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{{quote|Nai Eru manyuva molienya ar tératuvas!|[[Aulë]] in ''[[Quenta Silmarillion]]'', "[[Of Aulë and Yavanna]]"}}
{{quote|Nai Eru manyuva tanwenya ar tératuvas!|[[Aulë]] in ''[[Quenta Silmarillion]]'', "[[Of Aulë and Yavanna]]"}}
Tolkien Gateway already helped me a lot, so I want to help making it bigger and wholesome. I'm from Spain, but I have most of the bibliography both in Spanish and English, and I enjoy checking both languages. My English is still on work, so I appreciate all the corrections, specially with the long texts.
I'm a fan from Spain, a member of the [[Spanish Tolkien Society]], active in the Languages Commission. My English is still on work, so I appreciate any correction, specially with the long texts.


My favourite character is [[Finrod Felagund]], but I think [[Tom Bombadil]] is the most important character in all the [[Legendarium]]. I believe the Eldar had [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVnksxk5gyE Baroque dances].
Among my favourite characters are [[Aulë]], [[Finrod Felagund]], [[Galadriel]] and [[Tar-Palantir]].


As a converted Catholic, I like to study about Tolkien's spirituality and theology. I also love Quenya and when I have time I "translate" the works of [[User:LorenzoCB/Quentandil‎|Riener Quentandil]], but currently I'm working on too many projects. Tolkien taught me I should finish things, but I can't help beginning things when new ideas come.
As a converted Catholic, I like to study about Tolkien's theology and Christian implications. I also love Quenya and when I have time I "translate" the works of '''[[User:LorenzoCB/Quentandil‎|Riener Quentandil]]''', but currently I'm working on too many projects. Tolkien taught me I should finish things, but I can't help beginning things when new ideas come. I also translate back to (Neo-)Quenya, being the [http://lambendili.sociedadtolkien.org/publicaciones/lambendili/ ''Valaquenta'' in Neo-Quenya] my most completed work.  


Occasionally I edit videos, like the [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKsGOtoME9A&t Namárië].
Beyond Tolkien, some of my interests are: Arthurian mythology, Hinduism, Sanskrit, lifes of saints, the ''Dune'' saga, ''Berserk'', the ''Aeneid'', ''Journey to the West'', everything related to C.S. Lewis, some works by Jodorowsky, books by Christian mystic women, devotion to the Most Sacred Heart of Jesus, recording and listening to audiobooks, hiking, cooking biscuits, Dungeon Synth...


==Articles I feel proud of==
==Articles I feel proud of==
*[[Dagor Dagorath]]
*[[Dagor Dagorath]]
*Finishing all the ''[[The Children of Húrin]]'' chapter synopsis
* All versions of the ''[[Ainulindalë (disambiguation)|Ainulindalë]]''
* All versions of the ''[[Ainulindalë (disambiguation)|Ainulindalë]]''
* All articles of the [[Twelve Houses of the Gondothlim]] and their lords, specially [[Turgon]] and [[Glorfindel]]
*[[Gondolin]]
* All articles of the [[twelve houses of the Gondothlim]] and their lords, specially [[Turgon]] and [[Glorfindel]]
*[[Christianity]]
*[[Christianity]]
*[[Index:Conflicts]]
*[[Orcs/Origin]]
*[[Galadriel]]


:<big>'''[[User:LorenzoCB/Sandbox|Personal Sandbox]]'''</big>
*[[User:LorenzoCB/Ingolonde Project|Ingolonde Project]]
*[[User:LorenzoCB/Ingolonde Project|Ingolonde Project]]
*[[User:LorenzoCB/Quentandil‎|Riener Quentandil]]
*[[User:LorenzoCB/Quentandil‎|Riener Quentandil]]
*[[:Category:Images by Lorenzo Carrera|My images]]
==To-do==
:<big>'''[[User:LorenzoCB/Sandbox|Personal Sandbox]]'''</big>
*<big>[[Tolkien Gateway:Task list]]</big>
*[[:Category:Candidates for speedy deletion]]
*''[[The Notion Club Papers]]'' synopsis
** [[Foreword and List of Members]]
** [[The Notion Club Papers Part One|''The Notion Club Papers'' Part One]]
** [[The Notion Club Papers Part Two|''The Notion Club Papers'' Part Two]]
** [[Major Divergences in Earlier Versions of Part Two|Major Divergences in Earlier Versions]]
**[[Lowdham's Report on the Adunaic Language]]
*Articles related to the [[Amazon series]]
*Finish [[Christianity]] article
*All articles about the [[Valar]], specially their OVOTL sections
*The matter of ''[[The Book of Lost Tales]]''
**Proper article for the general topic
**Synopsis of every chapter
**Articles for topics exclusive from TBOLT
**Expand all OVOTL sections that should deal with TBOLT
**[[Qenya]] and [[Gnomish]]
*Inspiration sections of important articles
*An index with all "mistakes" that Christopher acknowledged throughout ''[[The History of Middle-earth]]''
*An article on [[Heraldry]]
==Headcanons==
*[[Tom Bombadil]] is an extraliterary character from the tales Tolkien told to his children. Tolkien refused to remove him from his revision of ''TLOTR'' to remember us that we are reading a fairy-tale. That's why both readers and Middle-earth characters do not know where he comes from.
*[[Orcs]] were [[Orcs/Origin#Souless animals|talking beasts without soul]]. Therefore they were good creatures in their beginning, as they were directly created by Ilúvatar, but later their wills were corrupted by Morgoth. Therefore they were inclined to evil forever, unless a charitative Vala or Eru himself came to free them. If so, they could have become proper [[Incarnates]] like the [[Ents]], but they were exterminated before that happened or at least they could become civilized.
*[[Aredhel]] and [[Eöl]] are one of those few cases in which the Eldar falled into lust, as said in ''[[Laws and Customs among the Eldar]]''.
*The [[Half-elves]]'s choice was determined by their marriage, which is the union of [[hröa|hröar]]. Once they married an Elf or a Mortal, they became of that race forever. The same way, the union of the hröar in the [[Unions of Elves and Men]] demanded an ultimate choice of nature.
*The [[Ancalagon#Other versions of the legendarium|prophecy]] of [[Andreth]] is refered to the [[War of Wrath]] and was true: in his last conception, Tolkien intended that [[Túrin]] was temporarily brought back from [[Halls of Mandos|Mandos]], just like [[Beren]]. Then Túrin jumped into [[Vingilot]], and travelled with his relative [[Eärendil]] to Middle-earth. In the flying boat, Túrin slayed [[Ancalagon]], accomplishing the decisive victory against Morgoth and thus having the last word in his family's curse. Then he was finally free and leaved the Circles of the World. I was never convinced that a boat could destroy the biggest [[dragon]] in the world, but if there is a dragonslayer in it, now that's epic.
*The [[Valar]] were informed about [[Eru]]'s [[Old Hope|Incarnation]], so the first [[Christmas]] feast in the world was hold in Valinor.
*We are living in the Seventh [[Age]], which began with the Death and Resurrection of Our Lord Jesus Christ. The last and Eighth Age will begin when He returns and it will last forever as an neverending Sunday.
*The [[Dagor Dagorath]] is canon in the sense that it was meant to be included in ''The Silmarillion'', but even in the legendarium it is not suppouse to happen literally, as it comes from an artificial mix between Elven and Mannish traditions. There will be an actual battle between Good and Evil, but the breaking and healing of Arda will be acomplished by Eru himself.
*Everything is [[canon]]; we should talk about "corpus" instead. The [[Global Theory]] is true. At the same time, Christopher Tolkien's edition of ''[[The Silmarillion]]'' is the least canonical work.
*The [[Eldar]] had [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVnksxk5gyE Baroque dances].


==Favourite Tolkien related works==
==Favourite Tolkien related works==
* ''[[The Fall of Gondolin (chapter)|The Fall of Gondolin]]'' (the Lost Tale)
*Tolkien's texts
* ''[[Athrabeth Finrod ah Andreth]]''
** ''[[Valaquenta]]''
* ''[[A Description of the Island of Númenor]]''
** ''[[The Fall of Gondolin (chapter)|The Fall of Gondolin]]'' (the Lost Tale)
* ''[[Arda Reconstructed: The Creation of the Published Silmarillion]]'', by [[Douglas C. Kane]]
** ''[[Quenta Noldorinwa]]''
* ''[[Splintered Light]]'' by [[Verlyn Flieger]]
** ''[[Athrabeth Finrod ah Andreth]]''
* ''[[The Flame Imperishable: Tolkien, St. Thomas, and the Metaphysics of Faerie]]'', by Jonathan S. McIntosh
** ''[[A Description of the Island of Númenor]]''
* ''[[In Elven Lands]]'', by [[The Fellowship (band)]]
*On Tolkien
* ''Aeneid'', by Virgil
** ''[[Arda Reconstructed: The Creation of the Published Silmarillion]]'', by [[Douglas C. Kane]]
* ''[[Kalevala]]'', by [[Elias Lönnrot]]
** ''[[Splintered Light]]'' by [[Verlyn Flieger]]
** ''[[The Flame Imperishable: Tolkien, St. Thomas, and the Metaphysics of Faerie]]'', by Jonathan S. McIntosh
*Tolkien's influences
** All the Matter of Britain
** ''Aeneid'', by Virgil
** ''[[Kalevala]]'', by [[Elias Lönnrot]]
*Music artists
**[[The Fellowship (band)]]
** [http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCX4WZErPVapopqbisADEV_Q Adele McAllister]
** [http://thangorodrimsynth.bandcamp.com/music Thangorodrim]


==My library==
==My library==
===By the Tolkiens===
===By the Tolkiens===
[[File:LorenzoCB - My biblioteca.jpeg|200px|thumb|A part of my Tolkien library]]
*''[[The Hobbit]]'' / ''El Hobbit''
*''[[The Hobbit]]'' / ''El Hobbit''
*''[[The Lord of the Rings]]'' / ''El Señor de los Anillos''
*''[[The Lord of the Rings]]'' (50th anniversary edition) / ''El Señor de los Anillos''
*''[[Tree and Leaf|Árbol y Hoja]]''
*''[[Tree and Leaf|Árbol y Hoja]]''
*''[[The Tolkien Reader]]''
*''[[Sir Gawain and the Green Knight, Pearl and Sir Orfeo]]''
*''[[Sir Gawain and the Green Knight, Pearl and Sir Orfeo]]''
*''[[The Silmarillion]]'' / ''El Silmarillion''
*''[[The Silmarillion]]'' / ''El Silmarillion''
*''[[Pictures by J.R.R. Tolkien]]''
*''[[Unfinished Tales]]'' / ''Cuentos Inconclusos''
*''[[Unfinished Tales]]'' / ''Cuentos Inconclusos''
*''[[Finn and Hengest]]''
*''[[The Monsters and the Critics and Other Essays|Los Monstruos y los Críticos y otros ensayos]]''
*''[[The Monsters and the Critics and Other Essays|Los Monstruos y los Críticos y otros ensayos]]''
*''[[The History of Middle-earth]]'', volumes I-V and X-XII / ''La Historia de la Tierra Media'', volumes 1-9
*''[[The History of Middle-earth|The Complete History of Middle-earth]] I'': Volumes I-V / ''La Historia de la Tierra Media'', volumes 1-5
*''[[The History of The Lord of the Rings|La Historia de El Señor de los Anillos]]'', volumes 1-4
*''The Complete History of Middle-earth II'': Volumes VI-VIII / ''[[The History of The Lord of the Rings|La Historia de El Señor de los Anillos]]'', volumes 1-4 + ''La Historia de la Tierra Media'', volume 6
*''The Complete History of Middle-earth III'': Volumes IX-XII / ''La Historia de la Tierra Media'', volumes 7-9
*''[[The History of Middle-earth Index]]''
*''[[Tales from the Perilous Realm|Cuentos desde el Reino Peligroso]]''
*''[[The Children of Húrin|Los Hijos de Húrin]]''
*''[[The Children of Húrin|Los Hijos de Húrin]]''
*''[[The Legend of Sigurd and Gudrún|La Leyenda de Sigurd y Gudrún]]''
*''[[The Legend of Sigurd and Gudrún|La Leyenda de Sigurd y Gudrún]]''
*''[[The Fall of Arthur|La Caída de Arturo]]''
*''[[The Fall of Arthur|La Caída de Arturo]]''
*''[[Beowulf: A Translation and Commentary|Beowulf: Traducción y comentario]]''
*''[[Beowulf: A Translation and Commentary|Beowulf: Traducción y comentario]]''
*''[[Beren and Lúthien|Beren y Lúthien]]''
*''[[The Fall of Gondolin|La Caída de Gondolin]]''
*''[[The Tolkien Reader]]''
*''[[Tales from the Perilous Realm|Cuentos desde el Reino Peligroso]]''
*''[[Bilbo's Last Song|La última canción de Bilbo]]''


===By other authors===
===By other editors and authors ===
*''[[The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien]]'' / ''Cartas de J.R.R. Tolkien'', by [[Humphrey Carpenter]]
[[File:LorenzoCB - My biblioteca 2.jpeg|200px|thumb|Another part of my Tolkien library]]
*[[Vinyar Tengwar|The Collected ''Vinyar Tengwar'']], volumes 1-5 (issues [[Vinyar Tengwar 1|1]]-[[Vinyar Tengwar 50|50]]), edited by [[Carl F. Hostetter]]
*''[[The Nature of Middle-earth]]'' / ''La Naturaleza de la Tierra Media'', edited by Carl F. Hostetter
*''[[Parma Eldalamberon]]'', issues [[Parma Eldalamberon 11|11]]-[[Parma Eldalamberon 17|17]], edited by [[Christopher Gilson]]
*''[[A Secret Vice (book)|A Secret Vice]]'', edited by [[Dimitra Fimi]] and [[Andrew Higgins]]
*''[[J.R.R. Tolkien: Artist and Illustrator|J.R.R. Tolkien: Artista e Ilustrador]]'', by [[Wayne G. Hammond]] and [[Christina Scull]]
*''[[The Art of The Hobbit|El Arte de El Hobbit]]'', by Wayne G. Hammond and Christina Scull
*''[[The Art of The Lord of the Rings|El Arte de El Señor de los Anillos]]'', by Wayne G. Hammond and Christina Scull
*''[[The History of The Hobbit]]'', edited by [[John D. Rateliff]]
*''[[Finn and Hengest]]'', edited by [[Alan Bliss]]
*''[[The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien]]'' / ''Cartas de J.R.R. Tolkien'', edited by [[Humphrey Carpenter]]
 
*''[[J.R.R. Tolkien: A Biography]]'' / ''J.R.R. Tolkien: Una biografía'', by Humphrey Carpenter
*''[[J.R.R. Tolkien: A Biography]]'' / ''J.R.R. Tolkien: Una biografía'', by Humphrey Carpenter
*''[[The Inklings (book)|The Inklings]]'', by Humphrey Carpenter
*''[[The Inklings (book)|The Inklings]]'', by Humphrey Carpenter
*''[[J.R.R. Tolkien: Artist and Illustrator|J.R.R. Tolkien: Artista e Ilustrador]]'', by [[Wayne G. Hammond]] and [[Christina Scull]]
*''[[The Lord of the Rings: A Reader's Companion]]'', by Wayne G. Hammond and Christina Scull
*''[[The Art of The Lord of the Rings|El Arte de El Señor de los Anillos]]'', by Wayne G. Hammond and Christina Scull
*''[[The J.R.R. Tolkien Companion and Guide]]'' (revised edition), by Wayne G. Hammond and Christina Scull
*''[[The J.R.R. Tolkien Companion and Guide]]'' (revised edition), by Wayne G. Hammond and Christina Scull
*''[[Tolkien and the Great War|Tolkien y la Gran Guerra]]'', by [[John Garth]]
*''[[Tolkien and the Great War|Tolkien y la Gran Guerra]]'', by [[John Garth]]
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*''[[Tolkien: A Celebration|Tolkien, Señor de la Tierra Media]]'', edited by Joseph Pearce
*''[[Tolkien: A Celebration|Tolkien, Señor de la Tierra Media]]'', edited by Joseph Pearce
*''[[Arda Reconstructed: The Creation of the Published Silmarillion]]'', by [[Douglas C. Kane]]
*''[[Arda Reconstructed: The Creation of the Published Silmarillion]]'', by [[Douglas C. Kane]]
*''[[Splintered Light]]'' by [[Verlyn Flieger]]
*''[[Tolkien and The Silmarillion]]'', by [[Clyde S. Kilby]]
*''[[Master of Middle-earth]]'', by [[Paul H. Kocher]]
*''[[The Keys of Middle-earth]]'', by Stuart Lee and Elizabeth Solopova
*''[[Splintered Light]]'', by [[Verlyn Flieger]]
*''[[Interrupted Music: The Making of Tolkien's Mythology]]'', by Verlyn Flieger
*''[[The Flame Imperishable: Tolkien, St. Thomas, and the Metaphysics of Faerie]]'', by Jonathan S. McIntosh
*''[[The Flame Imperishable: Tolkien, St. Thomas, and the Metaphysics of Faerie]]'', by Jonathan S. McIntosh
*''[[The Gospel According to Tolkien]]'', by [[Ralph C. Wood]]
*''[[The Gospel According to Tolkien]]'', by [[Ralph C. Wood]]
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*''[[Myth, Allegory and Gospel]]'', edited by John Warwick Montgomery
*''[[Myth, Allegory and Gospel]]'', edited by John Warwick Montgomery
*''[[Tolkien's Sacramental Vision: Discerning the Holy in Middle Earth]]'', by Craig Bernthal
*''[[Tolkien's Sacramental Vision: Discerning the Holy in Middle Earth]]'', by Craig Bernthal
*''[[Perilous and Fair]]'', edited by [[Janet Brennan Croft]] and Leslie A. Donovan
*''[[Tolkien's Theology of Beauty]]'', by Lisa Coutras
*''[[Lembas Extra 2022|Lembas Extra 2022: Númenor]]'', edited by [[Jan van Breda]] and [[Renée Vink]]
*''Un Camino Inesperado'', by Diego Blanco
*''Un Camino Inesperado'', by Diego Blanco
*''An Encouraging Thought: The Christian Worldview in the Writings of J.R.R. Tolkien'', by Donald Williams
*''J.R.R. Tolkien. Cuentos de Hadas'', by José Miguel Odero
*''La Lengua de los Elfos'', by Luis González Baixauli
*''La Lengua de los Elfos'', by Luis González Baixauli
*''Atanquesta. A NeoQuenya Primer'', by Tamas Ferencz


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Lorenzo
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Biographical Information
Other namesQuentandil (Q)
PositionAdmin and sporadic editor
LanguageSpanish, English
LocationAranjuez, Spain
OccupationHigh-school teacher
Age27
Edit Count16,063
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This user is an administrator.

Flag of Spain.svg This user is from Spain.

es-N Este usuario puede contribuir con un nivel profesional de español.

<ref> This user recognises the importance of citing sources.

3y This Gatekeeper has contributed to Tolkien Gateway for over three years.

LorenzoCB - Finwe device.png This user loves the Ñoldor.

Rondador - House of the King.png This user believes only The Book of Lost Tales is canon. Everything else is just derivative.

Balrog.png This user believes Balrogs do not have wings.

Jan Drenovec - Túrin vs Morgoth.jpg This user believes the Dagor Dagorath is canonical.

Henning Janssen - Awaiting Ælfwine.jpg This user believes that Ælfwine Wídlást is canonical.
"Nai Eru manyuva tanwenya ar tératuvas!"
Aulë in Quenta Silmarillion, "Of Aulë and Yavanna"

I'm a fan from Spain, a member of the Spanish Tolkien Society, active in the Languages Commission. My English is still on work, so I appreciate any correction, specially with the long texts.

Among my favourite characters are Aulë, Finrod Felagund, Galadriel and Tar-Palantir.

As a converted Catholic, I like to study about Tolkien's theology and Christian implications. I also love Quenya and when I have time I "translate" the works of Riener Quentandil, but currently I'm working on too many projects. Tolkien taught me I should finish things, but I can't help beginning things when new ideas come. I also translate back to (Neo-)Quenya, being the Valaquenta in Neo-Quenya my most completed work.

Beyond Tolkien, some of my interests are: Arthurian mythology, Hinduism, Sanskrit, lifes of saints, the Dune saga, Berserk, the Aeneid, Journey to the West, everything related to C.S. Lewis, some works by Jodorowsky, books by Christian mystic women, devotion to the Most Sacred Heart of Jesus, recording and listening to audiobooks, hiking, cooking biscuits, Dungeon Synth...

Articles I feel proud of

To-do

Personal Sandbox

Headcanons

  • Tom Bombadil is an extraliterary character from the tales Tolkien told to his children. Tolkien refused to remove him from his revision of TLOTR to remember us that we are reading a fairy-tale. That's why both readers and Middle-earth characters do not know where he comes from.
  • Orcs were talking beasts without soul. Therefore they were good creatures in their beginning, as they were directly created by Ilúvatar, but later their wills were corrupted by Morgoth. Therefore they were inclined to evil forever, unless a charitative Vala or Eru himself came to free them. If so, they could have become proper Incarnates like the Ents, but they were exterminated before that happened or at least they could become civilized.
  • Aredhel and Eöl are one of those few cases in which the Eldar falled into lust, as said in Laws and Customs among the Eldar.
  • The Half-elves's choice was determined by their marriage, which is the union of hröar. Once they married an Elf or a Mortal, they became of that race forever. The same way, the union of the hröar in the Unions of Elves and Men demanded an ultimate choice of nature.
  • The prophecy of Andreth is refered to the War of Wrath and was true: in his last conception, Tolkien intended that Túrin was temporarily brought back from Mandos, just like Beren. Then Túrin jumped into Vingilot, and travelled with his relative Eärendil to Middle-earth. In the flying boat, Túrin slayed Ancalagon, accomplishing the decisive victory against Morgoth and thus having the last word in his family's curse. Then he was finally free and leaved the Circles of the World. I was never convinced that a boat could destroy the biggest dragon in the world, but if there is a dragonslayer in it, now that's epic.
  • The Valar were informed about Eru's Incarnation, so the first Christmas feast in the world was hold in Valinor.
  • We are living in the Seventh Age, which began with the Death and Resurrection of Our Lord Jesus Christ. The last and Eighth Age will begin when He returns and it will last forever as an neverending Sunday.
  • The Dagor Dagorath is canon in the sense that it was meant to be included in The Silmarillion, but even in the legendarium it is not suppouse to happen literally, as it comes from an artificial mix between Elven and Mannish traditions. There will be an actual battle between Good and Evil, but the breaking and healing of Arda will be acomplished by Eru himself.
  • Everything is canon; we should talk about "corpus" instead. The Global Theory is true. At the same time, Christopher Tolkien's edition of The Silmarillion is the least canonical work.
  • The Eldar had Baroque dances.

Favourite Tolkien related works

My library

By the Tolkiens

A part of my Tolkien library

By other editors and authors

Another part of my Tolkien library