Greeting new users
I'm not sure that Mith is the best person to leave the initial greeting on new users' talk pages. I saw the greeting on my talk page, which suggested that I bring any questions to him. I did so, and his response was curt at best, rude at worst.
After looking through the other entries in his talk page, I got the impression that this is pretty much par for the course with him. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, and assume he was having a bad day or something, but I don't think that this is the case. If he is determined to be laconic and/or borderline hostile, I think someone else should greet new users to the site.
If the status quo is maintained, we run the risk of scaring away the greater part of the people who join the site. It creates the impression that new people are not really welcome here, and their contributions (and especially their questions) are unwanted. I assume that this is not the case. WadCheber 04:36, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
- Well said WadCheber. I have responded over on Mith's talk apge. --Hyarion 20:52, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
Founder
Hyarion, I'm getting the feeling there leaders on this web and such, but no one has mentioned who the founder is. Of course u made the council forums, and Mith has his bot, which are both impossible feats of coding, but who started it? -IgnorantArya
- Hi Arya :) I hope your week is going great! Good question. Tolkien Gateway:About provides some background on the history of the site. If you have any more questions just let me know and I would be happy to answer them. TG in itself is definitely an impossible feat for any individual and I think it just goes to show how powerful a community of passionate fans can be, yourself included. --Hyarion 03:52, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
Thanks a ton Hyarion! Hope ur having an awesome summer or winter break (depending what hemisphere you're enjoying your vacation in) Arya 01:35, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
Image Download
Me again, Hi! I was wondering if you could download or tell me how to download Airyn's file (if it's okay with u). I believe it's a good representation of his travels, and there are no other images on that page so far. Still a newbie with the whole techy stuff, sorry! Arya 00:13, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
Re-writes
When it lists things on the To-do list, like an article needs to be re-written because it does not meet the standards, how does one know what needs to be done?
Does it need to be longer? Does it need more refs put in?
The only comment I saw on the Eöl page, for example, is the genealogy chart was too long for a relatively minor character. That's a small edit though not a re-write.
I really don't know how to start or what to add. The information presented may be brief, but it is not incorrect. —Unsigned comment by Elf-esteem (talk • contribs).
- Hi Elf-esteem, it's great to have you aboard! In regards to Eöl, I agree there should have been more information as to what actually needs to be rewritten. The History section is the primary culprit. Those paragraphs contain quite a bit of conjecture and lack proper citations. Thanks for joining the community and we look forward to having you around! --Hyarion 19:47, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
- Super! I'll get on cleaning up The Silmarillion based Histroy summary with clear references to that book. He's an interesting, albeit shady, character and people should know more about him. --Elf-esteem 20:25, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
Brooks Williams' All That Is Gold
This is for your music page somewhere. Brooks Williams (the U.S.A. citizen, not the Canadian) is a fabulous folk guitarist. On his album Back to Mercy (1992 http://www.brookswilliams.com/) he did a song called "All That Is Gold" (see track 2 at http://www.amazon.com/Back-To-Mercy-Brooks-Williams/dp/B004QEZC4A) which includes poetically reinterpreted lyrics from Tolkien:
All that is gold does not glitter, All those who wander are not lost; All that is old does not wither, Deep roots are not touched by frost. From the ashes a fire shall be awoken, A light from the shadows shall spring....
You should definitely check it out--a beautiful song.Lockridgesatverizondotnet 21:08, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
Stuff I'm editing
Okay, so I worked on Eöl, but I think it needs an admin to look it over? Same with Magic, which was like... a lot (possibly too much!). And now I have two pages I want to work on: Second Kinslaying (Second Kinslaying) and Thranduil.
I'm happy to go back and fix whatever, but I just need some clear direction. Or someone who knows "the vision" could just purge the extraneous. IDC, honestly, people can cut out massive amounts of what I've written, and I won't cry about it. I just want to help get things done.
Now for the Second Kinslaying page, the title needs to be changed to Second Kinslaying because it's a misnomer to call it the Sack of Doriath, as others mentioned on the Talk page for it. With Thingol and Melian gone, The Battle of the Thousand Caves is the actual sack of Doriath because the Dwarves stole all the treasure, it literally, got sacked. Okay, so how do you change a page's title? I guess it's kinda a big deal? Everything about the Dwarves should be nixed on that page except for a transition sentence that will link to the Battle of the Thousand Caves/Sack of Doriath page. Anything not mentioned in the "Battle" page will be copied and integrated from "Sack" to "Battle", that way good content is not lost.
I would like to do that! The resulting Second Kinslaying page will end up being very brief, but it will at least be focused on just that topic.
Ok, Thranduil's page, on the Talk it says there's too much extra stuff on there. For example, some of it in the Early History can be moved to the Silvan Elves page. I'd be fine with scooting it over there. I could do this with kid gloves and just hide what was written without outright deleting it, if you want? There was a post on Talk that taking out too much seemed to be a concern?
Anyway, I like to get in there and do stuff, and I'm not expecting a pat on the head with each edit. But, I am concerned to keep pouring effort into pages without guidance. If I'm doing it wrong, I need someone to tell me. If silence is consent around here, I'll just keep going. And do I have to use claim tags when I work on revising/re-writing pages? I saw that on a talk page and I don't even know what that is.
I tried to get on IRC to ask someone these questions, but I guess it's offline. Elf-esteem 01:26, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
Talk:The Hobbit (film series)/Mistakes
look what I have written in Talk:The Hobbit (film series) about some mistakes.
Won't you say something about it;Won't you say your opinion;—Unsigned comment by 85.72.247.184 (talk • contribs).