https://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:SingingOrc&feed=atom&action=historyUser talk:SingingOrc - Revision history2024-03-28T18:57:12ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.39.3https://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:SingingOrc&diff=376210&oldid=prevSingingOrc: /* Edits to the Galadriel and Celebrimbor pages */ Reply2023-07-01T21:21:39Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Edits to the Galadriel and Celebrimbor pages: </span> Reply</span></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::You did great! I'm not sure Akhôrahil saw your initial talk page discussion. It's just a coincidence that [[User:LorenzoCB]] ("Quentandil" on Discord) finished rewriting the Galadriel page recently and I don't think he's had time to read your discussion topic just yet. We use <nowiki>&lt;nowiki&gt;{{claimed}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;</nowiki> to indicate an article is currently being rewritten by someone, and since that was recently removed, there's nothing indicating someone should avoid making changes. There's also no set time someone needs to wait after posing a question on a talk page, so after a few days I would have also just jumped in and made the changes; better to have editors with the drive to get things done than have us all waiting a month to make a change to something. We try to use the talk pages for a lot of discussions, but sometimes a [[Tolkien Gateway:Chat|chat on Discord]] is a bit easier, so feel free to join us if you're ever interested. Keep up the great work! [[User:Hyarion|Hyarion]] ([[User talk:Hyarion|talk]]) 21:14, 1 July 2023 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::You did great! I'm not sure Akhôrahil saw your initial talk page discussion. It's just a coincidence that [[User:LorenzoCB]] ("Quentandil" on Discord) finished rewriting the Galadriel page recently and I don't think he's had time to read your discussion topic just yet. We use <nowiki>&lt;nowiki&gt;{{claimed}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;</nowiki> to indicate an article is currently being rewritten by someone, and since that was recently removed, there's nothing indicating someone should avoid making changes. There's also no set time someone needs to wait after posing a question on a talk page, so after a few days I would have also just jumped in and made the changes; better to have editors with the drive to get things done than have us all waiting a month to make a change to something. We try to use the talk pages for a lot of discussions, but sometimes a [[Tolkien Gateway:Chat|chat on Discord]] is a bit easier, so feel free to join us if you're ever interested. Keep up the great work! [[User:Hyarion|Hyarion]] ([[User talk:Hyarion|talk]]) 21:14, 1 July 2023 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
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</table>SingingOrchttps://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:SingingOrc&diff=376208&oldid=prevHyarion: /* Edits to the Galadriel and Celebrimbor pages */ Reply2023-07-01T21:14:04Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Edits to the Galadriel and Celebrimbor pages: </span> Reply</span></p>
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</table>Hyarionhttps://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:SingingOrc&diff=376207&oldid=prevSingingOrc: /* Edits to the Galadriel and Celebrimbor pages */ Reply2023-07-01T20:51:43Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Edits to the Galadriel and Celebrimbor pages: </span> Reply</span></p>
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</table>SingingOrchttps://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:SingingOrc&diff=376145&oldid=prevSingingOrc: /* References to The Lord of the Rings */ Reply2023-06-29T17:13:55Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">References to The Lord of the Rings: </span> Reply</span></p>
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<tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">I noticed that you included references to The Lord of the Rings without page numbers in your recent edits. Do you have a copy of the 50th anniversary edition of LOTR or of a later edition, whose page numbering is compatible and are you already familiar with the page numbers section on the Help:References page? --[[User:Akhorahil|Akhôrahil]] ([[User talk:Akhorahil|talk]]) 08:22, 29 June 2023 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">I noticed that you edited the Galadriel and Celembrimbor pages and the Galadriel talk (discussion) page. The user Quentandil spent a lot of time editing the Galadriel page and explaining the differences between different versions in the Other versions of the legendarium section of the Galadriel page. I suggest that you discuss edits on the Galadriel page and the Celebrimbor page with him (either on the talk pages or on the discord chat) before making edits to ensure that there is consistency between the version in the main sections and the information in the Other versions of the legendarium section on related pages on Tolkien Gateway. --[[User:Akhorahil|Akhôrahil]] ([[User talk:Akhorahil|talk]]) 08:22, 29 June 2023 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Thank you for the notice. As for the minor checkbox, I assumed it was minor since I changed none of the content, but only added citations. As for templates, I am sorry if I caused any inconvenience, but since the results are exactly the same, I do not quite see why that matters.—[[User:SingingOrc|SingingOrc]] 19:03, 2 November 2021 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Thank you for the notice. As for the minor checkbox, I assumed it was minor since I changed none of the content, but only added citations. As for templates, I am sorry if I caused any inconvenience, but since the results are exactly the same, I do not quite see why that matters.—[[User:SingingOrc|SingingOrc]] 19:03, 2 November 2021 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
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</table>Akhorahilhttps://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:SingingOrc&diff=338014&oldid=prevSingingOrc: /* References in clear Text instead of templates for references */2021-11-02T19:03:10Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">References in clear Text instead of templates for references</span></span></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I noticed that you checked the minor edit box again eben you added references in clear text. Please use the templates for references. Please do not write references as clear text. I recommend that you look at pages, such as Template:FR, Template:TT, Template:RK, Template:App, Template:UT, Template:S, Template:PM and other Template: pages to get familiar with templates for references. --[[User:Akhorahil|Akhorahil]] 06:34, 31 October 2021 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I noticed that you checked the minor edit box again eben you added references in clear text. Please use the templates for references. Please do not write references as clear text. I recommend that you look at pages, such as Template:FR, Template:TT, Template:RK, Template:App, Template:UT, Template:S, Template:PM and other Template: pages to get familiar with templates for references. --[[User:Akhorahil|Akhorahil]] 06:34, 31 October 2021 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">I noticed that you checked the minor edit box again eben you added references in clear text. Please use the templates for references. Please do not write references as clear text. I recommend that you look at pages, such as Template:FR, Template:TT, Template:RK, Template:App, Template:UT, Template:S, Template:PM and other Template: pages to get familiar with templates for references. --[[User:Akhorahil|Akhorahil]] 06:34, 31 October 2021 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Hi there. I noticed your recent edit on the [[Golf]] article, but I would just suggest to not mark these types of edits as "minor." The minor checkbox would be better suited for things like adding links to words, correcting typos, or fixing formatting mistakes. From [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Minor_edit Wikipedia]: "A minor edit is one that the editor believes requires no review and could never be the subject of a dispute." In this particular case, I feel like it changes the meaning of the article enough for others to review it. --[[User:Oromë|Oromë]] 01:34, 10 September 2021 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Hi there. I noticed your recent edit on the [[Golf]] article, but I would just suggest to not mark these types of edits as "minor." The minor checkbox would be better suited for things like adding links to words, correcting typos, or fixing formatting mistakes. From [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Minor_edit Wikipedia]: "A minor edit is one that the editor believes requires no review and could never be the subject of a dispute." In this particular case, I feel like it changes the meaning of the article enough for others to review it. --[[User:Oromë|Oromë]] 01:34, 10 September 2021 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
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