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Latest comment: 23 July 2022 by LorenzoCB in topic 4 elven ambassadors ?

Hello, why does the article say that Noldóran is a Sindarin word? Both Noldo and aran are Quenya words (aran is also a Sindarin word of the same meaning). Compare etymology section at Noldor. It would be really strange for the Noldor of Aman to title their king in an unknown for them language of the Sindar of Beleriand. The Shibboleth of Fëanor doesn't say that the title has been given after his death by the Noldor of Beleriand or later, so I assume Noldóran is Quenya. Sirielle 22:24, 12 January 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks for your comments, Sirielle. I've made some changes to the Finwë article (hopefully for the better!).--Morgan 11:47, 14 January 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]


would he have become king upon setting foot in aman? then the start of his official rule as King of the Noldor would have been from yt 1133 right? --Yeyeye 01:54, 23 February 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Logically yes, but that doesn't mean we should extrapolate on that. Perhaps he was considered a King already in the Great March, like Elwe. Sage 14:48, 23 February 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Ok thanks. Cuz in the Silmarillion, finwe ingwe and olwe arent referred to as kings until they reach aman and elwe isnt considered a king until he established doriath. they were called chieftains and lords before.--Yeyeye 01:15, 25 February 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Actually the Silmarillion says that when Elwe disappeared, Olwe took the "kingship" of the Teleri. This indicates that Elwe was already a king, and possibly the other two also. Sage 12:57, 25 February 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Alright so what dates should i put for all 4 of the kings for the start of their rule?--Yeyeye 23:35, 29 March 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

4 elven ambassadors ?

In the wiki :The three elven ambassadors were Ingwë, Finwë and Elwë, who would later become kings of the three factions into which the elven race was split.[4]

....but might be 4 ambassadors because Olwe is missing. The teleri were a big faction with 2 Kings. Unsigned comment by (talk • contribs).

Olwe was not one of the Three Ambassadors (the capitalized term is canon). --LorenzoCB 07:26, 23 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]