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Latest comment: 3 July by LorenzoCB in topic Regarding The Atlas of Middle Earth
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Just a doubt[edit source]

Hi Hyarion
I had a simple doubt
Can we copy an entire page created by someone else and just put our name on it?
I know it sounds a bit ridiculous but i have to clear this.
--Shivam (Talk /Contribs/Edits) 03:28, 13 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi Shivam! I'm not sure the context of your question, if you're referring to copying a page from Tolkien Gateway, or to Tolkien Gateway, but either way the answer would be a definite no. --Hyarion (talk) 03:33, 13 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I mean say you created a page on Tolkien Gateway and I copied it entirely and put my name on it and shared it's link on my user page.(Just an example, I won't do such thing). --Shivam (Talk /Contribs/Edits) 11:00, 13 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
No, that sounds a bit unethical. --Hyarion (talk) 01:36, 14 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Well something like that has happened to me. Although i haven't created many pages, actually just one, so someone copied it entirely and put their name on it. Is there anything i should do?.--Shivam (Talk /Contribs/Edits) 01:57, 14 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Can you provide more context? Thanks! --Hyarion (talk) 12:32, 15 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I solved it, thanks.--Shivam (Talk /Contribs/Edits) 11:40, 23 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Concerning article cleanup[edit source]

Hi! I've been cleaning up some articles lately that have had headings like "Plot" or "Synopsis." Should I be putting these as sub-headings under a "History" heading? BrandonEchols (talk) 00:34, 12 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi Brandon! It's so great to have you on the team! Great question, if we use Hordes of the Things as an example, I think the "History" section could likely be eliminated. Pretty much everything about the subject will be considered "history", so the heading, at least to me, seems a little redundant. What are your thoughts though? --Hyarion (talk) 01:03, 12 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I think that there needs to be a heading over the sub-headings, and that could be "History," but it could be something else. I, personally, think that "History" works just fine, as it does all realate to history, but what do you think? There could be just sub-headings, but that might look weird... --BrandonEchols (talk) 01:45, 12 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Ah yes, I agree about sub-headings needing a heading. I meant I would be okay with those sub-headings being converted to headings. --Hyarion (talk) 02:30, 12 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I agree. I think it would be fine, but in the Manual of Style it shows that only the following headings can be used: History, Legacy, Etymology, Other names, Genealogy, Other versions of the legendarium, Inspiration, Portrayal in adaptations, See also, Notes, External links, References, and Further reading. The manual of style could be updated, we could come up with another heading that can be used in all of these situations so there's a general way of doing it, or we could just convert those to regular headings. What's your opinion? --BrandonEchols (talk) 02:37, 12 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hm, I think the Manual of Style just says "typically", so it's not an absolute requirement (if you see phrasing that's more strict, definitely let me know). Those headings are primarily intended for in-universe characters, locations, etc. so it's perfectly fine if Hordes of the Things deviates from that. It's difficult to list all the possible top-level headings, so I usually will check some articles on similar subjects to see what the consensus seems to be and go from there. I agree though, expanding the policy so everyone doesn't have to wing it isn't a bad idea, I just want to avoid having a policy that is 1,000 pages long :) --Hyarion (talk) 03:26, 12 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I think that it's a good idea to add a few new heading options to the Manual of Style. I'm not sure if it's possible but, because I'm working on cleaning up a big portion of the articles, I could add new heading "defaults" to the Manual of Style as needed. That is, if I'm able to get editing permission. Obviously, I wouldn't abuse this power. There are definitely a lot of possibilities for this, but I would just add the "primary" ones. i.e. Plot, Production, Bibliography, and any other main ones I come upon. I definitely agree that we shouldn't have a 1,000 page long policy, though! :D Is this possible? --BrandonEchols (talk) 03:32, 12 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Lorenzo's user talk[edit source]

I have seen that you deleted the new LorenzoCB talk page, I need that page to communicate with him. Excessive Vandalism made him protect that page, so only admins can edit it. I'm not an admin, and neither are three quarters of the people on TG, and when we need to contact him we would not be able to. That is why I made that page and would like to keep it so we Gatekeepers can contact him--Tformer (talk) 19:23, 17 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Few Doubts[edit source]

Do we have the right to use soundtracks of The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings series?
What is the sequence of layout of a page, I mean what's the correct order of writing History, Etymology, Genealogy, References, Other Versions, etc?--Shivam (Talk /Contribs/Edits) 07:22, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Great questions! We don't have any kind of official approval for use of soundtracks, but depending on what the specific scenario is, we can usually use something in a limited capacity under the fair use doctrine. I would say the Tolkien_Gateway:Manual_of_Style#Article_layout looks to be pretty accurate. We usually have the references at the bottom. --Hyarion (talk) 13:40, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Great, thanks a lot.--Shivam (Talk /Contribs/Edits) 13:57, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Testing Notification System[edit source]

Hi User:LorenzoCB, this is just a test. I have configured the Echo Extension for MediaWiki, which adds a notification bell in the top right. In theory if I link your username and add my signature to this message you should get a notification. --Hyarion (talk) 05:29, 27 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Roget that. --LorenzoCB (talk) 09:26, 27 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Regarding The Atlas of Middle Earth[edit source]

Can we upload maps and depictions from The Atlas of Middle Earth? Shivam (Talk /Contribs/Edits) 12:59, 21 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

?--Shivam (Talk /Contribs/Edits) 13:46, 3 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

No, we don't have the permission to use them. I think we have a couple of those maps but we better keep them as exceptions. What do you need? LorenzoCB (talk) 13:57, 3 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]