This says nothing a him being a orc of mordor or that he was Captain of the Dark Tower and was a Black uruk —Unsigned comment by 72.228.49.45 (talk • contribs).
- Maybe I'm not understanding correctly, but the first sentence states "Grishnákh was an orc of Mordor". It doesn't state the other things however, which you are free to add, I'll do some research and see if we can improve this article. Thanks for your input. --Hyarion 19:22, 4 September 2007 (EDT)
- oh yeah! —Unsigned comment by 72.228.49.45 (talk • contribs).
Bakshi film
This article says 'Merry also tells one orc (as with the book) that if the Ring goes to Isengard there will be nothing "for poor Grishnákh"'. My understanding is that that orc was meant to be Grishnákh. In the book Merry is talking to Grishnákh and not 'one orc', no? I see no reason to assume that he is not talking to Grishnákh in the film, I'm not sure why else the subordinate orc would care that Grishnákh wouldn't "get" anything. I might be thoroughly misinterpreting it but that was my understanding. Paccyd33 (talk) 10:00, 23 October 2025 (UTC)
- In the film, there is insufficient visual distinction among the depictions of the orcs to establish that 'Grishnákh' refers to one specific orc in particular, or if 'Grishnákh' was simply used because it sounded appropriately orcish with whatever other non-English dialogue the orcs speak among each other. Morgondir (talk) 13:57, 23 October 2025 (UTC)
- I understand that when referring to the bit when the orcs are talking to each other and yell out 'Grishnákh' or whatever, but Merry looks directly at the Orc and says 'nothing for Grishnákh'. To me, that seems that Merry believes the Orc he is talking to is Grishnákh and, as you said, Uglúk was one of the others. I don't see why Merry would bring up the name Grishnákh and say it in that way if Grishnákh wasn't the orc he was speaking to. Paccyd33 (talk) 14:25, 23 October 2025 (UTC)
- On the other hand, Merry does refer to 'Uglúk', so perhaps it is meant to be interpreted that those are proper names, despite the lack of any visual distinction. Morgondir (talk) 14:04, 23 October 2025 (UTC)
Infobox image
I'd like to propose switching the infobox image to File:Olanda Fong-Surdenas - A Dangerous Game....jpg. The Howe one is good but it's very conventional and what one expects an Orc to look like. His artwork is represented across many Orc pages so I thought it might be a good idea to go with a more unconventional one here. It also fills the infobox entirely unlike the current one. Paccyd33 (talk) 01:51, 26 April 2026 (UTC)
