Hey Eazy, can you give reference to this please?--Dwarf Lord 15:35, 27 November 2006 (EST)
Very little in Google which is usually not a good sign. Here's all I can come up with:
- "The vally is Nan Ungol, meaning spider vally [sic] or vally [sic] of spiders, thats what it says on my giant map, but in the silmarillion it says that it is nan dolomoth, with is the vally of evil death or some such"
- There's also mention of it here on some other forums which seems to have come from this page on thelandofshadow.com.
It definitely doesn't sound like it is canon but if it's just an early term used by JRRT then I think it's worth having, otherwise if it was just made up for some Roleplaying game then we'll it. --Hyarion 17:14, 27 November 2006 (EST)
The site said that this place was made up by the webmaster or someone with the site not by Tolkien. I say get rid of it. Even though it is an interesting map they do have on there. --Dwarf Lord 00:23, 2 December 2006 (EST)
It is actually on a rare map of Mordor made by Tokien himself. There is a picture of the map in the preface of the movie visual guide to the Return of the King movie adaption. As is the Eastern Desolation, the Eastern Guard, Nargoth, Seregost, and plenty of other things. 188.8.131.52 23:41, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
- Is there any evidence for this? As opposed to having been made up for a film map? I have just gone through Artist and Illustrator and checked through The History of Middle-earth and could find no evidence of its existence. I don't believe this is a real thing. --Mith (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 19:01, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
- There's no such thing as "a rare map of Mordor made by Tolkien". These places are all fannish and/or invented in connection to PJ's films. The false statement of the "rare map" is perpetuated at the One Wiki to Rule them All (strange that no admin over at that wiki has dealt with this, i.e., it should be more clear that these places weren't created by Tolkien).--Morgan 20:13, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
- In that case, agreed. --Amroth 22:01, 28 September 2014 (UTC)