In his notes on a poem in The Road Goes Ever On, Tolkien gave the form men ("direction, region"). It was from this men + el which was invented the Quenya word Menel. It is not known with certainty if men here refers to a Primitive Quendian word (cf. Men (Elvish)#Elvish) or to a root.
- menta ("send, cause to go, (in a desired direction)"
- mēn- ("a way, a going, a mov[ement]")
- Bill Welden, "Negation in Quenya", in Vinyar Tengwar, Number 42, July 2001, p. 32 (root appearing as "√men")
- J.R.R. Tolkien, "Etymological Notes on the Ósanwe-kenta" (edited by Carl F. Hostetter), in Vinyar Tengwar, Number 41, July 2000, p. 6 (root appearing as "√men")
- J.R.R. Tolkien, "Words, Phrases and Passages in Various Tongues in The Lord of the Rings", in Parma Eldalamberon XVII (edited by Christopher Gilson), p. 165 (root appearing as "√MEN" and "√MEN-"
- J.R.R. Tolkien, "Notes and Translations", in The Road Goes Ever On (J.R.R. Tolkien, Donald Swann), p. 72
- J.R.R. Tolkien, Christopher Tolkien (ed.), The Lost Road and Other Writings, Part Three: "The Etymologies", p. 372