Talk:Gimilkhâd

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Latest comment: 25 June 2022 by Akhorahil

I have a question about reference #4: why is Paul Strack credited, rather than vol. 9 of HoME, where the linguistic notes for The Drowning of Anadûnê provide a detailed discussion of the root gimli, meaning 'star'?

Ed8r 14:14, 24 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you for asking a question on the talk page first instead of just editing the page. Since this is a wiki that anyone can edit, there is no single author of this page. It would have been less work if you would have provided the precise chapter and any subsection title of this chapter with the page number to locate the source for the meaning "star" for the Adûnaic word gimil. I assume that you mean page 427 of the subsection Declension of nouns in section (vi) Lowdham's Report on the Adunaic Language in the chapter The Drowning of Anadûnê of the book Sauron Defeated. Since the entry on Paul Strack's website eldamo.org is cited at the end of the two sentences, this entry is the source for all the contents of those two sentences and not just for the element gimil in the name Gimilkhâd. In addition, if you look at the entry for the Adûnaic word gimil in eldamo.org you will see that based on the writings of J.R.R. Tolkien it is not clear if gimil means stars or silver. So the entry for Gimilkhâd on eldamo.org is the source for the first sentence that Gimilkhâd is an Adunaic name ("Ad.") and the source for the interpretation/speculation that it contains the elements gimil and khâd and that the first element gimil in this name means "stars". Ar-Gimilzôr's name in Quenya was Tar-Telemnar, which is translated by most authors to mean silver fire, so the element gimil could also alternatively mean silver. I chose one of the two possilbe meanings of the name and provided a source for it. People who want to know the sources behind the element gimil can look up the entry on eldami.org --Akhorahil 10:42, 25 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]