Talk:Durin's Bane

Main image

The main image was changed months ago without discussion, but I propose to change it with this of the same artist, which is more detailed and is not already used. --LorenzoCB 11:55, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

I've just taken a look through the gallery and have to admit I prefer the previous image. --Mith (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 12:27, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

Agreed with your choice, both are nice pictures and I don't mind which one is picked. Gaetano 22:06, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

Gender?

In this article, Durin's Bane is referred to as both "it" and "he". Which is more correct? -- Ancalagon the Black 17:27, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

I'd say "he," since Durin's Bane is specifically referred to as a male by Gandalf in The Two Towers (Chapter 5 to be specific). --Holdwine Meriadoc (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 20:28, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

In The Fellowship of the Ring, The Bridge of Khazad-dûm, the Balrog is always referred to as "it". Some of that might come from its originally unknown nature, but even after Gimli identifies it as Durin's Bane, "it" is still used. But Holdwine Meriadoc is definitely right in that in Chapter 5 of The Two Towers (The White Rider), Gandalf always uses "he" when he gives his account of the encounter. I would go ahead and go with "he" here, which would make it consistent with the articles for Gothmog (balrog) and Lungorthin. --Grace18 02:58, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Makes sense. Thank you both! -- Ancalagon the Black 03:24, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

When came the Balrog to Moria?

In the article it is suggested, that this balrog escaped the battle at the end of the First Age and went to Moria. No references are given, and it doesn't make sense. Durin had discovered Moria during the First Age and there was no disturbance until Sauron came in the Second Age. So I don't see any possibility for this balrog to sneak in. I would rather suggest, that Melkor put him there himself, when he raised the Misty Mountains in the Days of the Trees, before the Elves came. Durin was laid under Mount Gundabad by Aule even before. --172.69.22.226 01:18, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for bringing that up. I agree with you, if we can't find a source for that statement then it should be removed. Feel free to remove/rephrase as you see fit. If you have any questions just let me know. We appreciate your help! --Hyarion 02:07, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

"The Balrog is a survivor from the Silmarillion and the legends of the First Age. So is Shelob. The Balrogs, of whom the whips were the chief weapons, were primeval spirits of destroying fire, chief servants of the primeval Dark Power of the First Age. They were supposed to have been all destroyed in the overthrow of Thangorodrim, his fortress in the North. But it is here found (there is usually a hang-over especially of evil from one age to another) that one had escaped and taken refuge under the mountains of Hithaeglin (the Misty Mountains)."

― Letter 144

- IvarTheBoneless 01:20, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

Ivar saves the day! I've updated the article. Thank you! --Hyarion 01:29, 27 July 2022 (UTC)