Fathername
At least, i guess that's what the fn in the infobox means. Is it really necessary to mention? It might just confuse people. Oh, and the link of the next word, Itarillë, redirects back to this article. I'll remove that .-- Ederchil 17:07, 27 January 2008 (EST)
Five-sixteenth Vanyarin?
Her mother was full Vanyarin, so she is by that at least 50 % Vanyarin. As I have understood it, her mother (Elenwë) and great-grandmother (Indis) were both full Vanyarin, that would make her five-eighth Vanyarin (Fingolfin being half, Turgon being one quarter). Someone obviuosly mixed up their math. 37.2.30.174 17:48, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
Celebrimbor
It says that Idril and Orodreth are the only two of the third-generation Noldor to go into exile, but what about Celebrimbor? I believe he was also born in Valinor, and would therefore also be a third-generation Noldo to leave Valinor and go to Beleriand.
- Tolkien changed the background of Celebrimbor many times, and his story was left quite unfinished. If we are to suppose that he really was the son of Curufin and not a Telerin or a Sindarin elf (see PM p. 318, 319), he was born in Aman and followed his father to the exile (a late note of Tolkien written in his own exemplar of RK, see PM p. 317). In any case, Celebrimbor did not exist before the writing of LotR. --Tik 07:54, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
Birth Year
The birth year of 1479YT seems suspect to me. It comes from Tolkien's notes in NoMe where he is addressing difficulties in the chronology created by his time expansion. He works through three options in this section to try to fix the age problem for border elves (e.g. those born shortly before and after the exile). In the 2nd option, he addresses Idril directly, and I believe this is where we get the date 1479 for her birth. But Tolkien does not appear to have adopted option 2 as his preferred solution. It appears that he chose option 3, a different aging scheme.
He wants Idril to be approximately 22 in life-years when she marries in 502 and he works backwards from there to arrive at a proposed birth year based on the option 2 methodology he doesn't adopt. He does NOT start with a birth year, work forward, and then estimate how old she would be at marriage. If he adopted Option 3 rather than Option 2, then it seems clear to me that he still wants her to be 22 life-years at marriage and one would need to work backwards from there to establish a birth year.
If we use Option 3 (50:1 aging), then she would have been 10, not 17, upon entry to Beleriand, which would put her birth year at 1486 rather than 1479. Thoughts about this? Rollodiggins (talk) 13:58, 24 May 2024 (UTC)