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Latest comment: 31 October 2020 by Mith

I propose to move the contents of the Vinyalondë page to the Lond Daer page and to integrate them in the content there and to change the Vinyalondë page into a redirect page that redirects to the Lond Daer page. Vinyalondë was an earlier name of Lond Daer and the page for Lond Daer Enedh, a later name of Lond Daer is also just a redirect page that redirects to the Lond Daer page. That would be consistent and would eliminate a lot of overlapping content. Unsigned comment by Akhorahil (talk • contribs).

Disagree. There is indeed little info about Vinyalonde, so it is repeated in the Lond Daer article as part of the background, but the change of name is not casual: Vinyalonde is the precedent for Lond Daer, not the same location, as it was destroyed several times. --LorenzoCB 10:12, 26 October 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
In Unfinished Tales of Númenor and Middle-earth in Aldarion and Erendis in note 9 and in the index entry for Vinyalonde and in The History of Galadriel and Celeborn including Appendix D note 2 it says that Vinyalondë was later called Lond Daer and it says nowhere that Lond Daer was at a different location. Only the harbour of Tharbad that is mentioned in this appendix D was in a different location, but that harbour was a different harbour. --Akhorahil 13:46, 26 October 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I said they are different locations in the sense that it has been replaced rather than evolved. I'm tired of overwhelming articles with too many names and the Vinyalonde page fulfills its role, but wtv. --LorenzoCB 15:08, 26 October 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Also disagree. --Mith (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 16:10, 31 October 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]