Talk:The Hobbit 1st edition

Whose Standard Are We Following?

This page has absolutely no citations. I am confused. For instance, this article says: Elves are either "silly and mischievous (Rivendell) or hostile (Mirkwood)." Is this a criticism scholars have leveled against The Hobbit? If so, it is not mentioned. I do not know how the Elves are mischievous, but as for Elves who are "silly", we get that from Legolas in The Lord of the Rings, and as for "hostile"—Eöl, Thingol, Curufin, Celegorm, Fëanor—need I go on?

SingingOrc (talk) SingingOrc (talk) 17:56, 26 June 2023 (UTC)

Yeah, this article needs a lot of work (hence the disclaimer at the top). I'm not against removing that entire section as it seems to be referring to The Hobbit in general and not the 1st edition specifically. Thanks for your help! Hyarion (talk) 02:56, 27 June 2023 (UTC)

Fair. I would also like a citation for "In the world of Lord of the Rings matches had not yet been invented and all use flints." And I actually just do not know in what sense goblins "are more like bogeymen than man-eating humanoid warriors". It is aluded that they eat people in The Hobbit and they are presumptively warriors in the Battle of Five Armies. Also Sam Gamgee has an English first and last name.

So… all in favor of simply removing that list? SingingOrc (talk) 13:17, 27 June 2023 (UTC)