Talk:Eriol: Difference between revisions

From Tolkien Gateway
Latest comment: 10 February 2022 by IvarTheBoneless in topic Misleading link
(→‎Misleading link: new section)
No edit summary
Line 9: Line 9:


== Misleading link ==
== Misleading link ==
IMHO this page should compleatly re-written and become more like a disambiguation page for the article [[Ælfwine]] and a new article[[Ottor Wǽfre]], since Eriol is the name given to both and most links to this page actually do mean Ælfwine, who is the "actual Eriol" of the [[Book of Lost Tales]], not the earlyer conception.
IMHO this page should compleatly re-written and become more like a disambiguation page for the article [[Ælfwine]] and a new article[[Ottor Wǽfre]], since Eriol is the name given to both and most links to this page actually do mean Ælfwine, who is the "actual Eriol" of the [[Book of Lost Tales]], not the earlyer conception.
The new article [[Ottor Wǽfre]] could take over the entire content of the article [[Eriol]], while the disambiguation page could loock that way:<br />
The new article [[Ottor Wǽfre]] could take over the entire content of the article [[Eriol]], while the disambiguation page could loock that way:<br />
Line 16: Line 15:
* [[Ælfwine]], the son of [[Éadwine]], an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Saxons Anglo-Saxon] during the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10th_century 10th century].
* [[Ælfwine]], the son of [[Éadwine]], an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Saxons Anglo-Saxon] during the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10th_century 10th century].
* [[Ottor Wǽfre]], the son of [[Eoh]], an [[wikipedia:Angles|Angle]] during the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4th_century 4th] or [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5th_century 5th century].
* [[Ottor Wǽfre]], the son of [[Eoh]], an [[wikipedia:Angles|Angle]] during the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4th_century 4th] or [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5th_century 5th century].
:I agree with this person (mostly) - the current Eriol article is really about Ottor, so it should be named as such, otherwise it just creates more confusion about an already really complex topic. However, I don't agree that the new Eriol article should merely be a disambiguation page. [[User:IvarTheBoneless|IvarTheBoneless]] 00:27, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

Revision as of 00:27, 10 February 2022

Discussion on Eriol/Aelfwine at lotrplaza.--Morgan 13:09, 13 June 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Looks like a good external link, feel free to add anything to this article. Just made it in a short time, so it's everything except complete.
Also, should we make a category for characters from TBLOT, or for HoME in general? --Amroth 13:28, 13 June 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The question on how to categorize is difficult, I don't have any anwer at the moment. The basic problem is that characters (or other concepts) which don't belong in the legendarium end up in subcategories under Category:Eä, which is wrong.--Morgan 13:37, 13 June 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yes. I placed it in Category:Noncanon Men|Noncanon Men[former link], but I'm not sure if that was the best option. Since that page only includes characters from adaptations and was specificaly made for men from adaptations. --Amroth 13:59, 13 June 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Misleading link

IMHO this page should compleatly re-written and become more like a disambiguation page for the article Ælfwine and a new articleOttor Wǽfre, since Eriol is the name given to both and most links to this page actually do mean Ælfwine, who is the "actual Eriol" of the Book of Lost Tales, not the earlyer conception. The new article Ottor Wǽfre could take over the entire content of the article Eriol, while the disambiguation page could loock that way:

Eriol (Q.: One Who Dreams Alone) is the name of the first Man to find the Straight Road. The figure is non-canonical and can refer to:

I agree with this person (mostly) - the current Eriol article is really about Ottor, so it should be named as such, otherwise it just creates more confusion about an already really complex topic. However, I don't agree that the new Eriol article should merely be a disambiguation page. IvarTheBoneless 00:27, 10 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]