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Sinda?[edit source]

The thought that Celebrian would be "racially" a Sinda, being the daughter of Celeborn, can be correct. However the Sindar seem to have stopped existing as a racial and political entity in the Second Age. Sindar are the Teleri of Beleriand under Thingol and the High Kingship of Doriath. The name "Sindar" and "Grey-elves" is rarely used in the SA context, mainly to refer to the survivors who soon merged with other Elves. I don't think that Celebrian, being an Elf born in the Second Age, would identify as a Sinda. Sage 07:23, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

Agree, which is why I always gave her a more ambiguous infobox. I shall change it back and leave a note to not change it again without discussion. --Mith (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 11:38, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

Year of birth[edit source]

Someone has added Celebrian's year of birth as S.A. 300 according to NoME (part 1, chapter 9). However, in that same book there are many other alternative dates of her birth:

  • S.A. 260 according to the part 1, chapter 10
  • S.A. 350 according to the part 1, chapter 10
  • S.A. 850 according to the part 1, chapter 11
  • S.A. 9 according to the part 1, chapter 18
  • S.A. 45 according to the part 1, chapter 18

So, what date, if any, should be adopted in the main section and infobox of the article on Celebrian? I propose that none should be taken up, and that all of the above mentioned dates should go to the OVOTL. - IvarTheBoneless 14:15, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

The way I see it, these all are just speculations. So yes none of them should be adopted.--Shivam 14:25, 17 March 2022 (UTC)