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| language=Spanish, English
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| location=[[wikipedia:Aranjuez|Aranjuez]], Spain
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{{quote|Nai Eru manyuva tanwenya ar tératuvas!|[[Aulë]] in ''[[Quenta Silmarillion]]'', "[[Of Aulë and Yavanna]]"}}
{{quote|Nai Eru manyuva tanwenya ar tératuvas!|[[Aulë]] in ''[[Quenta Silmarillion]]'', "[[Of Aulë and Yavanna]]"}}
I'm a fan from Spain, a proud member of the [[Spanish Tolkien Society]], active in the Languages Commission. My English is still on work, so I appreciate any correction, specially with the long texts.
I'm a fan from Spain, a member of the [[Spanish Tolkien Society]], active in the Languages Commission. My English is still on work, so I appreciate any correction, specially with the long texts.


Among my favourite characters are [[Aulë]], [[Varda]], [[Finrod Felagund]] and [[Galadriel]].
Among my favourite characters are [[Aulë]], [[Finrod Felagund]], [[Galadriel]] and [[Tar-Palantir]].


As a converted Catholic, I like to study about Tolkien's spirituality and theology. I also love Quenya and when I have time I "translate" the works of '''[[User:LorenzoCB/Quentandil‎|Riener Quentandil]]''', but currently I'm working on too many projects. Tolkien taught me I should finish things, but I can't help beginning things when new ideas come.
As a converted Catholic, I like to study about Tolkien's theology and Christian implications. I also love Quenya and when I have time I "translate" the works of '''[[User:LorenzoCB/Quentandil‎|Riener Quentandil]]''', but currently I'm working on too many projects. Tolkien taught me I should finish things, but I can't help beginning things when new ideas come. I also translate back to (Neo-)Quenya, being the [http://lambendili.sociedadtolkien.org/publicaciones/lambendili/ ''Valaquenta'' in Neo-Quenya] my most completed work.  


Beyond Tolkien I have a healthy obsession with many interests that come and go in my life, but among those that remain are: Arthurian and Hindu mythologies; lifes of saints, the ''Dune'' saga, ''Berserk'', the ''Aeneid'', ''Journey to the West'', books by Christian mystic women, good audiobooks, cooking biscuits, Dungeon Synth, C.S. Lewis, some works by Jodorowsky, and other things.
Beyond Tolkien, some of my interests are: Arthurian mythology, Hinduism, Sanskrit, lifes of saints, the ''Dune'' saga, ''Berserk'', the ''Aeneid'', ''Journey to the West'', everything related to C.S. Lewis, some works by Jodorowsky, books by Christian mystic women, devotion to the Most Sacred Heart of Jesus, recording and listening to audiobooks, hiking, cooking biscuits, Dungeon Synth...


==Articles I feel proud of==
==Articles I feel proud of==
*[[Dagor Dagorath]]
*[[Dagor Dagorath]]
*Finishing all the ''[[The Children of Húrin]]'' chapter synopsis
* All versions of the ''[[Ainulindalë (disambiguation)|Ainulindalë]]''
* All versions of the ''[[Ainulindalë (disambiguation)|Ainulindalë]]''
*[[Gondolin]]
*[[Gondolin]]
* All articles of the [[Twelve Houses of the Gondothlim]] and their lords, specially [[Turgon]] and [[Glorfindel]]
* All articles of the [[twelve houses of the Gondothlim]] and their lords, specially [[Turgon]] and [[Glorfindel]]
*[[Christianity]]
*[[Christianity]]
*[[Index:Conflicts]]
*[[Index:Conflicts]]
*[[Orcs/Origin]]
*[[Orcs/Origin]]
*[[Galadriel]]


:<big>'''[[User:LorenzoCB/Sandbox|Personal Sandbox]]'''</big>
*[[User:LorenzoCB/Ingolonde Project|Ingolonde Project]]
*[[User:LorenzoCB/Ingolonde Project|Ingolonde Project]]
*[[User:LorenzoCB/Quentandil‎|Riener Quentandil]]
*[[User:LorenzoCB/Quentandil‎|Riener Quentandil]]
*[[:Category:Images by Lorenzo Carrera|My images]]


==Things I'd like to improve and create if I had more time==
==To-do==
*Articles related to the [[Amazon series]], beginning with [[Galadriel]].
:<big>'''[[User:LorenzoCB/Sandbox|Personal Sandbox]]'''</big>
*<big>[[Tolkien Gateway:Task list]]</big>
*[[:Category:Candidates for speedy deletion]]
*''[[The Notion Club Papers]]'' synopsis
** [[Foreword and List of Members]]
** [[The Notion Club Papers Part One|''The Notion Club Papers'' Part One]]
** [[The Notion Club Papers Part Two|''The Notion Club Papers'' Part Two]]
** [[Major Divergences in Earlier Versions of Part Two|Major Divergences in Earlier Versions]]
**[[Lowdham's Report on the Adunaic Language]]
*Articles related to the [[Amazon series]]
*Finish [[Christianity]] article
*Finish [[Christianity]] article
*All articles about the [[Valar]], specially their OVOTL sections
*All articles about the [[Valar]], specially their OVOTL sections
*The matter of ''[[The Book of Lost Tales]]''
*The matter of ''[[The Book of Lost Tales]]''
**Proper article for the general topic
**Proper article for the general topic
**Summary of every chapter
**Synopsis of every chapter
**Articles for topics exclusive from TBOLT
**Articles for topics exclusive from TBOLT
**Expand all OVOTL sections that should deal with TBOLT
**Expand all OVOTL sections that should deal with TBOLT
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==Headcanons==
==Headcanons==
*[[Tom Bombadil]] is an extraliterary character from the tales Tolkien told to his children. Tolkien refused to remove him from his revision of ''TLOR'' to remember us that we are reading a fairy-tale. That's why both readers and Middle-earth characters do not know where he comes from.
*[[Tom Bombadil]] is an extraliterary character from the tales Tolkien told to his children. Tolkien refused to remove him from his revision of ''TLOTR'' to remember us that we are reading a fairy-tale. That's why both readers and Middle-earth characters do not know where he comes from.
*[[Orcs]] were [[Orcs/Origin#Souless animals|talking beasts without soul]]. Therefore they were good creatures in their beginning, as they were directly created by Ilúvatar, but later their wills were corrupted by Morgoth. Therefore they were inclined to evil forever, unless a charitative Vala or Eru himself came to free them. If so, they could have become proper [[Incarnates]] like the [[Ents]], but they were exterminated before that happened or at least they could become civilized.
*[[Orcs]] were [[Orcs/Origin#Souless animals|talking beasts without soul]]. Therefore they were good creatures in their beginning, as they were directly created by Ilúvatar, but later their wills were corrupted by Morgoth. Therefore they were inclined to evil forever, unless a charitative Vala or Eru himself came to free them. If so, they could have become proper [[Incarnates]] like the [[Ents]], but they were exterminated before that happened or at least they could become civilized.
*[[Aredhel]] and [[Eöl]] are one of those few cases in which the Eldar falled into lust, as said in ''[[Laws and Customs among the Eldar]]''.
*[[Aredhel]] and [[Eöl]] are one of those few cases in which the Eldar falled into lust, as said in ''[[Laws and Customs among the Eldar]]''.
*The [[Half-elves]]'s choice was determined by their marriage, which is the union of [[hröa|hröar]]. Once they married an Elf or a Mortal, they became of that race forever.
*The [[Half-elves]]'s choice was determined by their marriage, which is the union of [[hröa|hröar]]. Once they married an Elf or a Mortal, they became of that race forever. The same way, the union of the hröar in the [[Unions of Elves and Men]] demanded an ultimate choice of nature.
*The [[Ancalagon#Other versions of the legendarium|prophecy]] of [[Andreth]] is refered to the [[War of Wrath]] and was true: in his last conception, Tolkien intended that [[Túrin]] was temporarily brought back from [[Halls of Mandos|Mandos]], just like [[Beren]]. Then Túrin, still in Valinor, jumped into [[Vingilot]], and travelled with his cousin [[Eärendil]] to Middle-earth. In the flying boat, Túrin slayed [[Ancalagon]], accomplishing the decisive victory against Morgoth and thus having the last word in his family's curse. Then he was finally free and leaved the Circles of the World. I was never convinced that a boat could destroy the biggest [[dragon]] in the world, but if there is a dragonslayer in it, now that's epic.
*The [[Ancalagon#Other versions of the legendarium|prophecy]] of [[Andreth]] is refered to the [[War of Wrath]] and was true: in his last conception, Tolkien intended that [[Túrin]] was temporarily brought back from [[Halls of Mandos|Mandos]], just like [[Beren]]. Then Túrin jumped into [[Vingilot]], and travelled with his relative [[Eärendil]] to Middle-earth. In the flying boat, Túrin slayed [[Ancalagon]], accomplishing the decisive victory against Morgoth and thus having the last word in his family's curse. Then he was finally free and leaved the Circles of the World. I was never convinced that a boat could destroy the biggest [[dragon]] in the world, but if there is a dragonslayer in it, now that's epic.
*The [[Valar]] were informed about [[Eru]]'s [[Old Hope|Incarnation]], so the first [[Christmas]] feast in the world was hold in Valinor.
*The [[Valar]] were informed about [[Eru]]'s [[Old Hope|Incarnation]], so the first [[Christmas]] feast in the world was hold in Valinor.
*We are living in the Seventh [[Age]], which began with the Death and Resurrection of Our Lord Jesus Christ. The last and Eighth Age will begin when He returns and it will last forever.
*We are living in the Seventh [[Age]], which began with the Death and Resurrection of Our Lord Jesus Christ. The last and Eighth Age will begin when He returns and it will last forever as an neverending Sunday.
*The [[Dagor Dagorath]] is canon in the sense that it was meant to be included in ''The Silmarillion'', but even in the legendarium it is not suppouse to happen literally, as it comes from an artificial mix between Elven and Mannish traditions. There will be an actual battle between Good and Evil, but the breaking and healing of Arda will be acomplished by Eru himself.
*The [[Dagor Dagorath]] is canon in the sense that it was meant to be included in ''The Silmarillion'', but even in the legendarium it is not suppouse to happen literally, as it comes from an artificial mix between Elven and Mannish traditions. There will be an actual battle between Good and Evil, but the breaking and healing of Arda will be acomplished by Eru himself.
*Everything is [[canon]]; we should talk about "corpus" instead. The [[Global Theory]] is true. At the same time, Christopher Tolkien's edition of ''[[The Silmarillion]]'' is the less canonical work.
*Everything is [[canon]]; we should talk about "corpus" instead. The [[Global Theory]] is true. At the same time, Christopher Tolkien's edition of ''[[The Silmarillion]]'' is the least canonical work.
*The [[Eldar]] had [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVnksxk5gyE Baroque dances].
*The [[Eldar]] had [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVnksxk5gyE Baroque dances].


==Favourite Tolkien related works==
==Favourite Tolkien related works==
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** ''Aeneid'', by Virgil
** ''Aeneid'', by Virgil
** ''[[Kalevala]]'', by [[Elias Lönnrot]]
** ''[[Kalevala]]'', by [[Elias Lönnrot]]
*Artists
*Music artists
**[[The Fellowship (band)]]
**[[The Fellowship (band)]]
** [http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCX4WZErPVapopqbisADEV_Q Adele McAllister]
** [http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCX4WZErPVapopqbisADEV_Q Adele McAllister]
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==My library==
==My library==
===By the Tolkiens===
===By the Tolkiens===
[[File:LorenzoCB - My biblioteca.jpeg|200px|thumb|A part of my Tolkien library]]
*''[[The Hobbit]]'' / ''El Hobbit''
*''[[The Hobbit]]'' / ''El Hobbit''
*''[[The Lord of the Rings]]'' / ''El Señor de los Anillos''
*''[[The Lord of the Rings]]'' (50th anniversary edition) / ''El Señor de los Anillos''
*''[[Tree and Leaf|Árbol y Hoja]]''
*''[[Tree and Leaf|Árbol y Hoja]]''
*''[[The Tolkien Reader]]''
*''[[The Tolkien Reader]]''
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*''[[The Fall of Arthur|La Caída de Arturo]]''
*''[[The Fall of Arthur|La Caída de Arturo]]''
*''[[Beowulf: A Translation and Commentary|Beowulf: Traducción y comentario]]''
*''[[Beowulf: A Translation and Commentary|Beowulf: Traducción y comentario]]''
*''[[Beren and Lúthien|Beren y Lúthien]]''
*''[[The Fall of Gondolin|La Caída de Gondolin]]''


===By other editors and authors ===
===By other editors and authors ===
*''The Collected [[Vinyar Tengwar]]'', volumes 1-5 (issues 1-50), edited by [[Carl F. Hostetter]]
[[File:LorenzoCB - My biblioteca 2.jpeg|200px|thumb|Another part of my Tolkien library]]
*''[[The Nature of Middle-earth]]'', edited by Carl F. Hostetter
*[[Vinyar Tengwar|The Collected ''Vinyar Tengwar'']], volumes 1-5 (issues [[Vinyar Tengwar 1|1]]-[[Vinyar Tengwar 50|50]]), edited by [[Carl F. Hostetter]]
*''[[The Nature of Middle-earth]]'' / ''La Naturaleza de la Tierra Media'', edited by Carl F. Hostetter
*''[[Parma Eldalamberon]]'', issues [[Parma Eldalamberon 11|11]]-[[Parma Eldalamberon 17|17]], edited by [[Christopher Gilson]]
*''[[Parma Eldalamberon]]'', issues [[Parma Eldalamberon 11|11]]-[[Parma Eldalamberon 17|17]], edited by [[Christopher Gilson]]
*''[[A Secret Vice (book)|A Secret Vice]]'', edited by [[Dimitra Fimi]] and [[Andrew Higgins]]
*''[[A Secret Vice (book)|A Secret Vice]]'', edited by [[Dimitra Fimi]] and [[Andrew Higgins]]
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*''[[Perilous and Fair]]'', edited by [[Janet Brennan Croft]] and Leslie A. Donovan
*''[[Perilous and Fair]]'', edited by [[Janet Brennan Croft]] and Leslie A. Donovan
*''[[Tolkien's Theology of Beauty]]'', by Lisa Coutras
*''[[Tolkien's Theology of Beauty]]'', by Lisa Coutras
*''[[Lembas Extra 2022|Lembas Extra 2022: Númenor]]'', edited by [[Jan van Breda]] and [[Renée Vink]]
*''Un Camino Inesperado'', by Diego Blanco
*''Un Camino Inesperado'', by Diego Blanco
*''An Encouraging Thought: The Christian Worldview in the Writings of J.R.R. Tolkien'', by Donald Williams
*''J.R.R. Tolkien. Cuentos de Hadas'', by José Miguel Odero
*''J.R.R. Tolkien. Cuentos de Hadas'', by José Miguel Odero
*''La Lengua de los Elfos'', by Luis González Baixauli
*''La Lengua de los Elfos'', by Luis González Baixauli
*''Atanquesta. A NeoQuenya Primer'', by Tamas Ferencz
*''Atanquesta. A NeoQuenya Primer'', by Tamas Ferencz
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Lorenzo
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es-N Este usuario puede contribuir con un nivel profesional de español.

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3y This Gatekeeper has contributed to Tolkien Gateway for over three years.

LorenzoCB - Finwe device.png This user loves the Ñoldor.

Rondador - House of the King.png This user believes only The Book of Lost Tales is canon. Everything else is just derivative.

Balrog.png This user believes Balrogs do not have wings.

Jan Drenovec - Túrin vs Morgoth.jpg This user believes the Dagor Dagorath is canonical.

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"Nai Eru manyuva tanwenya ar tératuvas!"
Aulë in Quenta Silmarillion, "Of Aulë and Yavanna"

I'm a fan from Spain, a member of the Spanish Tolkien Society, active in the Languages Commission. My English is still on work, so I appreciate any correction, specially with the long texts.

Among my favourite characters are Aulë, Finrod Felagund, Galadriel and Tar-Palantir.

As a converted Catholic, I like to study about Tolkien's theology and Christian implications. I also love Quenya and when I have time I "translate" the works of Riener Quentandil, but currently I'm working on too many projects. Tolkien taught me I should finish things, but I can't help beginning things when new ideas come. I also translate back to (Neo-)Quenya, being the Valaquenta in Neo-Quenya my most completed work.

Beyond Tolkien, some of my interests are: Arthurian mythology, Hinduism, Sanskrit, lifes of saints, the Dune saga, Berserk, the Aeneid, Journey to the West, everything related to C.S. Lewis, some works by Jodorowsky, books by Christian mystic women, devotion to the Most Sacred Heart of Jesus, recording and listening to audiobooks, hiking, cooking biscuits, Dungeon Synth...

Articles I feel proud of

To-do

Personal Sandbox

Headcanons

  • Tom Bombadil is an extraliterary character from the tales Tolkien told to his children. Tolkien refused to remove him from his revision of TLOTR to remember us that we are reading a fairy-tale. That's why both readers and Middle-earth characters do not know where he comes from.
  • Orcs were talking beasts without soul. Therefore they were good creatures in their beginning, as they were directly created by Ilúvatar, but later their wills were corrupted by Morgoth. Therefore they were inclined to evil forever, unless a charitative Vala or Eru himself came to free them. If so, they could have become proper Incarnates like the Ents, but they were exterminated before that happened or at least they could become civilized.
  • Aredhel and Eöl are one of those few cases in which the Eldar falled into lust, as said in Laws and Customs among the Eldar.
  • The Half-elves's choice was determined by their marriage, which is the union of hröar. Once they married an Elf or a Mortal, they became of that race forever. The same way, the union of the hröar in the Unions of Elves and Men demanded an ultimate choice of nature.
  • The prophecy of Andreth is refered to the War of Wrath and was true: in his last conception, Tolkien intended that Túrin was temporarily brought back from Mandos, just like Beren. Then Túrin jumped into Vingilot, and travelled with his relative Eärendil to Middle-earth. In the flying boat, Túrin slayed Ancalagon, accomplishing the decisive victory against Morgoth and thus having the last word in his family's curse. Then he was finally free and leaved the Circles of the World. I was never convinced that a boat could destroy the biggest dragon in the world, but if there is a dragonslayer in it, now that's epic.
  • The Valar were informed about Eru's Incarnation, so the first Christmas feast in the world was hold in Valinor.
  • We are living in the Seventh Age, which began with the Death and Resurrection of Our Lord Jesus Christ. The last and Eighth Age will begin when He returns and it will last forever as an neverending Sunday.
  • The Dagor Dagorath is canon in the sense that it was meant to be included in The Silmarillion, but even in the legendarium it is not suppouse to happen literally, as it comes from an artificial mix between Elven and Mannish traditions. There will be an actual battle between Good and Evil, but the breaking and healing of Arda will be acomplished by Eru himself.
  • Everything is canon; we should talk about "corpus" instead. The Global Theory is true. At the same time, Christopher Tolkien's edition of The Silmarillion is the least canonical work.
  • The Eldar had Baroque dances.

Favourite Tolkien related works

My library

By the Tolkiens

A part of my Tolkien library

By other editors and authors

Another part of my Tolkien library