriel frequently consults telepathically with Elrond; there is an indication from the books{{fact}} that the two were able to communicate in some way, without specific reference. In the film, unlike the book, [[Galadriel]] and [[Elrond]] send an army of [[Elves]] - led by [[Haldir]] - to [[Battle of the Hornburg|Helm's Deep]] to aid the [[Rohirrim]]. In the DVD commentary, [[Peter Jackson]] and his fellow writers explain that they worried audiences would wonder why the Elves don't seem to be helping in the war, while at the same time, they felt that actually inserting an entire separate battle scene at Lothlórien would take up too much screen time and resources.<br />
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'''2003: ''[[The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King]]'':'''<br />
:A spiritual apparition of Lady Galadriel appears to provide Frodo strength following his passage through Shelob's Lair soon after he uses the Phial that she gave him. She is later seen leaving Middle-earth along with other Ring-Bearers, but in film version her husband Celeborn departs with her at the same time.<br />
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'''2012-14: [[The Hobbit (film series)|''The Hobbit'' (film series)]]:'''<br />
:Cate Blanchett reprised her role as Galadriel, although the character is absent from the novel.<ref name="PJCasting">{{webcite|author=[[Peter Jackson]]|articleurl=http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150168211921558|articlename=Production begins in New Zealand on The Hobbit|dated=20-March-2011|website=[http://www.facebook.com/ Facebook]|accessed=23-Dec-2011}}</ref> She appears as part of the [[White Council]] alongside [[Saruman]], [[Gandalf]] and [[Elrond]]. Later, she telepathically urges Gandalf to further seek the true identity of the [[Sauron#Sauron's Return|Necromancer]]. Finally, during the [[attack on Dol Guldur]], Galadriel plays a larger role. She first rescues Gandalf from captivity, and is ultimately the one to drive Sauron from the fortress using her [[Phial of Galadriel|phial]].<br />
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===Television===<br />
'''1993: [[Hobitit]]:'''<br />
:Galadriel is portrayed by [[Heidi Krohn]]. She appears only in the episode ''Lórien'', and she is featured as a reflection on the surface of the lake.<br />
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'''2022: [[The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power]]:'''<br />
:Galadriel is portrayed by [[Morfydd Clark]] as one of the central characters of the series.<ref>{{webcite|author=Alice Jones|articleurl=https://inews.co.uk/culture//film/morfydd-clark-saint-maud-baftas-lord-of-the-rings-946160|articlename=Morfydd Clark on Saint Maud and Lord of the Rings: ‘I am so frightened of loneliness’<br />
|dated=10-August-2021|website=[https://inews.co.uk inews.co.uk]|accessed=07-April-2021}}</ref><ref>{{webcite|author=Justin Kroll|articleurl=https://variety.com/2019/tv/news/lord-of-the-rings-series-galadriel-morfydd-clark-1203446284/ |articlename='Lord of the Rings' Series Taps Morfydd Clark as Young Galadriel (EXCLUSIVE)|dated=10-August-2021|website=[https://variety..com Variety]|accessed=17-December-2019}}</ref> Lady [[Amelie Child Villiers]] portrays Galadriel in [[A Shadow of the Past|Episode 1]] as a child.<ref>{{webcite|author=|articleurl=https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9788618/fullcredits|articlename=Full Cast & Crew|dated=|website=IMDB|accessed=2 September 2022}}</ref><br />
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===Radio series===<br />
'''1981: [[The Lord of the Rings (1981 radio series)|''The Lord of the Rings'' (1981 radio series)]]:'''<br />
:The voice of Galadriel is provided by [[Marian Diamond]]. In addition to the Lothlórien episodes, the voice of Galadriel is heard in Shelob's Lair as a reminder to use the phial, and she appears with Elrond in the final episode in the Shire, as they journey towards the Grey Havens.<br />
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'''2001-2003: [[Pán prsteňov (2001-2003 Slovak radio series)|''Pán prsteňov'' (2001-2003 Slovak radio series)]]:'''<br />
:The voice of Galadriel is provided by Soňa Norisová. Norisová also provides most of the singing in the series (including the opening and closing titles theme and series closing song), alluding to Galadriel being a secondary storyteller (with Bilbo Baggins serving as the series' primary storyteller).<br />
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===Games===<br />
'''2002: [[The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (video game)|''The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring'' (video game)]]:'''<br />
:Galadriel, voiced by [[Jennifer Hale]], is the narrator of the Prologue and the Epilogue, and appears in Lothlórien.<br />
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'''2006: ''[[The Lord of the Rings: The Battle for Middle-earth II]]'':'''<br />
:Galadriel is the strongest of "Hero" units available to the Free Peoples. If a player's army manages to spot [[Gollum]] on the battlefield, take The One Ring from him and deliver it to their forces, the option to "summon" Galadriel unlocks for a large amount of resources. Thus, Lady Galadriel is represented as succumbing to corruption of The Ring, similar to the respective scene in the ''[[The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring]]'' movie.<br />
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'''2007: ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online]]'':'''<br />
:Introduced in ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Mines of Moria]]'', Galadriel plays a prominent role during the Epic storyline with guidance and support. During the final days of the [[War of the Ring]], Galadriel assembles the Council of Elven Lords, where it is decided to bring their armies against [[Dol Guldur]]. After she brings down the walls of Dol Guldur, Galadriel accompanies Arwen on her journey south to her wedding, and they visit the site of [[Celebrian]]'s captivity in the [[Misty Mountains]] together. Afterwards, she and Celeborn join the procession of [[Elrond]]'s house and travel to [[Minas Tirith]] to attend the wedding of Arwen and Aragorn.<br />
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'''2014: [[Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor]]:'''<br />
:Galadriel is featured in the game, although she is a non-playable character. She is voiced by [[Jennifer Hale]] and she narrates the prologue in a showing of the game.<br />
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'''2017: [[Middle-earth: Shadow of War]]:'''<br />
:Galadriel is featured in the game, although she is a non-playable character, with [[Jennifer Hale]] reprising her role from the game.<br />
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| align=center | ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Shadows of Angmar|Shadows of Angmar]]''<br />
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| style="font-size: 90%;" align=center | ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Mines of Moria|Mines of Moria]]'' · ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Siege of Mirkwood|Siege of Mirkwood]]'' · ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Rise of Isengard|Rise of Isengard]]'' · ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Riders of Rohan|Riders of Rohan]]'' · ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Helm's Deep|Helm's Deep]]'' · ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Mordor|Mordor]]'' · ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Minas Morgul|Minas Morgul]]'' · ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: War of Three Peaks|War of Three Peaks]]'' · ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Fate of Gundabad|Fate of Gundabad]]'' · ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Before the Shadow|Before the Shadow]]''<br />
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| align=right style="font-size: 90%; background:#ceceff; padding-right: 5px;" width="150px" |'''[[:Category:The Lord of the Rings Online patches and updates|Major Patches/Updates]]'''<br />
| style="font-size: 90%;" align=center | ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Shores of Evendim|Shores of Evendim]]'' · ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: The City of Kings|The City of Kings]]'' · ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Defenders of Eriador|Defenders of Eriador]]'' · ''[[The Lord of the Rimgs Online: The Ashen Wastes|The Ashen Wastes]]'' · ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Doom of the Last-king|Doom of the Last-king]]'' · ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: The Rings-forges of Eregion|The Rings-forges of Eregion]]'' · ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Daughter of Strife|Daughter of Strife]]'' · ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Leaves of Lórien|Leaves of Lórien]]'' · ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Scourge of Khazad-dûm|Scourge of Khazad-dûm]]'' · ''[[The Lords of the Ring Online: Oath of the Rangers|Oath of the Rangers]]'' · ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Ride of the Grey Company|Ride of the Grey Company]]'' · ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Journey to Winter-Home|Journey to Winter-Home]]'' · ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Echos of the Dead|Echos of the Dead]]'' · ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Lost Legends of Eridar|Lost Legends of Eridar]]'' · ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Armies of Isengard|Armies of Isengard]]'' · ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Shores of the Great River|Shores of the Great River]]'' · ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Shadows of the Past|Shadows of the Past]]'' · ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Against the Shadow|Against the Shadow]]'' · ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Against the Shadow, Part II|Against the Shadow, Part II]]'' · ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Treachery of the White Hand|Treachery of the White Hand]]'' · ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: The Breaking of Isengard|The Breaking of Isengard]]'' · ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Paths of the Dead|Paths of the Dead]]'' · ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Gondor Aflame|Gondor Aflame]]'' · ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Ashes of Osgiliath|Ashes of Osgiliath]]'' · ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: The Siege of Minas Tirith|The Siege of Minas Tirith]]'' · ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: The Battle of Pelennor Fields|The Battle of Pelennor Fields]]'' · ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: March of the King|March of the King]]'' · ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Battle of the Black Gate|Battle of the Black Gate]]'' · ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Legacy of the Necromancer|Legacy of the Necromancer]]'' · ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Where Dragons Dwell|Where Dragons Dwell]]'' · ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Vales of Auduin|Vales of Auduin]]'' · ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Mists of Wilderland|Mists of Wilderland]]'' · ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: The Great Wedding|The Great Wedding]]'' · ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: The Wildwood|The Wildwood]]'' · ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Blood of Azog|Blood of Azog]]'' · ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Rangers and Ruin|Rangers and Ruin]]'' · ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: The Yondershire|The Yondershire]]''<br />
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| align=right colspan="2" style="font-size: 90%; background:#b4b4ff; padding-right: 5px;" width="150px" |'''Story Line'''<br />
| style="font-size: 90%;" align=center |''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Shadows of Angmar#Epic story line|Volume I: Shadows of Angmar]]'' · ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Mines of Moria#Synopsis|Volume II: Mines of Moria]]'' · ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Siege of Mirkwood#Volume III: Allies of the King|Volume III: Allies of the King]]'' · ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Helm's Deep#Volume IV: The Strength of Sauron|Volume IV: The Strength of Sauron]]'' · ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Mordor|The Black Book of Mordor]]'' · ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Minas Morgul#Volume V: The Peace of Middle-earth|Volume V: The Peace of Middle-earth]]'' · ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Minas Morgul#The Legacy of Durin and the Trials of the Dwarves|The Legacy of Durin and the Trials of the Dwarves]]''<br />
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| style="font-size: 90%;" align=center | [[The Lord of the Rings Online: Shadows of Angmar (soundtrack)|''Shadows of Angmar'']] · [[The Lord of the Rings Online: Mines of Moria (soundtrack)|''Mines of Moria'']] · [[The Lord of the Rings Online: Riders of Rohan (soundtrack)|''Riders of Rohan'']] · [[The Lord of the Rings Online: Helms Deep (soundtrack)|''Helms Deep'']] · [[The Lord of the Rings Online: 10th Anniversary (soundtrack)|''10th Anniversary'']] · [[The Lord of the Rings Online: Mordor (soundtrack)|''Mordor'']] · [[The Lord of the Rings Online: Legacy of the Necromancer (soundtrack)|''Legacy of the Necromancer'']] · [[The Lord of the Rings Online: Where Dragons Dwell (soundtrack)|''Where Dragons Dwell]]'' · [[The Lord of the Rings Online: Vales of Anduin (soundtrack)|''Vales of Anduin'']] · [[The Lord of the Rings Online: Minas Morgul (soundtrack)|''Minas Morgul'']] · [[The Lord of the Rings Online: Mists of Wilderland (soundtrack)|''Mists of Wilderland'']] · [[The Lord of the Rings Online: The Great Wedding (soundtrack)|''The Great Wedding'']] · [[The Lord of the Rings Online: War of Three Peaks (soundtrack)|''War of Three Peaks'']] · [[The Lord of the Rings Online: The Wildwood of Bree-land (soundtrack)|''The Wildwood of Bree-land'']] · [[The Lord of the Rings Online: Battle of the Black Gate (soundtrack)|''Battle of the Black Gate'']] · [[The Lord of the Rings Online: Blood of Azog (soundtrack)|''Blood of Azog'']] · [[The Lord of the Rings Online: Fate of Gundabad (soundtrack)|''Fate of Gundabad'']] · [[The Lord of the Rings Online: 15th Anniversary (soundtrack)|''15th Anniversary'']]<br />
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'''''The Lord of the Rings Online: Shadows of Angmar''''' is a massively multiplayer online role-playing game (MMORPG) set in [[Middle-earth]] during the time of ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]''. It is the initial version of ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online]]'' (LOTRO or LotRO) and is referred to as volume I of the game.<br />
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The game's story line starts at the beginning of ''[[The Fellowship of the Ring]]'' Book I, Chapter III "[[Three is Company]]" and ends at the end of Book II, Chapter II "[[The Council of Elrond]]".<br />
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==Release==<br />
[[Turbine]] and [[Midway Games, Inc.]] officially launched ''The Lord of the Rings Online: Shadows of Angmar'' on April 24th, 2007 in North America for PC computers. [[Codemasters]] handles the European version of the game.<br />
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==Game Play==<br />
In ''Shadows of Angmar'', Turbine allows players to create customized characters ([[elves]], [[dwarves]], [[hobbits]], or [[men]]) to explore Middle-earth as a persistent 3D world environment, undertaking trivial and epic quests (the main story line), and battling against a wide variety of creatures and enemies in player-vs-environment. These are creatures and enemies found in the [[legendarium]]. Players can also craft equipment and consumable items (including the popular varieties of pipe-weed), as well as enjoy recreational activities such as player-generated music.<br />
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The game also has player-vs-player (PvP) combat with the [[free peoples]] fighting player controlled enemies (called "creeps). Once the player levels a free person to level 10 they can create an [[Orcs|orc]], [[uruk-hai]], [[warg]] or [[spider]] and fight against the free peoples. Player-vs-player is limited to the region of the [[Ettenmoors]].<br />
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==Cast==<br />
The majority of the dialog in the game is textually based, but there are some characters with spoken dialog. There are also some characters that will speak a line or two of the dialog, but the rest of the dialog will be text.<br />
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| [[Gandalf]] || [[Harry Chase]]<br />
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| Sandar / Chef Vraz / Warg Rider Goblin || [[Mike Vaughn]]<br />
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| Additional Voices || [[Brian Talbot]]<br />
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| Additional Voices || [[Neil Kaplan]]<br />
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==Epic story line==<br />
The prologue and books one through eight were included with this title. The introduction for Dwarves, Elves, Hobbits and Men were also in ''Shadows of Angmar''. The introduction for Beornings was introduced in the update ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Gondor Aflame|Gondor Aflame]]'', for High Elves in the expansion ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Mordor|Mordor]]'', and for Stout-axes in the expansion ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Minas Morgul|Minas Morgul]]''. The epic story line continues in the patch ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Shores of Evendim|Shores of Evendim]]''.<br />
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===Introduction===<br />
There are five different introductions depending on the race of the player.<br />
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::'''Beorning:'''<br />
:The player is spending idle time on the shores of the river [[Anduin]] with another [[Beorn]] named Sterkist, the player's brother. He reflects if there is more to life than spending it gazing at the river after chores are done. The voice of [[Radagast]] is heard coming from [[Grimbeorn|Grimbeorn's]] lodge. Sterkist wonders what brought the wizard to their home. He sends you to Varthmath to see if he knows the answer. If he knows, he's not telling the player. He instructs the player to mind their own business and bring the milk-cow back into her pen. After herding the cow, the player meets up with Ofolmóth who remarks that the player has grown soft. He challenges the player into a spar. After he's had enough, he tells you to hunt the sickle-files that plague the area. After defeating a number of them the player's sister Langhár draws your attention from a nearby field of clover. The two of you head back Grimbeorn's lodge. Along the way the player spots goblins. Langhár tells the player to warn the others at the entrance to the lodge. You find Sterkist and tell him about the goblins. It is unusual for them to venture this close to home since they fear the Beorn. You overhear Radagast talking to Grimbeorn saying that word of this unusual activity by the goblins needs to be relayed to other folk that can be trusted. Radagast wants him to send all of his kin, but Grimbeorn said he could only spare one, the player. Packing up some belongings, the player makes towards the mountains on horseback. <br />
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:After a long journey, the player arrives in [[Archet]]. The player asks Letty Foxtail if she knows where the Ranger [[Aragorn]] is at as he heard he was heading this way. She says that he did pass this way. She tells the player to seek out [[Jon Brackenbrook]] as he might know more. Jon states that he doesn't know where Aragorn went to. He informs the player that the town was attacked and nearly burned down by [[Blackwolds|Blackwold]] brigands. He says they have slain his father, the leader of Archet and that he is trying to rebuild the settlement. He requests the player's assistance. <small>''The story continues in Prologue: Man and Beorning.''</small><br />
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::'''Hobbit and Man:'''<br />
:''The Hobbit introduction begins at a dusk road in Green Hill Country, via Old Odo's Leaf-farm to a brigand jail somewhere. After a sudden rescue the Hobbit eventually ends up in Archet. The Race of Men introduction begins in a jail in a brigand camp somewhere. After a dramatic and violent escape the Man eventually ends up in Archet. From there the two races' introductions merge.''<br />
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:The player along with two Hobbits escaped the brigand jail with the aid of the Ranger [[Strider]] and his friend [[Amdir (Shadows of Angmar)|Amdir]]. During the escape, Amdir was stabbed by one of the Black Riders. He looks very pale and Strider is concerned for him. Strider wants to find him aid and warn the people of Archet that Blackwolds mean to raid the town. He also mentions that he needs to find a Mister Baggins before the Black Riders do. <br />
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:The player seeks out Captain Brackenbrook and warns him of the Blackwold threat. Yet, he doesn't trust the Rangers that you are with and doesn't believe the player. The player tries to warn other citizens, but no one believes an attack is imminent. Strider is informed that the player is unable to convince anyone that they are in danger. Strider tells the player to hone their skills to prepare for battle. <br />
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:Once the player is finished practicing, Strider requests for the player to find some [[Kingsfoil]] to treat Amdir's wounds. He also suggests aiding Captain Brackenbrook to win over his favor. The captain informs the player where some Kingsfoil grows. He also accepts your aid, telling you to help Calder Cob who has been having problems with wolves on his farm. <br />
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::'''Dwarf and Elf:'''<br />
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::'''High Elf:'''<br />
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::'''Stout-axe:'''<br />
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===Prologue===<br />
There are four different prologues with the dwarf/stout-axe and elf/high elf prologue merging at one point. Although they are initially separated by race, a player of any race can do any of the prologues.<br />
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::'''Dwarf and Stout-axe:'''<br />
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::'''Elf and High Elf:'''<br />
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::'''Dwarf, Stout-axe, Elf and High Elf:'''<br />
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::'''Hobbit:'''<br />
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::'''Man and Beorning:'''<br />
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===Book I - Stirrings in the Darkness===<br />
After the prologue, the player is sent to [[Aragorn]], who needs your help to weaken the Blackwolds, a hostile gang within Breeland, secretly backed by agents of [[Angmar]]. After helping Aragorn and the [[Rangers of the North|Rangers]], they send you to [[Tom Bombadil]] to destroy the evil in Othrongroth, The Great Barrow of the [[Barrow-downs]]. Though the Wightlord Sambrog is defeated, the [[Witch-king]], Ivar and Skorgrim escape. Upon returning to [[Bree]], you discover Aragorn has left with the [[Hobbits]] and the player meets [[Gandalf]], who was too late to help. As he leaves for [[Rivendell]] too, he instructs you to find one of his fellow [[Istari]].<br />
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===Book II - The Red Maid===<br />
[[Radagast|Radagast the Brown]] asks for your help in cleansing Garth Agarwen from the evil wights that inhabit it. Ultimately you and Radagast will fight Ivar the Bloodhand, their leader and a servant of the Witch-king. After succeeding, you are urgently sent to the North Downs to aid the Rangers there.<br />
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===Book III - The Council of the North===<br />
You are asked by [[Halbarad]] to aid in the defence of the North Downs against Angmar's forces, by uniting the three main armies of the North Downs: the Men of Trestlebridge, the [[Dwarves]] led by [[Dori]] and [[Gildor]]'s Elves. After this, You are sent to Rivendell, where the [[Fellowship of the Ring|Fellowship]] has now safely arrived.<br />
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===Book IV - Chasing Shadows===<br />
[[Nazgûl|The Black Rider]] that survived the Flood of [[Elrond]] is still in the [[Trollshaws]], making it impossible for the Fellowship to leave. With the help of [[Legolas]], [[Elladan]] and [[Elrohir]], you chase the Nazgûl, destroying the Trolls he has corrupted, and forcing the Ringwraith to retreat to the [[Misty Mountains]]. You are sent to pursue him, where [[Glóin]] and [[Gimli]] have set up camp.<br />
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===Book V - The Last Refuge===<br />
Your search for the [[Nazgûl]] brings you to the final stronghold of Skorgrim and the Dourhands. An assault led by Gimli will result in the fall of Skorgrim and the Dourhands. But the Nazgûl has fled to Helegrod, where the ancient Dragon Thorog has been revived in order to serve the [[Sauron|Dark Lord]]. You arrive just in time to stop the Nazgûl, defeating him and making the Dragon harmless, for now. Now that Rivendell is safe, it is time to move on to [[Angmar]] itself.<br />
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===Book VI - Fires in the North===<br />
Rangers, led by Corunir and Golodir, have gone to Angmar and their kinsmen want to know what has become of them. Upon entering Angmar, you find Corunir safe in a friendly Hillmen village. He begs you to find his lost company, who passed through Rammas Deluon: a great series of statues that weakens (or even kills) those who pass it. But after destroying the spirits within them, you are able to resist the power of Rammas Deluon, and find a dwarf settlement, where a part of the scattered party lives.<br />
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===Book VII - The Hidden Hope===<br />
You are informed Golodir settled at Gath Forthnir, far in the North. When arriving there, Golodir is gone and the Rangers are led by his daughter, Lorniel. Lorniel reveals that Golodir has been captured by [[Mordirith]], Steward of Angmar, and has been locked away in [[Carn Dûm]]. As leader of the remaining Rangers, and with the help of Laerdan, Lorniel launches an assault on Carn Dûm, where she is slain by Mordirith, who then releases Golodir, to continue his torture. <br />
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===Book VIII - The Scourge of the North===<br />
Golodir's grief for the death of his daughter has almost destroyed him, yet he sees a chance to avenge her. Reclaiming an ancient sword, he travels with you to the heart of [[Carn Dûm]], defeating Mordirith with the blade. Mordirith drops his ''[[palantír]]'', a great seeing stone, which is quickly taken by the mysterious Sara Oakheart.<br />
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:'''Book IX - ''Shores of Evendim'':'''<br />
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You learn Sara Oakheart is no less than [[Amarthiel]], the Champion of Angmar. She has set up a plot from Barad Gularan to use you to weaken Mordirith. Now she has the ''palantír'', she can communicate with Sauron and challenge Mordirith's position. You are sent to kill all of Mordirith's Knights, in an attempt to further weaken his power. But despite your victories over Mordirith, Amarthiel only grows stronger. After losing [[Fornost]] and Barad Gularan, she moves to [[Annúminas]], the ancient capital of [[Arnor]]. The Rangers there, led by Calenglad, need your aid.<br />
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:'''Book X - ''The City of Kings'':'''<br />
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A massive battle in Annúminas ensues, the wise [[Elves|Elf]] Laerdan offers his services to Calenglad. One of Amarthiel's captains is captured, but while in captivity, he angers Laerdan, making the Elf decide to fight Amarthiel on his own, in an attempt to make up for his mistakes in the past. Again the Free People have been tricked by Amarthiel and her servants. Together with the Rangers of Evendim, you are able to wrestle the ''palantír'' from Amarthiel's clutches, but Laerdan is lost. But within the ''palantír'', Amarthiel saw a glimpse of where Narchuil, her ancient ring, lies. She is now determined to possess its power once more.<br />
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:'''Book XI - ''Prisoner of the Free Peoples'':'''<br />
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Amarthiel's captain Mordrambor breaks free, killing many rangers. Soon he leads an army out of [[Annúminas]], to find Amarthiel's Ring, Narchuil. You attempt to find Narchuil before Amarthiel can, searching the ancient ruins of the [[Trollshaws]]. After much searching, it turns out Narmeleth, Laerdan's daughter, who originally caused Amarthiel's fall in Fornost, has become possessed by her. But all searching seems in vain, when it is revealed Amarthiel has already found Narchuil. However, Elrond does not fall for her trickery again, he realises Narchuil is still out there, and Laerdan knows where.<br />
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:'''Book XII - ''The Ashen Wastes'':'''<br />
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Amarthiel has Laerdan transported to Angmar, where she learns from him under torture where her Ring is. In a brave attempt to save both Laerdan and the ring Narchuil, you are able to get to them before Amarthiel does, despite losing another Ranger. But only half of the ring was found. Laerdan confesses to Elrond he has broken Narchuil in two, and where the other part should be. But then he swears an oath upon [[Varda|Elbereth]] that he will not rest before he has saved his daughter, and leaves the Council.<br />
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:'''Book XIII - ''Doom of the Last-King'':'''<br />
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Trying to find out more about the other half of Narchuil, you are sent to [[Forochel]]. However Amarthiel's forces have already arrived, and are already searching. In an attempt to find the ring before the Angmarim, the player receives help from [[Arvedui]]'s Ghost. In the final chapter, it seems Mordrambor has betrayed Amarthiel; the two start to battle and disappear from view. The player then retrieves the second half of Narchuil and returns it to Rivendell.<br />
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:'''Book XIV - ''The Ring-forges of Eregion'':'''<br />
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Still seeking to save Narmeleth, Laerdan travels with the two halves of Narchuil to [[Eregion]]. Amarthiel, baiting him in, reclaims Narchuil for herself. Elrond sends many Heralds of Rivendell to all corners of [[Eriador]] to help him in his search for the lost Ring-lore. But all efforts are too late, for Narchuil has been reforged when the Free People reach Eregion. It quickly becomes clear none are able to withstand Narchuil, until Mordrambor, Amarthiel's former servant, arrives. They go outside, where Mordirith arrives. Mordirith is in power once again, but Amarthiel does not surrender and believes she can defeat him with Narchuil. But Mordirith has the power of the Witch-king and defeats her. Mordrambor claims Narchuil as his own, and when he is about to finish Amarthiel, Laerdan appears. He now knows Mordirith is actually [[Eärnur]], the last King of [[Gondor]]. Mordirith orders Mordrambor to kill Laerdan, after which the two leave. Amarthiel is crying over her father, and set captive by the Free People.<br />
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:'''Book XV - ''Daughter of Strife'':'''<br />
With the death of her father, Narmeleth is once again freed from the evil influence of Amarthiel. Narmeleth becomes a captive of the Free Peoples and she sacrifices herself in order to help defeat Mordrambor and aid the Free Peoples. The book ends bittersweet with Narmeleth's redemption and her death.<br />
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I've been a fan of the world of Middle-earth ever since I first read ''[[The Hobbit]]'' when I was seven years old. I've been reading ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]'' ever summer since high school. Although I enjoyed the books I didn't really study them very closely until Peter Jackson's movies came out. It was about the time that I first read ''[[The Silmarillion]]''.<br />
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I'm also a huge video gamer. I've always been a fan of puzzles and trying to solve problems. I didn't really get into gaming until Zelda for the NES came out. I use to compete against other players for fun and in competitions with prize monies involved. Yet, after college, I haven't had the time to game regularly enough to be competitive and now I just do it for the joy of it. <br />
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I have played some Lord of the Rings video game titles, but not many of them impressed me much at all. The one exception is ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online]]''. I played it about six weeks after it was released and haven't stopped since. Through my love of the video game I picked up ''[[The History of Middle-earth]]'' volumes.<br />
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** <strike>Make articles for each of the expansions and updates for the game.</strike><br />
** Write up the epic story line of the game with each chapter/book being placed in the expansion or patch/update it became available in. The only exception is the race introduction and prologue quests. <br />
** Create a navigational template for each of the epic stories by their quest chain. <br />
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| publisher=[[Turbine|Turbine, Inc]] (North America and Europe)<br />[[Midway Games]]<br />[[Codemasters]] (Europe, till 2010))<br/>[[IT Territory]] (Russia)<ref name="Korea and Russia">{{webcite|author=William Dobson|articleurl=http://www.engadget.com/2009-04-23-lord-of-the-rings-online-launches-in-korea-and-russia.html|articlename=Lord of the Rings Online launches in Korea and Russia|dated=23 April 2009|website=Engadget|accessed=23 August 2020}}</ref><br/>[[NHN Corporation]] (South Korea)<ref name="Korea and Russia"/><br>[[Sakura Internet]] (Japan, till 2009)<ref>{{webcite|author=Karl B.|articleurl=http://qj.net/turbine-eyes-japanese-market-for-lotro-distribution/|articlename=Turbine eyes Japanese market for LotRO distribution|dated=22 September 2006|website=qj.net|accessed=23 August 2020}}</ref><br />
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'''''The Lord of the Rings Online: Shadows of Angmar''''' is a massively multiplayer online role-playing game (MMORPG) set in [[Middle-earth]] during the time of ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]''. It is the initial version of ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online]]'' (LOTRO or LotRO) and is referred to as volume I of the game.<br />
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The game's story line starts at the beginning of ''[[The Fellowship of the Ring]]'' Book I, Chapter III "[[Three is Company]]" and ends at the end of Book II, Chapter II "[[The Council of Elrond]]".<br />
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==Release==<br />
[[Turbine]] and [[Midway Games, Inc.]] officially launched ''The Lord of the Rings Online: Shadows of Angmar'' on April 24th, 2007 in North America for PC computers. [[Codemasters]] handles the European version of the game.<br />
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==Game Play==<br />
In ''Shadows of Angmar'', Turbine allows players to create customized characters ([[elves]], [[dwarves]], [[hobbits]], or [[men]]) to explore Middle-earth as a persistent 3D world environment, undertaking trivial and epic quests (the main story line), and battling against a wide variety of creatures and enemies in player-vs-environment. These are creatures and enemies found in the [[legendarium]]. Players can also craft equipment and consumable items (including the popular varieties of pipe-weed), as well as enjoy recreational activities such as player-generated music.<br />
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The game also has player-vs-player (PvP) combat with the [[free peoples]] fighting player controlled enemies (called "creeps). Once the player levels a free person to level 10 they can create an [[Orcs|orc]], [[uruk-hai]], [[warg]] or [[spider]] and fight against the free peoples. Player-vs-player is limited to the region of the [[Ettenmoors]].<br />
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==Cast==<br />
The majority of the dialog in the game is textually based, but there are some characters with spoken dialog. There are also some characters that will speak a line or two of the dialog, but the rest of the dialog will be text.<br />
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| [[Gandalf]] || [[Harry Chase]]<br />
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| Sandar / Chef Vraz / Warg Rider Goblin || [[Mike Vaughn]]<br />
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| Additional Voices || [[Brian Talbot]]<br />
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| Additional Voices || [[Neil Kaplan]]<br />
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==Epic story line==<br />
The prologue and books one through eight were included with this title. The introduction for Dwarves, Elves, Hobbits and Men were also in ''Shadows of Angmar''. The introduction for Beornings was introduced in the update ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Gondor Aflame|Gondor Aflame]]'', for High Elves in the expansion ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Mordor|Mordor]]'', and for Stout-axes in the expansion ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Minas Morgul|Minas Morgul]]''. The epic story line continues in the patch ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Shores of Evendim|Shores of Evendim]]''.<br />
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:'''Introduction:'''<br />
There are five different introductions depending on the race of the player.<br />
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:::'''Beorning:'''<br />
::The player is spending idle time on the shores of the river [[Anduin]] with another [[Beorn]] named Sterkist, the player's brother. He reflects if there is more to life than spending it gazing at the river after chores are done. The voice of [[Radagast]] is heard coming from [[Grimbeorn|Grimbeorn's]] lodge. Sterkist wonders what brought the wizard to their home. He sends you to Varthmath to see if he knows the answer. If he knows, he's not telling the player. He instructs the player to mind their own business and bring the milk-cow back into her pen. After herding the cow, the player meets up with Ofolmóth who remarks that the player has grown soft. He challenges the player into a spar. After he's had enough, he tells you to hunt the sickle-files that plague the area. After defeating a number of them the player's sister Langhár draws your attention from a nearby field of clover. The two of you head back Grimbeorn's lodge. Along the way the player spots goblins. Langhár tells the player to warn the others at the entrance to the lodge. You find Sterkist and tell him about the goblins. It is unusual for them to venture this close to home since they fear the Beorn. You overhear Radagast talking to Grimbeorn saying that word of this unusual activity by the goblins needs to be relayed to other folk that can be trusted. Radagast wants him to send all of his kin, but Grimbeorn said he could only spare one, the player. Packing up some belongings, the player makes towards the mountains on horseback. <br />
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::After a long journey, the player arrives in [[Archet]]. The player asks Letty Foxtail if she knows where the Ranger [[Aragorn]] is at as he heard he was heading this way. She says that he did pass this way. She tells the player to seek out [[Jon Brackenbrook]] as he might know more. Jon states that he doesn't know where Aragorn went to. He informs the player that the town was attacked and nearly burned down by [[Blackwolds|Blackwold]] brigands. He says they have slain his father, the leader of Archet and that he is trying to rebuild the settlement. He requests the player's assistance. <small>''The story continues in Prologue: Man and Beorning.''</small><br />
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:::'''Hobbit and Man:'''<br />
::''The Hobbit introduction begins at a dusk road in Green Hill Country, via Old Odo's Leaf-farm to a brigand jail somewhere. After a sudden rescue the Hobbit eventually ends up in Archet. The Race of Men introduction begins in a jail in a brigand camp somewhere. After a dramatic and violent escape the Man eventually ends up in Archet. From there the two races' introductions merge.''<br />
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::The player along with two Hobbits escaped the brigand jail with the aid of the Ranger [[Strider]] and his friend [[Amdir (Shadows of Angmar)|Amdir]]. During the escape, Amdir was stabbed by one of the Black Riders. He looks very pale and Strider is concerned for him. Strider wants to find him aid and warn the people of Archet that Blackwolds mean to raid the town. He also mentions that he needs to find a Mister Baggins before the Black Riders do. <br />
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::The player seeks out Captain Brackenbrook and warns him of the Blackwold threat. Yet, he doesn't trust the Rangers that you are with and doesn't believe the player. The player tries to warn other citizens, but no one believes an attack is imminent. Strider is informed that the player is unable to convince anyone that they are in danger. Strider tells the player to hone their skills to prepare for battle. <br />
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::Once the player is finished practicing, Strider requests for the player to find some [[Kingsfoil]] to treat Amdir's wounds. He also suggests aiding Captain Brackenbrook to win over his favor. The captain informs the player where some Kingsfoil grows. He also accepts your aid, telling you to help Calder Cob who has been having problems with wolves on his farm. <br />
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:::'''Dwarf and Elf:'''<br />
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:::'''High Elf:'''<br />
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:::'''Stout-axe:'''<br />
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:'''Prologue:'''<br />
There are four different prologues with the dwarf/stout-axe and elf/high elf prologue merging at one point. Although they are initially separated by race, a player of any race can do any of the prologues.<br />
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:::'''Dwarf and Stout-axe:'''<br />
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:::'''Elf and High Elf:'''<br />
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:::'''Dwarf, Stout-axe, Elf and High Elf:'''<br />
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:::'''Hobbit:'''<br />
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:::'''Man and Beorning:'''<br />
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:'''Book I - ''Stirrings in the Darkness'':'''<br />
After the prologue, the player is sent to [[Aragorn]], who needs your help to weaken the Blackwolds, a hostile gang within Breeland, secretly backed by agents of [[Angmar]]. After helping Aragorn and the [[Rangers of the North|Rangers]], they send you to [[Tom Bombadil]] to destroy the evil in Othrongroth, The Great Barrow of the [[Barrow-downs]]. Though the Wightlord Sambrog is defeated, the [[Witch-king]], Ivar and Skorgrim escape. Upon returning to [[Bree]], you discover Aragorn has left with the [[Hobbits]] and the player meets [[Gandalf]], who was too late to help. As he leaves for [[Rivendell]] too, he instructs you to find one of his fellow [[Istari]].<br />
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:'''Book II - ''The Red Maid'':'''<br />
[[Radagast|Radagast the Brown]] asks for your help in cleansing Garth Agarwen from the evil wights that inhabit it. Ultimately you and Radagast will fight Ivar the Bloodhand, their leader and a servant of the Witch-king. After succeeding, you are urgently sent to the North Downs to aid the Rangers there.<br />
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:'''Book III - ''The Council of the North'':'''<br />
You are asked by [[Halbarad]] to aid in the defence of the North Downs against Angmar's forces, by uniting the three main armies of the North Downs: the Men of Trestlebridge, the [[Dwarves]] led by [[Dori]] and [[Gildor]]'s Elves. After this, You are sent to Rivendell, where the [[Fellowship of the Ring|Fellowship]] has now safely arrived.<br />
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:'''Book IV - ''Chasing Shadows'':'''<br />
[[Nazgûl|The Black Rider]] that survived the Flood of [[Elrond]] is still in the [[Trollshaws]], making it impossible for the Fellowship to leave. With the help of [[Legolas]], [[Elladan]] and [[Elrohir]], you chase the Nazgûl, destroying the Trolls he has corrupted, and forcing the Ringwraith to retreat to the [[Misty Mountains]]. You are sent to pursue him, where [[Glóin]] and [[Gimli]] have set up camp.<br />
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:'''Book V - ''The Last Refuge'':'''<br />
Your search for the [[Nazgûl]] brings you to the final stronghold of Skorgrim and the Dourhands. An assault led by Gimli will result in the fall of Skorgrim and the Dourhands. But the Nazgûl has fled to Helegrod, where the ancient Dragon Thorog has been revived in order to serve the [[Sauron|Dark Lord]]. You arrive just in time to stop the Nazgûl, defeating him and making the Dragon harmless, for now. Now that Rivendell is safe, it is time to move on to [[Angmar]] itself.<br />
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:'''Book VI - ''Fires in the North'':'''<br />
Rangers, led by Corunir and Golodir, have gone to Angmar and their kinsmen want to know what has become of them. Upon entering Angmar, you find Corunir safe in a friendly Hillmen village. He begs you to find his lost company, who passed through Rammas Deluon: a great series of statues that weakens (or even kills) those who pass it. But after destroying the spirits within them, you are able to resist the power of Rammas Deluon, and find a dwarf settlement, where a part of the scattered party lives.<br />
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:'''Book VII - ''The Hidden Hope'':'''<br />
You are informed Golodir settled at Gath Forthnir, far in the North. When arriving there, Golodir is gone and the Rangers are led by his daughter, Lorniel. Lorniel reveals that Golodir has been captured by [[Mordirith]], Steward of Angmar, and has been locked away in [[Carn Dûm]]. As leader of the remaining Rangers, and with the help of Laerdan, Lorniel launches an assault on Carn Dûm, where she is slain by Mordirith, who then releases Golodir, to continue his torture. <br />
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:'''Book VIII - ''The Scourge of the North'':'''<br />
Golodir's grief for the death of his daughter has almost destroyed him, yet he sees a chance to avenge her. Reclaiming an ancient sword, he travels with you to the heart of [[Carn Dûm]], defeating Mordirith with the blade. Mordirith drops his ''[[palantír]]'', a great seeing stone, which is quickly taken by the mysterious Sara Oakheart.<br />
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:'''Book IX - ''Shores of Evendim'':'''<br />
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You learn Sara Oakheart is no less than [[Amarthiel]], the Champion of Angmar. She has set up a plot from Barad Gularan to use you to weaken Mordirith. Now she has the ''palantír'', she can communicate with Sauron and challenge Mordirith's position. You are sent to kill all of Mordirith's Knights, in an attempt to further weaken his power. But despite your victories over Mordirith, Amarthiel only grows stronger. After losing [[Fornost]] and Barad Gularan, she moves to [[Annúminas]], the ancient capital of [[Arnor]]. The Rangers there, led by Calenglad, need your aid.<br />
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:'''Book X - ''The City of Kings'':'''<br />
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A massive battle in Annúminas ensues, the wise [[Elves|Elf]] Laerdan offers his services to Calenglad. One of Amarthiel's captains is captured, but while in captivity, he angers Laerdan, making the Elf decide to fight Amarthiel on his own, in an attempt to make up for his mistakes in the past. Again the Free People have been tricked by Amarthiel and her servants. Together with the Rangers of Evendim, you are able to wrestle the ''palantír'' from Amarthiel's clutches, but Laerdan is lost. But within the ''palantír'', Amarthiel saw a glimpse of where Narchuil, her ancient ring, lies. She is now determined to possess its power once more.<br />
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:'''Book XI - ''Prisoner of the Free Peoples'':'''<br />
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Amarthiel's captain Mordrambor breaks free, killing many rangers. Soon he leads an army out of [[Annúminas]], to find Amarthiel's Ring, Narchuil. You attempt to find Narchuil before Amarthiel can, searching the ancient ruins of the [[Trollshaws]]. After much searching, it turns out Narmeleth, Laerdan's daughter, who originally caused Amarthiel's fall in Fornost, has become possessed by her. But all searching seems in vain, when it is revealed Amarthiel has already found Narchuil. However, Elrond does not fall for her trickery again, he realises Narchuil is still out there, and Laerdan knows where.<br />
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:'''Book XII - ''The Ashen Wastes'':'''<br />
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Amarthiel has Laerdan transported to Angmar, where she learns from him under torture where her Ring is. In a brave attempt to save both Laerdan and the ring Narchuil, you are able to get to them before Amarthiel does, despite losing another Ranger. But only half of the ring was found. Laerdan confesses to Elrond he has broken Narchuil in two, and where the other part should be. But then he swears an oath upon [[Varda|Elbereth]] that he will not rest before he has saved his daughter, and leaves the Council.<br />
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:'''Book XIII - ''Doom of the Last-King'':'''<br />
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Trying to find out more about the other half of Narchuil, you are sent to [[Forochel]]. However Amarthiel's forces have already arrived, and are already searching. In an attempt to find the ring before the Angmarim, the player receives help from [[Arvedui]]'s Ghost. In the final chapter, it seems Mordrambor has betrayed Amarthiel; the two start to battle and disappear from view. The player then retrieves the second half of Narchuil and returns it to Rivendell.<br />
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:'''Book XIV - ''The Ring-forges of Eregion'':'''<br />
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Still seeking to save Narmeleth, Laerdan travels with the two halves of Narchuil to [[Eregion]]. Amarthiel, baiting him in, reclaims Narchuil for herself. Elrond sends many Heralds of Rivendell to all corners of [[Eriador]] to help him in his search for the lost Ring-lore. But all efforts are too late, for Narchuil has been reforged when the Free People reach Eregion. It quickly becomes clear none are able to withstand Narchuil, until Mordrambor, Amarthiel's former servant, arrives. They go outside, where Mordirith arrives. Mordirith is in power once again, but Amarthiel does not surrender and believes she can defeat him with Narchuil. But Mordirith has the power of the Witch-king and defeats her. Mordrambor claims Narchuil as his own, and when he is about to finish Amarthiel, Laerdan appears. He now knows Mordirith is actually [[Eärnur]], the last King of [[Gondor]]. Mordirith orders Mordrambor to kill Laerdan, after which the two leave. Amarthiel is crying over her father, and set captive by the Free People.<br />
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:'''Book XV - ''Daughter of Strife'':'''<br />
With the death of her father, Narmeleth is once again freed from the evil influence of Amarthiel. Narmeleth becomes a captive of the Free Peoples and she sacrifices herself in order to help defeat Mordrambor and aid the Free Peoples. The book ends bittersweet with Narmeleth's redemption and her death.<br />
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| name=The Lord of the Rings Online:<br>Shadows of Angmar<br />
| developer=[[Turbine|Turbine, Inc]]<br />
| publisher=[[Turbine|Turbine, Inc]] (North America and Europe)<br />[[Midway Games]]<br />[[Codemasters]] (Europe, till 2010))<br/>[[IT Territory]] (Russia)<ref name="Korea and Russia">{{webcite|author=William Dobson|articleurl=http://www.engadget.com/2009-04-23-lord-of-the-rings-online-launches-in-korea-and-russia.html|articlename=Lord of the Rings Online launches in Korea and Russia|dated=23 April 2009|website=Engadget|accessed=23 August 2020}}</ref><br/>[[NHN Corporation]] (South Korea)<ref name="Korea and Russia"/><br>[[Sakura Internet]] (Japan, till 2009)<ref>{{webcite|author=Karl B.|articleurl=http://qj.net/turbine-eyes-japanese-market-for-lotro-distribution/|articlename=Turbine eyes Japanese market for LotRO distribution|dated=22 September 2006|website=qj.net|accessed=23 August 2020}}</ref><br />
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| releasedate=[[24 April|April 24]], [[2007]]<br />
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'''''The Lord of the Rings Online: Shadows of Angmar''''' is a massively multiplayer online role-playing game (MMORPG) set in [[Middle-earth]] during the time of ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]''. It is the initial version of ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online]]'' (LOTRO or LotRO) and is referred to as volume I of the game.<br />
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The game's story line starts at the beginning of ''[[The Fellowship of the Ring]]'' Book I, Chapter III "[[Three is Company]]" and ends at the end of Book II, Chapter II "[[The Council of Elrond]]".<br />
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==Release==<br />
[[Turbine]] and [[Midway Games, Inc.]] officially launched ''The Lord of the Rings Online: Shadows of Angmar'' on April 24th, 2007 in North America for PC computers. [[Codemasters]] handles the European version of the game.<br />
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==Game Play==<br />
In ''Shadows of Angmar'', Turbine allows players to create customized characters ([[elves]], [[dwarves]], [[hobbits]], or [[men]]) to explore Middle-earth as a persistent 3D world environment, undertaking trivial and epic quests (the main story line), and battling against a wide variety of creatures and enemies in player-vs-environment. These are creatures and enemies found in the [[legendarium]]. Players can also craft equipment and consumable items (including the popular varieties of pipe-weed), as well as enjoy recreational activities such as player-generated music.<br />
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The game also has player-vs-player (PvP) combat with the [[free peoples]] fighting player controlled enemies (called "creeps). Once the player levels a free person to level 10 they can create an [[Orcs|orc]], [[uruk-hai]], [[warg]] or [[spider]] and fight against the free peoples. Player-vs-player is limited to the region of the [[Ettenmoors]].<br />
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==Cast==<br />
The majority of the dialog in the game is textually based, but there are some characters with spoken dialog. There are also some characters that will speak a line or two of the dialog, but the rest of the dialog will be text.<br />
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| [[Gandalf]] || [[Harry Chase]]<br />
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| Sandar / Chef Vraz / Warg Rider Goblin || [[Mike Vaughn]]<br />
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| Additional Voices || [[Brian Talbot]]<br />
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| Additional Voices || [[Neil Kaplan]]<br />
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|}<br />
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==Epic story line==<br />
The prologue and books one through eight were included with this title. The introduction for Dwarves, Elves, Hobbits and Men were also in ''Shadows of Angmar''. The introduction for Beornings was introduced in the update ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Gondor Aflame|Gondor Aflame]]'', for High Elves in the expansion ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Mordor|Mordor]]'', and for Stout-axes in the expansion ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Minas Morgul|Minas Morgul]]''. The epic story line continues in the patch ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Shores of Evendim|Shores of Evendim]]''.<br />
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:'''Introduction:'''<br />
There are five different introductions depending on the race of the player.<br />
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:::'''Beorning:'''<br />
::The player is spending idle time on the shores of the river [[Anduin]] with another [[Beorn]] named Sterkist, the player's brother. He reflects if there is more to life than spending it gazing at the river after chores are done. The voice of [[Radagast]] is heard coming from [[Grimbeorn|Grimbeorn's]] lodge. Sterkist wonders what brought the wizard to their home. He sends you to Varthmath to see if he knows the answer. If he knows, he's not telling the player. He instructs the player to mind their own business and bring the milk-cow back into her pen. After herding the cow, the player meets up with Ofolmóth who remarks that the player has grown soft. He challenges the player into a spar. After he's had enough, he tells you to hunt the sickle-files that plague the area. After defeating a number of them the player's sister Langhár draws your attention from a nearby field of clover. The two of you head back Grimbeorn's lodge. Along the way the player spots goblins. Langhár tells the player to warn the others at the entrance to the lodge. You find Sterkist and tell him about the goblins. It is unusual for them to venture this close to home since they fear the Beorn. You overhear Radagast talking to Grimbeorn saying that word of this unusual activity by the goblins needs to be relayed to other folk that can be trusted. Radagast wants him to send all of his kin, but Grimbeorn said he could only spare one, the player. Packing up some belongings, the player makes towards the mountains on horseback. <br />
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::After a long journey, the player arrives in [[Archet]]. The player asks Letty Foxtail if she knows where the Ranger [[Aragorn]] is at as he heard he was heading this way. She says that he did pass this way. She tells the player to seek out [[Jon Brackenbrook]] as he might know more. Jon states that he doesn't know where Aragorn went to. He informs the player that the town was attacked and nearly burned down by [[Blackwolds|Blackwold]] brigands. He says they have slain his father, the leader of Archet and that he is trying to rebuild the settlement. He requests the player's assistance. <small>''The story continues in Prologue: Man and Beorning.''</small><br />
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:::'''Hobbit and Man:'''<br />
::''The Hobbit introduction begins at a dusk road in Green Hill Country, via Old Odo's Leaf-farm to a brigand jail somewhere. After a sudden rescue the Hobbit eventually ends up in Archet. The Race of Men introduction begins in a jail in a brigand camp somewhere. After a dramatic and violent escape the Man eventually ends up in Archet. From there the two races' introductions merge.''<br />
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::The player along with two Hobbits escaped the brigand jail with the aid of the Ranger [[Strider]] and his friend [[Amdir]]. During the escape, Amdir was stabbed by one of the Black Riders. He looks very pale and Strider is concerned for him. Strider wants to find him aid and warn the people of Archet that Blackwolds mean to raid the town. He also mentions that he needs to find a Mister Baggins before the Black Riders do. <br />
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::The player seeks out Captain Brackenbrook and warns him of the Blackwold threat. Yet, he doesn't trust the Rangers that you are with and doesn't believe the player. The player tries to warn other citizens, but no one believes an attack is imminent. Strider is informed that the player is unable to convince anyone that they are in danger. Strider tells the player to hone their skills to prepare for battle. <br />
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::Once the player is finished practicing, Strider requests for the player to find some [[Kingsfoil]] to treat Amdir's wounds. He also suggests aiding Captain Brackenbrook to win over his favor. The captain informs the player where some Kingsfoil grows. He also accepts your aid, telling you to help Calder Cob who has been having problems with wolves on his farm. <br />
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:::'''Dwarf and Elf:'''<br />
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:::'''High Elf:'''<br />
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:::'''Stout-axe:'''<br />
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:'''Prologue:'''<br />
There are four different prologues with the dwarf/stout-axe and elf/high elf prologue merging at one point. Although they are initially separated by race, a player of any race can do any of the prologues.<br />
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:::'''Dwarf and Stout-axe:'''<br />
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:::'''Elf and High Elf:'''<br />
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:::'''Dwarf, Stout-axe, Elf and High Elf:'''<br />
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:::'''Hobbit:'''<br />
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:::'''Man and Beorning:'''<br />
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:'''Book I - ''Stirrings in the Darkness'':'''<br />
After the prologue, the player is sent to [[Aragorn]], who needs your help to weaken the Blackwolds, a hostile gang within Breeland, secretly backed by agents of [[Angmar]]. After helping Aragorn and the [[Rangers of the North|Rangers]], they send you to [[Tom Bombadil]] to destroy the evil in Othrongroth, The Great Barrow of the [[Barrow-downs]]. Though the Wightlord Sambrog is defeated, the [[Witch-king]], Ivar and Skorgrim escape. Upon returning to [[Bree]], you discover Aragorn has left with the [[Hobbits]] and the player meets [[Gandalf]], who was too late to help. As he leaves for [[Rivendell]] too, he instructs you to find one of his fellow [[Istari]].<br />
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:'''Book II - ''The Red Maid'':'''<br />
[[Radagast|Radagast the Brown]] asks for your help in cleansing Garth Agarwen from the evil wights that inhabit it. Ultimately you and Radagast will fight Ivar the Bloodhand, their leader and a servant of the Witch-king. After succeeding, you are urgently sent to the North Downs to aid the Rangers there.<br />
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:'''Book III - ''The Council of the North'':'''<br />
You are asked by [[Halbarad]] to aid in the defence of the North Downs against Angmar's forces, by uniting the three main armies of the North Downs: the Men of Trestlebridge, the [[Dwarves]] led by [[Dori]] and [[Gildor]]'s Elves. After this, You are sent to Rivendell, where the [[Fellowship of the Ring|Fellowship]] has now safely arrived.<br />
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:'''Book IV - ''Chasing Shadows'':'''<br />
[[Nazgûl|The Black Rider]] that survived the Flood of [[Elrond]] is still in the [[Trollshaws]], making it impossible for the Fellowship to leave. With the help of [[Legolas]], [[Elladan]] and [[Elrohir]], you chase the Nazgûl, destroying the Trolls he has corrupted, and forcing the Ringwraith to retreat to the [[Misty Mountains]]. You are sent to pursue him, where [[Glóin]] and [[Gimli]] have set up camp.<br />
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:'''Book V - ''The Last Refuge'':'''<br />
Your search for the [[Nazgûl]] brings you to the final stronghold of Skorgrim and the Dourhands. An assault led by Gimli will result in the fall of Skorgrim and the Dourhands. But the Nazgûl has fled to Helegrod, where the ancient Dragon Thorog has been revived in order to serve the [[Sauron|Dark Lord]]. You arrive just in time to stop the Nazgûl, defeating him and making the Dragon harmless, for now. Now that Rivendell is safe, it is time to move on to [[Angmar]] itself.<br />
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:'''Book VI - ''Fires in the North'':'''<br />
Rangers, led by Corunir and Golodir, have gone to Angmar and their kinsmen want to know what has become of them. Upon entering Angmar, you find Corunir safe in a friendly Hillmen village. He begs you to find his lost company, who passed through Rammas Deluon: a great series of statues that weakens (or even kills) those who pass it. But after destroying the spirits within them, you are able to resist the power of Rammas Deluon, and find a dwarf settlement, where a part of the scattered party lives.<br />
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:'''Book VII - ''The Hidden Hope'':'''<br />
You are informed Golodir settled at Gath Forthnir, far in the North. When arriving there, Golodir is gone and the Rangers are led by his daughter, Lorniel. Lorniel reveals that Golodir has been captured by [[Mordirith]], Steward of Angmar, and has been locked away in [[Carn Dûm]]. As leader of the remaining Rangers, and with the help of Laerdan, Lorniel launches an assault on Carn Dûm, where she is slain by Mordirith, who then releases Golodir, to continue his torture. <br />
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:'''Book VIII - ''The Scourge of the North'':'''<br />
Golodir's grief for the death of his daughter has almost destroyed him, yet he sees a chance to avenge her. Reclaiming an ancient sword, he travels with you to the heart of [[Carn Dûm]], defeating Mordirith with the blade. Mordirith drops his ''[[palantír]]'', a great seeing stone, which is quickly taken by the mysterious Sara Oakheart.<br />
<!--- TO BE ADDED TO SEPARATE ARTICLES IN NEAR FUTURE<br />
:'''Book IX - ''Shores of Evendim'':'''<br />
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You learn Sara Oakheart is no less than [[Amarthiel]], the Champion of Angmar. She has set up a plot from Barad Gularan to use you to weaken Mordirith. Now she has the ''palantír'', she can communicate with Sauron and challenge Mordirith's position. You are sent to kill all of Mordirith's Knights, in an attempt to further weaken his power. But despite your victories over Mordirith, Amarthiel only grows stronger. After losing [[Fornost]] and Barad Gularan, she moves to [[Annúminas]], the ancient capital of [[Arnor]]. The Rangers there, led by Calenglad, need your aid.<br />
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:'''Book X - ''The City of Kings'':'''<br />
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A massive battle in Annúminas ensues, the wise [[Elves|Elf]] Laerdan offers his services to Calenglad. One of Amarthiel's captains is captured, but while in captivity, he angers Laerdan, making the Elf decide to fight Amarthiel on his own, in an attempt to make up for his mistakes in the past. Again the Free People have been tricked by Amarthiel and her servants. Together with the Rangers of Evendim, you are able to wrestle the ''palantír'' from Amarthiel's clutches, but Laerdan is lost. But within the ''palantír'', Amarthiel saw a glimpse of where Narchuil, her ancient ring, lies. She is now determined to possess its power once more.<br />
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:'''Book XI - ''Prisoner of the Free Peoples'':'''<br />
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Amarthiel's captain Mordrambor breaks free, killing many rangers. Soon he leads an army out of [[Annúminas]], to find Amarthiel's Ring, Narchuil. You attempt to find Narchuil before Amarthiel can, searching the ancient ruins of the [[Trollshaws]]. After much searching, it turns out Narmeleth, Laerdan's daughter, who originally caused Amarthiel's fall in Fornost, has become possessed by her. But all searching seems in vain, when it is revealed Amarthiel has already found Narchuil. However, Elrond does not fall for her trickery again, he realises Narchuil is still out there, and Laerdan knows where.<br />
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:'''Book XII - ''The Ashen Wastes'':'''<br />
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Amarthiel has Laerdan transported to Angmar, where she learns from him under torture where her Ring is. In a brave attempt to save both Laerdan and the ring Narchuil, you are able to get to them before Amarthiel does, despite losing another Ranger. But only half of the ring was found. Laerdan confesses to Elrond he has broken Narchuil in two, and where the other part should be. But then he swears an oath upon [[Varda|Elbereth]] that he will not rest before he has saved his daughter, and leaves the Council.<br />
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:'''Book XIII - ''Doom of the Last-King'':'''<br />
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Trying to find out more about the other half of Narchuil, you are sent to [[Forochel]]. However Amarthiel's forces have already arrived, and are already searching. In an attempt to find the ring before the Angmarim, the player receives help from [[Arvedui]]'s Ghost. In the final chapter, it seems Mordrambor has betrayed Amarthiel; the two start to battle and disappear from view. The player then retrieves the second half of Narchuil and returns it to Rivendell.<br />
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:'''Book XIV - ''The Ring-forges of Eregion'':'''<br />
<br />
Still seeking to save Narmeleth, Laerdan travels with the two halves of Narchuil to [[Eregion]]. Amarthiel, baiting him in, reclaims Narchuil for herself. Elrond sends many Heralds of Rivendell to all corners of [[Eriador]] to help him in his search for the lost Ring-lore. But all efforts are too late, for Narchuil has been reforged when the Free People reach Eregion. It quickly becomes clear none are able to withstand Narchuil, until Mordrambor, Amarthiel's former servant, arrives. They go outside, where Mordirith arrives. Mordirith is in power once again, but Amarthiel does not surrender and believes she can defeat him with Narchuil. But Mordirith has the power of the Witch-king and defeats her. Mordrambor claims Narchuil as his own, and when he is about to finish Amarthiel, Laerdan appears. He now knows Mordirith is actually [[Eärnur]], the last King of [[Gondor]]. Mordirith orders Mordrambor to kill Laerdan, after which the two leave. Amarthiel is crying over her father, and set captive by the Free People.<br />
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:'''Book XV - ''Daughter of Strife'':'''<br />
With the death of her father, Narmeleth is once again freed from the evil influence of Amarthiel. Narmeleth becomes a captive of the Free Peoples and she sacrifices herself in order to help defeat Mordrambor and aid the Free Peoples. The book ends bittersweet with Narmeleth's redemption and her death.<br />
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==Hello!==<br />
Thanks for your recent contributions, LorenzoCB! When you write at talk pages, please make sure to sign your posts with <nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki>, which will automatically show a link to your user name and date/time when writing the post.<br />
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--[[User:Morgan|Morgan]] 22:15, 3 May 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== Middle-earτh Shadow of War ==<br />
Hello. Can you upload at least one image related to the videogame [[Middle-earth: Shadow of War|Middle-earth Shadow of War]]?I don't have the ability to upload images on Tolkien Gateway but you do have this ability.<br />
:Hi! I recommend you to make your own account, then you can write all the article about Middle-earth: Shadow of War, as it is almost empty and you seem to be very interested on it. When you get 50 editions you'll be able to upload images. Now please, stop spamming about that. I won't do it, I personally don't like those games.--[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 14:40, 11 June 2019 (UTC)<br />
Hello. I would like to upload an image on page [[Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor]] but I can't upload images on Tolkien Gateway. Can you upload this image that I have uploaded on the specific page.<br />
:There you have it :) You need 50 edits to upload images, btw. Hope you can get them improving the game articles. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 22:11, 20 August 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== Dagor Dagorath ==<br />
Hi LorenzoCB, great job on your rewriting of the [[Dagor Dagorath]] article! Also, thank you for the kind corrections of my woeful ignorance of early names for characters in the Legendarium. Oops. :) --{{User:Holdwine Meriadoc/sig}} 18:26, 26 August 2019 (UTC)<br />
:It was just a detail. Thank you for correcting my English, I couldn't imagine I made so many grammatical mistakes! --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 23:03, 26 August 2019 (UTC)<br />
::Your English is a lot better than my Spanish :) And I'm just picky when it comes to grammar! --{{User:Holdwine Meriadoc/sig}}<br />
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== Help ==<br />
Can you help me fix what I have done on page Isildur because I don't know what to do.<br />
:I didn't see many problems. I fixed the style. Btw, I added the cover of Shadows of War. Last time I confused the games and uploaded the one for Shadows of Mordor :P Remember to sign when you write in a talkpage. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 17:09, 28 August 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== Image categories ==<br />
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Hi there. I don't know if you've noticed but there has been a convention (which isn't fully realised but increasingly I have slowly implemented) that for image categories the order has been 1) Artist 2) Where it's from 3) what/who it is depicting and these should be listed in alphabetical order (see [[:File:Alan Lee - The Elvenking's Gate.jpg]] as an example). If you could keep this in mind when changing or adding categories that would be appreciated. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 07:36, 5 September 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Hi! Thanks for explaining that. I was trying to include the categories in alphabetical order, as I didn't relize there was a formal style for that. I'll do as you say. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 11:53, 5 September 2019 (UTC)<br />
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:Sure, although [[:File:Mysilvergreen - In a dungeon.jpg|this one]] and [[:File:Ted Nasmith - Tuor and Voronwë See Túrin at the Pool of Ivrin.jpg|this one]] weren't in alphabetical order. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 12:03, 5 September 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== Webcite ==<br />
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Hi. Just a note to remind you that, as per the usage information on [[Template:Webcite]], the "accessed" field is not optional; you should use this to show the date you accessed the page. Thanks! --{{User:Mith/sig}} 12:08, 23 September 2019 (UTC)<br />
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:As the date showed up authomatically I wasn't including it the last times, but now I see that it was just some kind of preview. Thanks for pointing it out. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 12:19, 23 September 2019 (UTC)<br />
==Lost Tales==<br />
Hi Lorenzo, I appreciate much your work on expanding the pages on HoMe.<br />
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Sometimes I have been thinking if we should dedicate some virtual "space" of this wiki for the Lost Tales continuity, I mean we already have LT-related articles like [[Gruir]], [[Gilfanon]], [[Noldoli]], [[Inglor]] and so on. However for topics that are covered in published canon, we use the "Other version of the Legendarium" section, see for example [[Tol_Eressea#Other_versions_of_the_Legendarium]] or [[Mandos#Other_versions_of_the_Legendarium]]. But I believe there is much more that deserves to be told about the LT topics. So I had the thought about creating alternate pages dedicated to the "alternate" versions of those topics, something like [[Tol Eressea (Lost Tales)]]. Perhaps we should also include them in categories like "Lost Tales characters" or "Lost Tales locations" and even have some template on the top of each article that notifies we are talking about the "Lost Tales continuity", instead of the generic one about Tolkien's early, unfinished and best thoughts. So we can have a fully functional sub-wiki within the wiki covering the LT topics in a clean way. Similar to how Wookieepedia handles the Canon and the Legends articles.<br />
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These are my first thoughts, and I'd like to know your thoughts, before opening a forum topic. [[User:Sage|Sage]] 23:44, 1 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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:Hi Sage! Actually, I hate templates on the top of articles (because of how they look), but yours seems a good idea. It could help to clean the sections of OVOTL, that sometimes are a messy hotchpotch. However, I would wait until we have completed at least all the chapter summaries. The LT are a difficult topic, as there is not really a continuity (for example, I personally think that Christopher should have published the ''Part Two'' first), so I think it would be better to have a good base before clasifying things. And yes, I have planned to make those summaries at some point, don't know when.<br />
:Happy new year. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 00:28, 2 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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Hello again. Please have a look at the article [[Chasm of Ilmen]] and tell me if we can identify which is the particular earlier (1931) and later (1951) Silmarillion CT says about. Obviously he refers to the Quenta Noldorinwa and the Later Quenta? Or perhaps one of them is the Quenta of the Lost Road? I am not very comfortable with the versions and the dates. [[User:Sage|Sage]] 17:43, 22 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:Hello. It took me a while to find the page, you should try to include them more often (if you have the book on hand, of course). Yes, "the 'Silmarillion' that followed Q" (1937) is the ''[[Quenta Silmarillion (Lost Road)]]'' (he cites LR p.242), while the text used in the 77's ''Silmarillion'' is ''Annals of Aman'' §177 (1951). --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 19:06, 22 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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==Thank you==<br />
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Thank you for fixing my error on Christopher’s death date, LorenzoCB! I originally did have it as 16 January, but then I saw it as 15 January and thought it was an incorrect time conversion on my part. Whoops! — {{User:Holdwine Meriadoc/sig}} 23:15, 20 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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:Don't worry. That error has been giving problems in Wikipedia, as many newspapers were giving it mistakenly, and seems like the own Tolkien Family asked to some Tolkien Societies to clarify it.--[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 10:36, 21 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
==Foaloke==<br />
The foaloke is a type of dragon distinct from the Uruloke, it shouldn't be discussed in the same article. I think all relevant information should be contained in its distinct article. [[User:Sage|Sage]] 17:26, 13 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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:''[[Foa]]'' was changed to mean "breath", but it doesn't specify if it is because a foaloke "breathes fire" (being then an uruloke), which is the most obvious deduction, as a dragon that just breathes has nothing in particular. However, I agree with having a separated article, but you should make it starting from ''foa'' as "breath", not "hoard". In OVOTL could be included the description of Glorund as a foaloke. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 19:04, 13 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Sauron ==<br />
Firstly, I am not explaining Sauron's origins, but why he fell. Introductions should never be blunt. The sections expand the content of briefly presented in the introduction. <br />
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Secondly, the quote I put is from The Silmarillion - Valaquenta: Of the Enemies. Take a look if you will, I believe it is the last sentence in the paragraph concerning Sauron. --[[User:LordoftheEarth|LordoftheEarth]] 12:51, 31 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
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:Ah, as you removed all my edit, I didn't see you later put the quote that there was in the first place. If you want to help the wiki, there are many things that need to be improved: [[Tolkien Gateway:To-do]]. But the Sauron article is one of the few that are pretty fine, that's why I'm concerned with it.--[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 12:59, 31 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
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Sorry if I myself am not that receptive or even annoying at times ... I'm having a bad time ... broke up with a girl and all that ... Let's leave the Sauron article as it is for now. I added on the talk page that I changed the image so if someone thinks it doesn't work then we'll change it. I'll try to help out on other articles as well, of course. I appreciate your dedication to the wiki! A nice time till next time! --[[User:LordoftheEarth|LordoftheEarth]] 13:07, 31 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
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:Sorry for being harsh when I point out the mistakes in your Talkpage. I get nervous when people make many edits for just one article, but I should have been more polite. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 16:11, 31 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
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I would like to point out that I disagree with the choices of the new pics. However I would like to say that some of the recent edits were legit and shouldn't be reverted. When a user makes a lot of edits and another user doesn't agree with stylistic mistakes, they shouldn't revert all the edits, but rather fix the particular points. [[User:Sage|Sage]] 17:10, 31 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Melkor's Messenger ==<br />
I edited out Sauron and Ungoliant of the Servants of Melkor category, the reasons why are faily logical. Leaving these aside, does it say anyway if Melkor's messenger, Langon, in the Book of Lost Tales is an Ainu? I saw he is mentioned as such in the Allies and Servants of Morgoth section and I don't remember J.R.R. saying anything on Langon's nature. This is all I found on this emissary:<br />
"Melko heard him and was in doubt, he would not come, but sent Langon his servant..."--[[User:LordoftheEarth|LordoftheEarth]] 12:34, 1 June 2020 (UTC)<br />
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:I disagree with removing that category from Sauron. He was his servant for a whole age. He can also have the category of 'Evil' because he later became independent, but he was a true servant, it doesn't matter if he forsook Morgoth; unlike Ungoliant, who was never under Morgoth's command. I fixed the info of [[Langon]], thanks for pointing that out. But there are better things than caring for the categories.--[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 13:49, 1 June 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Lost Tales ==<br />
Can you give me an example about that Gnomes category? For example, we should add this to the articles about Feanor and Beren ? [[User:Sage|Sage]] 18:41, 14 June 2020 (UTC)<br />
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:I mean for those characters that didn't have a development beyond the "Gnome" phase, like [[Gilfanon]], [[Littleheart]]... If in the future we make articles for Beren the Gnome and others, that category would be applied. But now those examples are categorized as "Noldor", anachronically. (You can answer me in your talkpage, btw). --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 19:37, 14 June 2020 (UTC)<br />
==Oropher==<br />
Please have a look at [[Talk:Oropher]]. There is a passage that has been overlooked. I think the page about Oropher itself, as well as topics about the Elves of Lindon, the Sindar etc have some mistakes concerning their migrations. [[User:Sage|Sage]] 10:46, 14 July 2020 (UTC)<br />
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:Answered, I hope I helped. Do you take care of the matter? --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 13:39, 14 July 2020 (UTC)<br />
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==Eduardo Segura==<br />
Hey why did you remove the information and link from the article without an explanation? <br />
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And why do you plan leaving here? That was ''lathspel''. [[User:Sage|Sage]] 18:42, 4 August 2020 (UTC)<br />
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:Eduardo did work as a consultant for the movies, but he told me he had no impact, so it was not pertinent to include that info. He also asked me to remove that link, as he lost his web domain. Sorry, I should have indicated that, but as I am the only one involved with that article I didn't bother. <br />
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:I'm leaving because the wiki requires time, and I want to focus more on other projects and on my spiritual life. Also, I feel many things are gonna change soon and I don't think I'll be able to edit. But I'm still around here, I want to finish some things before. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 19:00, 4 August 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Image of Tevildo ==<br />
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I was just wondering, where did you get that image (I know it's from "Beren and Lúthien", but where, specifically, did you find it on the internet)?<br />
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Also, where did you find the title of the image? --[[User:IvarTheBoneless|IvarTheBoneless]]<br />
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:I found it on the internet, yes, Pinterest or something. I just searched one with a good quality and then I removed the frame following the policy of the wiki. Usually the images of Alan Lee have the title of the chapter from where they come, but there is no rule about that, so I put a more pertinent title. Are you sure we need a gallery for ''Beren and Lúthien''? That imples uploading all its images... --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 12:17, 12 August 2020 (UTC)<br />
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::Well, I'm planning to upload the entirety of Alan Lee's artwork from both "Beren and Lúthien" as well as those from "The Fall of Gondolin", yet I'm not sure on what should the appropriate title for those images should be. <br />
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::For example, take a look at this [http://misbehavingmaiarhome.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/tumblr_p615bfVvjf1tlkwg5o4_1280.jpg image] from "Beren and Lúthien". In the list of plates from the aforementioned book, this particular image is named ''"Surely that is a Silmaril that shines now in the West?"''. --[[User:IvarTheBoneless|IvarTheBoneless]]<br />
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:::Oh, if the images are titled in the book, then we should use those titles. I'll change the title of the one with Tevildo when I can check my book. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 15:11, 12 August 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Grammar on your user page ==<br />
The past tense for the verb to teach in the third paragraph of your user page is wrong. You should write "Tolkien tought me ...". To teach is a verb with an irregular past tense. The past tense of teach is tought. I am not going to write anything in spanish here, but you are welcome to correct my spanish if I ever write anything in spanish. I picked up some spanish by listening to people and by reading the Diario de Cadiz during vacations in Spain (I have to admit that I had latin at school and french at school and at university, so I had some basis in roman languages to start from). My native language is german. I once read an article about books owned by J.R.R. Tolkien and was amazed to see that most of the books o that list were written in german. --[[User:Akhorahil|Akhorahil]] 20:19, 2 October 2020 (UTC)<br />
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:Much appreciated! You can freely edit my Userpage if you want correct any grammar mistake. I'm searching now about it and the past tense of teach is actually t'''a'''ught: seems that t'''o'''ught is a common mistake, but thanks again for pointing out mine. About Tolkien's German books, Philology had had a strong development in Germany some time before Tolkien began college, so it was imperative for him to have those. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 20:47, 2 October 2020 (UTC)<br />
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::You are correct. The past tense of the verb teach is taught. Taught is one of the few words in english that end with aught. More words end with ought and are pronounced in the same way as words ending with aught. --[[User:Akhorahil|Akhorahil]] 13:45, 4 October 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Helge Fauskanger Optimal LOTR Prequel Movie ==<br />
Have you ever read Helge's article about the Westernesse Movie? It would be cool, if Amazon Prime would read his article and adapt it like that.{{unsigned|Akhorahil}}<br />
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:Yes! I wish that too, it has very good ideas. But it is also too short, as it is only about Númenor, and Númenor only comes into the Second Age scenario after hundred of years. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 18:24, 21 October 2020 (UTC)<br />
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==Clarily==<br />
First off, I just wanted to say thank you for all the work you've done on TG, it's always nice to see your username pop up under recent changes. I did want to mention clarily though, since I'm not entirely sure it's a word. I've seen you use it a few times, especially in etymology sections. It might just be a reoccurring typo; I think the word you're going for is "clearly". Sorry for being nitpicky, and for bugging you, I just wanted to let you know. --[[User:Grace18|Grace18]] 02:11, 4 December 2020 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks for your words and correction. My English is still on work, so it is a relieve that we can count with users that take care of grammar. Feel free to correct my edits, I'll propably see it and learn from it. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 09:13, 4 December 2020 (UTC)<br />
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==Names of Sauron==<br />
You can find the sources for the names and titles of Sauron that you asked for in the "Summary:" text box of your latest edit to the Sauron page on the Sauron page in the Origin section, in the Second Age section in the second paragraph, in the Black Years section in the last paragraph, in the On Númenor section in the second paragraph, in the The Necromancer section in the first paragraph, in the Etymology section and in the Other names and title section. If you have e-books of The Lord of the Rings and of the Silmarillion you can enter a name or title in the search field and look in which chapter or chapters on in which entry in the index it is included. --[[User:Akhorahil|Akhorahil]] 14:43, 22 December 2020 (UTC)<br />
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:I know the references of the Elvish names (I included most of them). I meant the names like 'Dark Power' , 'Black One', 'Black Hand', 'Nameless', which do not have any reference through the article or the Names section. I think I'm removing those until somebody provides proper references. The infobox is ridiculously long. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 15:26, 22 December 2020 (UTC)<br />
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:Whatever. I'll try to find the references myself. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 15:29, 22 December 2020 (UTC)<br />
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::I can try to help pin some of them down. 'Black Hand' appears a couple pages into the "Of Túrin Turambar" chapter in the ''Silmarillion'', although I can't tell if that refers to Morgoth or Sauron, I would have to reread the chapter. However, in ''The Two Towers'', in The Black Gate is Closed, Gollum uses the name 'Black Hand' twice in reference to Sauron: "But master is going to take it to him, straight the the Black Hand" "He has only four [fingers] on the Black Hand". In ''Return of the King'' under The Pyre of Denethor, Gandalf twice refers to Sauron as the Dark Power, and the term is used later in the book. I'll work on some of the others, and try to add the references once I find them. Do the references just go in the infobox next to each name, and should all the names be references, even those that appear later in the article? --[[User:Grace18|Grace18]] 16:06, 22 December 2020 (UTC)<br />
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:::That's useful, thanks! I'm making a proper list in the Names section, there we can include the references and explanation when necessary. We should avoid including references within the infobox, as it is suppoused to be a summary of the article (at least that's how I see it). --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 16:12, 22 December 2020 (UTC)<br />
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::::Sounds good! Is there a list of names still missing their sources that I can work off of? I don't want to end up redoing work someone else has already done. Looking at the article right now, it's hard for me to see what is sourced and unsourced among the names. --[[User:Grace18|Grace18]] 16:16, 22 December 2020 (UTC)<br />
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:::::I claimed the article because this is a tough topic, now I'm checking articles about specific names of him. The names of the Valar are quite a mess, but looks like [[Aragorn]] and [[Morgoth]] are more urgent. You'll probably have to deal with names randomly separated in articles, which should be merged with the main article (or not if they are names shared by others). --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 17:06, 22 December 2020 (UTC)<br />
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::::::Okay. I will look into the Aragorn and Morgoth articles and see what I can do. By the way, you may already have this, but I did a bit more hunting around for the other names of Sauron you mentioned: 'Black One' is used by Gollum to refer to Sauron in ''The Two Towers'' under The Black Gate is Closed. 'Nameless One' is used by Faramir in ''The Two Towers'' under A Window on the West, and is later used by the men of Gondor in ''Return of the King'' under the Siege of Gondor. --[[User:Grace18|Grace18]] 17:13, 22 December 2020 (UTC)<br />
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:::::::No, I haven't checked those yet, you saved me time, much appreciated. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 18:12, 22 December 2020 (UTC)<br />
==First Age==<br />
Hey, which "single reference" are you referring to, and what is the "wiki's policy" concerning the "First Age of the Sun"? I am not aware of any such explicit policy and I think the "Ages of the Sun" is a fanon term (I looked for it in HoMe). [[User:Sage|Sage]] 09:47, 25 February 2021 (UTC)<br />
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:As far as I know, the main reference to the "First Age" as the continuation of the Elder Days is the one from the Appendices that says the Exile of the Noldor happened at the end of the First Age. However, Tolkien, the wiki and the fandom use massively the term to refer to the [[Timeline/First Age|dates]] after the rising of the Sun; it is not an explicit policy, but quite implicit. I said "First Age of the Sun" just to point out the difference between the different conceptions, I'm not proposing anything. There is a terminology hole and we should clarify that before mixing things around.--[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 11:18, 25 February 2021 (UTC)<br />
::There is also a reference in HoMe that says that the First Age is much longer. Tolkien uses FA dates in the Grey Annals I think, but he doesn't equate FA 1 with solar year 1. This is a convention that began with Foster, which he admits is only a convention, and we follow it for better or worse, but no way it is a policy of the wiki, implicit or not, that we should consider everywhere in the articles that the First Age began in what Foster terms FA 1. Perhaps you might find some such references made years ago by other editors but it is not the first nor the last misconception that we detect in hindsight and we try to fix. On the contrary, that's what we should do. And yea, we follow fanon conventions when there is no better alternative, and when it is not contradicting the canon, but I think accepting "FA 1" as the beginning of the First Age within an article, is a mistake that perpetuates the misconception, and we have the option to avoid. I think removing or editing the First Age title in your list would do less "harm" than leaving it there. [[User:Sage|Sage]] 15:29, 25 February 2021 (UTC)<br />
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:::Where in the whole HoMe? I don't deny the facts, tho, but we cannot follow a convention and fix misconceptions at the same time. This is more complex than I thought and I'm just wondering, but I think that if we want to keep consistency in the wiki (which I think is prioritary), we have two options: <br />
:::*To move the dates in [[Timeline/First Age]] to "Years of the Sun ##" or whatever proper term, and be sure that every mention to the "First Age" in the wiki corresponds to the same concept.<br />
:::*To keep Foster's terminology, and explain the problem in the [[First Age]] article (which already does, btw).<br />
:::What we cannot do is saying "the Exile of the Noldor happened at the end of the First Age in the {{FA|1}}". --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 16:16, 25 February 2021 (UTC)<br />
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== Userboxes ==<br />
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I noticed that other users have info boxes that seem to be unlisted in the [[userboxes]] page. Things like "whether or not you believe that Tom Bombadil is the father of nature." To be honest, I was a little envious, but I am also wondering if there is some error that might need to be called to attention. I could have asked Mith, but he doesn't respond as actively as I write, but also you have answered some of my other questions, so I am asking you. <br />
Thank you, --[[User:Erónèhire|Erónèhire]] 04:22, 12 March 2021 (UTC)<br />
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:I didn't notice that. You can always click on edit a Userpage and copy whatever you want. Here is it: http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Template:User_tom . --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 08:20, 12 March 2021 (UTC)<br />
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::I think they should all be in here: [[:Category:Userbox templates]]. It's the category for the Userbox templates. --[[User:Grace18|Grace18]] 13:57, 12 March 2021 (UTC)<br />
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:::OK, thanks!--[[User:Erónèhire|Erónèhire]] 15:15, 12 March 2021 (UTC)<br />
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== Arnor ==<br />
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Hello. I noticed you made some recent edits on [[Arnor]]. I'd like your opinion on what I wrote on [[Talk:Arnor]]. [[User:Sage|Sage]] 07:18, 26 March 2021 (UTC)<br />
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:Hi! I didn't notice what you say when I made those small edits, feel free to undo them. I find kinda rude that Tengwar made a massive edit when it is clear you were revising it slowly; remember claiming the article next time. I also don't know what to do with the article now, I'm not into the Third Age, so I can't add much. Maybe now that it is shorter, it will be easier to revise by adding what is missing (?) --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 08:25, 26 March 2021 (UTC)<br />
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== Edits to Ancalagon, Carn Dum and other pages by a user with various IP addresses ==<br />
Thank you for fixing the text and references of the Ancalagon page after the edits by an Anonymous user that seems to use different IP addresses and that does not seem to know the templates for the references. I fixed the text and the references on the Carn Dum page after the edits by what seems Tonne the same user with his or her references without templates. Some statements in the page were wrong and a lot was about Angmar and not about Carn Dum and were speculative statements. In my opinion, it does not Make Sense to duplicate much from the Angmar page and to speculate that all troops from Angmar came from Carn Dum and that every statement about Angmar also refers to Carn Dum. I focused the page in what is known about Carn Dum. Maybe you can Check the etymology section. --[[User:Akhorahil|Akhorahil]] 15:11, 28 March 2021 (UTC)<br />
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:Good work! Yep, it is not uncommon to see references given to support assumptions and speculations, instead of giving the specific info of the article. I'll check the Etymology section when I can. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 08:29, 29 March 2021 (UTC)<br />
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== Carn Dûm etymology ==<br />
The statement that Carndoom and Caron-dûn mean Red Valley '''in Noldorin''' is just a theory, because the note in Return of the Shadow only says that it means Red Valley, but it does not say in which language Carndoom and Caron-dûn are. Of course we can make a theory based on components, like carn, caron, doom and dûn. Can we leave the theory that it is Noldorin or Sindarin to Mr. Salo and others and stick to the facts that are available in the reference for the Statement? --[[User:Akhorahil|Akhorahil]] 18:24, 30 March 2021 (UTC)<br />
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:''Caron-dûm'' has not only known [[Noldorin]] elements which correspond with the given gloss "Red Valley". The name was replaced by ''[[Nanduhirion]]'' (RS:433), which is Sindarin in LOTR, the next phase of the Noldorin language. I don't see any problem explaining what language a name is even if it is not explicitly indicated in the given reference: by sight an Elvish name can be easily identify as Q(u)enya or Sindarin/Noldorin, which is not the case with ''Carn-dûm'', as it casually corresponds with a Gaelic term. Tolkien didn't write every single name indicating "this is Quenya, this is Sindarin", so being that strict we would not be able to categorize most of the articles with Elvish names. Anyway, I'll change the section trying to keep order. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 19:34, 30 March 2021 (UTC)<br />
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== On the Ages headcanon ==<br />
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Hola Lorenzo,<br />
Creo que tus creencias sobre las [[Age|Edades]] son muy interesantes. Aunque tengo un pensamiento rápido; en la Carta 211, Tolkien dice que cree que estamos al final de la Sexta Edad/comienzo de la Séptima. ¿Crees que quizás la Octava Edad podría ser aquella en la que Cristo regrese, o crees que la Sexta Edad está teniendo un final bastante largo?<br />
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Me disculpo; mi Español no es muy bueno y aprendí Español Latinoamericano.<br />
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--{{User:Holdwine Meriadoc/sig}} 22:04, 9 April 2021 (UTC)<br />
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:Buenos días Holdwine. Tu español se entiende perfectamente :) Espero que puedas entender mi parrafada.<br />
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:No creo que la Sexta Edad sea especialmente larga: en esa carta, Tolkien dice que desde el fin de la [[Third Age|Tercera Edad]] han pasado 6000 años aproximadamente, o sea que la [[Fourth Age|Cuarta Edad]] y la Quinta Edad pueden tener 2000 años cada una. Tampoco significa que nuestra edad actual vaya a acabar enseguida (o sí): Dios tiene el poder de prorrogar la historia todo lo que quiera (2 Pedro 3:8-9). He visto a muchos fans decir que empezamos una nueva edad con el fin de la Segunda Guerra Mundial, pero Tolkien no parece pensar eso (él escribió la carta en 1958). Además, no hay nada en el mundo que pueda igualar a la victoria de Cristo sobre la muerte. En cualquier caso, mi headcanon se basa más en conectar el legendarium con [[:Wikipedia:Six Ages of the World|las edades del mundo]] en las que Tolkien se inspiró: ¿tal vez el único punto de inflexión entre la ficción y la historia real sea la religión? <br />
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:¿Por qué crees que estemos en la Séptima Edad? Creo que la historia se puede medir de diferentes maneras, o sea que no es incompatible. En la Edad Media también se hablaba de que con Cristo empezó un tiempo de Sabbath, y que cuando vuelva comenzará la Octava Edad del Eterno Domingo. Es una idea muy bonita. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 08:56, 10 April 2021 (UTC)<br />
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::Ah, supongo que no entendí completamente esa cita. Eso es lo que sucede cuando saco una cita de contexto sin mirar mi libro para comprobarlo.<br />
::Yo mismo soy un cristiano devoto y estoy fascinado con la Iglesia medieval. Tendré que buscar la creencia de la que hablaste. Ciertamente parece una idea buena y plausible, y creo que sería una buena experiencia. <br />
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:: Me alegro de que mi español sea comprensible. Han pasado tres años desde que me detuve para poder concentrarme en el latín, jaja.<br />
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::—{{User:Holdwine Meriadoc/sig}} 16:56, 10 April 2021 (UTC)<br />
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:::Yo encantado de hablar de estas cuestiones. Si quieres discutir otras cosas, no tengas problema en mandarme un e-mail o buscarme en Facebook. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 10:01, 12 April 2021 (UTC)<br />
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Y como podemos buscarte en facebook? [[User:Sage|Sage]] 15:19, 15 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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:Por mi nombre. Si ya estás en el grupo de The Tolkien Society, me encontrarás rápido, pues no hay muchos Lorenzos. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 15:22, 15 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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== Silmarillion chapters ==<br />
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Thanks for cleaning up my chapter summaries. Sometimes I lose track of things or misinterpret them. [[User:Turiannerevarine|Turiannerevarine]] 12:53, 15 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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:No problem, the idea is to help each us other. Thank you for making those summaries, they should have been done years ago. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 15:20, 15 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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== References ==<br />
It is useful to include more precise references, which are independent of the page numbering, because it makes it easier for readers with an edition with different page numbering to find the source. Altough Help:References says that no page numbers should be included for some publications (with different editions with different page numbering), such as Unfinished Tales of Númenor and Middle-earth, I personally do not have a problem to also include a page number in addition to a reference that is independent of the page number (e.g. the number of the paragraph or whether something is mentioned at the beginning, in the middle or at the end of a chapter with many paragraphs that are hard to count). I would appreciate if you do not delete such abstract references. --[[User:Akhorahil|Akhorahil]] 15:57, 27 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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:I think that the MoS should require the UT pagination, I asked for that long ago, but there are no admins to decide. Not including pagination for UT makes no sense, as Christopher Tolkien uses it, and there are not so many editions of UT, unlike TLOTR, which does require pagination. No offense to your additions, I love you get involved, but those abstract references are not very consistent with the rest of the wiki, and I think we should avoid them. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 19:29, 27 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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::I disagree. It is important to take into consideration that many readers nowadays only have electronic versions of the books and do not have paper versions of the books. So even with books who do not have paper versions with different page numbers, such readers can not find or verify the source if only a page number is provided in the reference. For such users abstract references that are independent of the page number makes it much quicker to find a source and to verify if that source really supports what is written on Tolkien Gateway. Consistency is not the point. The point is the utility and practicality of the references for as many readers as possible. In my opinion, abstract references that are independent of the page numbers and page numbers of the most common english paper editions of the books should be combined. --[[User:Akhorahil|Akhorahil]] 09:33, 28 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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:::Well, that consideration also applies to any book. Consistency is mandatory for all matters. Why only apply abstract references to UT and just in a few articles? If you want to use that system, apply it systematically to every reference in the wiki, go ahead. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 09:45, 28 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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:::You wrote to use abstract references (for references to books where no page numbers should be included) not just for UT (where no page numbers should be used), but also for other books. I just did that for S (where no page numbers should be used). It is not my Problem that other editors have previously not used more precise references in references to books where no page numbers should be used. The main problem of this Wiki is the lack of quality of its content and the lack of references, which allow other users to verify the quality of the content by following the references and by reading the books, which are the source. More precise references are more user friendly and enable them to find the sources more quickly and thus more efficiently. It is tiresome to read sometimes long chapters to try to find a passage that supports a statement in an article. Consistency is not a dogma, quality and user friendlyness are more relevant and it is the others who should be consistency with me father than me trying to use imprecise and inefficient references. There is already ennough category, Images and user box fetishism in this wiki, but still a Lot of basic problems with references and the quality of the content. --[[User:Akhorahil|Akhorahil]] 11:53, 25 March 2022 (UTC)<br />
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::::Abstract references should be applied to all books in addition to the page numbers in the most common paper editions of the books. I have used abstract references not only for UT, but also for other books in the past (e.g. for WJ). I usually look at the templates for the books and then already use the most detailed subsection, note or appendix that is available in the template and add note numbers, $ numbers, paragraph numbers and any headings / titles that are in the book, but that have not already been included in the template. In the case of The History of Middle-earth books. --[[User:Akhorahil|Akhorahil]] 08:56, 29 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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:::::Still you are missing the point of consistency: your are applying that system randomly. And as a system it is quite unprofessional, doesn't look good. A proper system to solve these matters is the [[Structural references|Arda structural references]], but neither this or yours are indicated in the Manual of Style. I you don't know the pages, do as the MoS says and just include the chapter, as ''The Silmarillion'' or ''The Hobbit''. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 11:55, 30 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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::::::Neither the Manual of Style nor Help:References say that abstract references can not be used and thus do not say to just include the chapter. I am not applying that system randomly. Whether something "looks good" or not lies in the eye of the beholder and is a subjective value judgement. In my opinion, the utility of the references for readers who do not have the sources with the same page numbers and who do not have to read whole chapters to try to guess on which passage something could be based is more important. --[[User:Akhorahil|Akhorahil]] 16:21, 2 August 2021 (UTC)<br />
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== Double Redirect ==<br />
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Thanks for fixing the double redirect of [[Evenstar]] (I missed it yesterday)! --[[User:Oromë|Oromë]] 13:39, 18 September 2021 (UTC)<br />
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:No problem. I always check the page of double redirects just in case. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 17:04, 18 September 2021 (UTC)<br />
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== Template:NM ==<br />
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Thanks for creating the citation template for NoMe! It looks to be a top-notch template, which will find much use at TG. I had the intention today to create that very template, but I saw that you had been quick :-). --[[User:Morgan|Morgan]] 21:50, 19 October 2021 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks! I figured we'd need it asap, so I made it based on previous templates. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 09:34, 20 October 2021 (UTC)<br />
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== "http" vs "https" in links ==<br />
Hi LorenzoCB! I've noticed on a couple of articles that you change web links from "https://" to "http://" ([http://www.tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Beren&diff=340356&oldid=340329 example]). Was just wondering what your reason for doing this is? (This isn't a criticism by the way! Just wondering why we should prefer http over https). Thanks! --[[User:GondolinFan|GondolinFan]] 22:58, 4 January 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:I do that just to remove the ugly padlock sign. Idk if there is a problem changing it, but I've never seen the links being actually affected. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 17:45, 5 January 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Edits by the user Dour1234 ==<br />
Have you had time to view the edits that were made by the new user Dour1234? In his first edit (on the [[Isilmo]] page), he inserted a link to a questionable website. J.R.R. Tolkien strongly disliked racism and hated the separation of races (i.e. apartheid) (see the Tolkien on Racism section on the [[Racism in Tolkien's Works]] page. He may have stumbled on this source for the theory on the origin of the Witch-king by an internet search, but his recent edits, which mostly consisted of moving pages without using the move function and changing pages to redirect to other pages, were done without him proposing to do this on the talk pages and without waiting for the approval of other, ideally more experienced users, before doing it. In addition some of the content that he copied from other pages largely duplicated already exising information. In summary, the edits did not seem to be thorough and did not seem to be of a high quality. I agree that the content on some pages could be merged with other pages and that some pages could be changed to redirect to other pages, but that should be discussed first and should be done with care. --[[User:Akhorahil|Akhorahil]] 11:05, 24 January 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:You did a good job. Maybe some of the articles merged don't need to be discussed (because some already have been so), but in anycase merging and moving must be done properly and not just for the sake of completing some pendant to-do in the wiki. I guess I should prioritize merging those articles myself, it's not the first time this happens. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 18:38, 24 January 2022 (UTC)<br />
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The user Dour1234, who had been blocked temporarily already in the past, has moved the Tal-Elmar page to Tal-elmar without discussing his intent to move the page on the Talk page before moving it. In addition the reason that he left in the Summary box when making the move is incorrect or at least incomplete in an important aspect. Please look at the results of my analysis of the spelling used in the chapter Tal-Elmar on the talk page [[Talk:Tal-elmar]].<br />
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In addition the user Dour1234 moved the Wizards page to Order of Wizards although you and Shivam objected to that you referred to TG:NAMING on the Talk page before the move. Furthermore he made a lot of other edits, which included adding the category Organizations (even with with a "z" as in the American English spelling) to some pages. Please review his changes and revert them if you have the time and consider blocking the user Dour1234.<br />
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I would also appreciate your opinion on moving the Kings of Rohan page to Kings on the Mark. I left the results of my analysis and my opinion on the talk page. In my opinion users will be able to find it easily if Kings of Rohan and King of Rohan redirect to Kings of the Mark. In my opinion the article should be expanded to clarity that Kings of the Mark is the title used by the people of Rohan, because they referred to their country as the Mark or the Riddermark and that the title Kings of Rohan was only used by people who were not from Rohan and who referred to the country as Rohan. In that way Kings of Rohan would still be included in the text of the page (and could be found with search engines, such as google) and would exist as a redirect page (which could be found by typing it in on Tolkien Gateway or via a search in a search engine), but the title of the page would be the official in-universe title of the Kings of that country. --[[User:Akhorahil|Akhorahil]] 10:39, 28 February 2022 (UTC)<br />
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The user Dour1234 also moved the content of the Gwaith-i-Mírdain to the People of the Jewel-smiths page, which had been a redirect to the Gwaith-i-Mírdain page, without using the move function and changed the Gwaith-i-Mírdain page to redirect to the People of the Jewel-smiths page. The name People of the Jewel-Smiths is only used in the Index of Unfinished Tales of Númenor and Middle-earth in the entry for Gwaith-i-Mírdain as the meaning of Gwaith-i-Mírdain. In the text of the chapter The History of Galadriel and Celeborn in Unfinished Tales of Númenor and Middle-earth only the terms Gwaith-i-Mírdain or Mírdain are used. As a consequnce because of the use of this term in the text and because of the [[Tolkien Gateway:Naming policy]] the Gwaith-i-Mírdain should contain the content and the People of the Jewel-smiths page should redirect to the Gwaith-i-Mírdain page, in my opinion. --[[User:Akhorahil|Akhorahil]] 14:12, 28 February 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:I've been out these days. I just cleaned the mess save the Tar-Elmar matter, which I'll study tomorrow God willing. I'll leave my reply about the "Kings of Rohan" matter. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 21:39, 28 February 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== About andreth prophecy ==<br />
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Is the idea that the andreth prophecy refers to the war of wrath a view of christopher tolkien? Or did you come up with this view first in the world? {{unsigned|162.158.251.130}}<br />
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:Christopher Tolkien links this prophecy to the Second Prophecy of Mandos, but he notices that the term "Last Battle" is applied to the War of Wrath in the same text. Interpreting the prophecy either way is up to you, but if something we should stick to Christopher's. We better keep this matter ambiguous. Please, do not edit things if you haven't read what you are citing. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 10:57, 16 February 2022 (UTC)<br />
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::Since I have also edited that section of that article recently, I figured I'd also offer my $0.02 on the subject. <br />
::The immediate context of the quote makes it seem that Andreth just flubbed her prophecy: the plain meaning of the term "Last Battle" in this essay refers to the War of Wrath, and Ancalagon was slain by Eärendil in most versions of that story. However, CJRT's subsequent reference to the ''Book of Lost Tales'' era, "and Melko and his drakes shall curse the sword of Mormakil," suggest that this is less a goof on Andreth's part and more a parallel track of thought by JRRT that wasn't as fleshed out as the Eärendil version of the story.<br />
::I have no idea why JRRT would revisit that very old and scarcely-developed line of thought connecting Túrin with "Melko's drakes" in ''The Problem of Ros''. But it seems to me that this is likely what happened. <br />
::The only way I can square this prophecy as being simultaneously true and compatible with the other depictions of the War of Wrath is to say that Andreth foresaw that Morgoth's creatures would also return from the Void at the Dagor Dagorath. This would allow Eärendil to slay Ancalagon in the "Last Battle" of the First Age and Túrin to slay Ancalagon in the "Last Battle" of all time. <br />
::The trouble with that interpretation is that I can't find any explicit reference to this notion of Ancalagon (or any other of Morgoth's creatures) returning alongside Morgoth anywhere else. In light of that, it seems to me an awful stretch to assert this as being compatible with the "main" Legendarium. To that extent, this prophecy probably rightly belongs in an OVOTL section. Unless, that is, someone can find textual references to the idea of Morgoth's servants or creatures returning alongside him at the Dagor Dagorath. --[[Special:Contributions/Mord|Mord]] 22:59, 16 February 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:::Thank you, I think the matter of prophecies is well explained in [[Túrin#Legacy]] for now. IMO, there is no need to put that info in OVOTL, but in anycase, we better keep the different prophecies together. <br />
:::About what the text refers to: I disagree with the idea of JRRT coming back to TBOLT idea so many decades later; he didn't even returned to consult that phase, instead he usually continued developing from previous texts. I also think that Christopher was wrong when comparing Andreth's prophecy with the Second Prophecy of Mandos (although the compilation of the different versions was pretty necessary and probably that was the best place to put it), because the different versions of this prophecy follow a "tradition" that Andreth's prophecy does not respect at all: it doesn't have the same structure, nor the content, nor the context of the end of tales. However, I was wrong with a point that I just noticed re-reading the commentary: Christopher doesn't think Andreth's prophecy refers to the Dagor Dagorath (he seems to support that at first sight because he includes a whole page comparing the prophecy of the Last Battle at the End of time), but he says that the concept of the return of Túrin was moved to the Last Battle at the end of the First Age (Christopher should notice that both of Túrin returns are compatible, tho). Another important point is that it makes no sense that Túrin leaves the [[Circles of the World]] after the Dagor Dagorath (mainly because the Circles probably will no longer exist); neither makes sense that the text mentions Túrin in particular to explain that the language of the [[Haladim]] will be heard again, when in a scatological context the whole House could be back. I'd love to delve into ''[[The Problem of Ros]]'', it seems to have a perspective from both Aman and Middle-earth, and it is weird that Andreth's prophecy seems to be written before the end of the War of Wrath (or not, maybe the writer simply had no clue of what happened there). Holly molly, so much info around...<br />
:::I think it is [[User:LorenzoCB#Headcanons|compatible]] that both Eärendil and Túrin killed Ancalagon in the War of Wrath. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 16:17, 17 February 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== BOLT category ==<br />
What exactly is the use for [[:Category:The Book of Lost Tales]] - and what to do with articles like the ones on [[Maltar]], [[Nen (river in Valinor)|Nen]], etc. which clearly belong to the same time period as the rest of BoLT related articles?[[User:IvarTheBoneless|IvarTheBoneless]] 18:05, 23 February 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:I created that category to gather its subcategories, which existed previously. I don't see the need for those articles to be in that category, the same way [[:Category:The Lord of the Rings]] does not include concepts, but bookish topics. With categories like [[:C:Qenya locations]], things are already categorized, no need for more unless we come with new ideas for TBOLT matter, which should be discussed and planned so they can be properly applied. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 19:07, 23 February 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== A Thank You, An Apology For Past Edits, And A Solution To Prevent A Third Blocking ==<br />
First off, I would like to thank you for unblocking me on the 13th rather than the 14th, even if only by a few hours. Due to the fact that you have blocked me twice, I am now only going to edit and make suggestions on talk pages in order to minimize the chance of you blocking me again, as I do not want to risk breaking policy and this is the best way for me to do so without the risk of being tempted to edit on the actual pages. Though I will still be very active on Tolkien Gateway, hopefully, there will not be any more problems unintentionally caused by me. [[User:Dour1234|Dour1234]], 13 March 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:Despite the announcement by the user Dour1234 to only edit on talk pages and to make sugestions on talk pages, the user Dour1234 has made edits on actual pages (e.g. [[Old Forest Road]], [[Menelmacar]], [[Menelmacil]], [[Nazgûl]], [[Wizards]], [[Order of Wizards]], [[Standard of Elendil]], [[Thranduil]], [[Legolas (elf of Gondolin)]], [[Denethor (son of Lenwë)]], [[Denethor]], [[Denweg]], [[Dân]]). The user Dour1234 removed the category Organizations from the Wizards page and added the category Organizations to the [[Order of Wizards]] despite the fact that you told him not to do it and explained to him that the category organizations is already applied to the Wizards page and without prior approval to his request. I noticed that on the [[Nazgûl]] page a reference to a chapter of The Lord of the Rings has been added without adding a page number and without any explanation which reasonable efforts the user Dour1234 has made to obtain a page number from the 50th anniversary edition of The Lord of the Rings and why the user Dour1234 has been unable to obtain it. In another instance the user Dour1234 made an edit on an actual page (in the Other names section on the [[Old Forest Road]] page) without a reference to the chapter (or subsection of a chapter it it exists in the [[Template:UT]]) and simply announced in the Summary box that he did not have the time to add a link and reference and that he intend to do so in the future. This behaviour is unacceptable and creates a lot of work for other users who have to review and correct those edits. The user Dour1234 has been warned and blocked before and should be blocked even it the user Dour1234 tries to correct the errors. I ask you to review these edits if [[Tolkien Gateway:Manual of Style]] and [[Help:References]] have been adhered to. --[[User:Akhorahil|Akhorahil]] 15:30, 17 March 2022 (UTC)<br />
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::LorenzoCB, Is there any potential way you or someone else could maybe do a sort of a half-block or something or that nature, meaning stopping me from editing actual pages, but still allowing me to edit on talk pages? I often think rashly and often forget certain things. This is all only intensified by my love of all things Tolkien related. It is something that I am very ashamed of. I have actively been trying to find a solution for a while. What are some of the other things that could work besides blocking, if I may ask? [[User:Dour1234|Dour1234]], 17 March 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:::Caring so much for the talkpages doesn't help to the wiki, specially if you proceed to do as you consider. What we need is actual editing, which must be done properly with no rush. Anyone who is acquainted with the wiki, its categories and style, and provides actual references, can edit without using the talkpages, which should be used for actual difficult matters and not for trivial things like moving the own talkpages you created two days ago. I'm not blocking you right now, but please, abstain from editing, study first how the wiki works and get to the sources. If you are unable to control yourself, I will block you again, and it will not be partially or for a short time. <br />
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:::Akhorahil, I don't find particularly problematic that users include references to TLOTR without a page number. I don't have a copy of the 50 anniversary edition (yet) and I won't explain my situation every time I include a ref. You are right about your other complaints. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 16:42, 18 March 2022 (UTC)<br />
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Desipite you having reverted several of the user Dour1234's edit to the Two Watchers page, he has made six new edits to that page of which three were reversions of his own edits. His chaotic way of editing with many edits and reverting his own edits makes it more difficult to review his changes. In addition he seems to have realized only in his penultimate edit that the Silent Watchers are not the same as the Two Watchers and previously even had the opinion on the talk page of the Two Watchers page that the Silent Watchers is the proper name for the Two Watchers and some of his edits conerned the name boxes in the user box. He could have done some careful reading of the passages in The Lord of the Rings where the Silent Watchers and the Two Watchers are mentioned to find out that they are not the same and that the Silent Watchers are first mentioned by Gollum in the context of the the main pass of Minas Morgul and Minas Morgul before Gollum even mentions that there is another way via the stairs of Cirith Ungol and that Gollum does not even mention that this other pass is guarded by the Tower of Cirith Ungol and that the second time The Silent Watchers are mentioned by Gorbag, an orc from Minas Morgul and that the Silent Watchers were uneasy more than two days ago, which is approximately when Gollum, Frodo and Sam were at the bridge over the river Morgulduin in the Morgul Vale close to Minas Morgul just before they climbed the Stairs of Cirith Ungol. All these edits and possible work for other users to check those edits could have been avoided. The user Dour1234 still seems not to have heeded your advice not to be so hasty with his edits and to pepare for his edits diligently. Prior blocks do not seem to have changed the behaviour of the user Dour1234 much. I would appreciate if you could do something to help with this problem. --[[User:Akhorahil|Akhorahil]] 09:37, 16 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:After I made my edit I noticed that the Recent changes now shows that you blocked the user Dour1234, which the Recent changes did not show before I made the edit (there seems to be a delay until edits show up on the Recent edits page. Thank you for noticing it and for having take action. We seem to have had similar thoughts about those edits and the about possible action to be taken concerning that matter. --[[User:Akhorahil|Akhorahil]] 09:43, 16 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
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::Ooff, mucho texto... I appreciate Dour's good intentions, but I've been consenting him too much. Merely touching things around does not contribute to the wiki. I encourage him to get actual bibliography and delve into it, the firsts steps to become a Tolkien scholar. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 15:09, 16 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Comment ==<br />
I will stop. About how long do you think is reasonable that I should wait between edits? [[User:Dour1234|Dour1234]], 21 March 2022<br />
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:Just use talkpages to discuss actual difficult matters, the wiki doesn't work as a forum. Also, think twice before editing, you are correcting yourself too much and making too many microedits. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 08:09, 21 March 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== For Signature......Again ==<br />
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Hi, LorenzoCB you might have noticed that my signature isn't working. I have tried almost everything. Kindly help.--Shivam 14:57, 21 March 2022 (UTC)<br />
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Example ↑ no link to my user page.<br />
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:Mmmm, no idea. I guess you use <nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki> ? But anycase, I don't understand what's the source of that problem and I don't think I have the requirements to solve it. Sorry. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 15:36, 21 March 2022 (UTC)<br />
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::Okay, no problem. [[User:Shivam|Shivam]]<br />
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:::When you go to the "My preferences" page, what do you see in the text box "Signature"? This is what I see for myself: https://ibb.co/8601vQF --[[Special:Contributions/Mord|Mord]] 04:33, 22 March 2022 (UTC)<br />
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::::Finally, something worked. Thanks Mord.--[[User:Shivam|Shivam]] 05:46, 22 March 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Webcite template ==<br />
I have to apologize for referencing Eldamo and other sites without having an inkling of ''webcite template''. I will rectifiy these articles. [[User:IvarTheBoneless|IvarTheBoneless]] 22:39, 22 March 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:Don't worry. Thanks! --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 22:55, 22 March 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== User Niclosam ==<br />
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Hi Lorenzo, I don't know if you noticed a new user account has been made named Niclosam. In his user page there is a link to a commercial website. I don't think its appropriate. Also the whole user page feels like an advertisement.--[[User:Shivam|Shivam]] 13:46, 25 March 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:Hi. No need to explain or notice me unless I don't edit after many days. Just do as Akhorahil did without permission: blanck the page and include the spam tag. Thanks anyway! --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 15:16, 25 March 2022 (UTC)<br />
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::Ok,thanks.--[[User:Shivam|Shivam]] 15:20, 25 March 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Consent of the artist(s) ==<br />
I have uploaded, and might upload some more images, of artists who up to this point haven't given their consent to do so or haven't even been asked to contribute their work on TG.<br />
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That being said, I present to you a screenshot of the artist's agreement to post their artwork here (since you are an admin now): [https://imgur.com/a/nWdTtci Olga Kalinichenko's consent].<br />
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If it is alright with you, I will forward all evidence of artists' permission to use their work here, on your talkpage. Unless you can think of a better solution? - [[User:IvarTheBoneless|IvarTheBoneless]] 01:06, 4 April 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:Never mind, I just realized there is the [[:Category:Images of evidence of permission granted by copyright holders|Images of evidence of permission granted by copyright holders]]. - [[User:IvarTheBoneless|IvarTheBoneless]] 06:57, 4 April 2022 (UTC)<br />
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::You should keep the screenshots and send them to Mith via email. We should delete that category IMO, but you can you make use of it if you wish. Please, do not upload images until the artist gave permission. Put the delete tag in those images uploaded without the artist's consent. Be patient and do not upload things until the artists answer your requests, even (and particularly) if they never answer you. We must be very strict with this matter. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 08:29, 4 April 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:::I'm well aware of that - I've reached out before to great many artists and got their consent, I just wasn't quite sure where to present the proof of their agreement. P.S. I don't really have an email, at least not one that I have used in quite a long time, so I doubt I'll be able to log into it. How about I just post some artists' copyright proofs to Mith's talkpage instead, would that be acceptable?<br />
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:::Also, I too believe that the category you were talking about is a bit clunky and unneccesary, after trying it out. - [[User:IvarTheBoneless|IvarTheBoneless]] 15:32, 4 April 2022 (UTC)<br />
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::::Mith's talkpage is fine. He will also decide what to do with that category. You are saying you uploaded images while waiting for the artist's consent. Please, if that's true, delete those asap and wait to the artist's response. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 16:33, 4 April 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:::::It is not true - all the art I've uploaded recently has been approved by the artists themselves, and has been sitting on my desktop for quite some time, as you can see for yourself if you check the dates on the imgur proofs I posted; I ''never'' upload artworks without permission of the artists.<br />
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:::::What I meant by: "''I have uploaded, and might upload some more images, of artists who up to this point haven't given their consent to do so or haven't even been asked to contribute their work on TG''" is that I might in the future look for some other artists and ask for their blessing to upload their work, although I worded that sentence quite badly, I admit. - [[User:IvarTheBoneless|IvarTheBoneless]] 17:00, 4 April 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:::::I'll link you the same proofs as I have to Mith in his talkpage:<br />
*Olga Kalinichenko (https://imgur.com/a/nWdTtci)<br />
*Marina Muscan (https://imgur.com/a/S2vyiNM)<br />
*Janet Georgiou (https://imgur.com/a/HV3BgmW)<br />
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:::::And as for any other artwork I upload from here forward, for anyone doubting that it isn't approved by the artists themselves, I can always link them the proof. - [[User:IvarTheBoneless|IvarTheBoneless]] 17:12, 4 April 2022 (UTC)<br />
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::::::I noticed you put the links there, no need for more. Thanks. Maybe it is because I'm not an English speaker, but I'm not able to understand that sentence otherway. No problem tho. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 17:23, 4 April 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:::::::No worries, it was I who did not express myself clearly enough. - [[User:IvarTheBoneless|IvarTheBoneless]] 18:56, 4 April 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Concerning account ==<br />
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Hello, it seems like my account is at a low level, as I cannot do certain things in this website, such as uploading images, sandbox...etc. May I ask how could I gain such abilities? [[User:Luotiansha|Luotiansha]] 04:10, 19 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:Hi. You will be an autoconfirmed user after 50 edits and a week after registration. That will allow you to do those mentioned things. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 07:13, 19 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Category:Uncategorized journals issues ==<br />
Hi, I intend to create a new category page "Uncategorized journals issues", as a subcategory of [[:Category:Journals]]. In this category I want to put all the journal issues that do not have a Tokiengateway wikipage about the journal it belongs to. (either because the journal itself is foreign or less significant) (such as [[The Times Literary Supplement 14 September 2012]])<br />
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In this way [[:Category:Journals]] will be cleaner and easier to navigate. Do you approve this? [[User:Luotiansha|Luotiansha]] 06:04, 1 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:Hi. I'm fine with it. Maybe a more correct term would be "Loose journal numbers" or something like that? I'm not a native English speaker, but you get the idea. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 21:50, 1 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
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::Unfortunately me neither D: I'll just go with "Unsorted journal issues". [[User:Luotiansha|Luotiansha]] 10:16, 2 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Why Was My IP Blocked? ==<br />
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I was just wondering why my IP has been blocked. It says it's because of vandalism, but all of my edits have been trying to improve the articles. Sometimes the syntax is weak or there are spelling mistakes, and I just want to polish the phrasing up a bit. I also sometimes add helpful information as well (like my contributions to the Mîm page and the Cuiviénen page). I've never tried to intentionally vandalize pages. I'm a genuinely massive Tolkien fan and use this site frequently. I admit I'm not the best when it comes to citing things correctly, but I can try harder in the future! Thanks for considering my message. {{Unsigned|<br />
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:I don't know why I blocked you because idk who are you or what you did. Sometimes a blocking is just to prevent bad editing to keep going and doesn't mean your contributions are necessarily seen as vandalism. Of course you are encouraged to improve your editing and create an user account, which would avoid your IP to be trapped by other users' block, as it has happened before. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 09:45, 24 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Vinyar Tengwar ==<br />
Hi again. I see that all VT issues wiki pages has the sentence ''"The content list above only contains published articles."'' I don't know what that supposes to mean, is there any "unpublished articles" for each VT issue? or is there any policy involved?<br />
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Anyways, I intend to make each VT issue's content more complete (an example I made is [[Vinyar Tengwar 11]]). If such change is not against any policy, I'll work on all the remaining issues in the similar way. Is that okay? [[User:Luotiansha|Luotiansha]] 08:39, 1 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:Hi. I don't know, actually. I guess it means that the list of contents is limited to the articles in the issue. In that case, if you expand that section, you can freely remove that sentence. Please, if you expand those sections (which is great, go ahead), try to apply the same to all the issues for the sake of consistency. I have all VT, so I'll try to give a hand. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 23:03, 3 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
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::Aye, got it. Thanks a lot for the help! [[User:Luotiansha|Luotiansha]] 06:15, 4 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
::In fact, while my work is mainly about the "formatting" of the contents sections of VT pages (which is relatively easy to do), there is another important work to do (I believe), which I'm not confident to do myself (due to my language skills etc.). That is to provide details to the "unique materials" appearing on a number of VT issues. You see, many of the entries are marked as '''The above article is previously unpublished primary material from the Tolkien archives,''' but it is not mentioned what exactly are those materials. [[Vinyar Tengwar 12]] this I think can be a good example (adding info below that sentence). I would feel most grateful if you could lend a help on this matter. [[User:Luotiansha|Luotiansha]] 13:48, 5 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:::I was about to tell you about that before, but I wasn't sure. Obviously those statements make sense in some of the VT articles, when the journal was transitioning to be only a publication of Tolkien's works. Maybe it would be more appropiate to include those statements as notes, less intrusive. And maybe in some cases this can be noted in the introduction, like when VT began focusing on Tolkien's work (I think it was VT39). --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 21:44, 5 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Email Verification ==<br />
First off, I'm a transgender woman. I originally was here as [[user:Pinkkeith|pinkkeith]] which had my dead name in it. I created this profile because I couldn't log on my old account or retrieve a request to update the password. I also wanted a username that reflected my current name. I tried to verify my email address on this account, but I'm not receiving the email to verify it. It looks like out of the current administrators that you are the most recent active, so I reached out to you. Is there anything you can do to fix this problem? Thanks! --[[User:Pinkkatie|Pinkkatie]] 02:56, 3 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:Greetings. I don't have the power to check internal stuff of the wiki. I'm not sure, but the e-mail is optional when creating an account, so maybe verification is not needed. Have you checked that you receive e-mails when doing things mentioned in [[Special:Preferences]] or asking for a new password? Anyway, you seem to be logged in and editing, so I don't see the problem here. Your new user will be autoconfirmed after a week and 50 edits. --[[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] 23:03, 3 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
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::Thank you for the quick reply. I just wanted to make sure that I could verify my email in case I forget the password again and need to reset it. --[[User:Pinkkatie|Pinkkatie]] 00:25, 4 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
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::What can I get in touch with to fix this problem? I still cannot verify my email because I'm not getting the confirmation email sent to me. I am using my personal email address and can't locate it in any of my folders. --[[User:Pinkkatie|Pinkkatie]] 12:02, 16 July 2022 (UTC)</div>Pinkkatiehttps://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=User:Pinkkatie/Pinkfae&diff=350092User:Pinkkatie/Pinkfae2022-07-15T07:53:51Z<p>Pinkkatie: Created page with "{{nandor infobox | name= Pinkfae Neilikka | image= | caption= | pronun= | othernames= | titles= Happy to Help<br><small>many others</small> | position= lore-master and scholar | ..."</p>
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'''PinkFae Neilikka''' was born on October 11, T.A. 981 in Lórien. Like the majority of elves in Lórien, PinkFae is a Silvan Elf of Nandorin decent. Pinkfae is the daughter of elven-wheat farmers from Lorien. She is the elder sister of Bluefae and Rosefae. She became interested in studying lore after Durin's Bane was awakened, but was forbidden to take up the ways of the loremaster by her father. It was his hope that she would carry on the family tradition as farmers.<br />
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With the third age drawing to a close, Celeborn ordered many of the farmers to travel west to the Undying Lands. Her parents went to Aman followed closely by Pinkfae and her brother.<br />
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Upon reaching Duillond, Pinkfae and the rest of her company was greeted by Elrohir, whom urged the refugees to travel to the west to fight off a goblin horde. Yet, no one went to follow him on his quest.</div>Pinkkatiehttps://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=The_Lord_of_the_Rings_Online:_Shadows_of_Angmar&diff=350033The Lord of the Rings Online: Shadows of Angmar2022-07-13T15:22:21Z<p>Pinkkatie: /* Epic story line */</p>
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{{video game infobox<br />
| image=[[Image:The Lord of the Rings Online- Shadows of Angmar box.jpg|250px]]<br />
| name=The Lord of the Rings Online:<br>Shadows of Angmar<br />
| developer=[[Turbine|Turbine, Inc]]<br />
| publisher=[[Turbine|Turbine, Inc]] (North America and Europe)<br />[[Midway Games]]<br />[[Codemasters]] (Europe, till 2010))<br/>[[IT Territory]] (Russia)<ref name="Korea and Russia">{{webcite|author=William Dobson|articleurl=http://www.engadget.com/2009-04-23-lord-of-the-rings-online-launches-in-korea-and-russia.html|articlename=Lord of the Rings Online launches in Korea and Russia|dated=23 April 2009|website=Engadget|accessed=23 August 2020}}</ref><br/>[[NHN Corporation]] (South Korea)<ref name="Korea and Russia"/><br>[[Sakura Internet]] (Japan, till 2009)<ref>{{webcite|author=Karl B.|articleurl=http://qj.net/turbine-eyes-japanese-market-for-lotro-distribution/|articlename=Turbine eyes Japanese market for LotRO distribution|dated=22 September 2006|website=qj.net|accessed=23 August 2020}}</ref><br />
| platform=Microsoft Windows<br />
| releasedate=[[24 April|April 24]], [[2007]]<br />
| genre=MMORPG<br />
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'''''The Lord of the Rings Online: Shadows of Angmar''''' is a massively multiplayer online role-playing game (MMORPG) set in [[Middle-earth]] during the time of ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]''. It is the initial version of ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online]]'' (LOTRO or LotRO) and is referred to as volume I of the game.<br />
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The game's story line starts at the beginning of ''[[The Fellowship of the Ring]]'' Book I, Chapter III "[[Three is Company]]" and ends at the end of Book II, Chapter II "[[The Council of Elrond]]".<br />
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==Release==<br />
[[Turbine]] and [[Midway Games, Inc.]] officially launched ''The Lord of the Rings Online: Shadows of Angmar'' on April 24th, 2007 in North America for PC computers. [[Codemasters]] handles the European version of the game.<br />
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==Game Play==<br />
In ''Shadows of Angmar'', Turbine allows players to create customized characters ([[elves]], [[dwarves]], [[hobbits]], or [[men]]) to explore Middle-earth as a persistent 3D world environment, undertaking trivial and epic quests (the main story line), and battling against a wide variety of creatures and enemies in player-vs-environment. These are creatures and enemies found in the [[legendarium]]. Players can also craft equipment and consumable items (including the popular varieties of pipe-weed), as well as enjoy recreational activities such as player-generated music.<br />
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The game also has player-vs-player (PvP) combat with the [[free peoples]] fighting player controlled enemies (called "creeps). Once the player levels a free person to level 10 they can create an [[Orcs|orc]], [[uruk-hai]], [[warg]] or [[spider]] and fight against the free peoples. Player-vs-player is limited to the region of the [[Ettenmoors]].<br />
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==Cast==<br />
The majority of the dialog in the game is textually based, but there are some characters with spoken dialog. There are also some characters that will speak a line or two of the dialog, but the rest of the dialog will be text.<br />
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| [[Gandalf]] || [[Harry Chase]]<br />
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| Sandar / Chef Vraz / Warg Rider Goblin || [[Mike Vaughn]]<br />
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| Additional Voices || [[Neil Kaplan]]<br />
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==Epic story line==<br />
The prologue and books one through eight were included with this title. The introduction for Dwarves, Elves, Hobbits and Men were also in ''Shadows of Angmar''. The introduction for Beornings was introduced in the update ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Gondor Aflame|Gondor Aflame]]'', for High Elves in the expansion ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Mordor|Mordor]]'', and for Stout-axes in the expansion ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Minas Morgul|Minas Morgul]]''. The epic story line continues in the patch ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Shores of Evendim|Shores of Evendim]]''.<br />
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:'''Introduction:'''<br />
There are five different introductions depending on the race of the player.<br />
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:::'''Beorning:'''<br />
::The player is spending idle time on the shores of the river [[Anduin]] with another [[Beorn]] named Sterkist, the player's brother. He reflects if there is more to life than spending it gazing at the river after chores are done. The voice of [[Radagast]] is heard coming from [[Grimbeorn|Grimbeorn's]] lodge. Sterkist wonders what brought the wizard to their home. He sends you to Varthmath to see if he knows the answer. If he knows, he's not telling the player. He instructs the player to mind their own business and bring the milk-cow back into her pen. After herding the cow, the player meets up with Ofolmóth who remarks that the player has grown soft. He challenges the player into a spar. After he's had enough, he tells you to hunt the sickle-files that plague the area. After defeating a number of them the player's sister Langhár draws your attention from a nearby field of clover. The two of you head back Grimbeorn's lodge. Along the way the player spots goblins. Langhár tells the player to warn the others at the entrance to the lodge. You find Sterkist and tell him about the goblins. It is unusual for them to venture this close to home since they fear the Beorn. You overhear Radagast talking to Grimbeorn saying that word of this unusual activity by the goblins needs to be relayed to other folk that can be trusted. Radagast wants him to send all of his kin, but Grimbeorn said he could only spare one, the player. Packing up some belongings, the player makes towards the mountains on horseback. <br />
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::After a long journey, the player arrives in [[Archet]]. The player asks Letty Foxtail if she knows where the Ranger [[Aragorn]] is at as he heard he was heading this way. She says that he did pass this way. She tells the player to seek out [[Jon Brackenbrook]] as he might know more. Jon states that he doesn't know where Aragorn went to. He informs the player that the town was attacked and nearly burned down by [[Blackwolds|Blackwold]] brigands. He says they have slain his father, the leader of Archet and that he is trying to rebuild the settlement. He requests the player's assistance. <small>''The story continues in Prologue: Man and Beorning.''</small><br />
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:'''Prologue:'''<br />
There are four different prologues with the dwarf/stout-axe and elf/high elf prologue merging at one point. Although they are initially separated by race, a player of any race can do any of the prologues.<br />
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:'''Book I - ''Stirrings in the Darkness'':'''<br />
After the prologue, the player is sent to [[Aragorn]], who needs your help to weaken the Blackwolds, a hostile gang within Breeland, secretly backed by agents of [[Angmar]]. After helping Aragorn and the [[Rangers of the North|Rangers]], they send you to [[Tom Bombadil]] to destroy the evil in Othrongroth, The Great Barrow of the [[Barrow-downs]]. Though the Wightlord Sambrog is defeated, the [[Witch-king]], Ivar and Skorgrim escape. Upon returning to [[Bree]], you discover Aragorn has left with the [[Hobbits]] and the player meets [[Gandalf]], who was too late to help. As he leaves for [[Rivendell]] too, he instructs you to find one of his fellow [[Istari]].<br />
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:'''Book II - ''The Red Maid'':'''<br />
[[Radagast|Radagast the Brown]] asks for your help in cleansing Garth Agarwen from the evil wights that inhabit it. Ultimately you and Radagast will fight Ivar the Bloodhand, their leader and a servant of the Witch-king. After succeeding, you are urgently sent to the North Downs to aid the Rangers there.<br />
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:'''Book III - ''The Council of the North'':'''<br />
You are asked by [[Halbarad]] to aid in the defence of the North Downs against Angmar's forces, by uniting the three main armies of the North Downs: the Men of Trestlebridge, the [[Dwarves]] led by [[Dori]] and [[Gildor]]'s Elves. After this, You are sent to Rivendell, where the [[Fellowship of the Ring|Fellowship]] has now safely arrived.<br />
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:'''Book IV - ''Chasing Shadows'':'''<br />
[[Nazgûl|The Black Rider]] that survived the Flood of [[Elrond]] is still in the [[Trollshaws]], making it impossible for the Fellowship to leave. With the help of [[Legolas]], [[Elladan]] and [[Elrohir]], you chase the Nazgûl, destroying the Trolls he has corrupted, and forcing the Ringwraith to retreat to the [[Misty Mountains]]. You are sent to pursue him, where [[Glóin]] and [[Gimli]] have set up camp.<br />
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:'''Book V - ''The Last Refuge'':'''<br />
Your search for the [[Nazgûl]] brings you to the final stronghold of Skorgrim and the Dourhands. An assault led by Gimli will result in the fall of Skorgrim and the Dourhands. But the Nazgûl has fled to Helegrod, where the ancient Dragon Thorog has been revived in order to serve the [[Sauron|Dark Lord]]. You arrive just in time to stop the Nazgûl, defeating him and making the Dragon harmless, for now. Now that Rivendell is safe, it is time to move on to [[Angmar]] itself.<br />
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:'''Book VI - ''Fires in the North'':'''<br />
Rangers, led by Corunir and Golodir, have gone to Angmar and their kinsmen want to know what has become of them. Upon entering Angmar, you find Corunir safe in a friendly Hillmen village. He begs you to find his lost company, who passed through Rammas Deluon: a great series of statues that weakens (or even kills) those who pass it. But after destroying the spirits within them, you are able to resist the power of Rammas Deluon, and find a dwarf settlement, where a part of the scattered party lives.<br />
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:'''Book VII - ''The Hidden Hope'':'''<br />
You are informed Golodir settled at Gath Forthnir, far in the North. When arriving there, Golodir is gone and the Rangers are led by his daughter, Lorniel. Lorniel reveals that Golodir has been captured by [[Mordirith]], Steward of Angmar, and has been locked away in [[Carn Dûm]]. As leader of the remaining Rangers, and with the help of Laerdan, Lorniel launches an assault on Carn Dûm, where she is slain by Mordirith, who then releases Golodir, to continue his torture. <br />
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:'''Book VIII - ''The Scourge of the North'':'''<br />
Golodir's grief for the death of his daughter has almost destroyed him, yet he sees a chance to avenge her. Reclaiming an ancient sword, he travels with you to the heart of [[Carn Dûm]], defeating Mordirith with the blade. Mordirith drops his ''[[palantír]]'', a great seeing stone, which is quickly taken by the mysterious Sara Oakheart.<br />
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:'''Book IX - ''Shores of Evendim'':'''<br />
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You learn Sara Oakheart is no less than [[Amarthiel]], the Champion of Angmar. She has set up a plot from Barad Gularan to use you to weaken Mordirith. Now she has the ''palantír'', she can communicate with Sauron and challenge Mordirith's position. You are sent to kill all of Mordirith's Knights, in an attempt to further weaken his power. But despite your victories over Mordirith, Amarthiel only grows stronger. After losing [[Fornost]] and Barad Gularan, she moves to [[Annúminas]], the ancient capital of [[Arnor]]. The Rangers there, led by Calenglad, need your aid.<br />
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:'''Book X - ''The City of Kings'':'''<br />
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A massive battle in Annúminas ensues, the wise [[Elves|Elf]] Laerdan offers his services to Calenglad. One of Amarthiel's captains is captured, but while in captivity, he angers Laerdan, making the Elf decide to fight Amarthiel on his own, in an attempt to make up for his mistakes in the past. Again the Free People have been tricked by Amarthiel and her servants. Together with the Rangers of Evendim, you are able to wrestle the ''palantír'' from Amarthiel's clutches, but Laerdan is lost. But within the ''palantír'', Amarthiel saw a glimpse of where Narchuil, her ancient ring, lies. She is now determined to possess its power once more.<br />
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:'''Book XI - ''Prisoner of the Free Peoples'':'''<br />
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Amarthiel's captain Mordrambor breaks free, killing many rangers. Soon he leads an army out of [[Annúminas]], to find Amarthiel's Ring, Narchuil. You attempt to find Narchuil before Amarthiel can, searching the ancient ruins of the [[Trollshaws]]. After much searching, it turns out Narmeleth, Laerdan's daughter, who originally caused Amarthiel's fall in Fornost, has become possessed by her. But all searching seems in vain, when it is revealed Amarthiel has already found Narchuil. However, Elrond does not fall for her trickery again, he realises Narchuil is still out there, and Laerdan knows where.<br />
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:'''Book XII - ''The Ashen Wastes'':'''<br />
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Amarthiel has Laerdan transported to Angmar, where she learns from him under torture where her Ring is. In a brave attempt to save both Laerdan and the ring Narchuil, you are able to get to them before Amarthiel does, despite losing another Ranger. But only half of the ring was found. Laerdan confesses to Elrond he has broken Narchuil in two, and where the other part should be. But then he swears an oath upon [[Varda|Elbereth]] that he will not rest before he has saved his daughter, and leaves the Council.<br />
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:'''Book XIII - ''Doom of the Last-King'':'''<br />
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Trying to find out more about the other half of Narchuil, you are sent to [[Forochel]]. However Amarthiel's forces have already arrived, and are already searching. In an attempt to find the ring before the Angmarim, the player receives help from [[Arvedui]]'s Ghost. In the final chapter, it seems Mordrambor has betrayed Amarthiel; the two start to battle and disappear from view. The player then retrieves the second half of Narchuil and returns it to Rivendell.<br />
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:'''Book XIV - ''The Ring-forges of Eregion'':'''<br />
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Still seeking to save Narmeleth, Laerdan travels with the two halves of Narchuil to [[Eregion]]. Amarthiel, baiting him in, reclaims Narchuil for herself. Elrond sends many Heralds of Rivendell to all corners of [[Eriador]] to help him in his search for the lost Ring-lore. But all efforts are too late, for Narchuil has been reforged when the Free People reach Eregion. It quickly becomes clear none are able to withstand Narchuil, until Mordrambor, Amarthiel's former servant, arrives. They go outside, where Mordirith arrives. Mordirith is in power once again, but Amarthiel does not surrender and believes she can defeat him with Narchuil. But Mordirith has the power of the Witch-king and defeats her. Mordrambor claims Narchuil as his own, and when he is about to finish Amarthiel, Laerdan appears. He now knows Mordirith is actually [[Eärnur]], the last King of [[Gondor]]. Mordirith orders Mordrambor to kill Laerdan, after which the two leave. Amarthiel is crying over her father, and set captive by the Free People.<br />
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:'''Book XV - ''Daughter of Strife'':'''<br />
With the death of her father, Narmeleth is once again freed from the evil influence of Amarthiel. Narmeleth becomes a captive of the Free Peoples and she sacrifices herself in order to help defeat Mordrambor and aid the Free Peoples. The book ends bittersweet with Narmeleth's redemption and her death.<br />
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I'm also a huge video gamer. I've always been a fan of puzzles and trying to solve problems. I didn't really get into gaming until Zelda for the NES came out. I use to compete against other players for fun and in competitions with prize monies involved. Yet, after college, I haven't had the time to game regularly enough to be competitive and now I just do it for the joy of it. <br />
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I have played some Lord of the Rings video game titles, but not many of them impressed me much at all. The one exception is ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online]]''. I played it about six weeks after it was released and haven't stopped since. Through my love of the video game I picked up ''[[The History of Middle-earth]]'' volumes.<br />
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I'm also a huge video gamer. I've always been a fan of puzzles and trying to solve problems. I didn't really get into gaming until Zelda for the NES came out. I use to compete against other players for fun and in competitions with prize monies involved. Yet, after college, I haven't had the time to game regularly enough to be competitive and now I just do it for the joy of it. <br />
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I'm also a huge video gamer. I've always been a fan of puzzles and trying to solve problems. I didn't really get into gaming until Zelda for the NES came out. I use to compete against other players for fun and in competitions with prize monies involved. Yet, after college, I haven't had the time to game regularly enough to be competitive and now I just do it for the joy of it. <br />
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I have played some Lord of the Rings video game titles, but not many of them impressed me much at all. The one exception is ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online]]''. I played it about six weeks after it was released and haven't stopped since. Through my love of the video game I picked up ''[[The History of Middle-earth]]'' volumes.<br />
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** Clean up the main article using what [[User:Amroth/LOTRO|User:Amroth]] started.<br />
** <strike>Make articles for each of the expansions and updates for the game.</strike><br />
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* Work on the article in my [[User:Pinkkatie/sandbox|sandbox]]. (Started back in April 2009!)<br />
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I'm also a huge video gamer. I've always been a fan of puzzles and trying to solve problems. I didn't really get into gaming until Zelda for the NES came out. I use to compete against other players for fun and in competitions with prize monies involved. Yet, after college, I haven't had the time to game regularly enough to be competitive and now I just do it for the joy of it. <br />
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I have played some Lord of the Rings video game titles, but not many of them impressed me much at all. The one exception is ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online]]''. I played it about six weeks after it was released and haven't stopped since. Through my love of the video game I picked up ''[[The History of Middle-earth]]'' volumes.<br />
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* <strike>Create an article for each of the ''[[The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien]]'' (see below).</strike><br />
* Clean up ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online]]'' articles<br />
** Clean up the main article using what [[User:Amroth/LOTRO|User:Amroth]] started.<br />
** <strike>Make articles for each of the expansions and updates for the game.</strike><br />
** Write up the epic story line of the game with each chapter/book being placed in the expansion or patch/update it became available in. The only exception is the race introduction and prologue quests. <br />
* Work on the article in my [[User:Pinkkatie/sandbox|sandbox]]. (Started back in April 2009!)<br />
* Actually attend one of the [[Tolkien Gateway:Meetings|Tolkien Gateway meetings]].<br />
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* [[Maria Raffaella Benvenuto|Benvanuto, Maria Raffella]]. "Against Stereotype: Éowyn and Lúthien as 20th-Century Women." ''[[Tolkien and Modernity 1]]''. Eds. [[Frank Weinreich|Weinreich]] and [[Thomas M. Honegger|Honegger]], [[2006]].<br />
* [[Laura Michel|Michel, Laura]]. "Politically Incorrect: Tolkien, Women, and Feminism." ''[[Tolkien and Modernity 1]]''. Eds. [[Frank Weinreich|Weinreich]] and [[Thomas M. Honegger|Honegger]], [[2006]].<br />
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I'm also a huge video gamer. I've always been a fan of puzzles and trying to solve problems. I didn't really get into gaming until Zelda for the NES came out. I use to compete against other players for fun and in competitions with prize monies involved. Yet, after college, I haven't had the time to game regularly enough to be competitive and now I just do it for the joy of it. <br />
<br />
I have played some Lord of the Rings video game titles, but not many of them impressed me much at all. The one exception is ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online]]''. I played it about six weeks after it was released and haven't stopped since. Through my love of the video game I picked up ''[[The History of Middle-earth]]'' volumes.<br />
<br />
My interest in Tolkien Gateway is to talk about how [[The Lord of the Rings Online]] relates to the lore of Middle-earth. <br />
<br />
==Personal To-Do List==<br />
* <strike>Create an article for each of the ''[[The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien]]'' (see below).</strike><br />
* Clean up ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online]]'' articles<br />
** Clean up the main article using what [[User:Amroth/LOTRO|User:Amroth]] started.<br />
** <strike>Make articles for each of the expansions and updates for the game.</strike><br />
** Write up the epic story line of the game with each chapter/book being placed in the expansion or patch/update it became available in. The only exception is the race introduction and prologue quests. <br />
* Work on the article in my [[User:Pinkkatie/sandbox|sandbox]]. (Started back in April 2009!)<br />
* Actually attend one of the [[Tolkien Gateway:Meetings|Tolkien Gateway meetings]].<br />
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* [[User:Pinkkatie/Pinkfae|Pinkfae]]- My character from [[The Lord of the Rings Online]].</div>Pinkkatiehttps://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=12_June&diff=35001112 June2022-07-12T14:06:03Z<p>Pinkkatie: /* On Earth */</p>
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* '''[[1932]]''' - Actor [[Michael Elsworth]] is born.<br />
* '''[[1967]]''' - [[Donald Swann]] and [[William Elvin]] record the music for ''[[The Road Goes Ever On (book)|The Road Goes Ever On]]''.<br />
* '''[[2002]]''' - ''[[The Art of The Fellowship of the Ring]]'' is published.<br />
* '''[[2007]]''' - The fan film ''[[The Peril to the Shire]]'' premières to a private audience.<br />
* '''[[2007]]''' - [[The Lord of the Rings Online: Shores of Evendim]] patch is released.<br />
* '''[[2015]]''' - [[Parma Eldalamberon 22|''Parma Eldalamberon'' 22]] is published.<br />
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| platform = Microsoft Windows<br />
| releasedate = [[31 July]] [[2017]] <br />
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'''''The Lord of the Rings Online: Mordor''''' is the sixth expansion for ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online]]''.<br />
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'''''The Lord of the Rings Online: Helm's Deep''''' is the fifth expansion to ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online]]'' game. It expands the world by opening up the West [[Rohan]] region, including the city of [[Edoras]], from the [[Gap of Rohan]] south and east towards the [[Eastfold]]. It also introduced expansions to gameplay through the Big Battles system (the first of which being the expansion's namesake), raising the level cap to 95, class changes, and the extension of the epic story.<br />
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===Volume III: Allies of the King===<br />
'''Book XI - The Golden Hall'''<br />
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'''Book XII - War in the Westemnet'''<br />
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'''Book XIII - The Battle of the Hornburg'''<br />
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'''Book XIV - The Waters of Isengard'''<br />
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===Volume IV: The Strength of Sauron===<br />
'''Book I - The Road to Gondor'''<br />
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| name=''The Lord of the Rings Online: Riders of Rohan''<br />
| developer=[[Turbine|Turbine, Inc]]<br />
| publisher=[[Turbine|Turbine, Inc]]<br />[[Midway Games]]<br />
| platform=Microsoft Windows<br />
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'''''The Lord of the Rings Online: Riders of Rohan''''' is the fourth expansion of ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online]]''. It includes three new regions and features mounted combat, as well as smaller additions like an increase of the level cap from 75 to 85. The game was released on October 15, [[2012]].<ref name="Turbine"/><br />
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==Storyline==<br />
The game story focuses on the [[Rohirrim|Riders of Rohan]], the [[Breaking of the Fellowship]] and [[Éomer]]'s fight against the [[Orcs]] and [[Uruks]] who invade eastern [[Rohan]].<ref name="Turbine"/> The ''Riders of Rohan'' expansion continues the Epic Quest storyline with books 7, 8 and 9 of ''Allies of the King''. These books team the player with a motley crew consisting of an exiled Rohir, a [[Dunlendings|Dunlending]] woman and an [[Elf]] of [[Lothlorien]].<br />
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==Regions==<br />
''Riders of Rohan'' adds one big zone and two smaller zones to the game world:<ref name="Update6&Riders"> {{webcite|author=Justin Olivetti|articleurl=http://www.engadget.com/2012-01-25-riding-into-rohan-lotro-maps-out-2012.html|articlename=Riding into Rohan: LotRO maps out in 2012|dated=25 January 2012|website=Engadget|accessed=25 August 2020}}</ref><br />
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* East Plains of [[Rohan]]<br />
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==Mounted Combat==<br />
''Riders of Rohan'' allows players to fight from horseback for the first time. Early quests in [[The Wold]] of East Rohan give players access to a War-steed, a special breed of horse trained for combat. Players can learn special attacks and maneuvers for their War-steeds and their mounts level up with experience just as the players do. War-steeds can be ridden in most game regions but mounted combat options are only available in Rohan.<br />
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| developer=[[Turbine|Turbine, Inc]]<br />
| publisher=[[Turbine|Turbine, Inc]]<br />[[Midway Games]]<br />[[Codemasters]]<br />
| platform=Microsoft Windows<br />
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'''''The Lord of the Rings Online: Rise of Isengard''''' is an expansion for ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online]]'' covering the rise of [[Saruman]] and the [[Grey Company]]'s arrival in [[Dunland]]. Three new regions - [[Isengard]], [[Dunland]] and the [[Gap of Rohan]] - will be released, the level cap will be increased up to level 75, and other new additions, including a new monster play region and a 24-man raid.<ref>{{webcite|author=Justin Olivetti|articleurl=http://www.engadget.com/2011-04-21-through-turbines-palantir-developers-outline-lotros-future.html|articlename=Turbine eyes Japanese market for LotRO distribution|dated=21 April 2011|website=Engadget|accessed=25 August 2020}}</ref> The game was released on [[27 September|September 27]], [[2011]].<br />
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:'''Book IV - Rise of Isengard'''<br />
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Passing into the lands of Dunland, the Rangers investigate the loyalties of the local tribes of Dunlendings. Some are fiercely loyal to Saruman, other openly oppose him and many have not yet been convinced to do either. The Falcon-clan of Tur Morva village offers the Rangers shelter in exchange for their help against Saruman. The Rangers busy themselves with preparations for war while the player is send to scout the rest of Dunland. Finding a surprise ally in Nona, who insists that she does not need Halbarad's permission to travel over her own land, the player and the Rangers come into first contact with the Rohirrim. Riders led by [[Grimbold]] hold the [[Fords of Isen]] against inevitable assault, while [[Théodred]], son of King [[Théoden]], leads a smaller scouting party into the lands of the Dunlendings, who have been sworn enemies of [[Rohan]] for centuries. Returning to village of Tur Morva, the player finds a betrayal waiting for them: the clan decided that more is to be gained by siding with Saruman than by opposing him. The Grey Company is caught unprepared, many Rangers are killed and the rest captured. <br />
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The player and Ranger Lothrandir are send directly to Isengard as a gift to Saruman. Separated from the Ranger, the player is send working into the pits, observed by merciless Uruks. Using the dislike of Uruks for each other, the player fakes a total submission and is eventually allowed more freedom, as none believes him able to escape any longer. The player finds other prisoners, among them captured Rohirrim and Dunlendings - sworn enemies once, both find something in common after been made slaves to Saruman. Staging a diversion and freeing many prisoners at once, the player is able to sneak past confusion and escape Isengard. <br />
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Théodred offers the Rangers Saeradan and Radanir help in rescuing their captive friends and avenging the betrayal. The player and Rohirrim storm the village of traitors and rescue many Rangers, including Halbarad and the sons of [[Elrond]]. Yet they are still outnumbered - the leader of the traitorous clan gloats over Ranger's weaknesses and allows them to leave, telling them to spread the tale of how the Falcon-clan beat them. Of almost 60 named Rangers barely 30 made it out alive: Halbarad takes an oath to avenge the traitors and proclaims himself in eternal debt to Théodred, before planning the next move.<br />
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:'''Book V - The Prince of Rohan'''<br />
The secrecy required by Grey Company's errand and their weakened state following capture and imprisonment prevents them from continuing their journey for the time being. Finishing his scouting of Dunlending lands, Prince Théodred returns to the [[Fords of Isen]] and [[Halbarad]] bids the player to go with him, to repay the debt. Saying farewell to old friends, the player arrives at [[Grimbold]]'s encampment and joins the preparations for the upcoming battle. Théodred shares his plan: the Rohirrim are to journey north to [[Isengard]] and smash the vanguard of Saruman's forces, then retreat to the Ford, forcing the Wizard to delay his assault on [[Rohan]] and buy themselves valuable time.<br />
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At dawn, the Prince leaves a small company to guard the Ford and leads his Éored into battle, with Grimbold and the player at his side. They encounter the vanguard of the [[Uruk]]s and quickly cut through their lines, but then reinforcements come out of Isengard and outflank the cavalry, nearly surrounding them. Théodred orders a retreat, covered by Grimbold and the player, who have to cut down their pursuers many times. Unknown to the Rohirrim, Saruman has already send his main force to the Ford of [[Isen]] by the eastern bank of the river while the riders attacked from west. The defenders of the Ford are caught between two forces and are surrounded on a small island amidst the river by the time Théodred returns. Their forces are already failing by the time Grimbold and the player arrive. They cut through the enemies, but as they reach Théodred, he is struck by a mighty Uruk. It is then that the reinforcements from [[Riddermark]] finally arrive, led by [[Elfhelm]] from [[Helm's Deep]], and charge the attackers. The Uruks retreat to Isengard, while Elfhelm and Grimbold tend to the gravely wounded Prince, who orders to bury him at the Ford - to guard it until such time as [[Éomer]] comes. At nightfall, the Prince of the Riddermark passes away.<br />
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:'''Book VI - Mists of Anduin'''<br />
Regrouping at Grimbold's encampment at night, Rohirrim and the player take a rest after a long day of battle. The player experiences a strange lucid dream, seeing many friends and enemies, both living and already dead. An apparition of Lady [[Galadriel]] bids the player to come and visit her urgently, adding a request to "bring the ghost" at the end. "The Ghost" refers to the Dunlending girl Nona, who had dubbed herself "Wadu's Ghost" in memory of her late brother and began waging her own vendetta over the Dunlendings who sold themselves over to [[Saruman]]. The players tracks Nona in the [[Gap of Rohan]] and convinces her to undertake a journey to [[Lothlorien]]. While the Galadhrim border sentries are even more distrusting of an outsider from [[Dunland]] than usual, the two are granted an audience. Galadriel shocks the player by saying that the dream had nothing to do with her, when [[Gandalf the White]] enters the conversation, having barely missed the Fellowship as they departed down the Great River days earlier. The Wizard insists that the dream must have had meaning and bids the player to explore the shores of Anduin downstream. After passing through Rohirrim border settlement of Stangard, the player and Nona arrive at the [[Brown Lands]], where they find a new threat: a corpse of a fell beast, slain by an arrow fired by [[Legolas]] as described in [[Fellowship of the Ring]], with its rider missing. On their way back to Rohirrim town, the player and Nona are attacked by first a band of [[Easterlings]] and later the [[Nazgul]] himself. Using the fire, the two manage to hold their ground, yet Nona is wounded - and whether by an Easterling blade or a [[Morgul]] one is unclear. With all haste the player takes her back to Lady Galadriel, who heals the wound, leaving Nona out of danger. Later, the Galadriel reveals to the player that in her Mirror she foresaw Nona's demise and that she was saved only by the player's actions.<br />
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'''''The Lord of the Rings Online: Siege of Mirkwood''''' is the second expansion for ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online]]'', a massively multiplayer online role-playing game (MMORPG) set in [[Middle-earth]] during the time of ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]''. <br />
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==Contents==<br />
Siege of Mirkwood opens up environments in southern [[Mirkwood]]. The level cap is raised to 65. It also includes new traits, virtues, skills and class quests. A new "skirmish" system allows for repeatable, randomised and scaleable combat based instances that can be accessed from anywhere in the game world for 3, 6 and 12 players and a new 12 player raid takes place in [[Dol Guldur]].<ref>[http://blastmagazine.com/the-magazine/gaming/gaming-news/2009/09/lord-of-the-rings-online-continues-to-grow-with-siege-of-mirkwood/ Blast Magazine]</ref><br />
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==Synopsis==<br />
Unlike ''Mines of Moria'', where the epic story line shared the same title as the expansion, ''Siege of Mirkwood'''s epic story line is titled Volume III: ''Allies of the King''. The expansion also included the final book and the epilogue to Volume II.<br />
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=== Volume II: Mines of Moria ===<br />
:'''Book IX - Fortress of the Nazgul'''<br />
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The band of elves known as the Hidden Guard has crossed the [[Anduin]] river into the region of [[Mirkwood]], with Mazog as their prisoner. As the elves of [[Lothlórien|Lothlorien]] set up numerous camps through Mirkwood, they plan their attack on the fortress of [[Dol Guldur]]. The Hidden Guard continues to take Mazog through the dangerous forest unseen and through the Scuttledells, where Issuriel and Mazog are seriously wounded by the giant queen spider who dwells in those parts. The elf Achardor becomes furious that his companion has been wounded and threatens Mazog's life if Issuriel falls. Issuriel speaks of a rare antidote that will cure the poison but later refuses to take it instead to let Mazog take it. Achardor is even more outraged with this action taken but just before Issuriel loses her life the dwarf Broin finds more of the rare herb and the quest to Dol Guldur can continue. The Hidden Guard soon arrives at the gates of Dol Guldur where the trade of Mazog for Bori takes place. But Gorothul and [[Nazgûl|Ringwraiths]] arrive at the scene and refuse to hand over Bori, Broin quickly saves the elves from been slain by Gorothul but the elf Achardor chooses to stand against the [[Nazgûl]] and is killed. Mazog is freed and returns with the enemy. The elves of Lothlorien soon strike the fortress of Dol Guldur and free Bori from his cell. The elves capture the outside walls of Dol Guldur now only the tower is left to take. The raid on Dol Guldur continues within the dark tower and at the end of a tremendous battle the orc Mazog is slain by the mithril axe Zigilburk.<br />
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:'''Epilogue - Of Elves and Dwarves'''<br />
The elves and dwarves finish the last deeds throughout southern [[Mirkwood]]. The axe Zigilburk is buried yet again where the dwarves found it, to never wield its power again. The Elves of Lothlorien also strike several additional blows against the dark fortress, scouting three key locations and capturing one. Additionally, Gorothul is challenged in another assault within his quarters in Sammath Gul, where he is finally defeated.<br />
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=== Volume III: Allies of the King ===<br />
:'''Book I - Oath of the Rangers'''<br />
[[Elrond]] received a mysterious message from [[Galadriel]], telling him to gather the [[Rangers of the North]] and send them to [[Rohan]] to help [[Aragorn]]. The player is summoned to the [[Rivendell|Last Homely House]] and given a list of Rangers to recruit: Radanir, Candaith, Saeradan, Halros, [[Halbarad]], Calenglad, Lothrandir, Corunir and Golodir.<br />
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:'''Book II - Ride of the Grey Company'''<br />
The [[Grey Company]] starts its journey south and arrives in [[Enedwaith]]. [[Halbarad]] has crafted fake copies of the [[Ring of Barahir]], in order to buy [[Aragorn]] time, in case one of the Grey Company gets captured. In Enedwaith, they discover an old and confused Dwarf, [[Nár]], father of Ollfardh and companion of [[Thrór]]. To everyone's amazement, he knows about the secret road the Company is planning to take.<br />
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:'''Book III - Echoes of the Dead'''<br />
While investigating who can be trusted and who can't, the [[Rangers of the North|Rangers]] receive word that there is a band of Oathbreakers from Erech in Enedwaith. An attempt to remind them of their Oath to Isildur fails horribly when Candaith is killed. [[Halbarad]] wants to lead the company on to [[Dunland]], but as they leave [[Nár]], the Dwarf reveals [[Saruman|Saruman the White]] had a hand in these events all along.<br />
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'''''The Lord of the Rings Online: Mines of Moria''''' is a massively multiplayer online role-playing game (MMORPG) set in [[Middle-earth]] during the time of [[The Lord of the Rings]]. It is the first expansion for ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online]]'' and is referred to as volume II of the game.<br />
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The game's story line starts at the beginning of ''[[The Fellowship of the Ring]]'' Book II, Chapter III "[[The Ring goes South]]" and currently ends at the midpoint of Book II, Chapter VI "[[Lothlórien (chapter)|Lothlórien]]".<br />
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==Release==<br />
The second volume of ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online]]'' was announced by Turbine on March 18, 2008 at Codemasters Online Connect. The game was eventually released on November 18, 2008.<br />
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===Unlock the Mines of Moria===<br />
The expansion was promoted through playing web-based minigames. Visitors could play three games: King Under the Mountain, Swig & Toss, Eleventy-Seven Morsels at the [http://www.unlocktheminesofmoria.com/ official site]. By performing certain tasks players could complete "deeds", three of which unlocked a "goodie". These included one trailer and three pieces of game art. By applying for a beta invitation, players could also receive a fourth game art.<br />
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==New Classes==<br />
The expansion adds two new classes to the game: Warden and Rune-keeper.<br />
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'''Wardens''' primarily use spears (though they can opt for other small arms) and wear medium armour, making them neither a tank nor a DPS class specifically. Designed to represent the equivalent of a town sheriff, Wardens are protectors that specialize in combination attacks using their Gambit User Interface. The idea is that a Warden will execute their abilities in certain sequences that eventually culminate in a special attack only available after completing the prescribed set of moves. In practice, the Warden's Gambit UI is an array of two to five (depending on character level) squares that slot the abilities as you use them. Once all of the squares have been filled, a new skill will flash at the end of the bar as it becomes available. <br />
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'''Rune-keepers''' are the closest things to magic-users offered in The Lord of the Rings Online, but they aren't magicians in the traditional sense. Their new Attunement mechanic is represented by a bar with a sliding scale to illustrate whether they're attuned to dealing damage or healing wounds. As a Rune-keeper uses either healing or damaging abilities, the scale slides towards either end of the bar and the Rune-keeper's proficiency in either focus increases. As the Rune-keeper increases focus towards one end of the scale, more of those skills become available in greater power. However, the Rune-keeper will then also lose focus on the other end of the scale, making the skills associated with the opposite end unavailable. Therefore, the Rune-keeper can only effectively manoeuvre either their healing or damage abilities, but not both. Switching between proficiencies requires time. This release of this class was very controversial, as Turbine claims to have no use of magic in the Lord of the Rings worlds, as in the lore magic was restricted to the Valar. <br />
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As well as these new classes, current classes that were available with the release of ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Shadows of Angmar]]'' were improved with added skills for the additional levels included in the expansion.<br />
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==Synopsis==<br />
:'''Prologue'''<br />
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:'''Book I - The Walls of Moria'''<br />
An expedition of dwarves known as the Iron Garrison begins its attempts to excavate and enter the [[Hollin Gate]], lead by Brogur and Bosi. They finally succeeding with the player's help, yet when the last rocks are cleared, the [[Watcher in the Water]] attacks the assembled dwarves, claiming the life of Brogur's son Broin. As they regroup, they turn their hope to a discovered cache of older weapons, tasking the player with discovering if one such weapon might be endowed with the power to fight off such a foe as the Watcher. After selecting, training with, and reforging such a weapon, the Iron Garrison faces the Watcher again. This time, it is forced from the Black Pool, and the Iron Garrison passes into [[Moria]].<br />
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:'''Book II - Echoes in the Dark'''<br />
Establishing themselves in their new home, the Iron Garrison begins the task of rediscovering the lore and artefacts of their heritage. One such passage of lore speaks of an ancient dwarf-smith, favored by [[Durin VI|Durin]], who endeavoured to create an axe of solid mithril. So large was the task that an entire forge was created specifically for it: The Heart of Fire. After searching the mines for clues to its location, the Heart of Fire is unearthed, yet the axe, Zigilburk, is nowhere to be found. Nevertheless, the dwarves are heartened by the recovery of one of their greatest forges, and Brogur pushes onward into Moria, establishing a command post in the [[Twenty-First Hall]].<br />
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:'''Book III - The Lord of Moria'''<br />
Brogur sees to the defence of the Twenty-First Hall, only to learn of the presence of the White Hand's minions nearby. Meanwhile, excavation begins in the [[Chamber of Mazarbul]], producing the [[Book of Mazarbul]], a record of the demise of Balin's Company. While Bosi takes on the task of reading the tome in its entirety, his son Bori plans a strike against the White Hand in Broin's honour. While a pair of dwarves cause a diversion, Bori and the player sneak into the White Hand camp and confront the commander, Ashpar. Before he dies, he boasts that his is not the major power, and mentions the name Mazog. Brogur rests assured that Ashpar was simply boasting, yet the news weighs heavy on Bosi. Mazog, he reveals, was the orc commander who slew Balin's company at Mazarbul.<br />
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:'''Book IV - Fire and Water'''<br />
[[Image:Gorrem - Orc of Moria.jpg|thumb|Concept art of an [[Orcs|Orc]] of [[Moria]].]]<br />
The Orcs and Dwarves each prepare for war. Fearing that attacks may be imminent, Brogur and Bori see that the defenses are secured at the Twenty-First Hall, the Chamber of Crossroads, and the Heart of Fire. The player is sent into the rotting Waterworks and orc-infested Flaming Deeps beneath Moria to both harass the orcs and gather supplies. In the meantime, Bori sneaks a look at the [[Book of Mazarbul]], finding mention there of a dwarf named [[Óin|Oin]] who went off in search of Zigilburk. Bori and the player follow Oin's path, arriving after a time at a flooded treasury, The Hall of Mithril. There they find not only Zigilburk, but also Broin (wounded, but alive) and the [[Watcher in the Water]]. The player drives the Watcher from the hall, and the dwarves return in victory. Yet Broin confesses from his sickbed that he feels a dread about Zigilburk, and fears it may be cursed.<br />
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:'''Book V - Drums in the Deep'''<br />
Broin is still worried about the repercussions of recovering Zigilburk, and asks the player to tell Bori of his reservations. Bori laughs them off, and sends the player to Zabadgathol, Mazog's fortress, to defeat some of his bodyguards. Some of these in their dying words speak of an alliance they have obtained, and the player is again sent away to collect some of the treasure in Zabadgathol to see if it can shed some light on the issue. It is discovered that Mazog is indeed allied with [[Dol Guldur]]. After learning this, Bori plans a raid on Zabadgathol to defeat Mazog once and for all. Even with Zigilburk, Bori and the player are unsuccessful, and Bori along with the legendary axe are captured. After this blow, the player is sent by Brogur to consult with Bosi. He, too has lost hope in the expedition to reclaim Moria, and leaves it up to the player to see to the defenses during a major raid by Mazog's forces.<br />
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:'''Book VI - The Shadowy Abyss'''<br />
Even after the successful defence of several key locations, Bosi's spirits are still low. He sends the player to [[Lothlórien]] to seek help from the Elves of the Golden Wood. After proving to [[Haldir]] that you are indeed a friend, he asks the player to assist his brothers in patrolling the borders of the Wood while messengers are sent to [[Galadriel]] to relay Bosi's request for aid. By the time the task is done, a company of elves has already been sent to the Foundations of Stone, and the player is directed to help them. Once there, the player is directed to defeat some of Mazog's minions that are believed to have been sent into the Foundations to search for something, but the Elves believe Dol Guldur is behind this move of the orcs. After collecting confirmation that the orcs are indeed searching for something, the player is sent back to defeat some of them. After the player has slain many of the orcs, some more of the elves sent from Lothlórien ask for aid in other tasks. The player is instructed to find clues of [[Gandalf]]'s passage through the area, and also to help contain some of the nameless creatures that dwell in the Foundations. Finally, an elf named Magor has gone missing, and the others are getting worried. A clue is found outside a dark cave, and the player is sent in to see if Magor is inside. It is revealed that Magor was captured by orcs who took him inside the cave, and the player is able to free him from his captors. Magor then asks for the player's help in defeating the source of the evil that Galadriel sensed beneath Moria. After a hard-fought battle, the player defeats the nameless creature in the depths of the cave. Finally, hearing of the victory the Lady Galadriel summons the player to her garden where many secrets are revealed, including a partial explanation of the fate of Gandalf.<br />
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:'''Book VII - Leaves of Lórien'''<br />
The Fellowship rests in [[Lothlórien|Lórien]], while elves and dwarves take their first steps toward peace. Bosi is granted an audience with [[Celeborn]] and [[Galadriel]], resulting in a contingent of [[Galadhrim]] being dispatched to aid the dwarves in Moria. Among their first joint tasks is to sweep an infestation of Globsnaga from a recent excavation in Buzun-ghar - a matter that proves especially frustrating to Broin, in the wake of Bori's capture. Instead of working to free their kinsmen, Brogur is pushing ahead with mining efforts, tasking Broin with searching old mining records for notes on potential nodes. Yet such efforts once again prove fruitful, as one record speaks of a secret emergency passage leading from Durin's throne (on which Mazog sits) to Buzun-ghar. Through its use, and the cooperation of elf and dwarf, Mazog is soon captured, yet Bori is nowhere to be found, having been sent away to [[Dol Guldur]]. [[Celeborn]] grants the player an audience, commending them while also disagreeing on the notion of sparing Mazog's life. And afterword, [[Haldir]] confesses the time may be drawing near for the elves to cross the [[Anduin]] to confront the evil in [[Mirkwood]].<br />
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:'''Book VIII - Scourge of Khazad-dûm'''<br />
After talking to Haldir the player visits the elves of Lothlórien and their history keeper asks the player to recount the finer points of how the player escaped with Mazog from his throne room, causing the player to "relive" the escape with varying results based on your prowess. Broin here helps with a changeable banner and by fighting alongside the player. Things get dangerous in spots but eventually the player escapes with Mazog and Broin (who has to survive). Mazog lets slip a chilling fact, that he's not interested in being a king of Moria because Moria will soon not be fit to rule. This probably refers to the fungus taking over the lower regions. The player then talks to the elves about this vile pestilence.<br />
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| name=The Lord of the Rings Online:<br>Shadows of Angmar<br />
| developer=[[Turbine|Turbine, Inc]]<br />
| publisher=[[Turbine|Turbine, Inc]] (North America and Europe)<br />[[Midway Games]]<br />[[Codemasters]] (Europe, till 2010))<br/>[[IT Territory]] (Russia)<ref name="Korea and Russia">{{webcite|author=William Dobson|articleurl=http://www.engadget.com/2009-04-23-lord-of-the-rings-online-launches-in-korea-and-russia.html|articlename=Lord of the Rings Online launches in Korea and Russia|dated=23 April 2009|website=Engadget|accessed=23 August 2020}}</ref><br/>[[NHN Corporation]] (South Korea)<ref name="Korea and Russia"/><br>[[Sakura Internet]] (Japan, till 2009)<ref>{{webcite|author=Karl B.|articleurl=http://qj.net/turbine-eyes-japanese-market-for-lotro-distribution/|articlename=Turbine eyes Japanese market for LotRO distribution|dated=22 September 2006|website=qj.net|accessed=23 August 2020}}</ref><br />
| platform=Microsoft Windows<br />
| releasedate=[[24 April|April 24]], [[2007]]<br />
| genre=MMORPG<br />
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'''''The Lord of the Rings Online: Shadows of Angmar''''' is a massively multiplayer online role-playing game (MMORPG) set in [[Middle-earth]] during the time of ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]''. It is the initial version of ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online]]'' (LOTRO or LotRO) and is referred to as volume I of the game.<br />
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The game's story line starts at the beginning of ''[[The Fellowship of the Ring]]'' Book I, Chapter III "[[Three is Company]]" and ends at the end of Book II, Chapter II "[[The Council of Elrond]]".<br />
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==Release==<br />
[[Turbine]] and [[Midway Games, Inc.]] officially launched ''The Lord of the Rings Online: Shadows of Angmar'' on April 24th, 2007 in North America for PC computers. [[Codemasters]] handles the European version of the game.<br />
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==Game Play==<br />
In ''Shadows of Angmar'', Turbine allows players to create customized characters ([[elves]], [[dwarves]], [[hobbits]], or [[men]]) to explore Middle-earth as a persistent 3D world environment, undertaking trivial and epic quests (the main story line), and battling against a wide variety of creatures and enemies in player-vs-environment. These are creatures and enemies found in the [[legendarium]]. Players can also craft equipment and consumable items (including the popular varieties of pipe-weed), as well as enjoy recreational activities such as player-generated music.<br />
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The game also has player-vs-player (PvP) combat with the [[free peoples]] fighting player controlled enemies (called "creeps). Once the player levels a free person to level 10 they can create an [[Orcs|orc]], [[uruk-hai]], [[warg]] or [[spider]] and fight against the free peoples. Player-vs-player is limited to the region of the [[Ettenmoors]].<br />
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==Cast==<br />
The majority of the dialog in the game is textually based, but there are some characters with spoken dialog. There are also some characters that will speak a line or two of the dialog, but the rest of the dialog will be text.<br />
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| Sandar / Chef Vraz / Warg Rider Goblin || [[Mike Vaughn]]<br />
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| Additional Voices || [[Brian Talbot]]<br />
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| Additional Voices || [[Neil Kaplan]]<br />
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==Epic story line==<br />
The prologue and books one through eight were included with this title. The introduction for Dwarves, Elves, Hobbits and Men were also in ''Shadows of Angmar''. The introduction for Beornings was introduced in the update ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Gondor Aflame|Gondor Aflame]]'', for High Elves in the expansion ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Mordor|Mordor]]'', and for Stout-axes in the expansion ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Minas Morgul|Minas Morgul]]''. The story line continues in the patch ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Shores of Evendim|Shores of Evendim]]''.<br />
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:'''Introduction:'''<br />
There are five different introductions depending on the race of the player.<br />
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:::'''Beorning:'''<br />
::The player is spending idle time on the shores of the river [[Anduin]] with another [[Beorn]] named Sterkist, the player's brother. He reflects if there is more to life than spending it gazing at the river after chores are done. The voice of [[Radagast]] is heard coming from [[Grimbeorn|Grimbeorn's]] lodge. Sterkist wonders what brought the wizard to their home. He sends you to Varthmath to see if he knows the answer. If he knows, he's not telling the player. He instructs the player to mind their own business and bring the milk-cow back into her pen. After herding the cow, the player meets up with Ofolmóth who remarks that the player has grown soft. He challenges the player into a spar. After he's had enough, he tells you to hunt the sickle-files that plague the area. After defeating a number of them the player's sister Langhár draws your attention from a nearby field of clover. The two of you head back Grimbeorn's lodge. Along the way the player spots goblins. Langhár tells the player to warn the others at the entrance to the lodge. You find Sterkist and tell him about the goblins. It is unusual for them to venture this close to home since they fear the Beorn. You overhear Radagast talking to Grimbeorn saying that word of this unusual activity by the goblins needs to be relayed to other folk that can be trusted. Radagast wants him to send all of his kin, but Grimbeorn said he could only spare one, the player. Packing up some belongings, the player makes towards the mountains on horseback. <br />
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::After a long journey, the player arrives in [[Archet]]. The player asks Letty Foxtail if she knows where the Ranger [[Aragorn]] is at as he heard he was heading this way. She says that he did pass this way. She tells the player to seek out [[Jon Brackenbrook]] as he might know more. Jon states that he doesn't know where Aragorn went to. He informs the player that the town was attacked and nearly burned down by [[Blackwolds|Blackwold]] brigands. He says they have slain his father, the leader of Archet and that he is trying to rebuild the settlement. He requests the player's assistance. ''[The story continues in Prologue: Man and Beorning.]''<br />
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:::'''Hobbit and Man:'''<br />
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:::'''Dwarf and Elf:'''<br />
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:::'''High Elf:'''<br />
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:::'''Stout-axe:'''<br />
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:'''Prologue:'''<br />
There are four different prologues with the dwarf/stout-axe and elf/high elf prologue merging at one point. Although they are initially separated by race, a player of any race can do any of the prologues.<br />
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:::'''Dwarf and Stout-axe:'''<br />
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:::'''Elf and High Elf:'''<br />
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:::'''Dwarf, Stout-axe, Elf and High Elf:'''<br />
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:::'''Hobbit:'''<br />
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:::'''Man and Beorning:'''<br />
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:'''Book I - ''Stirrings in the Darkness'':'''<br />
After the prologue, the player is sent to [[Aragorn]], who needs your help to weaken the Blackwolds, a hostile gang within Breeland, secretly backed by agents of [[Angmar]]. After helping Aragorn and the [[Rangers of the North|Rangers]], they send you to [[Tom Bombadil]] to destroy the evil in Othrongroth, The Great Barrow of the [[Barrow-downs]]. Though the Wightlord Sambrog is defeated, the [[Witch-king]], Ivar and Skorgrim escape. Upon returning to [[Bree]], you discover Aragorn has left with the [[Hobbits]] and the player meets [[Gandalf]], who was too late to help. As he leaves for [[Rivendell]] too, he instructs you to find one of his fellow [[Istari]].<br />
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:'''Book II - ''The Red Maid'':'''<br />
[[Radagast|Radagast the Brown]] asks for your help in cleansing Garth Agarwen from the evil wights that inhabit it. Ultimately you and Radagast will fight Ivar the Bloodhand, their leader and a servant of the Witch-king. After succeeding, you are urgently sent to the North Downs to aid the Rangers there.<br />
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:'''Book III - ''The Council of the North'':'''<br />
You are asked by [[Halbarad]] to aid in the defence of the North Downs against Angmar's forces, by uniting the three main armies of the North Downs: the Men of Trestlebridge, the [[Dwarves]] led by [[Dori]] and [[Gildor]]'s Elves. After this, You are sent to Rivendell, where the [[Fellowship of the Ring|Fellowship]] has now safely arrived.<br />
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:'''Book IV - ''Chasing Shadows'':'''<br />
[[Nazgûl|The Black Rider]] that survived the Flood of [[Elrond]] is still in the [[Trollshaws]], making it impossible for the Fellowship to leave. With the help of [[Legolas]], [[Elladan]] and [[Elrohir]], you chase the Nazgûl, destroying the Trolls he has corrupted, and forcing the Ringwraith to retreat to the [[Misty Mountains]]. You are sent to pursue him, where [[Glóin]] and [[Gimli]] have set up camp.<br />
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:'''Book V - ''The Last Refuge'':'''<br />
Your search for the [[Nazgûl]] brings you to the final stronghold of Skorgrim and the Dourhands. An assault led by Gimli will result in the fall of Skorgrim and the Dourhands. But the Nazgûl has fled to Helegrod, where the ancient Dragon Thorog has been revived in order to serve the [[Sauron|Dark Lord]]. You arrive just in time to stop the Nazgûl, defeating him and making the Dragon harmless, for now. Now that Rivendell is safe, it is time to move on to [[Angmar]] itself.<br />
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:'''Book VI - ''Fires in the North'':'''<br />
Rangers, led by Corunir and Golodir, have gone to Angmar and their kinsmen want to know what has become of them. Upon entering Angmar, you find Corunir safe in a friendly Hillmen village. He begs you to find his lost company, who passed through Rammas Deluon: a great series of statues that weakens (or even kills) those who pass it. But after destroying the spirits within them, you are able to resist the power of Rammas Deluon, and find a dwarf settlement, where a part of the scattered party lives.<br />
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:'''Book VII - ''The Hidden Hope'':'''<br />
You are informed Golodir settled at Gath Forthnir, far in the North. When arriving there, Golodir is gone and the Rangers are led by his daughter, Lorniel. Lorniel reveals that Golodir has been captured by [[Mordirith]], Steward of Angmar, and has been locked away in [[Carn Dûm]]. As leader of the remaining Rangers, and with the help of Laerdan, Lorniel launches an assault on Carn Dûm, where she is slain by Mordirith, who then releases Golodir, to continue his torture. <br />
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:'''Book VIII - ''The Scourge of the North'':'''<br />
Golodir's grief for the death of his daughter has almost destroyed him, yet he sees a chance to avenge her. Reclaiming an ancient sword, he travels with you to the heart of [[Carn Dûm]], defeating Mordirith with the blade. Mordirith drops his ''[[palantír]]'', a great seeing stone, which is quickly taken by the mysterious Sara Oakheart.<br />
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:'''Book IX - ''Shores of Evendim'':'''<br />
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You learn Sara Oakheart is no less than [[Amarthiel]], the Champion of Angmar. She has set up a plot from Barad Gularan to use you to weaken Mordirith. Now she has the ''palantír'', she can communicate with Sauron and challenge Mordirith's position. You are sent to kill all of Mordirith's Knights, in an attempt to further weaken his power. But despite your victories over Mordirith, Amarthiel only grows stronger. After losing [[Fornost]] and Barad Gularan, she moves to [[Annúminas]], the ancient capital of [[Arnor]]. The Rangers there, led by Calenglad, need your aid.<br />
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:'''Book X - ''The City of Kings'':'''<br />
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A massive battle in Annúminas ensues, the wise [[Elves|Elf]] Laerdan offers his services to Calenglad. One of Amarthiel's captains is captured, but while in captivity, he angers Laerdan, making the Elf decide to fight Amarthiel on his own, in an attempt to make up for his mistakes in the past. Again the Free People have been tricked by Amarthiel and her servants. Together with the Rangers of Evendim, you are able to wrestle the ''palantír'' from Amarthiel's clutches, but Laerdan is lost. But within the ''palantír'', Amarthiel saw a glimpse of where Narchuil, her ancient ring, lies. She is now determined to possess its power once more.<br />
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:'''Book XI - ''Prisoner of the Free Peoples'':'''<br />
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Amarthiel's captain Mordrambor breaks free, killing many rangers. Soon he leads an army out of [[Annúminas]], to find Amarthiel's Ring, Narchuil. You attempt to find Narchuil before Amarthiel can, searching the ancient ruins of the [[Trollshaws]]. After much searching, it turns out Narmeleth, Laerdan's daughter, who originally caused Amarthiel's fall in Fornost, has become possessed by her. But all searching seems in vain, when it is revealed Amarthiel has already found Narchuil. However, Elrond does not fall for her trickery again, he realises Narchuil is still out there, and Laerdan knows where.<br />
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:'''Book XII - ''The Ashen Wastes'':'''<br />
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Amarthiel has Laerdan transported to Angmar, where she learns from him under torture where her Ring is. In a brave attempt to save both Laerdan and the ring Narchuil, you are able to get to them before Amarthiel does, despite losing another Ranger. But only half of the ring was found. Laerdan confesses to Elrond he has broken Narchuil in two, and where the other part should be. But then he swears an oath upon [[Varda|Elbereth]] that he will not rest before he has saved his daughter, and leaves the Council.<br />
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:'''Book XIII - ''Doom of the Last-King'':'''<br />
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Trying to find out more about the other half of Narchuil, you are sent to [[Forochel]]. However Amarthiel's forces have already arrived, and are already searching. In an attempt to find the ring before the Angmarim, the player receives help from [[Arvedui]]'s Ghost. In the final chapter, it seems Mordrambor has betrayed Amarthiel; the two start to battle and disappear from view. The player then retrieves the second half of Narchuil and returns it to Rivendell.<br />
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:'''Book XIV - ''The Ring-forges of Eregion'':'''<br />
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Still seeking to save Narmeleth, Laerdan travels with the two halves of Narchuil to [[Eregion]]. Amarthiel, baiting him in, reclaims Narchuil for herself. Elrond sends many Heralds of Rivendell to all corners of [[Eriador]] to help him in his search for the lost Ring-lore. But all efforts are too late, for Narchuil has been reforged when the Free People reach Eregion. It quickly becomes clear none are able to withstand Narchuil, until Mordrambor, Amarthiel's former servant, arrives. They go outside, where Mordirith arrives. Mordirith is in power once again, but Amarthiel does not surrender and believes she can defeat him with Narchuil. But Mordirith has the power of the Witch-king and defeats her. Mordrambor claims Narchuil as his own, and when he is about to finish Amarthiel, Laerdan appears. He now knows Mordirith is actually [[Eärnur]], the last King of [[Gondor]]. Mordirith orders Mordrambor to kill Laerdan, after which the two leave. Amarthiel is crying over her father, and set captive by the Free People.<br />
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:'''Book XV - ''Daughter of Strife'':'''<br />
With the death of her father, Narmeleth is once again freed from the evil influence of Amarthiel. Narmeleth becomes a captive of the Free Peoples and she sacrifices herself in order to help defeat Mordrambor and aid the Free Peoples. The book ends bittersweet with Narmeleth's redemption and her death.<br />
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! align="center" colspan="2" style="background: #CCCCFF;"|'''Licensed video games set in [[Middle-earth]]'''<br />
|-<br />
!style="font-size: 90%;" align="center" style="background: #F2F2FF;"|&nbsp;[[Melbourne House]]: <br />
|style="font-size: 90%; padding-left: 7px;"|'''''[[The Hobbit (1982 video game)|The Hobbit]]''''' ([[1982]]) · '''''[[Lord of the Rings: Game One]]''''' ([[1985]]) · '''''[[Shadows of Mordor]]''''' ([[1988]]) · '''''[[J.R.R. Tolkien's War in Middle Earth|War in Middle Earth]]''''' ([[1988]]) · '''''[[Crack of Doom Software Adventure]]''''' ([[1989]]) · '''''[[J.R.R. Tolkien's Riders of Rohan|Riders of Rohan]]''''' ([[1990]])<br />
|-<br />
!style="font-size: 90%;" align="center" style="background: #F2F2FF;"|&nbsp;[[Interplay Productions]]: <br />
|style="font-size: 90%; padding-left: 7px;"|'''''[[J.R.R. Tolkien's The Lord of the Rings, Vol. I (1990 video game)|The Lord of the Rings, Vol. I (PC)]]''''' ([[1990]]) · '''''[[J.R.R. Tolkien's The Lord of the Rings, Vol. II: The Two Towers|The Lord of the Rings, Vol. II: The Two Towers]]''''' ([[1993]]) · '''''[[J.R.R. Tolkien's The Lord of the Rings, Vol. I (SNES)|The Lord of the Rings, Vol. I (SNES)]]''''' ([[1994]])<br />
|-<br />
!style="font-size: 90%;" align="center" style="background: #F2F2FF;"|&nbsp;[[Vivendi Universal]]: <br />
|style="font-size: 90%; padding-left: 7px;"|'''''[[The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (video game)|The Fellowship of the Ring]]''''' ([[2002]]) · '''''[[The Hobbit (2003 video game)|The Hobbit]]''''' ([[2003]]) · '''''[[The Lord of the Rings: War of the Ring|War of the Ring]]''''' ([[2003]])<br />
|-<br />
!style="font-size: 90%;" align="center" style="background: #F2F2FF;"|&nbsp;[[Electronic Arts]]: <br />
|style="font-size: 90%; padding-left: 7px;"|'''''[[The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (video game)|The Two Towers]]''''' ([[2002]]) · '''''[[The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (video game)|The Return of the King]]''''' ([[2003]]) · '''''[[The Lord of the Rings: The Third Age|The Third Age]]''''' ([[2004]]) · '''''[[The Lord of the Rings: The Battle for Middle-earth|The Battle for Middle-earth]]''''' ([[2004]]) · '''''[[The Lord of the Rings: Tactics|Tactics]]''''' ([[2005]]) · '''''[[The Lord of the Rings: The Battle for Middle-earth II|The Battle for Middle-earth II]]''''' ([[2006]]) <small>(''[[The Lord of the Rings: The Battle for Middle-earth II: The Rise of the Witch-king|The Rise of the Witch-king]]'' ([[2006]]))</small> · '''''[[The Lord of the Rings: Conquest|Conquest]]''''' ([[2009]])<br />
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|style="font-size: 90%; padding-left: 7px;"|'''''[[The Lord of the Rings Online]]: [[The Lord of the Rings Online: Shadows of Angmar|Shadows of Angmar]]''''' ([[2007]]-) <small>(''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Mines of Moria|Mines of Moria]]'' ([[2008]]) · ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Siege of Mirkwood|Siege of Mirkwood]]'' ([[2009]]) · ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Rise of Isengard|Rise of Isengard]]'' ([[2011]]) · ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Riders of Rohan|Riders of Rohan]]'' ([[2012]]) · ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Helm's Deep|Helm's Deep]]'' ([[2013]]) · ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Mordor|Mordor]]'' ([[2017]]) · ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Minas Morgul|Minas Morgul]]'' ([[2019]])) - ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: War of Three Peaks|War of Three Peaks]]'' ([[2020]]) - ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Fate of Gundabad|Fate of Gundabad]]'' ([[2021]])</small><br />
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!style="font-size: 90%;" align="center" style="background: #F2F2FF;"|&nbsp;[[Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment|Warner Bros]]: <br />
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<div>{{half-elf infobox<br />
| name=Arwen<br />
| image=[[File:John Howe - Arwen.jpg|250px]]<br />
| caption="Arwen" by [[John Howe]]<br />
| pronun=[[Sindarin|S]], {{IPA|[ˈarwen]}}<br />
| othernames=''Undómiel'' ([[Quenya|Q]]: "Evenstar")<br />''Elerondiel'' ([[Quenya|Q]])<br />''Elrenniel'' ([[Sindarin|S]])<br />
| titles=Lady of Rivendell<br />Queen of Elves and Men<br />Queen of Gondor<br />
| location=[[Rivendell]], [[Lothlórien]], [[Reunited Kingdom]]<br />
| position=<br />
| affiliation=<br />
| language=Primarily [[Sindarin]]<ref name="Languages">{{App|Elves}}</ref><br />
| birth={{TA|241}}<br />
| birthlocation=<br />
| rule={{TA|3019}} - {{FoA|120}}<br />
| death={{FoA|121}}<br />
| deathlocation=[[Cerin Amroth]], [[Lothlórien]]<br />
| age=2,901<br />
| notablefor=<br />
| house=<br />
| heritage=[[Half-elven]] father, [[Elves|Elf]] mother<br />
| parentage=[[Elrond]] and [[Celebrían]]<br />
| siblings=[[Elladan]] and [[Elrohir]]<br />
| spouse=[[Aragorn]]<br />
| children=[[Eldarion]] and several daughters<br />
| gender=Female<br />
| height=<br />
| hair=Dark<ref name="Many">{{FR|Meetings}}</ref><br />
| eyes=Grey<ref name="Many"/><br />
| clothing=Grey raiment with girdle of silver leaves;<ref name="Many"/> silver and blue mantle<ref name="Tale">{{App|A1v}}</ref><br />
| weapons=<br />
| steed=<br />
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{{quote|[[Frodo Baggins|Frodo]] saw her whom few [[mortals]] had yet seen; '''Arwen''', daughter of [[Elrond]], in whom it was said that the likeness of [[Lúthien]] had come on earth again; and she was called [[Undómiel]], for she was the Evenstar of her people.|''[[The Fellowship of the Ring]]'', "[[Many Meetings]]"}}<br />
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'''Arwen Undómiel''', often called '''Arwen Evenstar''', was one of the [[half-elven]], married to [[Aragorn|Aragorn II]]. She was the daughter of [[Elrond]] and [[Celebrían]].<ref name="Tale"/><br />
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She was considered to be the fairest of the [[Children of Ilúvatar]] in the [[Third Age]], resembling [[Lúthien]] of the [[First Age]] who would never again appear in [[Ëa]]. Her romance with [[Aragorn]] was reminiscent of that between the Man [[Beren]] and the Elf Lúthien. Like Lúthien, she rejected her [[Elves|Elven]] immortality to marry Aragorn and die with him.<ref name="Tale"/><br />
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== History ==<br />
[[File:Anna Lee - Evenstar.jpg|thumb|left|''Evenstar'' by [[Anna Lee]]]]<br />
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Arwen was born in {{TA|241}} and was the younger sister of [[Elladan]] and [[Elrohir]].<ref name=TA>{{App|TA}}</ref> From her mother she inherited the [[Elfstone]].<ref name="CG">{{UT|6}}</ref> As one of the half-elven, she shared the right of her father to choose her fate. She lived most of her life in [[Imladris]], or in [[Lothlórien]] with her grandparents.<ref name="Tale"/><br />
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Her father fostered the sons of the [[Chieftains of the Dúnedain]], who were the exiled [[Heir of Isildur|Heirs of Isildur]].<ref>{{App|Eriador}}</ref> It was in {{TA|2952}} when she returned from Lothlórien to Rivendell when she met a young foster-son of her father, [[Aragorn]]. The young [[Dúnadan]] fell in love when he first saw her, though as he was still a youth, Arwen did not return his love.<ref name="Tale"/><ref name=TA/><br />
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Elrond insisted that Arwen could not marry Aragorn until he became king of both [[Gondor]] and [[Arnor]]. Whether Arwen chose to marry him and become mortal, or remain with her kin as one of the Elves, she would be parted from either Elrond or Aragorn forever.<ref name="Tale"/> <br />
[[File:Abe Papakhian - Lord of Rivendell.jpg|left|thumb|Arwen in Rivendell, art by [[:Category:Images by Abe Papakhian|Abe Papakhian]]]]<br />
It was not until they met many years later in Lórien that Arwen returned Aragorn's love, and in {{TA|2980}} they plighted their troth on [[Cerin Amroth]]. Aragorn gave her the [[Ring of Barahir]].<ref name="Tale"/><ref name=TA/><br />
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In the years leading up to the [[War of the Ring]], the [[Misty Mountains]] and all lands eastward became dangerous, and at the request of her father, Arwen returned to Imladris in {{TA|3009}}.<ref name=TA/><br />
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Arwen was later reunited with Aragorn when he brought the [[Hobbits]] to [[Rivendell]] during the [[War of the Ring]]. She was present at a feast attended by [[Frodo Baggins|Frodo]]. Later that night, she and Aragorn spoke together.<ref name="Many">{{FR|II1}}</ref> When the Fellowship departed and [[Galadriel]] offered them [[Gifts of Galadriel|her gifts]], Arwen's Elfstone, given from Galadriel to Celebrían, and Celebrían to Arwen, was the gift for Aragorn. He would wear the Elfstone ever after.<ref name=Farewell>{{FR|Farewell}}</ref> This giving held the function of a wedding gift from the family of the bride to the groom, foretelling his marriage to Arwen.<ref>{{MR|P3II3}}</ref><br />
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Arwen wove the [[Livery of Elendil]] for Aragorn from black cloth, decorating it with [[mithril]], gems and gold. She sent the banner with her brothers and a group of [[Rangers of the North]] to Aragorn before he took the [[Paths of the Dead]], thereby inspiring him to take the difficult path.<ref>{{RK|V2}}</ref> The banner was unfurled at the [[Battle of the Pelennor Fields]] to triumphantly announce the King's return.<ref>{{RK|V6}}</ref><br />
[[File:Janka Latečková - King and his Queen.jpg|thumb|right|''King and his Queen'' by Janka Latečková]]<br />
After the defeat of [[Sauron]], Aragorn was crowned as [[King of the West]] and the new [[Reunited Kingdom]]; [[1 May|on that day]] Arwen and her father departed for [[Minas Tirith]]. On [[20 May]] they reached Lothlórien where they stayed for [[27 May|a week]] before Arwen resumed with her escort. On [[14 June]] she met her brothers and together they went to [[Edoras]] where they stayed [[16 June|two days]] before continuing to Gondor.<ref name="Chief">{{App|Chief}}</ref> <br />
===Queen===<br />
Arwen arrived to [[Minas Tirith]] on [[1 Lithe]] and wed Aragorn on [[Mid-year's Day]],<ref name="Chief" /> being the third [[Unions of Elves and Men|union of Elves and Men]]. Arwen chose a fate different from her father's and did not sail to the [[Aman|West]]. Instead, she gifted Frodo, as the [[Ring-bearers|Ring-bearer]], passage in her stead, as she foresaw that his burden would not be lifted. She also gifted him a necklace with a white gem. <ref>{{RK|Partings}}</ref><br />
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As Queen of Gondor, Arwen maintained a close connection with Gondor's allies, as did her husband. In {{FoA|15}} they visited the [[Hobbits]] outside [[the Shire]] and she took as a maid of honour [[Elanor Gardner]], daughter of [[Samwise Gamgee]].<ref>{{App|Later}}</ref> She was mother of one son, [[Eldarion]], and at least two unnamed daughters. After Aragorn's death, Arwen departed from Minas Tirith and returned to the abandoned Lothlórien. There she stayed for a time until she gave up her life in {{FoA|121}} at [[Cerin Amroth]], and was buried there.<ref name="Tale"/><br />
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== Etymology==<br />
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'''''Arwen''''' means "Noble Maiden" in [[Sindarin]], from ''[[ara]]-'' ("noble") and ''[[gwenn]]'' ("maiden").<ref>{{HM|RC}}, p. 205</ref> Tolkien remarked that it also means "greatly blessed" in [[Welsh]].<ref>[[J.R.R. Tolkien]], "[[Letter to Mr Joukes|Letter to S.E.O. Joukes, 28 August 1967]]"</ref><br />
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The [[Quenya]] form of her name is not entirely certain, but in his Quenya greeting, Aragorn refers to her again as "Arwen" (''Arwen vanimelda, namárië!'').<ref name=Farewell></ref> This suggests that the form ''Arwen'' itself is also coincidentally a valid, or at least understandable, Quenya calque (using ''[[ar]]-'', stem ''Arwend-''). <br />
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==Other names==<br />
Her [[epessë]], '''''[[Undómiel]]''''', means "Evenstar", from ''[[Undómë]]'' ("evening twilight") and ''[[elen|el]]'' ("star").<br />
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She is also given the names ''Elrenniel'' and ''Elerondiel'', both meaning "Daughter of Elrond" in Sindarin and Quenya respectively.<ref>{{PE|Eldarin}}, p. 56</ref><br />
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== Genealogy ==<br />
Arwen was a very distant cousin of Aragorn. By their marriage, the long-sundered lines of the [[Half-elven]] were joined.<ref name="Numenor">{{App|A1i}}</ref> Their union also served to unite and preserve the bloodlines of the kings of the three kindreds of the High Elves as well as the only line with [[Maia]] blood through Arwen's great-great grandmother, [[Melian]].<br />
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{{familytree| FIN |y| EAW | | GLN | | TUO |y| IDR | | DIO |y| NIM | |FIN=[[Finarfin]]</br><small>''b. {{YT|1230}}''</small>|EAW=[[Eärwen]]</br><small>''b. {{YT}}''</small>|GLN=[[Galadhon]]</br><small>''b. {{FA}}''</small>|TUO=[[Tuor]]</br><small>''b. {{FA|472}}''</small>|IDR=[[Idril]]</br><small>''b. {{YT}}''</small>|DIO=[[Dior]]</br><small>''{{FA|470}} - {{FA|506|n}}''</small>|NIM=[[Nimloth of Doriath|Nimloth]]</br><small>''d. {{FA|506}}''</small>}}<br />
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{{familytree| | | | | | | ELL | | ELO | | ARW |~|y|~| ARA | | | | | | |ELL=[[Elladan]]</br><small>''b. {{TA|130}}''</small>|ELO=[[Elrohir]]</br><small>''b. {{TA|130}}''</small>|ARW='''ARWEN'''</br><small>''{{TA|241}} - {{FoA|121}}''</small>|ARA=[[Aragorn|Aragorn II]]</br><small>''{{TA|2931}} - {{FoA|120}}''</small>}}<br />
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{{familytree| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | EDN | | DAU | | | | | | | |EDN=[[Eldarion]]</br><small>''{{FoA|1}} - {{FoA|220|n}}''</small>|DAU=''unknown<br/>daughters''}}<br />
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==Other versions of the legendarium==<br />
While writing the drafts of ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]'' the character was named ''[[Finduilas]]''; only during the final proofreading in [[1949]] Tolkien changed the name to ''Arwen''.<ref>{{HM|RC}}, p. xxviii</ref><br />
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Tolkien considered to postpone the birth of Arwen from {{TA|241}} to {{TA|341}} , or even in {{TA|421}}<ref>{{NM|P1ix}}, p. 67.</ref>, to increase the interval between the birth of the twins and the birth of Arwen where the parents were at rest, and he assigned the error in dates to a "probable scribal origin" (with the inversion of numbers 241/421).<br />
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==Portrayal in adaptations==<br />
{{Gallery<br />
|title=Arwen in adaptations<br />
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|width=250<br />
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|File:The Lord of the Rings (film series) - Arwen 3.jpg|Arwen at the Ford of Bruinen in ''[[The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring]]''<br />
|File:The Lord of the Rings - The Fellowship of the Ring (video game) - Arwen.JPG|Arwen in [[The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (video game)|''The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring'' (video game)]]<br />
|File:The Lord of the Rings Online - Arwen.jpg|Arwen in ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online]]''<br />
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'''1978: [[The Lord of the Rings (1978 film)|''The Lord of the Rings'' (1978 film)]]:'''<br />
:Arwen does not appear.<br />
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'''1981: [[The Lord of the Rings (1981 radio series)|''The Lord of the Rings'' (1981 radio series)]]:'''<br />
:Arwen is voiced by [[Sonia Fraser]].<br />
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'''2002: [[The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (video game)|''The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring'' (video game)]]:'''<br />
:Arwen appears in Rivendell after the [[Council of Elrond]]. She has a brief dialogue with Aragorn, and recites several lines from the [[The Riddle of Strider|Riddle of Strider]]. No voice actress is specified, but it is likely [[Kath Soucie]]. <br />
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'''2001-03: [[The Lord of the Rings (film series)|''The Lord of the Rings'' (film series)]]:'''<br />
:Arwen is played by [[Liv Tyler]]. Various additional scenes pertaining to Arwen are inserted, some of which deviate from the books and some of which seem inspired by ''[[The Tale of Aragorn and Arwen]]''. <br />
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:In the first film, she rescues [[Frodo Baggins]] from the [[Nazgûl|Black Riders]] at [[Bruinen]], thwarting them with a sudden flood, summoned by an incantation. In the book, it was [[Glorfindel]] who put Frodo on horseback and sent him alone to flee the Black Riders, and Elrond and [[Gandalf]] arranged the flood. Also, in the book, Frodo defends himself against the Black Riders, whereas in the movie Arwen defends him. Arwen wields the sword [[Hadhafang]],a non-canonical sword that belonged to her father. <br />
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:There is a scene in which Aragorn has a dream about Arwen in which they kiss, a scene where Arwen has an argument with her father about leaving for [[Valinor]], and a scene where she actually departs for Valinor and then changes her mind and returns when she sees a vision of her future son, Eldarion. <br />
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:In addition, towards the end of the cinematic trilogy she apparently becomes sick with grief possibly over Aragorn's seemingly hopeless cause and his impending death. Elrond takes the reforged [[Narsil]], now [[Andúril]], to Aragorn at Dunharrow, and tells him that her fate has become bound with [[the One Ring]], and that she is dying. However, no explanation is ever given for these statements. Later, after the Ring is destroyed, Arwen is present at Aragorn's coronation without any signs of illness.<br />
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'''2003: [[Pán prsteňov (2001-2003 Slovak radio series)|''Pán prsteňov'' (2001-2003 Slovak radio series)]]:'''<br />
:The voice of Arwen is provided by Slávka Halčáková. She only appears in person in the third series (season) of the adaptation, during the events of ''The Return of the King'', but is alluded to earlier.<br />
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'''2007: ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online]]'':'''<br />
:Arwen can be found in a gazebo overlooking the path from [[Rivendell]] into the Misty Mountains. Her roles in the game was initially small, and her only significant interaction with the player was the passing of Elessar's banner that she made for [[Aragorn]] and bid the player to deliver to [[Halbarad]]. After the downfall of [[Sauron]], her prominence increases as [[Elrond]] and his household travel to [[Minas Tirith]] for her wedding. On their way towards [[Lothlórien]] from the lands of the [[Beornings]], Arwen asks her father to visit the cave in which her mother [[Celebrian]] was tormented by [[orcs]] before being rescued. She later discusses that experience with Lady [[Galadriel]].<br />
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'''2011: ''[[The Lord of the Rings: War in the North]]'':'''<br />
:Arwen resides in Rivendell, where players can discuss with her both historical and present subjects. While sporting the appearance of [[Liv Tyler]], her role is closer to the book than that in the movie: for example, she provides Halbarad and the Grey Company with the banner she had made for Aragorn, an event omitted from the movie adaptation. She is voiced by [[Courtenay Taylor]].<br />
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[[fi:Arwen]]</div>Pinkkatiehttps://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Index:Video_games_by_year&diff=349974Index:Video games by year2022-07-12T11:22:46Z<p>Pinkkatie: /* 2021 */</p>
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<div>Index of [[:Category:Video games|video games]] by year. Licensed games are marked in '''bold'''.<br />
===1979===<br />
* ''[[The Shire (video game)|The Shire]]''<br />
* ''[[Ringen]]''<br />
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===1981===<br />
* ''[[LORD (video game)|LORD]]''<br />
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===1982===<br />
* ''[[Shadowfax (video game)|Shadowfax]]''<br />
* ''[[Moria (computer game)|Moria]]''<br />
* '''''[[The Hobbit (1982 video game)|The Hobbit]]''''' (American Version: ''The Hobbit Software Adventure'')<br />
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===1983===<br />
* ''[[Ring of Doom (video game)|Ring of Doom / Ödesringen]]''<br />
* ''[[The Dungeons of Moria (video game)|The Dungeons of Moria]]''<br />
* ''[[Colossal Adventure]]''<br />
* ''[[Adventure Quest]]''<br />
* ''[[The Lord of the Rings: Journey to Rivendell]]''<br />
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===1984===<br />
* ''[[Dungeon Adventure]]''<br />
* ''[[Mario]]''<br />
* ''[[Der kleine Hobbit]]''<br />
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===1985===<br />
* ''[[Bored of the Rings (video game)|Bored of the Rings]]''<br />
* '''''[[Lord of the Rings: Game One]]'''''<br />
* ''[[The Mines of Moria (video game)|The Mines of Moria]]''<br />
* ''[[The Forest of Fear]]''<br />
<br />
===1986===<br />
* ''[[Lord of the Rings: Game One]]'' (American Version: ''[[The Fellowship of the Ring Software Adventure]]'')<br />
* ''[[The Boggit]]''<br />
* ''[[Thror's Ring]]''<br />
* ''[[The Ring of Doom (video game)|The Ring of Doom]]''<br />
* ''[[The Iron Prison]]''<br />
* ''[[Jewels of Darkness]]''<br />
* ''[[An Everyday Tale of a Seeker of Gold]]''<br />
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===1987===<br />
* ''[[Bulbo and the Lizard King]]''<br />
* ''[[Assault on Dolni Keep]]''<br />
* ''[[The Hunt for the Ring (video game)|The Hunt for the Ring]]''<br />
* ''[[Quest of Erebor (video game)|Quest of Erebor]]''<br />
* ''[[Return to Moria]]''<br />
* ''[[Haradwaith (video game)|Haradwaith]]''<br />
* ''[[Not Lord of the Rings]]'' (?)<br />
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===1988===<br />
* ''[[Fuddo and Slam]]''<br />
* '''''[[Shadows of Mordor]]''''' (American Version: ''Shadows of Mordor Software Adventure'')<br />
* ''[[Genesis]]''<br />
* ''[[The Bridge of Catzad-Dum]]''<br />
* ''[[War in Middle Earth]]''<br />
<br />
===1989===<br />
* ''[[Retarded Creatures and Caverns]]''<br />
* '''''[[Crack of Doom Software Adventure]]'''''<br />
* ''[[Bilbo (video game)|Bilbo]]''<br />
* ''[[The Tolkien Trilogy]]''<br />
* ''[[The Balrogian Trilogy]]''(?)<br />
* ''[[Belegost (video game)|Belegost]]''<br />
<br />
===1990===<br />
* '''''[[Middle-earth Play-By-Mail]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[The Lord of the Rings, Vol. I (1990 computer game)|The Lord of the Rings, Vol. I]]''''' ([[Interplay Productions|Interplay]])<br />
* '''''[[Riders of Rohan (video game)|Riders of Rohan]]'''''<br />
<br />
===1991===<br />
* ''[[Lord of the Rings (Mahjong)|Lord of the Rings]]''<br />
* [[VikingMUD]]<br />
* [http://www.tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Tolkien%27s_works_in_popular_media#NannyMUD NannyMUD]<br />
* ''[[Elendor]]''<br />
* ''[[Angband (game)|Angband]]''<br />
* ''[[El Señor de los Anillos, Parte I: La Communidad del Anillo (Libro 1)]]''<br />
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===1992===<br />
* [[MUME: Multi Users in Middle Earth]]<br />
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===1993===<br />
* '''''[[The Lord of the Rings, Vol. II: The Two Towers]]'''''<br />
* [[The Lord of the Rings MUSH]]<br />
* ''[[Morgul (video game)|Morgul]]''<br />
* ''[[Hobbit - The True Story]]''<br />
<br />
===1994===<br />
* '''[[J.R.R. Tolkien's The Lord of the Rings, Vol. I (SNES)|''The Lord of the Rings, Volume 1'']]'''<br />
* ''[[The Lord of the Rings & The Two Towers]]''<br />
* [[The Two Towers MUD]]<br />
<br />
===1995===<br />
* ''[[Middle-earth: The Riddles]]''<br />
* ''[[Lord of the Rings vol. 1]]''<br />
* ''[[Tolkien Trivia (video game)|Tolkien Trivia]]''<br />
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===1996===<br />
* ''[[Kingdom O' Magic]]''<br />
* [[Elendor Refugee MUX]]<br />
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===1997===<br />
* ''[[Bilbo Slider Puzzle]]''<br />
* ''[[Tolkien WordSearch]]''<br />
* ''[[Lord of the Rings: The Duel (video game)|Lord of the Rings: The Duel]]''<br />
* ''[[The Burning Eye]]''<br />
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===1998===<br />
* ''[[Mordor (1998 video game)|Mordor]]''<br />
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===1999===<br />
* [[Akallabeth MUSH]]<br />
* ''[[Return of the Shadow, or Arda, the Fourth Age]]''<br />
* ''[[Mines of Moria (video game)|Mines of Moria]]''<br />
* ''[[Mines of Moria II: The Escape Out]]''<br />
* ''[[Mines of Moria 3]]''<br />
<br />
===2000===<br />
* ''[[Manic Miner: The Hobbit]]''<br />
* ''[[Jet Set Willy: The Lord of the Rings]]''<br />
* ''[[EgoAdventure]]''<br />
* ''[[Quest For Mordor]]''<br />
<br />
===2002===<br />
* '''[[The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (video game)|''The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring'']]'''<br />
* '''''[[The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (video game)|The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers]]'''''<br />
<br />
===2003===<br />
* '''''[[The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (video game)|The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[The Hobbit (2003 video game)|The Hobbit]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[The Lord of the Rings: War of the Ring]]'''''<br />
<br />
===2004===<br />
* '''''[[The Lord of the Rings: The Third Age]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[The Lord of the Rings: The Battle for Middle-earth]]'''''<br />
<br />
===2005===<br />
* '''''[[The Lord of the Rings: Tactics]]'''''<br />
* ''[[The Lord of the Rings: Legends]]''<br />
<br />
===2006===<br />
* '''''[[The Lord of the Rings: The Battle for Middle-earth II]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[The Lord of the Rings: The Battle for Middle-earth II: The Rise of the Witch-king]]'''''<br />
<br />
===2007===<br />
* '''''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Shadows of Angmar]]'''''<br />
<br />
===2008===<br />
* '''''[[King Under the Mountain (minigame)|King Under the Mountain]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Mines of Moria]]'''''<br />
* ''[[Swig and Toss]]''<br />
<br />
===2009===<br />
* ''[[Eleventy-Seven Morsels]]''<br />
* '''''[[The Lord of the Rings: Conquest]]'''''<br />
* ''[[Midden-aarde MUD]]'' (unofficial version only)<br />
* '''''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Siege of Mirkwood]]'''''<br />
<br />
===2010===<br />
* '''''[[The Lord of the Rings: Aragorn's Quest]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[The Lord of the Rings: Middle-Earth Defense]]'''''<br />
<br />
===2011===<br />
* '''''[[The Lord of the Rings: War in the North]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Rise of Isengard]]'''''<br />
<br />
===2012===<br />
* '''''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Riders of Rohan]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[Guardians of Middle-earth]]'''''<br />
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* '''''[[The Hobbit: Kingdoms of Middle-earth]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[Lego The Lord of the Rings: The Video Game]]'''''<br />
<br />
===2013===<br />
* '''''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Helm's Deep]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[The Hobbit: Armies of The Third Age]]''''' <br />
* '''''[[The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey - A Journey through Middle-earth]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug - Orc Attack]]'''''<br />
<br />
===2014===<br />
* '''''[[Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[Lego The Hobbit: The Video Game]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[The Lord of the Rings: Legends of Middle-earth]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[The Hobbit: Battle of the Five Armies - Fight for Middle-earth]]'''''<br />
* ''[[ArdaCraft]]''<br />
<br />
===2017===<br />
* '''''[[Middle-earth: Shadow of War]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Mordor]]'''''<br />
<br />
===2019===<br />
* '''''[[The Lord of the Rings: Adventure Card Game ]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Minas Morgul]]'''''<br />
<br />
===2020===<br />
* '''''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: War of Three Peaks]]'''''<br />
===2021===<br />
* '''''[[The Lord of the Rings: Rise to War]]'''''<br />
* '''''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Fate of Gundabad]]'''''<br />
<br />
==Upcoming Video-Games==<br />
===2022===<br />
* '''''[[The Lord of the Rings: Gollum]]'''''<br />
<br />
===2023===<br />
* '''''[[The Lord of the Rings: Return to Moria]]'''''<br />
<br />
==Unknown year==<br />
* ''Carrion Fields''<br />
* ''Hairy Toes''<br />
* ''Nameless MUD''<br />
* ''RealmsMUD''<br />
* ''[[The Hobbit (action game)|The Hobbit]]''<br />
* ''The Tolkien Affair''<br />
* ''[[The Lord of the Rings MUSH II]]''<br />
<br />
== Cancelled Games ==<br />
<br />
* ''[[The Lord of the Rings: The White Council]]''<br />
* ''[[The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (video game)#Sequel|The Lord of the Rings: The Treason of Isengard]]''<br />
* ''[[Where Hobbits Dare]]''<br />
* ''[[The Lord of the Rings MUSH (cancelled)|The Lord of the Rings MUSH]]''<br />
* ''[[Orcs: Revenge of the Ancient]]''<br />
* ''[[The Trilogy]]''<br />
* ''[[Utumno (video game)|Utumno]]''<br />
* ''[[The 4th Age: The Lost Rings]]''<br />
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Events that occurred on {{PAGENAME}}.<br />
==On Earth==<br />
</noinclude><br />
* '''[[1955]]''' - [[J.R.R. Tolkien]] writes [[Letter 174]].<br />
* '''[[1958]]''' - [[C. S. Lewis]] writes a letter to [[J.R.R. Tolkien]].<br />
* '''[[1963]]''' - ''[[The Sunday Telegraph (10 November 1963)|Hobbits and Heroes]]'', which includes extracts of an interview with [[J.R.R. Tolkien]], is published in ''The Sunday Telegraph''.<br />
* '''[[1968]]''' - ''The Gathering of the Clouds'', the seventh episode of the [[The Hobbit (1968 radio series)|1968 radio series]] of ''[[The Hobbit]]'', is aired on [[BBC|BBC Radio]].<br />
* '''[[2003]]''' - ''[[Secret Fire: The Spiritual Vision of J.R.R. Tolkien]]'' is published.<br />
* '''[[2006]]''' - [[Ring*Con 2006]] in [[wikipedia:Fulda|Fulda]], [[wikipedia:Germany|Germany]].<br />
* '''[[2011]]''' - ''[[The Lord of the Rings: War in the North]]'' is released in France.<br />
* '''[[2021]]''' - ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Fate of Gundabad]]'' expansion is released.<br />
* '''[[2022]]''' - ''[[The_Fall_of_Númenor_(book)|The Fall of Númenor]]'' is published.<br />
<br />
==In Arda==<br />
* {{FA|495}}:<br />
** [[Tuor]], guided by [[Voronwë]], travels to [[Gondolin]] in order to deliver [[Ulmo]]'s message to [[Turgon]].<br />
* {{TA|2994}}:<br />
** [[Balin]], Lord of [[Moria]], is killed by an Orc archer as he stood to watch in [[Mirrormere]]. <br />
* {{TA|3018}}:<br />
** {{Cal Preparation-Company}}<noinclude><br />
[[Category:Dates|315]]<br />
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Events that occurred on {{PAGENAME}}.<br />
==On Earth==<br />
</noinclude><br />
<br />
* '''[[1784]]''' – [[George Tolkien]] is born.<br />
* '''[[1911]]''' – [[J.R.R. Tolkien]] signs a [[Oxford University visitor's page]].<br />
* '''[[1949]] – ''[[Farmer Giles of Ham]]'' is published.'''<br />
* '''[[1955]] – ''[[The Return of the King]]'' is published.'''<br />
* '''[[1958]]''' – [[J.R.R. Tolkien]] writes [[Letter to Misses E. Jones and J. Taylor|a letter to Misses E. Jones and J. Taylor]].<br />
* '''[[1958]]''' – Actor [[Viggo Mortensen]] is born.<br />
* '''[[1965]]''' – [[J.R.R. Tolkien]] writes [[Letter 278]].<br />
* '''[[1965]]''' – [[J.R.R. Tolkien]] writes [[Letter to Timothy J. Wheeler (20 October 1965)|a letter]] to [[Timothy J. Wheeler]].<br />
* '''[[1968]]''' – ''Strange Lodgings'', the fourth episode of the [[The Hobbit (1968 radio series)|1968 radio series]] of ''[[The Hobbit]]'', is aired on [[BBC|BBC Radio]].<br />
* '''[[1994]] – ''[[The War of the Jewels]]'' is published in the UK.'''<br />
* '''[[2005]]''' – [[George Sayer]], friend of [[J.R.R. Tolkien]], dies.<br />
* '''[[2020]]''' - ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: War of Three Peaks]]'' expansion is released.<br />
<br />
==In Arda==<br />
* {{FA|495}}:<br />
** [[Tuor]], guided by [[Voronwë]], travels to [[Gondolin]] in order to deliver [[Ulmo]]'s message to [[Turgon]].<br />
* {{TA|3018}}:<br />
** [[Glorfindel]], [[Aragorn|Strider]] and the [[Travellers|four hobbits]] reach the [[Ford of Bruinen]] where they are attacked by [[Nazgûl|Black Riders]]. [[Frodo Baggins|Frodo]] reaches the other riverside but the Riders are cast back by the water, their horses drown and their robes are destroyed. <br />
** {{Cal Travel-Boromir}}<noinclude>[[Category:Dates|294]]</noinclude><br />
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Events that occurred on {{PAGENAME}}.<br />
==On Earth==<br />
</noinclude><br />
* '''[[1918]]''' - Actor [[Alan Tilvern]] is born.<br />
* '''[[1956]]''' - [[J.R.R. Tolkien]] writes [[Letter to Mr Britten (5 November 1956)|a letter to Mr Britten]].<br />
* '''[[2003]]''' - "The Return of the King", the seventh set in ''[[The Lord of the Rings Trading Card Game]]'', is released.<br />
* '''[[2003]]''' - ''[[The Lord of the Rings: Weapons and Warfare]]'' is published.<br />
* '''[[2015]]''' - ''[[The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies: Chronicles: The Art of War]]'' is published.<br />
* '''[[2019]]''' - ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Minas Morgul]]'' expansion is released.<br />
<br />
==In Arda==<br />
* {{FA|495}}:<br />
** [[Tuor]], guided by [[Voronwë]], travels to [[Gondolin]] in order to deliver [[Ulmo]]'s message to [[Turgon]].<br />
* {{TA|3018}}:<br />
** {{Cal Preparation-Company}}<noinclude>[[Category:Dates|310]][[fi:5. marraskuuta]]</noinclude></div>Pinkkatiehttps://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=5_November&diff=3499695 November2022-07-12T11:12:23Z<p>Pinkkatie: /* On Earth */</p>
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Events that occurred on {{PAGENAME}}.<br />
==On Earth==<br />
</noinclude><br />
* '''[[1918]]''' - Actor [[Alan Tilvern]] is born.<br />
* '''[[1956]]''' - [[J.R.R. Tolkien]] writes [[Letter to Mr Britten (5 November 1956)|a letter to Mr Britten]].<br />
* '''[[2003]]''' - "The Return of the King", the seventh set in ''[[The Lord of the Rings Trading Card Game]]'', is released.<br />
* '''[[2003]]''' - ''[[The Lord of the Rings: Weapons and Warfare]]'' is published.<br />
* '''[[2015]]''' - ''[[The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies: Chronicles: The Art of War]]'' is published.<br />
* '''[[10`9]]''' - ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Minas Morgul]]'' expansion is released.<br />
<br />
==In Arda==<br />
* {{FA|495}}:<br />
** [[Tuor]], guided by [[Voronwë]], travels to [[Gondolin]] in order to deliver [[Ulmo]]'s message to [[Turgon]].<br />
* {{TA|3018}}:<br />
** {{Cal Preparation-Company}}<noinclude>[[Category:Dates|310]][[fi:5. marraskuuta]]</noinclude></div>Pinkkatiehttps://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=31_July&diff=34996731 July2022-07-12T11:10:46Z<p>Pinkkatie: /* On Earth */</p>
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Events that occurred on {{PAGENAME}}<br />
==On Earth==<br />
</noinclude><br />
* '''[[1924]]''' - Actor [[Garard Green]] is born.<br />
* '''[[1944]]''' - [[J.R.R. Tolkien]] writes [[Letter 77]].<br />
* '''[[1947]]''' - J.R.R. Tolkien writes [[Letter 109]].<br />
* '''[[1960]]''' - J.R.R. Tolkien writes [[Letter 223]].<br />
* '''[[1969]]''' - J.R.R. Tolkien writes [[Letter 311]], concerned with his health.<br />
* '''[[1982]]''' - The third episode of the new version of the [[The Lord of the Rings (1981 radio series)|1981 radio series]] of ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]'' is aired on [[BBC|BBC Radio 4]].<br />
* '''[[1988]]''' - [[Mythcon 19]] in [[wikipedia:Berkeley, California|Berkeley]], [[wikipedia:California|California]].<br />
* '''[[1989]]''' - [[Mythcon 20]] at [[wikipedia:University of British Columbia|University of British Columbia]], [[wikipedia:Vancouver|Vancouver]].<br />
* '''[[1993]]''' - [[Roland Adlerberth]] dies.<br />
* '''[[1993]]''' - [[Mythcon 24]] at [[wikipedia:University of Minnesota|University of Minnesota]], [[wikipedia:Minneapolis|Minneapolis]].<br />
* '''[[1999]]''' - [[Mythcon 30]] in [[wikipedia:Milwaukee|Milwaukee]], [[wikipedia:Wisconsin|Wisconsin]].<br />
* '''[[2001]]''' - Author [[Poul Anderson]] dies.<br />
* '''[[2004]]''' - [[The Lord of the Rings Symphony]] at Heinz Hall in [[wikipedia:Pittsburgh|Pittsburgh]], [[wikipedia:Pennsylvania|Pennsylvania]].<br />
* '''[[2004]]''' - [[Mythcon 35]] at [[wikipedia:University of Michigan|University of Michigan]] in [[wikipedia:Ann Arbor, Michigan|Ann Arbor]].<br />
* '''[[2011]]''' - ''[[Picturing Tolkien]]'' is published.<br />
* '''[[2015]]''' - [[Mythcon 46]] in Hotel Elegante, [[wikipedia:Colorado Springs, Colorado|Colorado Springs]].<br />
* '''[[2017]]''' - ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Mordor]]'' expansion is released.<br />
<br />
==In Arda==<br />
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Events that occurred on {{PAGENAME}}.<br />
==On Earth==<br />
</noinclude><br />
* '''[[1934]]''' - [[Father Christmas]] writes a letter to [[Christopher Tolkien]].<br />
* '''[[1962]]''' – [[C. S. Lewis]] writes a letter to [[J.R.R. Tolkien]].<br />
* '''[[1985]] – ''[[The Lays of Beleriand]]'' is published in the US.'''<br />
* '''[[2001]]''' – ''[[The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring - Original Motion Picture Soundtrack]] is released.<br />
* '''[[2007]]''' – ''[[The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King - The Complete Recordings]]'' is published.<br />
* '''[[2008]]''' – ''[[Tolkien, Race and Cultural History|Tolkien, Race and Cultural History: From Fairies to Hobbits]]'' is published.<br />
* '''[[2013]]''' - ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Helm's Deep]]'' expansion is released.<br />
<br />
==In Arda==<br />
* {{TA|3018}}:<br />
** {{Cal Preparation-Company}}<noinclude>[[Category:Dates|325]]</noinclude><br />
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Events that occurred on {{PAGENAME}}.<br />
==On Earth==<br />
</noinclude><br />
* '''1844''' - Philosopher and author [[Friedrich Nietzche]] is born.<br />
* '''[[1931]]''' - [[J.R.R. Tolkien]]'s poem "[[Progress in Bimble Town]]" is published in ''The Oxford Magazine''.<br />
* '''[[1937]]''' - [[J.R.R. Tolkien]] writes [[Letter 17]].<br />
* '''[[1959]]''' - [[J.R.R. Tolkien]] writes [[Letter 220]].<br />
* '''[[1963]]''' – While dining, [[J.R.R. Tolkien]] saves the life of an old lady who nearly choked on a whiting bone. <br />
* '''[[1999]]''' - Author [[Barbara Strachey]] dies in [[Oxford]].<br />
* '''[[2007]]''' - [[Ring*Con 2007]] in [[wikipedia:Fulda|Fulda]], [[wikipedia:Germany|Germany]].<br />
* '''[[2009]]''' - Mereth Aderthad XV, or "EstelCon", in [[wikipedia:Cardona, Spain|Cardona]], [[wikipedia:Spain|Spain]].<br />
* '''[[2012]]''' = ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Riders of Rohan]]'' expansion is released.<br />
<br />
==In Arda==<br />
* {{FA|495}}:<br />
** [[Tuor]], guided by [[Voronwë]], travels to [[Gondolin]] in order to deliver [[Ulmo]]'s message to [[Turgon]].<br />
* {{TA|3018}}:<br />
** {{Cal Travel-Frodo2}}<br />
** {{Cal Travel-Gandalf2}}<br />
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{{video game infobox<br />
| image=[[File:LOTRO - Riders of Rohan - logo.jpg|250px]]<br />
| name=''The Lord of the Rings Online: Riders of Rohan''<br />
| developer=[[Turbine|Turbine, Inc]]<br />
| publisher=[[Turbine|Turbine, Inc]]<br />[[Midway Games]]<br />
| platform=Microsoft Windows<br />
| releasedate=[[15 October]] [[2012]]<ref name="Turbine">{{webcite|author=|articleurl=http://www.lotro.com/news/pressreleases/1736-warner-bros-interactive-entertainment-and-turbine-unveil-the-lord-of-the-rings-online-riders-of-rohan|articlename=WARNER BROS. INTERACTIVE ENTERTAINMENT AND TURBINE UNVEIL THE LORD OF THE RINGS ONLINE™: RIDERS OF ROHAN™|dated=|website=www.lotro.com|accessed=30 January 2012}}</ref><br />
| genre=MMORPG<br />
|}}<br />
'''''The Lord of the Rings Online: Riders of Rohan''''' is the fourth expansion of ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online]]''. It includes three new regions and features mounted combat, as well as smaller additions like an increase of the level cap from 75 to 85. The game was released on October 15, [[2012]].<ref name="Turbine"/><br />
<br />
==Storyline==<br />
The game story focuses on the [[Rohirrim|Riders of Rohan]], the [[Breaking of the Fellowship]] and [[Éomer]]'s fight against the [[Orcs]] and [[Uruks]] who invade eastern [[Rohan]].<ref name="Turbine"/> The ''Riders of Rohan'' expansion continues the Epic Quest storyline with books 7, 8 and 9 of ''Allies of the King''. These books team the player with a motley crew consisting of an exiled Rohir, a [[Dunlendings|Dunlending]] woman and an [[Elf]] of [[Lothlorien]].<br />
<br />
==Regions==<br />
''Riders of Rohan'' adds one big zone and two smaller zones to the game world:<ref name="Update6&Riders"> {{webcite|author=Justin Olivetti|articleurl=http://www.engadget.com/2012-01-25-riding-into-rohan-lotro-maps-out-2012.html|articlename=Riding into Rohan: LotRO maps out in 2012|dated=25 January 2012|website=Engadget|accessed=25 August 2020}}</ref><br />
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* East Plains of [[Rohan]]<br />
* [[Amon Hen]]<br />
* [[Fangorn Forest|Eaves of Fangorn]]<br />
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==Mounted Combat==<br />
''Riders of Rohan'' allows players to fight from horseback for the first time. Early quests in [[The Wold]] of East Rohan give players access to a War-steed, a special breed of horse trained for combat. Players can learn special attacks and maneuvers for their War-steeds and their mounts level up with experience just as the players do. War-steeds can be ridden in most game regions but mounted combat options are only available in Rohan.<br />
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==Trailer==<br />
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Events that occurred on {{PAGENAME}}.<br />
==On Earth==<br />
</noinclude><br />
* '''[[1920]]''' - Voice actor [[William Conrad]] is born.<br />
* '''[[1936]]''' - [[J.R.R. Tolkien]] writes [[Letter to Aurelius Pompen|a letter to Professor A. Pompen]].<br />
* '''[[1980]]''' - [[Oxonmoot 1980]] at The Turf Tavern.<br />
* '''[[1981]]''' - [[Oxonmoot 1981]] at The Turf Tavern.<br />
* '''[[1985]]''' - [[Oxonmoot 1985]] at [[wikipedia:Oxford Town Hall|Oxford Town Hall]].<br />
* '''[[1987]]''' - [[Oxonmoot 1987]] at [[wikipedia:Oxford Town Hall|Oxford Town Hall]].<br />
* '''[[1996]]''' - ''[[Realms of Tolkien]]'' is published.<br />
* '''[[1998]]''' - [[Oxonmoot 1998]] at [[wikipedia:Exeter College, Oxford|Exeter College]].<br />
* '''[[2004]]''' - ''[[Parma Eldalamberon]]'' issue [[Parma Eldalamberon 15|15]] is published.<br />
* '''[[2008]]''' - [[Oxonmoot 2008]] at [[wikipedia:Christ Church, Oxford|Christ Church]].<br />
* '''[[2009]]''' - [[Oxonmoot 2009]] at [[wikipedia:Lady Margaret Hall, Oxford|Lady Margaret Hall]].<br />
* '''[[2011]]''' - ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Rise of Isengard]]'' expansion is released.<br />
<br />
==In Arda==<br />
* {{TA|3018}}:<br />
** [[Frodo Baggins|Frodo]] and his companions spend the second night with [[Tom Bombadil]] because of the rain. While discussing with him about [[the One Ring]], Frodo wears it for first time.<br />
** [[Gandalf]] crosses [[Greyflood]].<br />
** {{Cal Travel-Boromir}}<br />
** New moon<noinclude><ref>{{HM|RC}}, p. xlviii</ref><br />
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</noinclude><br />
* '''[[1897]]''' - Actor [[Cyril Ritchard]] is born.<br />
* '''[[1913]]''' - [[J.R.R. Tolkien]] is elected president of Stapledon Society, a student body at [[wikipedia:Exeter College, Oxford|Exeter College]].<br />
* '''[[1914]]''' - Tolkien's close friend at [[Oxford University|Oxford]], [[Geoffrey Bache Smith]], enters service with the Oxfordshire and Buckinghamshire Light Infantry. <br />
* '''[[1954]]''' - [[J.R.R. Tolkien]] starts writing [[Letter to Rayner Heppenstall (1-2 December 1954)|a letter to Rayner Heppenstall]].<br />
* '''[[1973]]''' - Actor [[Duncan McIntyre]] dies.<br />
* '''[[1975]]''' - ''[[An Extrapolation on The Silmarillion]]'' is published.<br />
* '''[[1976]]''' - Actor [[Dean O'Gorman]] is born.<br />
* '''[[1986]]''' - ''[[Evocation of Virgil in Tolkien's Art]]'' is published.<br />
* '''[[1995]]''' - ''[[J.R.R. Tolkien (Writers and Their Work)]]'' is published.<br />
* '''[[2003]]''' - ''[[Gollum: How We Made Movie Magic]]'' is published.<br />
* '''[[2003]]''' - ''[[Tolkien: A Cultural Phenomenon]]'' is published.<br />
* '''[[2003]] – ''[[The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King]]'' premières in Wellington, [[New Zealand]].'''<br />
* '''[[2007]]''' - ''[[Chesterton and Tolkien as Theologians]]'' is published.<br />
* '''[[2009]]''' - ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Siege of Mirkwood]]'' expansion is released in North America.<br />
* '''[[2009]]''' - ''[[Born of Hope]]'' is released online.<br />
* '''[[2010]]''' - ''[[Middle-earth and Beyond|Middle-earth and Beyond: Essays on the World of J.R.R. Tolkien]]'' is published.<br />
* '''[[2014]] - ''[[The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies]]'' premières in [[wikipedia:Leicester Square|Leicester Square]], London.'''<br />
* '''[[2016]]''' - ''[[A Well of Wonder|A Well of Wonder: C. S. Lewis, J. R. R. Tolkien, and The Inklings]]'' is published.<br />
* '''[[2017]]''' - ''[[Death and Immortality in Middle-earth]]'' is published.<br />
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* '''[[1916]]''' - The [[Battle of the Somme]] ends. Neither side wins. [[J.R.R. Tolkien]] is officially stricken off as a casualty by his Batallion.<br />
* '''[[1941]]''' - Actor [[David Hemmings]] is born.<br />
* '''[[1976]]''' - Voice actor [[Dominic Armato]] is born.<br />
* '''[[1980]] - ''[[Unfinished Tales]]'' is published in the USA.'''<br />
* '''[[2008]]''' - ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online]]: [[The Lord of the Rings Online: Daughter of Strife|Daughter of Strife]]'', patch is released.<br />
* '''[[2008]]''' - ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Mines of Moria]]'' expansion is released.<br />
* '''[[2015]]''' - ''[[The Tolkien Treasury]]'' is published.<br />
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* {{FA|495}}:<br />
** [[Tuor]] and [[Voronwë]] travel up the [[Dry River]] and approach [[Gondolin]]. <br />
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* '''[[1916]]''' - The [[Battle of the Somme]] ends. Neither side wins. [[J.R.R. Tolkien]] is officially stricken off as a casualty by his Batallion.<br />
* '''[[1941]]''' - Actor [[David Hemmings]] is born.<br />
* '''[[1976]]''' - Voice actor [[Dominic Armato]] is born.<br />
* '''[[1980]] - ''[[Unfinished Tales]]'' is published in the USA.'''<br />
* '''[[2008]]''' - ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online]]: [[The Lord of the Rings Online: Daughter of Strife|Daughter of Strife]]'', "" patch is released.<br />
* '''[[2008]]''' - ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Mines of Moria]]'' expansion is released.<br />
* '''[[2015]]''' - ''[[The Tolkien Treasury]]'' is published.<br />
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==In Arda==<br />
* {{FA|495}}:<br />
** [[Tuor]] and [[Voronwë]] travel up the [[Dry River]] and approach [[Gondolin]]. <br />
* {{TA|3018}}:<br />
** {{Cal Preparation-Company}}<noinclude>[[Category:Dates|323]][[fi:18. marraskuuta]]</noinclude></div>Pinkkatiehttps://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=The_Lord_of_the_Rings_Online:_Shadows_of_Angmar&diff=349911The Lord of the Rings Online: Shadows of Angmar2022-07-11T13:45:43Z<p>Pinkkatie: /* Epic story line */ wikify and other minor edits</p>
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{{video game infobox<br />
| image=[[Image:The Lord of the Rings Online- Shadows of Angmar box.jpg|250px]]<br />
| name=The Lord of the Rings Online:<br>Shadows of Angmar<br />
| developer=[[Turbine|Turbine, Inc]]<br />
| publisher=[[Turbine|Turbine, Inc]] (North America and Europe)<br />[[Midway Games]]<br />[[Codemasters]] (Europe, till 2010))<br/>[[IT Territory]] (Russia)<ref name="Korea and Russia">{{webcite|author=William Dobson|articleurl=http://www.engadget.com/2009-04-23-lord-of-the-rings-online-launches-in-korea-and-russia.html|articlename=Lord of the Rings Online launches in Korea and Russia|dated=23 April 2009|website=Engadget|accessed=23 August 2020}}</ref><br/>[[NHN Corporation]] (South Korea)<ref name="Korea and Russia"/><br>[[Sakura Internet]] (Japan, till 2009)<ref>{{webcite|author=Karl B.|articleurl=http://qj.net/turbine-eyes-japanese-market-for-lotro-distribution/|articlename=Turbine eyes Japanese market for LotRO distribution|dated=22 September 2006|website=qj.net|accessed=23 August 2020}}</ref><br />
| platform=Microsoft Windows<br />
| releasedate=[[24 April|April 24]], [[2007]]<br />
| genre=MMORPG<br />
|}}<br />
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'''''The Lord of the Rings Online: Shadows of Angmar''''' is a massively multiplayer online role-playing game (MMORPG) set in [[Middle-earth]] during the time of ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]''. It is the initial version of ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online]]'' (LOTRO or LotRO) and is referred to as volume I of the game.<br />
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The game's story line starts at the beginning of ''[[The Fellowship of the Ring]]'' Book I, Chapter III "[[Three is Company]]" and ends at the end of Book II, Chapter II "[[The Council of Elrond]]".<br />
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==Release==<br />
[[Turbine]] and [[Midway Games, Inc.]] officially launched ''The Lord of the Rings Online: Shadows of Angmar'' on April 24th, 2007 in North America for PC computers. [[Codemasters]] handles the European version of the game.<br />
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==Game Play==<br />
In ''Shadows of Angmar'', Turbine allows players to create customized characters ([[elves]], [[dwarves]], [[hobbits]], or [[men]]) to explore Middle-earth as a persistent 3D world environment, undertaking trivial and epic quests (the main story line), and battling against a wide variety of creatures and enemies in player-vs-environment. These are creatures and enemies found in the [[legendarium]]. Players can also craft equipment and consumable items (including the popular varieties of pipe-weed), as well as enjoy recreational activities such as player-generated music.<br />
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The game also has player-vs-player (PvP) combat with the [[free peoples]] fighting player controlled enemies (called "creeps). Once the player levels a free person to level 10 they can create an [[Orcs|orc]], [[uruk-hai]], [[warg]] or [[spider]] and fight against the free peoples. Player-vs-player is limited to the region of the [[Ettenmoors]].<br />
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==Cast==<br />
The majority of the dialog in the game is textually based, but there are some characters with spoken dialog. There are also some characters that will speak a line or two of the dialog, but the rest of the dialog will be text.<br />
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{| class="wikitable"<br />
|- bgcolor="#CCCCCC"<br />
! Role !! Actor<br />
|-<br />
| [[Gandalf]] || [[Harry Chase]]<br />
|-<br />
| Sandar / Chef Vraz / Warg Rider Goblin || [[Mike Vaughn]]<br />
|-<br />
| Additional Voices || [[Brian Talbot]]<br />
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| Additional Voices || [[Neil Kaplan]]<br />
|-<br />
|}<br />
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==Epic story line==<br />
The prologue and books one through eight were included with this title. The introduction for Dwarves, Elves, Hobbits and Men were also in ''Shadows of Angmar''. The introduction for Beornings was introduced in the update ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Gondor Aflame|Gondor Aflame]]'', for High Elves in the expansion ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Mordor|Mordor]]'', and for Stout-axes in the expansion ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Minas Morgul|Minas Morgul]]''. The story line continues in the patch ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Shores of Evendim|Shores of Evendim]]''.<br />
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:'''Introduction:'''<br />
There are five different introductions depending on the race of the player.<br />
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:::'''Beorning:'''<br />
::The player is spending idle time on the shores of the river [[Anduin]] with another [[Beorn]] named Sterkist, the player's brother. He reflects if there is more to life than spending it gazing at the river after chores are done. The voice of [[Radagast]] is heard coming from [[Grimbeorn|Grimbeorn's]] lodge. Sterkist wonders what brought the wizard to their home. He sends you to Varthmath to see if he knows the answer. If he knows, he's not telling the player. He instructs the player to mind their own business and bring the milk-cow back into her pen. After herding the cow, the player meets up with Ofolmóth who remarks that the player has grown soft. He challenges the player into a spar. After he's had enough, he tells you to hunt the sickle-files that plague the area. After defeating a number of them the player's sister Langhár draws your attention from a nearby field of clover. The two of you head back Grimbeorn's lodge. Along the way the player spots goblins. Langhár tells the player to warn the others at the entrance to the lodge. You find Sterkist and tell him about the goblins. It is unusual for them to venture this close to home since they fear the Beorn. You overhear Radagast talking to Grimbeorn saying that word of this unusual activity by the goblins needs to be relayed to other folk that can be trusted. Radagast wants him to send all of his kin, but Grimbeorn said he could only spare one, the player. Packing up some belongings, the player makes towards the mountains on horseback. <br />
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::After a long journey, the player arrives in [[Archet]]. The player asks Letty Foxtail if she knows where the Ranger [[Aragorn]] is at as he heard he was heading this way. She says that he did pass this way. She tells the player to seek out [[Jon Brackenbrook]] as he might know more. Jon states that he doesn't know where Aragorn went to. He informs the player that the town was attacked and nearly burned down by [[Blackwolds|Blackwold]] brigands. He says they have slain his father, the leader of Archet and that he is trying to rebuild the settlement. He requests the player's assistance. ''[The story continues in Prologue: Man and Beorning.]''<br />
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:::'''Hobbit and Man:'''<br />
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:::'''Dwarf and Elf:'''<br />
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:::'''High Elf:'''<br />
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:::'''Stout-axe:'''<br />
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:'''Prologue:'''<br />
There are four different prologues with the dwarf/stout-axe and elf/high elf prologue merging at one point. Although they are initially separated by race, a player of any race can do any of the prologues.<br />
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:::'''Dwarf and Stout-axe:'''<br />
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:::'''Elf and High Elf:'''<br />
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:::'''Dwarf, Stout-axe, Elf and High Elf:'''<br />
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:::'''Hobbit:'''<br />
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:::'''Man and Beorning:'''<br />
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:'''Book I - ''Stirrings in the Darkness'':'''<br />
After the prologue, the player is sent to [[Aragorn]], who needs your help to weaken the Blackwolds, a hostile gang within Breeland, secretly backed by agents of [[Angmar]]. After helping Aragorn and the [[Rangers of the North|Rangers]], they send you to [[Tom Bombadil]] to destroy the evil in Othrongroth, The Great Barrow of the [[Barrow-downs]]. Though the Wightlord Sambrog is defeated, the [[Witch-king]], Ivar and Skorgrim escape. Upon returning to [[Bree]], you discover Aragorn has left with the [[Hobbits]] and the player meets [[Gandalf]], who was too late to help. As he leaves for [[Rivendell]] too, he instructs you to find one of his fellow [[Istari]].<br />
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:'''Book II - ''The Red Maid'':'''<br />
[[Radagast|Radagast the Brown]] asks for your help in cleansing Garth Agarwen from the evil wights that inhabit it. Ultimately you and Radagast will fight Ivar the Bloodhand, their leader and a servant of the Witch-king. After succeeding, you are urgently sent to the North Downs to aid the Rangers there.<br />
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:'''Book III - ''The Council of the North'':'''<br />
You are asked by [[Halbarad]] to aid in the defence of the North Downs against Angmar's forces, by uniting the three main armies of the North Downs: the Men of Trestlebridge, the [[Dwarves]] led by [[Dori]] and [[Gildor]]'s Elves. After this, You are sent to Rivendell, where the [[Fellowship of the Ring|Fellowship]] has now safely arrived.<br />
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:'''Book IV - ''Chasing Shadows'':'''<br />
[[Nazgûl|The Black Rider]] that survived the Flood of [[Elrond]] is still in the [[Trollshaws]], making it impossible for the Fellowship to leave. With the help of [[Legolas]], [[Elladan]] and [[Elrohir]], you chase the Nazgûl, destroying the Trolls he has corrupted, and forcing the Ringwraith to retreat to the [[Misty Mountains]]. You are sent to pursue him, where [[Glóin]] and [[Gimli]] have set up camp.<br />
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:'''Book V - ''The Last Refuge'':'''<br />
Your search for the [[Nazgûl]] brings you to the final stronghold of Skorgrim and the Dourhands. An assault led by Gimli will result in the fall of Skorgrim and the Dourhands. But the Nazgûl has fled to Helegrod, where the ancient Dragon Thorog has been revived in order to serve the [[Sauron|Dark Lord]]. You arrive just in time to stop the Nazgûl, defeating him and making the Dragon harmless, for now. Now that Rivendell is safe, it is time to move on to [[Angmar]] itself.<br />
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:'''Book VI - ''Fires in the North'':'''<br />
Rangers, led by Corunir and Golodir, have gone to Angmar and their kinsmen want to know what has become of them. Upon entering Angmar, you find Corunir safe in a friendly Hillmen village. He begs you to find his lost company, who passed through Rammas Deluon: a great series of statues that weakens (or even kills) those who pass it. But after destroying the spirits within them, you are able to resist the power of Rammas Deluon, and find a dwarf settlement, where a part of the scattered party lives.<br />
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:'''Book VII - ''The Hidden Hope'':'''<br />
You are informed Golodir settled at Gath Forthnir, far in the North. When arriving there, Golodir is gone and the Rangers are led by his daughter, Lorniel. Lorniel reveals that Golodir has been captured by [[Mordirith]], Steward of Angmar, and has been locked away in [[Carn Dûm]]. As leader of the remaining Rangers, and with the help of Laerdan, Lorniel launches an assault on Carn Dûm, where she is slain by Mordirith, who then releases Golodir, to continue his torture. <br />
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:'''Book VIII - ''The Scourge of the North'':'''<br />
Golodir's grief for the death of his daughter has almost destroyed him, yet he sees a chance to avenge her. Reclaiming an ancient sword, he travels with you to the heart of [[Carn Dûm]], defeating Mordirith with the blade. Mordirith drops his ''[[palantír]]'', a great seeing stone, which is quickly taken by the mysterious Sara Oakheart.<br />
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:'''Book IX - ''Shores of Evendim'':'''<br />
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You learn Sara Oakheart is no less than [[Amarthiel]], the Champion of Angmar. She has set up a plot from Barad Gularan to use you to weaken Mordirith. Now she has the ''palantír'', she can communicate with Sauron and challenge Mordirith's position. You are sent to kill all of Mordirith's Knights, in an attempt to further weaken his power. But despite your victories over Mordirith, Amarthiel only grows stronger. After losing [[Fornost]] and Barad Gularan, she moves to [[Annúminas]], the ancient capital of [[Arnor]]. The Rangers there, led by Calenglad, need your aid.<br />
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:'''Book X - ''The City of Kings'':'''<br />
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A massive battle in Annúminas ensues, the wise [[Elves|Elf]] Laerdan offers his services to Calenglad. One of Amarthiel's captains is captured, but while in captivity, he angers Laerdan, making the Elf decide to fight Amarthiel on his own, in an attempt to make up for his mistakes in the past. Again the Free People have been tricked by Amarthiel and her servants. Together with the Rangers of Evendim, you are able to wrestle the ''palantír'' from Amarthiel's clutches, but Laerdan is lost. But within the ''palantír'', Amarthiel saw a glimpse of where Narchuil, her ancient ring, lies. She is now determined to possess its power once more.<br />
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:'''Book XI - ''Prisoner of the Free Peoples'':'''<br />
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Amarthiel's captain Mordrambor breaks free, killing many rangers. Soon he leads an army out of [[Annúminas]], to find Amarthiel's Ring, Narchuil. You attempt to find Narchuil before Amarthiel can, searching the ancient ruins of the [[Trollshaws]]. After much searching, it turns out Narmeleth, Laerdan's daughter, who originally caused Amarthiel's fall in Fornost, has become possessed by her. But all searching seems in vain, when it is revealed Amarthiel has already found Narchuil. However, Elrond does not fall for her trickery again, he realises Narchuil is still out there, and Laerdan knows where.<br />
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:'''Book XII - ''The Ashen Wastes'':'''<br />
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Amarthiel has Laerdan transported to Angmar, where she learns from him under torture where her Ring is. In a brave attempt to save both Laerdan and the ring Narchuil, you are able to get to them before Amarthiel does, despite losing another Ranger. But only half of the ring was found. Laerdan confesses to Elrond he has broken Narchuil in two, and where the other part should be. But then he swears an oath upon [[Varda|Elbereth]] that he will not rest before he has saved his daughter, and leaves the Council.<br />
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:'''Book XIII - ''Doom of the Last-King'':'''<br />
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Trying to find out more about the other half of Narchuil, you are sent to [[Forochel]]. However Amarthiel's forces have already arrived, and are already searching. In an attempt to find the ring before the Angmarim, the player receives help from [[Arvedui]]'s Ghost. In the final chapter, it seems Mordrambor has betrayed Amarthiel; the two start to battle and disappear from view. The player then retrieves the second half of Narchuil and returns it to Rivendell.<br />
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:'''Book XIV - ''The Ring-forges of Eregion'':'''<br />
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Still seeking to save Narmeleth, Laerdan travels with the two halves of Narchuil to [[Eregion]]. Amarthiel, baiting him in, reclaims Narchuil for herself. Elrond sends many Heralds of Rivendell to all corners of [[Eriador]] to help him in his search for the lost Ring-lore. But all efforts are too late, for Narchuil has been reforged when the Free People reach Eregion. It quickly becomes clear none are able to withstand Narchuil, until Mordrambor, Amarthiel's former servant, arrives. They go outside, where Mordirith arrives. Mordirith is in power once again, but Amarthiel does not surrender and believes she can defeat him with Narchuil. But Mordirith has the power of the Witch-king and defeats her. Mordrambor claims Narchuil as his own, and when he is about to finish Amarthiel, Laerdan appears. He now knows Mordirith is actually [[Eärnur]], the last King of [[Gondor]]. Mordirith orders Mordrambor to kill Laerdan, after which the two leave. Amarthiel is crying over her father, and set captive by the Free People.<br />
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:'''Book XV - ''Daughter of Strife'':'''<br />
With the death of her father, Narmeleth is once again freed from the evil influence of Amarthiel. Narmeleth becomes a captive of the Free Peoples and she sacrifices herself in order to help defeat Mordrambor and aid the Free Peoples. The book ends bittersweet with Narmeleth's redemption and her death.<br />
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'''Harry Chase''' is an American actor/narrator, known for the voice of [[wikipedia:Captain Morgan|''Captain Morgan'' rum commercials]]. He provided the voice of [[Gandalf]] in ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online]]''. <br />
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