https://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mordor&feed=atom&action=historyTalk:Mordor - Revision history2024-03-28T08:26:23ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.39.3https://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mordor&diff=171775&oldid=prevMorgan: /* The Dwarven name for Mordor */2011-09-28T09:59:09Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">The Dwarven name for Mordor</span></span></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>User Dwarf Lord added the Khuzdul name for Mordor to the article and User 78.70.27.129 took it out, saying that a reference was needed. Earlier Dwarf Lord created a new article for the word, which is ''Nargûn'', and I added the missing reference (see [[Nargûn]]). It comes from ''The Return of the Shadow''. Is it OK to include this information with the reference or is it not canonical enough for inclusion? --[[User:Gamling|Gamling]] 06:17, 28 September, 2011 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>User Dwarf Lord added the Khuzdul name for Mordor to the article and User 78.70.27.129 took it out, saying that a reference was needed. Earlier Dwarf Lord created a new article for the word, which is ''Nargûn'', and I added the missing reference (see [[Nargûn]]). It comes from ''The Return of the Shadow''. Is it OK to include this information with the reference or is it not canonical enough for inclusion? --[[User:Gamling|Gamling]] 06:17, 28 September, 2011 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
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</table>Morganhttps://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mordor&diff=171770&oldid=prevGamling at 06:19, 28 September 20112011-09-28T06:19:11Z<p></p>
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</table>Gamlinghttps://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mordor&diff=56993&oldid=prevHyarion: /* Etymology */ Added reply2008-02-06T22:02:58Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Etymology: </span> Added reply</span></p>
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</table>Hyarionhttps://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mordor&diff=56986&oldid=prevEderchil: etymology mess2008-02-06T21:34:51Z<p>etymology mess</p>
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</table>Ederchilhttps://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mordor&diff=50763&oldid=prevHyarion: Updated reply2007-09-24T15:14:13Z<p>Updated reply</p>
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</table>Hyarionhttps://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mordor&diff=50762&oldid=prevHyarion: Added reply2007-09-24T14:47:48Z<p>Added reply</p>
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</table>Hyarionhttps://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mordor&diff=50756&oldid=prevTar-Telperien at 11:16, 24 September 20072007-09-24T11:16:47Z<p></p>
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</table>Tar-Telperienhttps://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mordor&diff=50755&oldid=prevEarendilyon: Images of Mordor?2007-09-24T09:28:37Z<p>Images of Mordor?</p>
<p><b>New page</b></p><div>[[User:Tar-Telperien|Tar-Telperien]] asked ''there are no images of Mordor on this wiki!?'' But of course there are! See for example in the [[:Category:Images of Mordor]] to view some of them! ~ [[User:Earendilyon|Earendilyon]] 05:28, 24 September 2007 (EDT)</div>Earendilyon