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The map is non canon. No river flows into the bay of Umbar near the City of the Corsairs fromthe south-east in the canonical maps. This fan Made Map seems to be based on a map that was made for the Peter Jackson films. --Akhorahil 08:01, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Images used here are generally non-canon and fanart. Even Tolkien's own pictures or maps sometimes aren't 100% canonical. If there isn't a more accurate map, this one can do. Sage 09:30, 22 January 2021 (UTC)


As far as I remember, the period of the ship Kings was not immediately "followed" by a loss of territory, invasions, the Kin-strife and the great plague, but by a period of stagnation. --Akhorahil 08:01, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

I think "followed" doesn't always mean immediately followed, but perhaps a better wording can be used. Sage 09:30, 22 January 2021 (UTC)