Talk:Parma Eldalamberon

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Latest comment: 19 June 2020 by Mith in topic Purchase template not working?

Separate issue listing?

Like Vinyar Tengwar, should we have a list of issues, or separate pages of issues? -- Ederchil 11:20, 13 February 2008 (EST)

I think it would definitely be worth having an article on each issue as each issue contains a lot of information. I personally don't have any issues yet, but I'll try and contact them to ask for permission to display at least their cover image and table of contents. --Hyarion 18:24, 13 February 2008 (EST)

Foster's Complete Guide to Middle-earth a spin-off of PE?

I think this is rather a non-sequitur, or at least very far-fetched, as the Complete Guide to Middle-earth was an expansion (prompted by the publication of The Silmarillion in 1977) of the earlier Guide to Middle-earth, that was first published in instalments in the journal Niekas, in the late '60s, so definitely before PE existed. -- Mithrennaith 15:32, 10 December 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Although I lack the background information you have, I too reacted at that very sentence, which seemed to me to be more of an "interpretation", than "facts". Perhaps you could rephrase that sentence on the page? --Morgan 15:42, 10 December 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I will think about it, later. -- Mithrennaith 15:54, 10 December 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I have now revised the relevant passage, after having surveyed the contents of PE 1-5. From those contents it is clear that An Introduction to Elvish is the direct result of the discussion in PE: whole articles were expanded into it and its authors clearly came from the Linguistic Fellowship. Fosters Complete Guide is a totally different matter.
Foster was clearly a contributor to PE, but his contributions have no direct relationship with his Guide, rather, they seem to fall between the two periods he worked on it. His work in the middle and late sixties resulted in A Guide to Middle-earth, which, after serialisation in Niekas was published as a book in 1971. Only after The Silmarillion was published in 1977 did Foster use the information that had thus become available to expand the Guide into The Complete Guide to Middle-earth. Perhaps I should do some work on that article, where the whole history of the Guide prior to 1978 is now missing. The only direct link between PE and the Guide is a letter by a correspondent noting two errors in the Guide, which turn out instead to be errors in his noncanon source that has garbled some of Tolkien's information!
I have also clarified that, although Gilson revived PE outside the Linguistic Fellowship (which I think had collapsed), it was drawn into the Elvish Linguistic Fellowship when that had been founded. -- Mithrennaith 04:16, 11 December 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hey Mithrennaith. Since you appear to know something about Foster, would you like to update the article Robert Foster about his contributions in the fandom? Sage 16:02, 11 December 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I'm afraid I know nothing more about Foster than his Guide and Complete Guide and his contributions to Parma. So I can't help out there. I will give a thought, however, to improving the history in the article The Complete Guide to Middle-earth (as I already said). -- Mithrennaith 17:14, 11 December 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Does anyone know about the current status of PE and whether it had been discontinued or put on an indefinite hiatus? Its website,, has been down since August 2nd. Protospace 18:40, 14 September 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The website works for me, so either the issue has been fixed or the outage isn't universal. PE itself is not on hiatus or discontinued. 4 of the 5 members of the Editorial Team attended this year's Omentielva conference in mid-August, during which they commented on which materials they've been preparing for publication and where they are in the process. Unweg 22:57, 15 September 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The website works for me, also. --Mith (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 13:34, 16 September 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Doesn't work for me. I can access the PE website at work, but not at home. Some years ago I contacted my internet provider, and apparently it had something to do with a DNS problem.--Morgan 21:55, 16 September 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I'm glad to hear it hasn't been discontinued. For several weeks, when I tried to access the website I received an error message saying that the website had been down since August 2nd. It's now working for me again. Strange that their website seems to have outages that affect only certain people, like Morgan and myself. Protospace 04:00, 21 September 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Purchase template not working?

I've been trying to figure out where to find - and edit - the purchase template (at least I expect that to be a template?) but to no avail. The ebay links are dead. If anyone could help out I'd be much obliged.--Olwe 06:55, 11 June 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Fixed. --Mith (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 18:40, 19 June 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]