Latest comment: 28 November 2013 by Morgan in topic Name of page
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Should these poems be included:
- Poems in the essay A Secret Vice (1931), published in 1983 in The Monsters and the Critics and Other Essays
- Oilima Markirya (with a revised version from much later time)
- The Last Ark
- Nieninque
- Earendel
- Earendel at the Helm
- Dir avosaith
And this!
And this?
- The Lay of the Fall of Gondolin (1920s) (The Lays of Beleriand 144-149)
--Tik 05:34, 17 November 2007 (EST)
- I don't see any reason why not :) Good catch! --Hyarion 12:52, 17 November 2007 (EST)
- Added. --Tik 15:53, 17 November 2007 (EST)
Poems within the legendarium
It is stated on the page that the category "does not include poems published within Tolkien's legendarium." But how do we categorize these? --Morgan 08:46, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
- Poems in The Hobbit and Poems in The Lord of the Rings, mainly. --Mith (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 20:11, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
Structure of list
I'm thinking of doing some tweaks on this list:
- Move the year of composition to before the title (for example: *[[19XX]] Title of poem)
- Implement a chronology based on year of composition (which is stated in the introduction, but not used throughout the article)
- Use "..." or '...' for titles of poems (seems to be standard on TG), and cursive for titles of publications.
Would this be okey for everyone? --Morgan 17:57, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
- Yes.
- I'm not enthusiastic: people tend to search for stuff by year of publication and not year of writing. What about poems written over several years?
- Italics: yes. I don't understand the purpose of "...". --Mith (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 20:11, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
- 2) Then only include the year when it was first published? This would be enough, IMHO.
- 3) Do you mean that we should use italics for both the title of poems and of publications? --Morgan 21:52, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
- 2. Do you mean that for all poems, or just poems which are written over many years?
- 3. Italics for publications, quotes for poems, e.g. "Errantry" in The Adventures of Tom Bombadil. (I now realise what you meant.). --Mith (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 00:08, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
- 2. All poems.--Morgan 09:30, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
Name of page
I think this page could be renamed to UNCOLLECTED POEMS. Since this is the name give it to Tom Shippey in a essay on Encyclopedia of J.R.R.Tolkien. There are others poems that I included in last days. But change the name of the page could be better. —Unsigned comment by Sigurd (talk • contribs).
- The poems we include in this index are both collected and uncollected, so I don't see any reason to change the name of the article.--Morgan 15:24, 28 November 2013 (UTC)