User talk:BalrogTrainer

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-- Mith (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 02:02, 13 April 2013 (UTC)


We have rules about images, both in naming and tagging. See here for an example. Also, make sure the images are at least 300px wide. --Ederchil (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 13:24, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

OK, gotcha. I'm still trying to feel my way through this whole image posting thing. Obviously I need more practice. Feel free to delete any files I uploaded that won't work. Thanks.Unsigned comment by BalrogTrainer (talk • contribs).
Could I also add that all images should be categorised and have a licence template attached. When you upload an image there is a "Licensing" dropdown menu to select which copyright template to attach to the file (in this case Warner Bros.); all images must have a licensing template for copyright reasons. As for categories, we have standard naming conventions:
  • Characters/locations/events - these always take the form of [[Category:Images of XXX]] where "XXX" is the name of the character/location/event;
  • Adaptations - these always take the form of [[Category:Images from XXX]] where "XXX" is the name of the adaptation in the same format as the article. For example, the 1978 film of The Lord of the Rings is "The Lord of the Rings (1978 film)" so the category is "Category:Images from The Lord of the Rings (1978 film)".
Ideally, you should endeavour to include the adaptation it is from and as many characters/locations/events as depicted in the image. Take a look at the change I just made to the image of Nori you uploaded to see an example of how this works in practice. If you have any other questions, do let me know! --Mith (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 00:23, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip. However, I forgot to do the licencing step for the image of Fíli (and perhaps a couple others) that I just uploaded. : / If you could amend this, it would be much appreciated.

Stubbing scenes[edit]

If you create a scene article, can you at least include more info on it than just "it's a scene"? Preferably, a page should look like this, with info on length and stuff. --Ederchil (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 13:21, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

How were whomever started the articles for all the individual scenes from the LOTR films able to get away with it then? : / At any rate, I'll stop for now, since, frankly, I've done enough rehashing of AUJ's storyline for a while between completing the 'Plot' and 'Deviations from the source material' sections of its main article. : P

Signing Comments[edit]

I've noticed that on talk pages you often don't sign your comments. To sign a comment just write "--~~~~" at the end, or click the signature button in the toolbox (it looks like a pencil signing). If you're interested in setting up a custom signature (like mine, Ederchil's or KingAragorn's) see Help:Signatures. I hope this helps! --Mith (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 11:36, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. I've been wondering how to do that. Here goes!--BalrogTrainer 14:28, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Creating categories[edit]

It's great that you're uploading lots of new images, but don't forget that if a category doesn't exist - like on this file - you will need to create the category yourself (when any link is red it means the target page doesn't doesn't exist). To create it, simply click on the link, add the text, and click save. I hope this helps! --Mith (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 13:11, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

I'd like to reiterate the above message with respect to this image. --Mith (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 17:08, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
Sorry, I keep forgetting. : / --BalrogTrainer 01:51, 5 December 2014 (UTC)


Hello! As you seem to have good knowledge about PJ's films: do you know if the recently added text about Tauriel being inspired by the "captain of the Elvenking's guard" was the filmmakers' intention or if it's pure speculation?--Morgan 13:42, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

I'm not entirely sure. It's quite possible Tauriel was based on the mention of that character, but I think it was more about just getting a female character into the story. Since it's still just speculation, it should probably be removed. --BalrogTrainer 13:50, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. I wondered if the issue was discussed in any of the audio commentaries (or similar official sources), but since this doens't appear to be the case, I'll remove it.--Morgan 14:01, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Fair use[edit]

Fair use does not mean using an image fairly - copyrighted images are still copyrighted. I checked both those websites with the source of the Antony Sher picture and neither gave us permission to use them. Flickr is a very good source of Creative Commons-licenced images. --Mith (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 10:04, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

SIGH. The image you uploaded said "All Rights Reserved." i.e. we have no right to use it. I specifically said "Flickr is a very good source of Creative Commons-licenced images." --Mith (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 15:34, 15 January 2015 (UTC)


Is the name Ogre officially used for the troll-like monsters (the one appearing in the file you uploaded) in BoFA? I can't recall if they are ever named in the film, but perhaps they are described in film-related books? --Morgan 16:52, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

It's what I've seen other sites label them citing movie books, so I'm assuming it's legitimate. --BalrogTrainer 01:26, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
Nonetheless, it needs a primary source. --Ederchil (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 09:57, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
Page 221 of The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies: Chronicles: Art & Design says they used the mentioning of an "ogre" in "Riddles in the Dark" ("Poor Bilbo sat in the dark thinking of all the horrible names of all the giants and ogres he had ever heard told of in tales, but not one of them had done all these things.") as an opportunity to create a new creature larger than an orc and smaller than a troll. --Mith (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 09:39, 1 April 2015 (UTC)


If you check the Internet you will see that Conan Stevens does not porteay Bolg but an orc called Unnamed Orc Brute . For more Information see the site on the lord of the rings wiki and wikipedia.

But, like it or not, Conan Stevens' character is credited as 'Bolg' in AUJ, regardless of how the character's appearance was changed for the subsequent 2 films. This source you've offered is clearly one that's been amended for the sake of continuity. Because Bolg is never identified as actually being Bolg in AUJ, one can generally get away with it... but we're trying to keep our info here as accurate as possible. Please do not make any further attempts to edit this part of Bolg's page once your ban is lifted. --BalrogTrainer 07:34, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Lack of photo[edit]

I have seen that there is only one image-poster for The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies in Tolkien Gateway. I also saw that you uploaded this image-poster of The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies that there is in Tolkien Gateway.There are many images posters of the third Hobbit film on Internet.You can find many of them on Google.I also saw that for the previous two Hobbit films there are many images-posters. 21 images-files of The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey, which are posters, are upoladed on Tolkien Gateway, while for The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug 9 images-files, which are posters too, are also upoladed on Tolkien Gateway. So Why don't you upload two more images-posters in Tolkien Gateway; I dont have the ability to upload inages in Tolkien Gateway, but you do have the ability.

Wrong Photo[edit]

There is a mistake in a photo.Although Azog appears in Barell scene in Mirkwood in the trailer of The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug he is not present in this scene in Mirkwood on the film The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug.This image exists only in trailer. It soesnt exist even as an official poster.I believe an image with Azog in which he eventually appears, independently if this scene exists only in The Theatrical Edition or only in the Extended Edition or both of them, should be uploaded on Tolkien Gataway.You can uplpad more than just a single image in Tolkien Gateway. You can upload two or three or four, if you want, images with Azog from The Hobbit film trilogy (as he appeared there).

  • Picture Example1: It can be uploaded an image in which Azog dies in Thorins arms.This scene exists both in Theatrical and Extended Edition.
  • Picture Example2: It can be uploaded an image-poster with Azog from the film The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies.

Did you understand what I am saying; If you dont understand what I am saying or have any question, you can talk to me on my talk page.This is my talk page:talk page. I have nothing else to said.-- 21:31, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

Kind of a trivial matter, don't you think? It's still Azog regardless if it only appeared in the trailer. --BalrogTrainer 05:49, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

Lack of photos[edit]

I have seen that there are no images about the wereworms as they were depicted in The Hobbit film Trilogy.Not a single image.There are no images also about Carrock, Gundabad and Ravenhill as they appeared in The Hobbit film Trilogy.I have seen that, in comparison with The Lord of the Rings, there are less images for places and creatures depicted in The Hobbit film Trilogy (for more about that you can read here). Can you upload at least one image about these things that i mention in Tolkien Gateway (wereworms, Carrock, Gundabad and Ravenhill as they appeared in The Hobbit film Trilogy); I dont have the ability to upload inages in Tolkien Gateway, but you do have the ability.--Unsigned comment by (talk).