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No, I was not referring to her hair color or garments, and had almost forgotten about that poem. I found it extremely weird how Aragorn drew strength from that poem, though I see the resemblance of the two love-lifes.
No, I was not referring to her hair color or garments (had almost forgotten about that poem) more to the whole distopia theme I created back there. (I found it extremely weird how Aragorn drew strength from that poem, though I see the resemblance of the two love-lifes)


Grief can conque almost anything. I have discovered though, it has no hold over longing and love. Taste, friendship, wildness, and kindness vanish before Grief. Especially when the death is because of loyalty. That is where it hurts most for me. I'm not afraid of the dark, but the things that could be hidden in its shadow. For the dark is unthreatening without any way to threaten.
Grief can conque almost anything. I have discovered though, it has no hold over longing and love. Taste, friendship, wildness, and kindness vanish before Grief. Especially when the death is because of loyalty. And with the elves, they are all massing together to protect their cities, with unquestionable loyalty. I'm not afraid of the dark, but the things that could be hidden in its shadow. For the dark is unthreatening without any way to threaten.  


I agree that the elven powers of the characters are frustratingly constant, but they are supposed to be the root of the story, and have to be strong constantly. For instance, (I really apologize for using a movie reference!) when Borimir died, do u remember Legolas wearing his weird smile/concern face?! I mean, Aragorn was down on his knees, and he stands to a side, looking at them with a thoughtfu expression, as if he wasn't a witness to one of the most saddening scenes in the movie! That is a distance that just annoys the heck out of me.
I agree that the elven powers of the characters are frustratingly constant, but they are supposed to be the root of the story, and have to be strong constantly. For instance, (I really apologize for using a movie reference!) when Borimir died, do u remember Legolas wearing his weird smile/concern face?! I mean, Aragorn was down on his knees, and he stands to a side, looking at them with a thoughtfu expression, as if he wasn't a witness to one of the most saddening scenes in the movie! That is a distance that just annoys the heck out of me.


Have you read the "Here, There be dragons" series? It's all about amazing adventures about someone important, though I won't say who (such a good ending, one of those Ah-ha moments that you didn't see coming, and totally got you off-guard, but on the second read, you can fairly see all the clues. [[User:Arya|Arya]] 08:08, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
Have you read the "Here, There be Dragons" series? It's all about amazing adventures about someone important, though I won't say who (such a good ending, one of those Ah-ha moments that you didn't see coming, and totally got you off-guard, but on the second read, you can fairly see all the clues).[[User:Arya|Arya]] 08:08, 19 September 2015 (UTC)

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Is your username after Arya from the Eragon series, it is spelled the exact same way. You don't have to answer if you don't want to.

Actually it's from Game of Thrones. I have read that series by Christopher P. and enjoyed it immensely, but to me, the Arya in the Eragon books was just to distant for me to love. Arya always struck me as a beautiful name, and a name that works on both elves and humans :) Arya

Hi there! I read aforementioned Aryas and loved both with a fervor. Inheritance series came first though. Wisenoob

Do u mean the books came first, or the Arya in it? Arya

The books came first. As for preference, does the elf have a somewhat higher place in me than the Stark girl? Yes.

Arya Drottning (I know it means queen in Swedish, but God that is still a weird last name), as in Eragon and Eldest at least, was my sole most prominent legend for a large portion of my childhood. It is in me to adore a beautiful, distant, strong-willed, and righteous being. A bit unlike you, distance is important to me too. The child in me once shed tears for Galadriel just because she is not single ;) Then of course, with Arya being a name of power to me, when I read into the Stark girl I found many of the similar qualities. The elf is where it all began though. Wisenoob

Hmmm. Distance is a way where you can fill in the gaps with your imagination. I personally do this, but am sometimes disappointed when my imagination runs ahead of me and is more exciting than the real storyline. Like if John Snow isn't Targarian, I will die. Arya 22:24, 5 September 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]

What's the story behind your username? Arya 22:26, 5 September 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]


My username has no story actually, it just so happens no one else is registered with it.

Now, about the literary disappointments...I get disappointed plenty more often than you, to the point of agonizing anger.

To me all the stories out there (even Paolini's, to a lesser degree) regarding elves have gotten their power scales completely wrong. A race that is already gifted, and possessing a life spanning tens of thousands of years, should amass tremendous power and knowledge to do better than falling for infantile mortals and having babies with them and go die. You notice how all these cross-racial / cross-mortality love stories always have elves as females, rather than the other way around? For God's sake life as elven females has to be more than singing and dancing and brooding over their silly unquenchable lust for a lesser race of infants. Base, demeaning tales that only serve some men's sickly fantasy.

Let me just put it this way, If I am Luthien I will have absolute zero interest in romantic relationships with men, stay a friendly but haughty being, drown myself in spellbooks and trainings all day every day, and conjure up a power even the Valars never found to challenge Melkor, and live happily ever after, alone and terrific to behold.

So yes, my personal hell has a special place for the bad blood in stories of Luthien, Idril and Arwen. I'll shatter them and carve them anew so they become stories I actually enjoy reading. Wisenoob


Wow. Ok, so much for all those elven fairytales my dad conjured up to get me to sleep. Yeah, I see what u mean, but Tolkien for his credit was born in a messed up time period and Arya totally shunned Eragon. But there is no boy-elf love (unless u count Legolas, who is separated from his lovers by a million years).

I don't think I'd like the drowning in textbooks, since I've done it already, and found it's not to my liking. I can't imagine what it would be like to stay on earth for a thousand years... That would be sort of sad, watching everything I touch die (asides from my fellow elves, but some of them would probably die too). I would be shocked or sick of it, so I'd probably just marry a human to die anyways. And all the stupid people thought it was true love when it was actually suicide.

Because my little haven would be a utopia and the rest of the world would be in ashes. I would go mentally insane by the fact that i couldn't save everything, and that evil was slowly creeping over my borders. Every day, someone that I've known for centuries would die by an orc's blade. The constant fire in the distance would say the elven world is over, DESPAIR NOW. And I would, secretly inside, and lose all dreams, hopes, wonder that make life what it was.

Do you have any recommendations on books?!? Dying from lack of fiction here!!!

Will imagine you as Luthien from this point forth Arya 01:23, 17 September 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Sorry if that sounded a little tiny bit dark ;) Arya 01:28, 17 September 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Books to recommend? Fantasy-wise I haven't read much recently, I tried to pick up Wheel of Time at some point but gave up. Recently I read The Metamorphosis, Memoirs of a Geisha, and some re-reads of 1984 and Brave New World. No particular characters I liked, but today I'm dwelling on the name Arien Urwendi. Uttering it gives me a renewed strength.

I may be the Luthien in you? Color me extremely flattered. I'll aspire in becoming a better Luthien in ways Tolkien (and his wife apparently) never knew.

By saying dark, are you referring to your entire comment, or Luthien's hair and garments? (I'll assume the former.)

Never feel sorry in either case. As a child I was once afraid of dark, I couldn't sleep alone very well because being alone in the dark meant something silly (but dreadful at the time) I watched or read would haunt me.

Then the dark haired, nightly Arya came along. And in her reverence I started to appreciate the physical dark around me, my solitude, and a form of deep beauty unearthly, untouched and unruly. It was more than enough to dispel my fear. Not that my love for radiant things had been diminished, but to me dark has been stripped of its negative associations. I'll take it as a compliment any time.

As for the grievances of being an immortal, I'll point out something for you (a restatement really).

In Tolkien's world, character power is horribly constant. They hold on to the same skill and energy level from day one to day eleventy million; thus an immortal's power is little more than a mortal with a thousandth of knowledge and experience.

Of course this becomes utter and complete nonsense when any common sense is applied; no elf's power, however sloth and imbecile some specimen might be, will remain constant a hundred years later. Their skillset will grow as their dominance over less gifted races expands. Their individual intellect and power will blossom through endless discoveries and exercises. Their intellect would become so formidable such that they continue to perceive their surroundings like never before. Perhaps a process to draw strength from the distant stars could be discovered, or a way to breath life and memories into beings that are no more. With an indefinite lifespan and a benevolent will, they are sure to alter whatever withered fate false prophets might say about them, and build a splendor the gods can do nothing but envy, for a god's power is horribly constant!

And lastly, your longings, friendships, artistic tastes, and your beauty, kindness, wildness - in essence, everything about you that's worth living for - are the reason of your being, and no amount of grief will ever change that. Wisenoob 05:57, 18 September 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]


No, I was not referring to her hair color or garments (had almost forgotten about that poem) more to the whole distopia theme I created back there. (I found it extremely weird how Aragorn drew strength from that poem, though I see the resemblance of the two love-lifes)

Grief can conque almost anything. I have discovered though, it has no hold over longing and love. Taste, friendship, wildness, and kindness vanish before Grief. Especially when the death is because of loyalty. And with the elves, they are all massing together to protect their cities, with unquestionable loyalty. I'm not afraid of the dark, but the things that could be hidden in its shadow. For the dark is unthreatening without any way to threaten.

I agree that the elven powers of the characters are frustratingly constant, but they are supposed to be the root of the story, and have to be strong constantly. For instance, (I really apologize for using a movie reference!) when Borimir died, do u remember Legolas wearing his weird smile/concern face?! I mean, Aragorn was down on his knees, and he stands to a side, looking at them with a thoughtfu expression, as if he wasn't a witness to one of the most saddening scenes in the movie! That is a distance that just annoys the heck out of me.

Have you read the "Here, There be Dragons" series? It's all about amazing adventures about someone important, though I won't say who (such a good ending, one of those Ah-ha moments that you didn't see coming, and totally got you off-guard, but on the second read, you can fairly see all the clues).Arya 08:08, 19 September 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]